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Nov 17, 2015 4:26 PM
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PoeticJustice said:
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i'm glad the teacher got fired wtf....that's fucked


nah, that is too harsh. Give her some kind of training. Teaching is her livelihood, she probably has a family.


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Nov 17, 2015 4:26 PM

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Eden2307 said:
What I want to know is exactly what age did the 6 year old child decide they were apparently transgender?
If the teacher is to be believed the child still has no idea wtf is going on, and if that's the case the child's opinion or wishes should garner zero respect.
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Nov 17, 2015 4:27 PM
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Red_Keys said:
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When you're an adult, 18. Until then stop screwing with the status quo.
So did you not know if you were a boy or girl until you were 18?


lol are you seriously pretending that accepting your biological sex just like the majority of the human population is equivalent to knowing whether you're trans or not at a very young age?

come ON

You're smarter than that... right?
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Is it the legal, official name?

No?

Then the teacher doesn't deserve any punishment whatsoever for calling the little brat by its actual name.

All the kid has to do is file some papers for an official name change, not pull a little temper tantrum and embarrass itself in the future. Christ.
Nov 17, 2015 4:34 PM

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Red_Keys said:
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If someone wants to start changing shit, they should wait until nobody else is responsible for dealing with them.
You're trying so, so desperately to make it out like a 6 year old is tyrannically oppressing adults. It's incredibly embarrassing.
No I'm not, but if you'd like I could speak to how unbelievably stupid it is that something so trivial, which shouldn't even be a fucking thing, cost an honest person their job and most likely their future from here on out. All because everyone needs to feel oh so super duper special and unique, and going against that concept means you might as well be a satanic terrorist. And FFS it's a 6 year old, school at that age is essentially a daycare with an itinerary, unless you purposely cause physical harm to them or something goes horribly wrong from severe negligence how can anyone justify firing a teacher?
Nov 17, 2015 4:35 PM

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>too young to identify as a specific gender
>but not too young to legally change their own name

ok

GodAndTheBear said:
lol are you seriously pretending that accepting your biological sex just like the majority of the human population is equivalent to knowing whether you're trans or not at a very young age?

come ON

You're smarter than that... right?
What are you talking about?
Nov 17, 2015 4:36 PM
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PoeticJustice said:
TV said:
i'm glad the teacher got fired wtf....that's fucked


nah, that is too harsh. Give her some kind of training. Teaching is her livelihood, she probably has a family.
But the girl was a guy that day so she deserved it
Nov 17, 2015 4:37 PM

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ibear said:
All because everyone needs to feel oh so super duper special and unique


I'm done
Nov 17, 2015 4:37 PM

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A 6 year old can't legally change their own name.
Nov 17, 2015 4:37 PM

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I sometimes wonder how transgenders parents feel.
Nov 17, 2015 4:38 PM

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Red_Keys said:
>too young to identify as a specific gender
>but not too young to legally change their own name

ok

you can change your name back. You can't say "guys I'm actually a guy in a girls body" and then 4 years later say "LOL JK I'M ACTUALLY A GUY AFTER ALL". there's a difference.
Nov 17, 2015 4:38 PM

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I sometimes wonder how transgenders parents feel.
Damn 15 year olds not being the president
Nov 17, 2015 4:39 PM

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A six year old * facepalm* its okay if they prefer a certain name but if its totally different than their actual name and if its not on the register then you cant really expect them to take a six year old serious.
Nov 17, 2015 4:40 PM

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Red_Keys said:
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I sometimes wonder how transgenders parents feel.
Damn 15 year olds not being the president

At least a normal kid still has chances, unlike a mentally ill being.
Nov 17, 2015 4:41 PM

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I love how everybody here is (apparently?) under the impression that like a 6 year old conducted the lawsuit and took independent legal action, with no parent action and intervention.

Like they showed up to court in a little suit and brief case.
Nov 17, 2015 4:42 PM

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ibear said:
A 6 year old can't legally change their own name.
You can with parent's permission. And that's what the kid should have done.
Nov 17, 2015 4:44 PM

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Red_Keys said:
I love how everybody here is (apparently?) under the impression that like a 6 year old conducted the lawsuit and took independent legal action, with no parent action and intervention.

Like they showed up to court in a little suit and brief case.

...no? I'm upset that the parents made the decision to do so for the child.
Nov 17, 2015 4:45 PM

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Red_Keys said:
I love how everybody here is (apparently?) under the impression that like a 6 year old conducted the lawsuit and took independent legal action, with no parent action and intervention.

Like they showed up to court in a little suit and brief case.

I don't think anyone here is implying that, but whatever.
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I'd like to know why I wasn't called Sir Michael by everyone after I played knights and dragons that one time. 7 year old me definitely thought he was a knight that slew dragons. But nobody gave a shit about what a 7 year old thinks or wants, because he's a fucking a 7 year old that could've been an alien in half an hour.
Nov 17, 2015 4:48 PM

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ibear said:
I'd like to know why I wasn't called Sir Michael by everyone after I played knights and dragons that one time. 7 year old me definitely thought he was a knight that slew dragons. But nobody gave a shit about what a 7 year old thinks or wants, because he's a fucking a 7 year old that could've been an alien in half an hour.


B-but you have to respect them! I mean its not like thier is a hiarchy of power! or social responsibilities! Muh feel'ns!
Nov 17, 2015 4:51 PM

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Red_Keys said:
I love how everybody here is (apparently?) under the impression that like a 6 year old conducted the lawsuit and took independent legal action, with no parent action and intervention.

Like they showed up to court in a little suit and brief case.
No one here is saying anything to suggest that.
Nov 17, 2015 4:52 PM

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@Red_Keys, I dislike her parents just as much as I dislike everyone who supports them. I don't dislike the 6 year old, because she's a 6 year old and has no idea what's even going on.

RedArmyShogun said:
ibear said:
I'd like to know why I wasn't called Sir Michael by everyone after I played knights and dragons that one time. 7 year old me definitely thought he was a knight that slew dragons. But nobody gave a shit about what a 7 year old thinks or wants, because he's a fucking a 7 year old that could've been an alien in half an hour.


B-but you have to respect them! I mean its not like thier is a hiarchy of power! or social responsibilities! Muh feel'ns!
Apparently this 6 year old is more super duper special than we were.
Nov 17, 2015 4:58 PM

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ibear said:
Apparently this 6 year old is more super duper special than we were.

Because he is being progressive in the society, unlike a Nazi like you going back and discriminating against everyone for no reason. /s
Nov 17, 2015 5:00 PM

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This is stupid in every way

1. Its not a big deal for her to use a different name if its written down in some teacher note
2. Its not a big deal for her to not use a different name. At least not enough to fire her over it.
Nov 17, 2015 5:04 PM
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mayukachan said:
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I say encouraged instead of should. There's no detriment to not using the requested name as long as the replacement isn't offensive.
Your job as a teacher (other than to educate them) is to respect and make your students feel accepted. You can't just be like "oh I don't think you're a boy so fuck that, i'll call you by your legal name"

idk, in my schools, kids had a right to pick their names they want to be called by



In my high school teachers during the first day of class would take attendance and ask students if they had a name they preferred to by called by and also ask them if he/she was pronouncing their names correctly. I remember one student told his math teacher to call him Goochi Swag because he wore only Goochi shirts.

Nov 17, 2015 5:08 PM

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Griffith said:
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So at what age are people allowed to be trans


No age, just kill themselves.
Nov 17, 2015 5:20 PM

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Red_Keys said:
Alexspier said:
I sometimes wonder how transgenders parents feel.
Damn 15 year olds not being the president
Hahaha.
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@Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian.
Nov 17, 2015 5:24 PM

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Red_Keys said:
So at what age are people allowed to be trans


usually around 17. but I heard some transgender already took hormone earlier than that.
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Nov 17, 2015 5:28 PM

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wow hahaha the lawsuits in murrica never fail to amaze me
Nov 17, 2015 5:30 PM

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STILL, I think 6 years old is too early to decide sexuality. that thought may changed in time
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Nov 17, 2015 5:38 PM

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Wiki says that "transgender people experience a mismatch between their gender identity or gender expression and their assigned sex." HealthyChildren.org says that "before their third birthday, most children are easily able to label themselves as either a boy or a girl. By age four, most children have a stable sense of their gender identity." If those statements are roughly correct, then most six year olds will know whether or not they are transgender. They might not know exactly how they identify, but they don't need to know in order to be genuinely transgender.
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@Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian.
Nov 17, 2015 5:48 PM

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Lmao.

The fuck has the world come to.

A preferred male and female name depending on the day? If I was the teacher I'd spank this kid's ass for making me so annoyed.

The cancer has begun, SJWs are going to kill this planet before anything else.
Nov 17, 2015 5:54 PM

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hoopla123 said:
If I was the teacher I'd spank this kid's ass for making me so annoyed.

lol promoting child abuse :^)

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Nov 17, 2015 5:54 PM

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CaimTheJoyful said:
Is it the legal, official name?

No?

Then the teacher doesn't deserve any punishment whatsoever for calling the little brat by its actual name.

All the kid has to do is file some papers for an official name change, not pull a little temper tantrum and embarrass itself in the future. Christ.

This^ Why is this even a debate?
Nov 17, 2015 5:58 PM

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Mooncake said:
PoeticJustice said:


nah, that is too harsh. Give her some kind of training. Teaching is her livelihood, she probably has a family.
But the girl was a guy that day so she deserved it


retweet.
Nov 17, 2015 5:58 PM

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mayukachan said:
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If I was the teacher I'd spank this kid's ass for making me so annoyed.

lol promoting child abuse :^)

i love MAL


I'll spank the SJW bullshit out of him.

It's for the greater good
Nov 17, 2015 6:07 PM

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hoopla123 said:
mayukachan said:

lol promoting child abuse :^)

i love MAL


I'll spank the SJW bullshit out of him.

It's for the greater good
Do it before they decide they're a girl again and it's seen as sexual harassment. :o
Nov 17, 2015 6:13 PM

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And I still can't get anybody to call me Admiral. This craziness is just as indecisive on being either humorous or saddening. Maybe it's both.
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Nov 17, 2015 6:14 PM

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Red_Keys said:
So at what age are people allowed to be trans


What age will a child know what being trans really means? She'll answer you "like Optimus! Robot then trailer and back again!!!!".
#CHEXIT
Nov 17, 2015 6:39 PM

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The sjws have gone too far,,,

This is becoming like a dystopian society,,,this world us,going to hell,,,
Nov 17, 2015 6:46 PM

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kobun said:
The sjws have gone too far,,,

This is becoming like a dystopian society,,,this world us,going to hell,,,


Did I forget to spray Raid?
Nov 17, 2015 6:47 PM

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kobun said:
The sjws have gone too far,,,

This is becoming like a dystopian society,,,this world us,going to hell,,,


I found you.
Nov 17, 2015 6:49 PM

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traed said:
kobun said:
The sjws have gone too far,,,

This is becoming like a dystopian society,,,this world us,going to hell,,,


I found you.
[yt]b3Ow7a7Viwk[/ yt]
lmao i think she just wanted a free ride
Nov 17, 2015 6:51 PM

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traed said:
kobun said:
The sjws have gone too far,,,

This is becoming like a dystopian society,,,this world us,going to hell,,,


I found you.

the,dark ages are coming,,,
Nov 17, 2015 6:52 PM

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PoeticJustice said:
kobun said:
The sjws have gone too far,,,

This is becoming like a dystopian society,,,this world us,going to hell,,,


Did I forget to spray Raid?

spray the raid!!!!!
the sjws r increasing!!!!1
Nov 17, 2015 6:57 PM

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Josh said:
Wiki says that "transgender people experience a mismatch between their gender identity or gender expression and their assigned sex." HealthyChildren.org says that "before their third birthday, most children are easily able to label themselves as either a boy or a girl. By age four, most children have a stable sense of their gender identity." If those statements are roughly correct, then most six year olds will know whether or not they are transgender. They might not know exactly how they identify, but they don't need to know in order to be genuinely transgender.
However, at age 6, kids don't know what being transgender is, and are extremely susceptible to outside influence. There's a high chance that some stupid moron "taught" the kid about transgenders, the kid picked it up not really knowing anything about them other than that someone liked them, and then this came about.

At 6, a kid may recognize not feeling quite right, but might just as easily be goaded into imagining something that's not true. That's why they're not taken at their word. As for the teacher, the parents have ultimate control. If they did not give clear instructions on a single name to use, and it must be a single name for the benefit of the teacher, the kid, and all the other kids there, she does not have to listen to the kid frequently wanting to change it. If, with what little information we have, this was not done, there is no cause for any disciplinary action whatsoever.


Now, we actually don't know anything on this case. All we have are the teacher's claims. The teacher claims this was why she was fired, but it's not uncommon for rightfully terminated people to come up with wrongful reasons they were terminated and try to sue. Some are cynically trying to game the system, while others just have an entitled or "they're out to get me" mentality. The teacher still could be either of these.
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traed said:
kobun said:
The sjws have gone too far,,,

This is becoming like a dystopian society,,,this world us,going to hell,,,


I found you.
welp, this video led me to all kinds of good related videos. ty for this.




goodnight

Nov 17, 2015 7:33 PM

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this transgender non-sense should stop
Nov 17, 2015 8:10 PM
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Her employer says the dismissal was unrelated to her claims although they did not actually specify why, which given the lawsuit and defamation laws is not surprising. Without further information, I am inclined to believe them. If she called the child by her enrolled name or preferred name approved by the parents, the kindy has no reason to fire her.
Nov 18, 2015 6:12 AM
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Gender isn't so easily changed. You can't just say 'well now I'm a boy'. Christ, how can this kids parents allow this? If the kid actually and completely wants to go through with this, wait til she's older to make the decision.

Ugh. This day and age.
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