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-Luhui said: I read the thread, but am I missing something? From what Ginti said for Harada's soul to be saved from the void another soul has to go there in exchange right? Mayu seemed more than willing to sacrifice herself in order to save Harada. Did she not choose for herself to go to the void? We didn't actually see what choice she made; not that it mattered since any choice she had made would have sent her to the void anyway - Ginti made it a lose lose lose situation where she was not allowed to not choose. Yeah, are we 100% sure that Mayu decided to sacrifice the guy? From what we've seen of her throughout the series, she doesn't seem like the person to sacrifice someone, even if it was for Harada. Maybe she made the decision to sacrifice herself, and joined Harada in the void. In that sense, it's kind of sweet. Even though Mayu and Harada are doomed to wander endlessly in the void, at least they're joined together. And that's why the mask was set for for reincarnation, because Mayu was willing to sacrifice herself. But since Ginti's a dick, he sent them to the void just because. That's how I saw it. |
Mormegil said: -Luhui said: I read the thread, but am I missing something? From what Ginti said for Harada's soul to be saved from the void another soul has to go there in exchange right? Mayu seemed more than willing to sacrifice herself in order to save Harada. Did she not choose for herself to go to the void? We didn't actually see what choice she made; not that it mattered since any choice she had made would have sent her to the void anyway - Ginti made it a lose lose lose situation where she was not allowed to not choose. Yeah, are we 100% sure that Mayu decided to sacrifice the guy? From what we've seen of her throughout the series, she doesn't seem like the person to sacrifice someone, even if it was for Harada. Maybe she made the decision to sacrifice herself, and joined Harada in the void. In that sense, it's kind of sweet. Even though Mayu and Harada are doomed to wander endlessly in the void, at least they're joined together. And that's why the mask was set for for reincarnation, because Mayu was willing to sacrifice herself. But since Ginti's a dick, he sent them to the void just because. That's how I saw it. true, funny how people instantly assumed the OBVIOUS :P i mean the scene was hidden for a reason and its to keep us wondering about Ginti and mayu's persona :P but in any case their choices didnt really matter in a way , cz people MISSED the important issue here which was the OUTCOME ..... i "think" that the writer tried to show us yet another impossible situation where the judgment fails and how the current system is flawed, cz if u think about it, it didnt matter what mayu would have chosen , she and harada would have ended up in the void regardless. |
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Gov said: Ginti made the right decision. People questioning his decision are idiots. Harada had all the makings of being a void placement. Selfish, shallow, a serial cheater and caused one of his lovers to commit suicide. He deserved void without a shadow of a doubt. He was on the fence with Mayu. So what did he do? He tested her by asking her to choose Harada and other guy to go to void. Mayu didn't even have the audacity to ask who the other guy was or what he did in his life but instead blindly choose Harada. Ginti gave her another chance by asking her what her life would be without Harada and she said "nothing". Totally meaningless. Meaning that if she was to go reincarnation, her life would be meaningless unless she found someone to look up.Void was her destination. Ginti was on point and the people crying foul, need to grow the fuck up. Seconded. She was going to sacrifice someone without knowing a thing about them for someone who had already been judged as guilty. |
| The one who use death note should go straight to void when they died, why is light there? |
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| Light Yagami in an anime episode, yet FOUR straight minutes without internal monologue mind games? WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT!? I have no clue what the deal with Grumpy Arse getting rid of Idiot School Girl was. Got impression he lied to her or... sumat. But what really matters is that he found her just as annoying as me and sent her off to the void. Good man. An arsehole, for sure, but a hero in my eyes. The ice-skating choreography, piano music and silent story-telling was fairly amazing, also. Was pleasantly surprised to see an anime SHOW ME, rather than just tell. And look beautiful at the same time. Bravo, Madhhouse. |
Gov said: Ginti made the right decision. People questioning his decision are idiots. Harada had all the makings of being a void placement. Selfish, shallow, a serial cheater and caused one of his lovers to commit suicide. He deserved void without a shadow of a doubt. He was on the fence with Mayu. So what did he do? He tested her by asking her to choose Harada and other guy to go to void. Mayu didn't even have the audacity to ask who the other guy was or what he did in his life but instead blindly choose Harada. Ginti gave her another chance by asking her what her life would be without Harada and she said "nothing". Totally meaningless. Meaning that if she was to go reincarnation, her life would be meaningless unless she found someone to look up.Void was her destination. Ginti was on point and the people crying foul, need to grow the fuck up. I'll have to agree with that ^^ |
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| lol Light Yagami or Harada? Very good episode again, nice skating scene. |
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Gov said: Ginti made the right decision. People questioning his decision are idiots. Harada had all the makings of being a void placement. Selfish, shallow, a serial cheater and caused one of his lovers to commit suicide. He deserved void without a shadow of a doubt. He was on the fence with Mayu. So what did he do? He tested her by asking her to choose Harada and other guy to go to void. Mayu didn't even have the audacity to ask who the other guy was or what he did in his life but instead blindly choose Harada. Ginti gave her another chance by asking her what her life would be without Harada and she said "nothing". Totally meaningless. Meaning that if she was to go reincarnation, her life would be meaningless unless she found someone to look up.Void was her destination. Ginti was on point and the people crying foul, need to grow the fuck up. This cleared everything up. |
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| The ice skating scene was so beautiful. I'm sad her life ended that way. I have a feeling Ginti sent a little too many people to void. TheUnbiasedOne91 said: LMFAO! Now I see why XDakarin- said: lol so this why they said people dying faster recently. Light from Death Note WTF? :D |
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| This was a pretty lovely episode I must say, very interesting and that iceskating was pretty lovely as well together with that dramatic ending! I do wonder what they'll end of this series in the next and final episode though. |
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Gov said: Ginti made the right decision. People questioning his decision are idiots. Harada had all the makings of being a void placement. Selfish, shallow, a serial cheater and caused one of his lovers to commit suicide. He deserved void without a shadow of a doubt. He was on the fence with Mayu. So what did he do? He tested her by asking her to choose Harada and other guy to go to void. Mayu didn't even have the audacity to ask who the other guy was or what he did in his life but instead blindly choose Harada. Ginti gave her another chance by asking her what her life would be without Harada and she said "nothing". Totally meaningless. Meaning that if she was to go reincarnation, her life would be meaningless unless she found someone to look up.Void was her destination. Ginti was on point and the people crying foul, need to grow the fuck up. The thing that doesn't make sense in this line of reasoning however is that if people were judged just off their life they wouldn't need to test them after death. I figured that they test them because a persons life won't always tell of who they are. If we took away from his test then Haruda would not be a sure void candidate as he tried to save Mayu's life, though he COULD still be put in the void if all things considered lean in that direction. But to expand on that, Ginti's test seemed 100% unfair, it was set up so that Mayu could't refuse. My question really is why wasn't Mayu judged in the first place? She seemed to do nothing wrong in life and she sacrificed herself (for all Ginti knows) to save Haruda. I feel like Ginti didn't reincarnate Mayu because he would have felt like he was wrong about humans all along, so Ginti set up a test where he would have reason to send her to the void (you can see that in the smile he has when he knows which choice she's gonna make). Since we haven't seen anyone else Ginti has judged, based on this episode I wouldn't be surprised if he never reincarnated someone. If people have a problem with him I feel it is fair if the reasoning is on how unfair he handled her. I actually don't hate Ginti, but I see that his personality is what lead him to force her into the void unfairly. |
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| Ok, wow. That actually made me cry, which is fairly rare for an anime to do nowadays. I don't want to rock the boat and if I'm wrong that's fine, but the way I see it with Ginti is that maybe he made a compromise? Here's my rationale: 1. Harada was probably going to go into the void no matter what (because of all the things shown in his episode). 2. Ginti, because the way Ginti is, probably wouldn't change his choice. 3. Ginti didn't know what to do with Mayu, as shown by the fact she is still in his bar, which only seems to happen if a judgement cannot be made. 4. Therefore, Mayu could have either gone to the void or reincarnation, though maybe Ginti leaned more on the side of reincarnation. 5.He asked Mayu what meaning her life would have without Harada, and she said it would have no meaning. 6. Ginti, maybe like Decim, gained respect for Mayu and therefore wanted her to live a life with meaning. 7. He can't reincarnate both because he decided Harada was going to the void and he can't just send Mayu into reincarnation because then her life would have no meaning. 8. So, he compromised, sending them both into the void together so they could be together, and Mayu could still have meaning, while also upholding his judgement of Harada. Anyway, if you want to challenge feel free. I can't think of why he included the 'cast a soul into the void test', except maybe as a final ditch effort to see if she deserved to be in the void of her own free actions or not? Anyway, brilliant series! |
| Momento Mori is a very fitting name for this episode. We tend not to notice life as we're living it. We tend to undervalue our lives. Momento mori, remember death. Carpe diem, seize the day. The tragedy is that Chiyuki only grasps these lessons after her suicide. |
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| The ice skating scene was fantastic, expecially the music. Suicide though... tsk. |
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| WTF dude? ginti u piece of shit. >.< and that appearance of light was hilarious lmfao It all makes sense, people dying faster and stuff lol XD |
| Beautiful skate scene. Chiyaki isn't wrong on how we are all alone in the end. No matter how close someone is it will never completely understand us. Still not really a reason to kill yourself. She was just going threw some depression. |
| This episode was really good and kind of sad. It's finally nice to know more about Chiyuki and the skating scene was really beautiful. I don't hate on Ginti because of his judgement but it was still so sad. It nearly got tears in my eyes at the end. I can't believe that the next one really is the last episode. I hope everything goes well. Seems like Nona is in trouble with the weird beard dude. TheUnbiasedOne91 said: akarin- said: Light from Death Note WTF? :D lol so this why they said people dying faster recently. Lmao ^^ My thoughts exactly. Oh Light... Sadly I think he will still end up in the void. |
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Tokoya said: TheUnbiasedOne91 said: Suddenly it all makes sense to me now lollol so this why they said people dying faster recently. This destroyed me BAHAHAHAHHAHAH Anyway, the ice skating scene was so beautiful. So, Ginti sent Mayu and Harada to the void.... Does that mean that she chose not to send that guy (who looks exactly like Light) to the void instead of Haraka? Well, if so, how come Ginti left Harada in the void anyway? I guess he is just a dick then... Anyway, next episode is the last and it seems damn interesting *.* |
| Lol @ dat Light doe. Wonder where he went ;) Fuck u Ginti |
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TheUnbiasedOne91 said: akarin- said: Light from Death Note WTF? :D lol so this why they said people dying faster recently. My thoughts exactly. Still funny cameo. If only Mayu knew who he was lol. I have to admit though the ice skating scene from start to finish was just brilliant. can't wait to see if the Blu Ray version is tidier. |
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| What can I say? Well, suffice it to say that I almost cried all the time; with the start of the ending, I had to stop because my vision was blurred by tears. Small defects seen in the drawings, almost no one pays any time is permeating the drama lasted narration. Fascinating characters, I'm sorry to leave them, so also for the character of Mayu; that final touching. I'm almost afraid to see the next episode, I already know how it will go out; I'll pretty much take a few hours after the vision, just to make me stronger. Ginti must prove himself what pain and death. Muahahahahhaah !!!! |
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Akarin said: Light from Death Note WTF? :D Lmao that was exactly what I was thinking. I didnt like the fact Ginti send them to the void, I guess he couldnt accept her reasoning after all. The ice skating scene was pretty cool :) |
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| WTF is Light doing here? I thought he had turned into a Shinigami. |
| Ginti should fuck off. Literally. |
AikaKateshiki said: Lahi said: Chiyuki death by suicide was very disappointing. "I can't skate anymore thus I should kill myself. Sounds like a plan." If she had died because of a skating accident, would have been much imho. The character is somewhat stained after this episode. This is not what happened. After the incident, she clearly understood that even with her friends and family beside her, she doesn't have a meaning to her existense.She even mentioned it wasn't because she couldn't skate anymore; it was due to the fact that she realized her life is nothing but a shallow shell. Thus she started resenting herself and committed suicide. Well I think that's just the same. Her friends and life were revolving around skating so it's like she had a moment of despair due to that. She didn't even try to find a new glimmer of happiness and goal. Skating scene was so sad and yet, so beautiful. Seems like Decim is somehow in love with her. Gindi is the biggest asshole ever.I liked him first but now I loathe. Why he can send them to the void just because he doesn't like something? I don't even understand why Harada was sent to void in the first place. Okay he thought about pushing Mayu to her death but after that he tried to save her. And I don't like how it's like the world's biggest love story. Mayu has devoted herself to Harada, but he loves someone named Lisa. |
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| It does suck that Harada and Mayu were sent to the void, but I mean, at least they ended together, for all eternity. Honestly, as long as I'm with someone I truly care about than the void would be doable for me. |
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| Moonlit night is such a beautiful song that it brought me to tears.The skating scene was brilliant. |
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| LOL Light omg hahaha And cant believe Ginti did that. Really dumb... both to void? Really? |
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| Ginti didnt lie you fuckbois. He promised her the dude would wake up and he did. |
| Never liked Ginti. Nona runn for your life xD Chiyukis story is just so sad ;( |
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| chiyuki ;-; omg the ending was rlly creepy imo |
| Just one episode left please tell me there is gonna be a season 2 ! Nice Light Yagami cameo |
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| Omg, Light Yagami cameo. x'D I wish this series would never end @-@ |
| Great episode. We were finally able to to know more about the past of Chiyuki. We have Light Yagami in this episode !! XD Ginti, I hate you ! Bad decision ! :( |
| wow, Chiyuki's ice skating scene was amazing, made me want to look up iceskating animes. haha RIP to fangirl and idol. they had such a moment..... |
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