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Jan 17, 2016 1:22 PM

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Tylaen said:
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the "fanservice" moment at the end was pointless...

That barely counts as ecchi fanservice of any kind.

Exactly it adds nothing to the episode what so ever same as last week.
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Jan 17, 2016 1:24 PM

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I like the calm atmosphere this is giving ~ well apart from the fight lol
Also refreshing to see people struggling to kill for the first time.

Btw how is that a cat?? Reminds me more of a tapir...
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what character development?

they have trouble killing one goblin feel traumitized and then we get a 15 minute montage of them walking through the village with no dialogue then they decide to look at girls in the bath, everything A okay.....

what a waste of time.........

that Ranta kid is so annoying I was hoping that gob would've killed him tbh
Jan 17, 2016 1:32 PM

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bobzanny said:
Tylaen said:

That barely counts as ecchi fanservice of any kind.

Exactly it adds nothing to the episode what so ever same as last week.

I don't find the display of group dynamic, nor Ranta's obvious horny'ness to add "nothing", moreso that you simply care little for the display of such mundane teenage conversation.
Jan 17, 2016 1:34 PM

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I liked the fight against the goblin: the emotional toll it had on the members most involved in that little creature's death felt real. Though I regret the poor choice of BGM and placement of said BGM, be it near the end of the battle where we suddenly switch to loud hard rock, which barely leaves room for Haruhiro and co. to let the thought of having killed another humanoid being sink in (especially jarringwhen you consider how effective the use of silence was in the first episode), or be it around the 14 min mark where the sappy insert song starts playing and vastly overstays its welcome.
Other than that, it was a pretty good episode, better than the first at least.

ps: is it just me or is yume into manato?
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Jan 17, 2016 1:37 PM
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gust11 said:
I'm okay with the pacing, although it's really a shame that this is only gonna be 1-cour. As a reader of the LN I wish the anime had more time to show the great LN that it's adapting but whatever, life's just like that :/

Also dang, that foreshadowing in the OP. Not that anyone other than LN readers would note it xD


Ah, that beautiful sunset. (/flag)

Anyhow,

jc9622 said:
Oh my god....2 episode in and it's still boring as fuck...And that long-ass out of place insert song.

I'm going to put this show on hold till FUNimation dubs the series. Watchig a boring show in subs makes the show even more boring.

Pretty cool fighting scene though...I still have no idea why it took them that long to kill 1 goblin. Goblins are easy enemies in both MMORPG and (J)RPG


Stop comparing it to a RPG, it's not a RPG and you don't get XX stats that suddenly make you overpowered relative to a monster. Everyone starts somewhere and in real life, you know, plenty of animals can overwhelm a human being in strength or agility.



I also have mixed feelings like the other people posting here about the long-insert song; it is difficult to adapt the LN but at the same time keeping up with the 'they trained for x days, built up a relationship together' type of feeling.

And I wish people would stop complaining about fanservice about every episode when there really is no fanservice or showing of 'cleavage' for the sake of it; while the execution of characterizing Ranta might be poorly implemented and the pacing is slow, random antics is one thing, but this story is barely about fanservice and you don't see panty shots or random boob grabs every 2 minutes like ecchi shows. At least make a valid complaint.


what character development?

they have trouble killing one goblin feel traumitized and then we get a 15 minute montage of them walking through the village with no dialogue then they decide to look at girls in the bath, everything A okay.....

what a waste of time.........

that Ranta kid is so annoying I was hoping that gob would've killed him tbh

Yes, on the surface if a person got traumatized and realized how killing was unreal and unnatural relative to their baseline everyday carefree tendency life- and walking through the village with no dialogue certainly meant they did nothing for the day. The music was just some random jazz track inserted for no purpose at all. And yup, some annoying kid just wanted to peep at girls.

I am sure you can trivialize any anime episode if one only looks at one can see and not imagine the point of what is being shown. I do think the track was a bit bland and too extended where more actionable events should of been used, but well, that's just how it goes.
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Jan 17, 2016 1:37 PM

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Sapewloth said:
ps: is it just me or is yume into manato?
It's hard not to, he's such a caring lad
Jan 17, 2016 1:38 PM

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Intense fight which shows the struggles of being a noob and the psychological effect

the battle had on them was relate-able and the non dialog with music after the fight

calmed me down. Really good episode.
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Jan 17, 2016 1:38 PM

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Sapewloth said:
ps: is it just me or is yume into manato?
No.
Yume's expression change at the end was her relaxing from trying to keep the spirits up around Shihoru.
Jan 17, 2016 1:40 PM

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I know the group isn't killers and all but holy fuck was that goblin fight extremely pitiful. xD I still have no idea why they practically all decided to stand there until someone got hurt.
And then there was that self-insert song that lasted way longer than it should've. Makes me think there's barely gonna be anything worthwhile to see in the end. Hopefully it'll pick it up but I'm having doubts.
Jan 17, 2016 1:51 PM

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That was the most awkwardly placed insert song I've ever seen. And I really thought the show would be more interesting after that 1st epi, but I'm not even wanting to watch episode 3.
Jan 17, 2016 1:51 PM

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The process of killing that goblin was intense. LN was serious enough but here they made it even more serious.

Generally I loved that seriousness and started thinking about actually liking this adaptation a lot.

Then the music starts playing.

... okay...

Still it felt like that music lasted forever and at the end of the music there was short conversation and episode was done.

And now, I have completely no idea whatever this is truly good adaptation or not. Well I will say no, although the question whatever I like it or not is the one that is difficult to answer.

On one side I like it and it's clear that the creators are trying something new while at the other hand not all of their ideas go through.

Jan 17, 2016 1:52 PM

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I like some aspects of this, but the action is terribly scripted. 6v1 against a goblin that is smaller than humans; instead of attacking together, one person attacks and everyone else stands around; even when MC gets tackled by the goblin, everyone stands around for several seconds. And no one has a normal, balanced, mid-range longsword; all the fighters have close-range knives except the guy with the heavy, broad sword.
Jan 17, 2016 1:53 PM
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Jan 17, 2016 1:55 PM

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24 mins of waste of time.
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
Jan 17, 2016 1:55 PM

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Nice action, slow pace, 10/10 again. I miss the bath scene but if its in the OVA then im fine with that aswell :P release date for the OVA?
Jan 17, 2016 2:00 PM

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Meh. I'll keep watching but the slow place is throwing me off.
Jan 17, 2016 2:05 PM

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Smudy said:
Some people really don't know what good pacing and realism in anime is. It's hilarious.


who the fuck watches adventure anime for realism? thats fucking stupid, even slice of life isnt completely realistic, let alone fantasy adventure and "good pacing" is subjective, i could argue that this shows pacing is slow as hell, and therefore is not "good"

keep in mind i am enjoying this show, but your comment is more or less invalid
Jan 17, 2016 2:07 PM

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That goblin took so many hits to kill. Really cool scene imo. Really felt like an intense first killing experience for them.
Jan 17, 2016 2:12 PM

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koudez said:
what character development?

they have trouble killing one goblin feel traumitized and then we get a 15 minute montage of them walking through the village with no dialogue then they decide to look at girls in the bath, everything A okay.....

what a waste of time.........

that Ranta kid is so annoying I was hoping that gob would've killed him tbh

you just contradicted yourself..."feeling traumatized" (if you could spell) is part of their character development. theyre teenagers who have never actually killed anything that was so sentient and actually fought for their own survival. that puts things into perspective because theyre in the exact same position. they realize that everythings real right now and any one of them could die just like the goblin they killed. you get lots of characterization during the montage btw you were just too dense and myopic to see anything. the montage shows the mundane side of their lives; grimgars not all just about battle after battle the characters are people too here and the writers seemingly want to convey that. yume and shihoru go shopping, manato chills by the river, mogzo carves wood, and its all reflective of their personalities actually. also ranta is completely necessary for everyone to cope with their situation though i cant stand him either.
Jan 17, 2016 2:13 PM

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Nexxkinn said:
God, what were both director and commite thinking?
putting 6 minutes of full SoL-like insert song minutes AFTER that god-it's-horifying-my-hand-went-shiver scene? really?

Damn that annoyed me as well. After a fight with that much tension they just killed it with 6 minute boringness... Everything was going perfect and boom the slow pace came back.
Jan 17, 2016 2:14 PM

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I think they tried to make that fight look so realistic that it turned to be really stupid, i mean, that gobling had some kind of masterful combat tecnique, they should have made him their master.
Jan 17, 2016 2:19 PM

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Paulo27 said:
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ps: is it just me or is yume into manato?
No.
Yume's expression change at the end was her relaxing from trying to keep the spirits up around Shihoru.
well fuck

*proceeds to destroys all the Yunato sketches she just drew*

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Rly nigga? Did you srsly have to post the whole fckin chapter?
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Kellhus said:
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Jan 17, 2016 2:26 PM

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Very good episode. i like this show even more now. I felt sorry for the goblin tho, he was trying to survive so hard... But it's a cruel world - kill or be killed. Plus, the mc and his allies should work on their teamwork. 6 vs 1 and still struggling.
Jan 17, 2016 2:30 PM

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Paulo27 said:
Sapewloth said:
ps: is it just me or is yume into manato?
No.
Yume's expression change at the end was her relaxing from trying to keep the spirits up around Shihoru.

I thought that she liked Shihoru. LMAO
Jan 17, 2016 2:31 PM

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The goblin part was awsome, but afterwards... i mean why is there such a long scene like that with just music on the second episode.

On another note are we not gonna get more stuff on the guilds (actual scenes not exposicion trhough some conversation)? That would be a bummer... i was really intrigued by the thieves guild and the master thief woman.
Jan 17, 2016 2:32 PM

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Lollo36 said:
Paulo27 said:
No.
Yume's expression change at the end was her relaxing from trying to keep the spirits up around Shihoru.

I thought that she liked Shihoru. LMAO
Why are you trying to taint this pure show with yuri.
I'll never understand.
Jan 17, 2016 2:33 PM

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Paulo27 said:
No.
Yume's expression change at the end was her relaxing from trying to keep the spirits up around Shihoru.

I thought that she liked Shihoru. LMAO

How surprising seeing you thinking of that. :>>
Jan 17, 2016 2:37 PM
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Can someone who has read the LN tell/spoil me if there is romance between the characters and if there is , between who ?
Jan 17, 2016 2:38 PM

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mr_sam21 said:
Can someone who has read the LN tell/spoil me if there is romance between the characters and if there is , between who ?
You won't see any at least.

Actually, I mean, I guess you could see some, depends on how they handle some scenes or even if they change stuff entirely.
Jan 17, 2016 2:39 PM

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Hopefully I've triggered Yuu-vi-Britannia and now he'll go on an 800-word rant about yuri bait.

Paulo27 said:
Lollo36 said:

I thought that she liked Shihoru. LMAO
Why are you trying to taint this pure show with yuri.
I'll never understand.

It was more plausible than thinking that she was into the boy whom she never talked to :\
Jan 17, 2016 2:42 PM

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Lollo36 said:
It was more plausible than thinking that she was into the boy whom she never talked to :\
Maybe you should stop thinking altogether. :>> #burn
Jan 17, 2016 2:48 PM

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jc9622 said:


Pretty cool fighting scene though...I still have no idea why it took them that long to kill 1 goblin. Goblins are easy enemies in both MMORPG and (J)RPG


Except it's basically real life for them, and goblins aren't as much of pushovers compared to their video game counterparts, and especially compared to children who are even too scared to kill.

I'm also feeling bad for the goblins lol


I'm liking it so far. That part was unnecessarily long, but it showed the town's situation, how the characters go on about their daily lives and their relationships with each other. I'm assuming those 2 men sleeping in the shade were also thrown in that world with little to no recollection of their previous, so a lotta people are in the same situation as these guys.

Jan 17, 2016 2:49 PM

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The first 10 minutes were excellent. Watching the characters struggle and their sloppy teamwork as they were trying to kill that goblin was really entertaining but then the second half happened and ruined pretty much the episode for me. I get what the director was going for but placing that long insert song after the battle was a terrible decision and killed the entire tension.

The bath scene towards the end was really unnecessary. There are plenty of ways to show the dynamic between characters instead of making them peak on girls while they're bathing but ehh it was no big deal I guess.
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Lollo36 said:
Hopefully I've triggered Yuu-vi-Britannia and now he'll go on an 800-word rant about yuri bait.

Paulo27 said:
Why are you trying to taint this pure show with yuri.
I'll never understand.

It was more plausible than thinking that she was into the boy whom she never talked to :


Usually kind and gentleman-ly (strong but gentle) boys in anime yield a flustering or affectionate/calm expression so it would be more probable that she liked him rather than her in a romantic way.

Sapewloth said:
Paulo27 said:
No.
Yume's expression change at the end was her relaxing from trying to keep the spirits up around Shihoru.
well fuck

*proceeds to destroys all the Yunato sketches she just drew*

Rly nigga? Did you srsly have to post the whole fckin chapter?


1.6 chapters to be precise. Kind of, to answer ''why didn't they move''.

- Not fit
- Afraid to get hit

- Scene was adjusted in its adaptation (never did threw a knife and strangled him)
- They did try to chain attacks together


The bath scene towards the end was really unnecessary. There are plenty of ways to show the dynamic between characters instead of making them peak on girls while they're bathing but ehh it was no big deal I guess.



Not really. Ranta is an idiot and annoying. Get rid of him, he's useless. Is what we're suppose to think, in order to see the development and contrast later on.

Not to mention .6 of a chapter was dedicated to this, so at least a screen time of 10-15% of the anime episode is not too bad.
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Z4k said:
I get what the director was going for but placing that long insert song after the battle was a terrible decision and killed the entire tension.
I'm gonna sound crazy here but bear with me... it's like that was the point.
Jan 17, 2016 2:53 PM

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Guild of level 1 noobs practically gang rape an innocent level 2 goblin. Next minute it's a happy slice of life anime. Why do this?
Jan 17, 2016 3:05 PM

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Started out great and got to see a really good fight scene, it also let us know their pl and the grind that will follow... After that though there was nothing special, imo it completely ruined the tone of the fight for no reason. I would have preferred some decent dialog and then some shots of how there everyday life was to end it off. waste
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Syrosu said:
LETS STAND AND WATCH OUR FRIEND GET KILLED!

And no, it has nothing to do with it being 'realistic', if you're out with a friend and someone stabbed your friend and is not strangling him on the floor, would you just stand there and do shit all?


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MC's voice just doesnt fit.


exactly my thoughts and damn it was boring. Expected some drama or sth from preview and it was just someone's stabbing. Still I'm hopeful next episodes will bring more action, less just doing nothing.
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koudez said:
what character development?

they have trouble killing one goblin feel traumitized and then we get a 15 minute montage of them walking through the village with no dialogue then they decide to look at girls in the bath, everything A okay.....

what a waste of time.........

that Ranta kid is so annoying I was hoping that gob would've killed him tbh

you just contradicted yourself..."feeling traumatized" (if you could spell) is part of their character development. theyre teenagers who have never actually killed anything that was so sentient and actually fought for their own survival. that puts things into perspective because theyre in the exact same position. they realize that everythings real right now and any one of them could die just like the goblin they killed. you get lots of characterization during the montage btw you were just too dense and myopic to see anything. the montage shows the mundane side of their lives; grimgars not all just about battle after battle the characters are people too here and the writers seemingly want to convey that. yume and shihoru go shopping, manato chills by the river, mogzo carves wood, and its all reflective of their personalities actually. also ranta is completely necessary for everyone to cope with their situation though i cant stand him either.


You're so full of shit!!! Character development my ass.

First off I think the fight was awesome, and the MC's struggling with their humanity is great and all. I like that. But that horribly bland and awkward musical montage was just shit. It was a maybe the worst thing I've ever seen a director do to an anime. Calling it a cinematographic blunder of epic proportions is being nice about it. It told me nothing about the characters, it didn't advance the story and the only thing it made me feel was irritation. And all the things you highlight about it make the characters seem callous at best. If they where so incredibly impacted by the event, it's pretty horrible to go shopping like nothing happened.

Way I see it is that a lot of people are thinking like; "OOOOOOOOOOH It's Japanese so a six minute over the top montage of shit I don't want to see isn't lame but mysterious and meaningful... Because it's Japanese so it has to be."
But NO I say NO NO NOOOOOO. It's just horrible laziness on the part of the director and the production team! What are they thinking defiling their work with some horrible random ass generic bullshit musical montage?

Besides I had a peek at some related manga which was waaaaay better. They skipped the whole party formation thing (character development ahum), I assume for the sake of brevity. And then in the next episode they waste precious time on this shit. Anime's are usually only 20 minutes per episode and they never get enough of them to bring it to an acceptable ending. At this rate where is this anime going? It's a shame because I like the premise, and they way they did that fight shows there are some really talented people working on it. But at this rate they will either get stuck somewhere mid story, or the team will become gay as fuck and realize that they want to help the monsters or live with them.

But... playing devils advocate for a bit. I read a lot of complaints about fanservice and the juvenile dialog. Well these shows are made for juveniles so it has to be on their level. And fanservice... well boys will be boys, and boys like to masturbate :o
Jan 17, 2016 3:12 PM

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Love it. Love the art style, love the music, love the laid back pacing of it all. Also like the concept of having to kill a mob and having it feel like killing a person instead of just a generic enemy.

The fanservice in this anime is nothing to complain about imo. If it was over the top, they'd have shown the bath scene at the ending more detailed and all that stuff. I dunno, this kind of anime just really appeals to me haha.

I like how it takes its time and doesn't rush things or make the protagonists OP too quickly.
Jan 17, 2016 3:13 PM

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Sofar this show is a waste of time. There is nothing going on aside from some overdramatized goblin fight.

Its like the protagonists dont even give a damn about their situation.

that is not good enough. 2/5
Jan 17, 2016 3:13 PM

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Lollo36 said:
Hopefully I've triggered Yuu-vi-Britannia and now he'll go on an 800-word rant about yuri bait.

Paulo27 said:
Why are you trying to taint this pure show with yuri.
I'll never understand.

It was more plausible than thinking that she was into the boy whom she never talked to :\
maybe they talked off screen and you just didn't see it
or maybe she just thinks he's hot & alpha & shit

still makes more sense than your yuri pairing outta nowhere, in any case not that i would actually mind if there was some decent non fanservicey yuri in this show, tho I fear this won't be the case. :/
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Kellhus said:
GuusWayne said:
there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Jan 17, 2016 3:16 PM

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A1 wasted half of the episode with nothing. They could show the same random things in 2 minutes and carry on.

Wasting so much time won't reinforce the drama, it actually do the opposite thing when you try too hard. Anyone can get the message without the need of more than ten long boring minutes.
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Sapewloth said:
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Hopefully I've triggered Yuu-vi-Britannia and now he'll go on an 800-word rant about yuri bait.


It was more plausible than thinking that she was into the boy whom she never talked to :
maybe they talked off screen and you just didn't see it
or maybe she just thinks he's hot & alpha & shit

still makes more sense than your yuri pairing outta nowhere, in any case not that i would actually mind if there was some decent non fanservicey yuri in this show, tho I fear this won't be the case. :/

I laughed it off, who cares? ;)
That shot felt a bit weird and I came to what I thought was the most plausible conclusion at the moment, but we have our trustworthy LN reader here to correct our misinterpretations.
I don't care about any of the characters specifically yet, and I certainly won't ship Shy Girl n.28432 and Genki Girl n.3524631 after they had 2 scenes together.

mfw "maybe they talked off-screen" -.-
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Lollo36 said:
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maybe they talked off screen and you just didn't see it
or maybe she just thinks he's hot & alpha & shit

still makes more sense than your yuri pairing outta nowhere, in any case not that i would actually mind if there was some decent non fanservicey yuri in this show, tho I fear this won't be the case. :/

I laughed it off, who cares? ;)
That shot felt a bit weird and I came to what I thought was the most plausible conclusion at the moment, but we have our trustworthy LN reader here to correct our misinterpretations.
I don't care about any of the characters specifically yet, and I certainly won't ship Shy Girl n.28432 and Genki Girl n.3524631 after they had 2 scenes together.
This stuff isn't really in the novels but I'm guessing that's very likely it because that's what Ranta does and he was looking just as depressed + it still makes more sense than what both of you said, even if you could totally assume it was that. xD
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I expect a lot with this anime but this episode lost me a little. The first half was really great but by the second half, I really just wanted the episode over.

In the beginning, it was great to see the thoughts about the importance of roles, placement and so on, and it really felt like they had a good grasp of storytelling. Once they returned to town though, it really seems to get lost. That long song with the little shots around town i guess were to develop the town and its citizens but it all seemed fairly commonplace stuff. That last scene with the boys was also useless.

Overall, it seemed like half of the episode was random filler. Aside from more details about Ranta's Class, i feel like this episode didnt really develop the story any.
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So I'm feeling a very Slice of Life version of SAO + Log Horizon + DanMachi with this series. Just gonna keep giving it time, like 2 more episodes at least.
Don't believe the hype.
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I quite liked that little insert song bit, it was quite nice. Finally they got their first kill!

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It feels really slow, but in a way, it's good. The song was a bit too long, but the action was great this time.

Pretty good, but not my favorite anime of the season.
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