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Feb 10, 2016 12:51 AM
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Anime community is only as cancerous as any fanbase on internet...
 
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It's bad, just like any community out there, especially on youtube. Also elitlist make me puke.
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1. Happens on every community (especially on gaming community)... And anime is not a exception on this one.
2. THINK a anime world without any hype, it would be hard to find any semi-good anime anymore. But reason this can be annoying is cause people get influenced too easily (that is something I hate). People needs to understand they got they're own anime taste and everything what others like don't actually apply on them.
3. I have watched about 10-13 years anime already and only few dub's been good. Usually they sound really flat. Of course there is few exceptions in this one (like Cowboy Bebop), but why even bother to try English dub (or my native) when originals are usually really good? (well there is exceptions too like Origin: Spirit of the Past - Agito). But there is quite lot of subtitle haters also so it's not only dub haters. Everyone should watch anime as they want dubbed or subbed.
4. Never heard and not even interested on this.
5. Well this is true... Could not agree more on this one.
6. I don't have seen this happening at all anywhere.
7. Well quite lot of anime and ova are made for manga readers (like Air Gear ova). But yeah some anime's got that problem they doesn't tell things enough well like in manga.
Feb 10, 2016 3:26 AM

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JkayW said:

1. Selective morals "Don't judge me for liking anime" "Anyone who doesn't like anime is an idiot" shut up.
6. Judging people who don't like anime. They act as if not liking anime is a personal offence to them. Like, if someone says "Ehh, I don't really like it that much" then they would tell them they don't understand, they're ignorant, they're being mean to them blah blah.

Well, those two points are basically the same or, at least, fall into the same category. I must say that I didn't witness this kind of behavior (maybe I don't know enough people who are anime fans), but you can't stop people from judging others; just by the way I'm replying to you, right now, some people will judge and label me.

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2. OH MY GOD YOU NEED TO WATCH THIS ITS LIKE THE GREATEST THING EVER!!!
When fanboys go and overhype the show they love so much what they don't know is they are actually a cancer to their own series.

This is present everywhere, be it about movies, sports, food, etc. People like to talk about what they enjoy and sometimes, they simply don’t realize that the other party is simply not interested for X reason. A good amount of individuals also desire other people approvals and will want to confirm that what they like is actually good. They may try to persuade some persons they respect or simply deem that their opinion has more value than others (good examples are friends, parents, well known people, etc.) to watch a certain anime, for instance.

But, it’s true that some people just want to propagate their "perfect" anime series, since they are blessed with a superior intelligence and a divine taste (I’m being sarcastic here, don’t take that seriously) and then it becomes cancerous to others, creates flame wars with all guns blazing and baits everywhere (the only positive point I can find is that it keeps the forums active…? I guess).

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3. Dub haters. These are the anime purists who feel the anime is at its most pure when it is only watched in the subbed version.

Ha, this I can definitely relate; I’ve seen this phenomenon of hatred in about every comments sections from mostly dubs, but also subs versions, of about every single anime series I’ve watched! I find it pretty funny, since a good amount of people are completely adamant to their opinion and state it as a fact. I honestly think the war between subs and dubs will never stop, since it’s also an easy bait to trigger much talking and aggressive replies, which some people like a lot.

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4. Using the word weeaboo as slang for anime fan. Stop using this shit as slang for anime fans or else you just destroy the definition.

I must admit that I think the use of this word and the many misunderstandings concerning it are due to mostly 3 major reasons; the first one would be simply to act as a provocation or even as an insult, since it is generally accepted that it is a pejorative word, at least for those who are pretty casual anime watchers and do not fall in the actual definition of the word.

The second one is ignorance; people that do not actually know what the word means and just read it somewhere, then decided to figure out the meaning by themselves, judging by the context of the sentence in which they read the word in.

The last one, it’s mostly just plain old generalization based on stereotypes and this kind of stuff; you like anime, you’re a weeaboo, you like gaming, you’re a nerd and probably a "nolife" too (I’m obviously exaggerating here, but I’m pretty sure you get the point), etc. This will also probably never change/stop.

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5. Good and bad taste in anime. Trying to apply objectivity in subjectivity. Just... What? Is this a joke? Stop applying objectivity to this. Taste means a person's liking for particular flavours. So when saying anime TASTE it just means preferences and things you like.

Well, since pure objectiveness from a human doesn’t exist (there’s always a certain bias, no matter what), it’s obvious, that every review/critic you may read will have traces of subjectivity in it, even when it comes from people who try to stay objective as much as possible. Then, you bring the subject of good/bad taste, which, I guess you must be talking about people who judge others and declare that their taste is bad/less meaningful, than their own or stuff like that. Well, I’d say that I’m interested in knowing how they actually are able to measure someone’s taste and compare it to their own.

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7. The source doesn't "fix" the problems with the anime. Complaining when people have problems with the anime, don't like the adaptation of your favourite ____, calling them cancerous and telling them to read the source. This isn't the source material, this is the anime.

You’re right! They’re 2 different things, but it won’t change anything to say that, since, a good amount of persons that show the kind of behavior you were describing, are persons that really like the LNs. For instance, if they find that the anime series that was made based on them does not do justice to their favorite LN, they may become infuriated and, since they may also want people to appreciate their favorite LN to its "real" value, may become annoying by singing its praises a little bit too much!

Well, that was a pretty long post and if you read it in its entirety, I must congratulate you for doing so, since you're probably the only one that did! Otherwise, it still helped me practice my English skills a bit more, so it's not wasted!
Feb 10, 2016 3:32 AM

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Dub haters. There are some incredibly talented dub voice actors out there and I hate that they get immediately written off by some people for the heinous crime of speaking English.

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@NateMKII

I'm pretty sure people who watches ecchi watches hentai and the real thing...

I don't even watch an ecchi to fap, I watch it to be entertained... just like any anime I watch. There are some pretty good stories with an ecchi tag(even those with "borderline porn"). But, I'm pretty sure your closed mind would not register that.

Doesn't being pressed up against your zipper for 20 minutes at a time ever get uncomfortable?

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Bobby2Hands said:
Dub haters. There are some incredibly talented dub voice actors out there and I hate that they get immediately written off by some people for the heinous crime of speaking English.

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@NateMKII

I'm pretty sure people who watches ecchi watches hentai and the real thing...

I don't even watch an ecchi to fap, I watch it to be entertained... just like any anime I watch. There are some pretty good stories with an ecchi tag(even those with "borderline porn"). But, I'm pretty sure your closed mind would not register that.

Doesn't being pressed up against your zipper for 20 minutes at a time ever get uncomfortable?



I watch it wearing cargo shorts without zippers but a garter.... haha! xD
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Bobby2Hands said:
CapitalistGod said:
@NateMKII

I'm pretty sure people who watches ecchi watches hentai and the real thing...

I don't even watch an ecchi to fap, I watch it to be entertained... just like any anime I watch. There are some pretty good stories with an ecchi tag(even those with "borderline porn"). But, I'm pretty sure your closed mind would not register that.

Doesn't being pressed up against your zipper for 20 minutes at a time ever get uncomfortable?


1) No. And if you're really as adult and as male as your profile states, you should know that.
2) Ecchi is not about getting you hard (though it occasionally does).
Feb 11, 2016 9:37 PM

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JkayW said:


"Words don't have meanings".

I don't know if this is bait but....



It's still 'associated' with a term used to bring down an entire race for a long period in history where blacks were treated like property, beaten, raped and worked against our own will. Trying to make light of it doesn't make it better. It's funny how people use it so lightly and casually.


Yes, it's not as much about what you say as the intention behind why you say it


If a white person uses nigga/er in context, idgaf... if you call me a nigger w I'll intention, and its not 100% obv its a joke, we finna box



Anyway, I also hate ppl who hate on genres like you not liking a popular genre means it shouldn't be popular, anyone is free to like or fap to whatever they want


There are a magnitude of ways to say hello to a friend, why make nigga one of them. Kinda of dumb.
Feb 11, 2016 9:52 PM
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JkayW said:
Mamster-P said:


Yes, it's not as much about what you say as the intention behind why you say it


If a white person uses nigga/er in context, idgaf... if you call me a nigger w I'll intention, and its not 100% obv its a joke, we finna box



Anyway, I also hate ppl who hate on genres like you not liking a popular genre means it shouldn't be popular, anyone is free to like or fap to whatever they want


There are a magnitude of ways to say hello to a friend, why make nigga one of them. Kinda of dumb.


i don't say it that often, but i do sometimes

why would you care if you're not black?

just don't say it if you don't want to, we know what is implied when we use the term
Feb 11, 2016 9:56 PM

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I think alot of people take their chinese cartoons too seriously.
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All anime fans are a malignant growth upon the skin of humanity that must be burnt off.
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Mamster-P said:
JkayW said:


There are a magnitude of ways to say hello to a friend, why make nigga one of them. Kinda of dumb.


i don't say it that often, but i do sometimes

why would you care if you're not black?

just don't say it if you don't want to, we know what is implied when we use the term


I am black, that's why I care. And if I'm not black, why should I not have the right to care? Black people are still humans.. And I care about humans beings.

What is your argument exactly?
Feb 11, 2016 11:57 PM

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Like the numerous different genres, the amount of merchandise every series has, the fact that they sexualize their characters so much, and the animation.

Dislike A good amount of anime fans that are whiny, annoying, and constantly complain about everything they find wrong/bad.
Feb 12, 2016 12:01 AM
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JkayW said:
Mamster-P said:


i don't say it that often, but i do sometimes

why would you care if you're not black?

just don't say it if you don't want to, we know what is implied when we use the term


I am black, that's why I care. And if I'm not black, why should I not have the right to care? Black people are still humans.. And I care about humans beings.

What is your argument exactly?


you're black?

aite then NIGGA...... don't say it if you don't want to


oops, did i offend you? was there ill intent behind that? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Feb 12, 2016 12:12 AM

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I dislike when people shit on other person taste, or when someone doesn't like someone just because he has a different taste.
Feb 12, 2016 1:22 AM

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What I hate is how people rush to put out reviews of ongoing anime without them actually being over yet. Like honestly, HOW the hell can people constantly post reviews of Erased (or OPM a couple of months ago) without having seen the entire show? How do you know it's a 10/10 without having seen the ending? How do you know it's a 1/10 without having seen how the plot unfolds? This annoys me to no end. People just watch 3-4 episodes then post their verdict as if it's credible. Guys, hold your goddamn horses. Watch the entire thing THEN you can review it. Phew, sorry I had to vent.
Those are just previews and get deleted once the show is finished airing.


In general I think you can review a show before you finish it. If you drop it, it means it wasn't good enough and in your review you explain why you abandoned it.

But these people want to finish the show. Reviewing a single episode sounds like an attempt to get profile views.
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Feb 12, 2016 2:42 AM

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About the sub/dub conflict
I once said on a thread that I liked Ghost Stories dub and someone replied that
the dub doesn't do justice to the anime and I shouldn't encourage bad dub, people
like me are better of watching SAO and AoT. I didn't replied.
But what a hell, what was his problem, how is my fault that ADV made the dub like that?
and how this is destroying the so called Anime Industry?
Feb 12, 2016 3:12 AM

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It works both ways XD, while I agree that elitists and the people who argue over "THIS IS THE BEST ANIME EVER MADE. YOUR TOP ANIME IS SHIT AND YOUR WAIFU IS SHIT" are horrible and cancerous, but there are some genuinely good people who just want to share their views with others. So as it must have been said many times earlier, it's a Love-Hate relationship

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atm, i kinda hate MAL community because 99% time people ignore your points unless you are baiting

I also hate back & forth quote war (just snippet a bit)



Im just posting here once and pretend no need to read same thread again.

*I might need to learn to make friends lol.
Nah, i dont think sharing anime ratings in signature is cool thing.

Here, stare at this pointless signature instead.
Feb 12, 2016 3:19 AM

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It's full of weeaboos, edgelords, and elitists and I ironically enjoy their presence.
Feb 12, 2016 7:57 AM
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So should the people who are embarrassed to say that them love anime be advised to stop watching it completely?!
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MiziTami said:
So should the people who are embarrassed to say that them love anime be advised to stop watching it completely?!
It's embarrassing when I masturbate in public, but is that going to stop me? No, it's too thrilling.
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives.

Feb 12, 2016 8:05 AM

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The people I hate:
The "OMG my waifu so kawaii-desu!"
The "Wow every single English dub is fukin terrible! Japanese voice actors are sooooo much more talented!"
The "I hate older anime even though I've never seen it because it looks old LOL"
The "Your anime sucks in every single way. My opinion is far superior to yours. Go back to SAO weebkiddie!"

The people I like:
The "Hey I'm a normal person and I watch anime!"





Ahhh... Is this the blood... The blood of the Dark Soul?
Feb 12, 2016 8:08 AM

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When people automatically assume that because you didn't like something that they found to be philosophical and mind bending, that it means you lack intelligence.
Nawww son, I have enough intelligence to know that show isn't nearly as good or deep as you make it out to be .
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Holybaptiser said:
MiziTami said:
So should the people who are embarrassed to say that them love anime be advised to stop watching it completely?!
It's embarrassing when I masturbate in public, but is that going to stop me? No, it's too thrilling.


Lol that sums it up pretty...well xD
Feb 13, 2016 7:11 AM
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What if I told that it whatever the anime community does doesn't really matter to me? I'm for the most part indifferent to whatever is supposed to be 'going on' within the community. People get a little to involved in this kinda thing.

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Feb 17, 2016 12:40 PM

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Community has kinds of people i often dislike, like fujoshis, feelzzfaggots, elitist or ecchi fans, but all of them are just actually plain stupid steriotypes, but when i met someone, i try to be polite, despite if he or she likes or dislikes something i love/hate, because if you find someone obnoxious, you can't prejugde.
Feb 17, 2016 9:17 PM

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I love the anime community as a whole, sometimes it's trolly though, lol.
Feb 17, 2016 9:28 PM

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I just watch anime. And I'm just mainly on here to stalk the forums sometimes participate.

If people want to act insane over anime, then that's their problem.
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These people who has a mean score of 2, 3 or 4
Man they pisses me off.
Just with this i have a huge feeling they are fucking assholes.
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I agree with your post JkayW about the anime community.
Feb 17, 2016 10:52 PM

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Itadakimasuuuu said:
When people automatically assume that because you didn't like something that they found to be philosophical and mind bending, that it means you lack intelligence.
Nawww son, I have enough intelligence to know that show isn't nearly as good or deep as you make it out to be .


That's a dead-on description of a lot of Texhnolyze fans.
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Feb 18, 2016 3:56 AM

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Annoying, just like all the other fanbases of any media out there.
Feb 18, 2016 4:13 AM

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So I like the creativity a lot of people put in. Some people are really great at doing things like cosplay, fanart, and fansubs so we can understand the originals.

What I don't like? People who get disturbingly creepy. Boku no Pico "fans", Buttshaped mousepads adorned with their "Waifus", Full body Miia from Monster Musume pillows... And I'm not saying I don't have waifus, or don't watch ecchi, but some people go over board with anime stuff.
Feb 18, 2016 5:35 AM

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OP describes most of my problems, but here's what I'd add:
Hardcore Fans
People who won't take anything you say seriously after you say you don't like their favourite show. 'You don't like Naruto? Man, I can't even talk to you- like what, how could you even?' because they're usually also the people who can worst explain why they like what they like, and are usually fans of some really popular shounen series.

Elitists and Elitist haters
Is it contradictory to dislike both factions? But to be honest, I probably shouldn't have put 'Elitist' in there because I don't think I've ever seen a real one and probably wouldn't recognize them even if I did- because I have no clue what people even mean when they use the word. People who believe their opinion is supreme? People who only watch series at least 20 years old (apparently, at least 40 if they're hardcore enough). I do have a problem with people who consider their opinion unjustifiably superior- but that's out of my disinterest in generally dense people.

From what I intuitively infer from the word 'elitist', I believe an anime elitist should be someone who expects every show to be an intellectual masterpiece and looks down upon shows that resort to fan-service, slapstick humour etc in order to be successful, as well as fans of such shows. While I'd be glad to see smarter shows myself, I still think this kind of intolerance is needless.

Casualists who think poorly of the self-important attitude of elitists are contradicting themselves when they say they hate elitists for expecting all shows to have certain characteristics and then that people should be allowed to like/dislike whatever shows they want. Elitists are allowed to have opinions as well; if you feel they're being overly aggressive with theirs, ignore. I'm sure you have certain aspects in shows you don't like as well, it's just that you're probably not as vocal about it. Also, work out a singular definition of elitists. I'm not sure who you're hating on and I'm not sure you know either.

Merchandise Otakus (For the lack of a better word)
While I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with owning anime merchandise, I think it's sad that you have the kind of money to buy a shelf full of anime girl dolls (I'm not sure what they're called, sorry) and I think it's perverted and creepy and I'm not sure what you do with these things. (But I don't understand collectors and the motivation to collect articles in general, so perhaps it is my own naivete that needs working on). Regardless, I think it's a practice that should be discouraged just because it creates unhealthy incentives for the anime industry to further moe-ify shows.
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anime community is too large to really call a community at this point

its just a country of fucking morons that I hate like 75% of

100% this. Quite a bit of idiocy is present in the anime community. The worst out the bunch are the edge lords that bash any mainstream/popular anime, and the weebs who mix every sentence they spew or type out with "kawaii" or any other jap substitute for an english word/term.
Feb 18, 2016 6:32 AM

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mostly members can't read
but I can trust in mostly reviews, so it's fine
Feb 18, 2016 7:01 AM

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I enjoy conversing with people who share the same niche hobby as myself so I do like being a part of the anime community. Met some really cool, smart and fun people, both online and irl. That being said there are things about the community that irk me. Firstly, many are quick to use ad hominem in debates, using buzzwords like "elitist", "casual" "*insert series here*-tard" and the like. Many simply can't stand opinions that differ from their own.

Another thing that bugs me a little would be that, while I do respect the preferences of others, anime fans have a tendency to be closed minded and hesitant to try different things.
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I don't really have a problem with the community. I think you'll always have a good and bad side to anything that becomes popular.

I'm embarrassed by anime fans who wear headbands and other weeb paraphernalia in public though (minus normal things like t-shirts) and dislike fans who somehow try to make every male character gay.
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I agree with OP as well.

Things I hate:

Dub haters: Ok, I get wanting it to sound as authentic as possible, but there's a reason why some Japanese jokes get cut out because simply...we're not Japanese! I'd rather hear an English joke that I WILL understand and maybe even laugh. Besides honestly, anime characters speaking English looks more natural and suited for them because like 99% of anime characters look western (not Asian).

Fanboys/girls: your anime is not the best anime EVER1!!!11

Creepy guys claiming waifus: just...wtf

Yaoi Shippers: I don't want to see frickin yaoi fan art of my favorite characters when I do a google search ok?! (thinks of TweekXCraig)

Weeaboos: Hate breaking it to you, but anime IS a cartoon! Anime isn't some other magical medium that isn't animation what so ever! Anime is what the Japanese call animation, and anime is what westerners call animation from Japan or it's a style. Spongebob and Naruto are made the SAME exact way! just in other countries and art styles. (btw we need more western style anime like Panty and Stocking!)

What I like:

Community: I can talk to more fans and not have the other person be uninterested:P
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I really hate those people who critisize me for dropping shows and says that I judge anime by it's poster. Holy crap what is that logic? I drop them because they don't interest me and that is all and they also drop shows because of the same reasons. Where is the logic?

What I also don't like/hate are those oh my show is the best show ever and they can't even propper reasoning it and says that the shows I like/rate high are bullsh*t. I am not even allowed to point out a shows mistakes?

This user was correct. People find it weird I don't like all the shows they like..
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ObliviousOkapi said:


Elitists and Elitist haters
Is it contradictory to dislike both factions? But to be honest, I probably shouldn't have put 'Elitist' in there because I don't think I've ever seen a real one and probably wouldn't recognize them even if I did- because I have no clue what people even mean when they use the word. People who believe their opinion is supreme? People who only watch series at least 20 years old (apparently, at least 40 if they're hardcore enough). I do have a problem with people who consider their opinion unjustifiably superior- but that's out of my disinterest in generally dense people.

From what I intuitively infer from the word 'elitist', I believe an anime elitist should be someone who expects every show to be an intellectual masterpiece and looks down upon shows that resort to fan-service, slapstick humour etc in order to be successful, as well as fans of such shows. While I'd be glad to see smarter shows myself, I still think this kind of intolerance is needless.

Casualists who think poorly of the self-important attitude of elitists are contradicting themselves when they say they hate elitists for expecting all shows to have certain characteristics and then that people should be allowed to like/dislike whatever shows they want. Elitists are allowed to have opinions as well; if you feel they're being overly aggressive with theirs, ignore. I'm sure you have certain aspects in shows you don't like as well, it's just that you're probably not as vocal about it. Also, work out a singular definition of elitists. I'm not sure who you're hating on and I'm not sure you know either.

Merchandise Otakus (For the lack of a better word)
While I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with owning anime merchandise, I think it's sad that you have the kind of money to buy a shelf full of anime girl dolls (I'm not sure what they're called, sorry) and I think it's perverted and creepy and I'm not sure what you do with these things. (But I don't understand collectors and the motivation to collect articles in general, so perhaps it is my own naivete that needs working on). Regardless, I think it's a practice that should be discouraged just because it creates unhealthy incentives for the anime industry to further moe-ify shows.



I'm glad you agree with my points but I honestly have no idea what you're saying with the point of hating elitists and people who hate elitists? You didn't really bring up any points at all and contradicted yourself a lot.

Elitist just means someone who thinks themselves better than others and think their opinion is on a pedestal. Dumb to say you hate people that disagree with this mindset.

I think you're trying to say you hate people who hate elitists for the wrong reasons.. Which I guess makes sense. But yes they're actually elitists out there, proof is the anime snob on Youtube.

As for your second point I found hilarious, judging people who buy lots of anime merchandise.

I think you're putting a double standard on people who buy anime merch as opposed to gaming and or sports merchandise. It's just a hobby someone enjoys and it's their money. It's harmless. Who cares? You can be a normal human being while having lots of anime merchandise.

Judging someone for something as harmless as buying figurines and posters of anime girls out of mere disgust is the stupidest thing I've heard today.
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There are many types of anime fans I dislike. However, I will only list four of them

Hardcore dub fans

A lot of people complain about sub fans being rood ;( but what they completely miss out is that dub fans can be just as terrible, if not even worse. Yes, in dub discussions sub fans are usually the ones to show up first and trigger somebody by complaining about the quality of a specific dub or dubs in general, but who are the people who start attacking the other party by resorting to ad hominem insults and then whine about how "oppressed" they are by the "evil sub fans"? 9 times out of 10, it is the dub fans who ad hominem bomb the other party although the other party usually only insulted the audio and didn't even insult the fans of the dub to begin with

Their rhetoric is similar to the one SJWs and left wing extremists here in Sweden use and I simply cannot stand their bullshit

Weeaboos

The word "weeaboo" is thrown around and misused a lot here on the internet, and I dislike that. However, that doesn't mean there aren't actual weeaboos, and those are annoying. Basically, they're cursing their own heritage, won't shut up about how Japan is the most baka sugoi country on Earth and won't admit that it actually has flaws and yet they end up disrespecting the culture completely e.g. by thinking Japan is exactly like it is portrayed in anime. I also like Japan and I am currently learning the language (though not because of anime) but that doesn't mean I won't admit that the country does have some really big issues and that it's definitely not some kind of magical anime rainbow land.

Extreme anti piracy moralists

Basically, the ones that blame every single one of the anime industry's problems on us pirates and claim that it's our fault that the industry is dying and that we are supporting slavery by not buying anime products. Ironically enough, I would say that they are the ones supporting slavery considering that they're attempting to maintain a industry where the average wage for its employees/animators is even lower than that of a cashier at McDonald's. I don't even care about the industry that much and I think people should be allowed to buy anime if they want to but it pisses me off when people are blaming me for doing something they are doing

I say let the industry die so that it can be reborn again and so that people who aren't overly greedy monsters can take over

Casuals

No, this doesn't go for all casuals but a lot of mainstream anime have cancerous fanbases and I have enormous trouble getting along with them, especially if those fans happen to belong to the SAO/TG/SnK/Naruto/KyoAni fandom (That doesn't mean typical "elitist" anime don't attract idiots as well – just look at LOGH). They tend to use tremendous amounts of ad hominem and then when I prove them wrong with actual logic and arguments they usually get super pissed. There are a lot of people who hold a grudge against me simply because I don't like their favorite anime
Comic_SansFeb 19, 2016 12:51 AM
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Feb 19, 2016 12:56 AM
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I agree with OP on all the topics, especially about people hating dubs or people hating a show that they've never even watched. I watched the dub of Noragami and Durarara!, and my friends IRL who also happen to be on MAL totally bashed me for it. "English Dub is despicable". Like I honestly didn't think it was bad. The voice acting is pretty good in Noragami and I can work on my homework at the same time, as opposed to being forced to set aside specific "anime time". Also it honestly makes me sad when I get MAL hate for loving Naruto. I grew up watching that show, my sister collected the manga, and I've watched probably 500+ episodes and I still thought its good--fillers and all. Most people have only seen a few episodes and decided it wasn't for them. I really don't get why they have to tell me that I have shit taste, and go through the whole alphabet twice listing why they think Naruto is the biggest steaming pile of cow crap that's ever existed. I dunno~~ I always ignore the haters, or go through their favorites list and actually go check out their fav anime because idk you can always gain something good after a bad experience. I'd rather have exposure to new anime>tunnel vision/elitism
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No, this doesn't go for all casuals but a lot of mainstream anime have cancerous fanbases and I have enormous trouble getting along with them, especially if those fans happen to belong to the SAO/TG/SnK/Naruto/KyoAni fandom (That doesn't mean typical "elitist" anime don't attract idiots as well – just look at LOGH). They tend to use tremendous amounts of ad hominem and then when I prove them wrong with actual logic and arguments they usually get super pissed. There are a lot of people who hold a grudge against me simply because I don't like their favorite anime


I don't get what you're trying to say here. What are you proving them wrong about? Are you talking about proving that their fav is not very good? Because if so--You don't like how when you attack, and "prove them wrong" about an anime they enjoy, that they get defensive. If you attack anyone's preferences or favorites of course they will get defensive. Especially if you're exercising a elitist approach (i.e. trying to "prove them wrong"). Sorry if I am misinterpreting you.
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I don't get what you're trying to say here. What are you proving them wrong about? Are you talking about proving that their fav is not very good? Because if so--You don't like how when you attack, and "prove them wrong" about an anime they enjoy, that they get defensive. If you attack anyone's preferences or favorites of course they will get defensive. Especially if you're exercising a elitist approach (i.e. trying to "prove them wrong"). Sorry if I am misinterpreting you.
Maybe "prove them wrong" wasn't the right expression

If for example somebody in an anime discussion – where you are SUPPOSED to discuss, mind you – about SAO claims that Kirito isn't a harem lead and that he stayed 100 % faithful to Asuna all the time then I am going to go ahead and explain why I disagree with them
Nagirah said:
This thread is filled with so much salt it's unbelievable. Especially the sub/dub arguments, americans and native english speakers got so many problems it's sad. As a person who grew up reading subs and learned to speak english through this, I can say I dislike dubs from not just anime, but all the media possible.
+1

I wish more dub fans could understand this and not just go ahead and claim such bullshit like "all sub fans are weeaboos" and "It is impossible for me to notice details because I concentrate too much on reading subtitles and therefore I think sub fans can't notice details when they're watching something subbed as well"

I am from France and Sweden – aka one country where they dub and one where they sub – so I should know
Comic_SansFeb 19, 2016 1:14 AM
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Dub haters because they think every dub besides Cwboy Bebop is trash.
But there other good dubs like Code Geass, Ouran, Toradora, N.H.K, Gurren Lagann, FMAB and Durarara for example.

Anime Elitists
The praise the living hell of LOGH, Kaiba, The Tatami Galaxy while bashing amazing shows like Fate Series, Code Geass R1/R2, Toradora, Clannad, Evangelion (some of them) Madoka Magica and Raildex series.
Also most of the elitist on MAL are just ThatAnimeSnob followers.

Besides those two main issues I found the anime community to be fine for now.
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I agree with all the points that OP stated.
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I only dislike the people who tell me that "Your favourite anime Fairy Tail is trash" and "You only like High School DxD for the boobs because the story is shit". Just let me enjoy what I enjoy and don't tell me why I like something...
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Nagirah said:
This thread is filled with so much salt it's unbelievable. Especially the sub/dub arguments, americans and native english speakers got so many problems it's sad. As a person who grew up reading subs and learned to speak english through this, I can say I dislike dubs from not just anime, but all the media possible.


So you're so close minded in the belief that all dubs are bad and can never be better than the predecessor despite you probably not watching every dub created or 'many' dubs due to this attitude displayed?

Stop this stereotyping and don't say you dislike dubs in all forms of media despite not giving any reason. I don't care for preference but this is just dumb.
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