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Sep 10, 2015 11:38 AM

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Damn, first time I've been pissed at the end of an episode of this entire series, poor Takeo..
Sep 10, 2015 12:16 PM

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Here comes netorare people. You know what? I should have never bothered with Ore Monogatari forums. Every week, there's always some topic which annoys the hell out of me.

Ichinose is a fun guy but arrogant and kinda rude as well. Not a bad guy though. If this story was about him and Yamato solely, I would have shipped them. As that's not the case, I am not going to. Yamato x Takeo's love for each other is too strong anyways (no, I don't ship them but I do admit their love for each other)
Sep 10, 2015 12:45 PM

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Figured this scenario would pop up. Well, it's a good way to set up for the finale, so whatever. It'll end with Takeo gaining more confidence in himself.
Sep 10, 2015 12:54 PM

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i just can't see how anyone would be able to see ichinose as "a decente guy and good character" he's extremely arrogant and narcissistic, celf centered and a boaster, while he might be a realistic character, i just want to remind everyone the he just has gona up to the boyfriend of the girl he likes saying "i'm better than you and more fit to her as a boyfriend", sure, kudos for the courage in doing that with takeo, but that's just because he is too much full of himself and that actually makes me hate him even more.
Sep 10, 2015 1:20 PM

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I didn't expect a love rival to Takeo going into the finale
It was very weak
Sep 10, 2015 2:27 PM

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I actually thought that episode 23 was going to be about Ai finally moving on from Takeo and with the hope of giving a chance to the guy that was chasing her.

I thought this anime was done with the love challenge stuff, specially since the two of them have already kissed. Shame its taking this route to close out the anime. And its even more of a shame that Rinko will not even know that that guy likes her, so it will all be a waste of time.
Sep 10, 2015 3:10 PM
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I really liked this episode. Finally we can see Takeo feeling something not "heroic", like jealousy and insecurity. It feels really natural for him to feel insecure about it, because although he listens to Yamato's passionate talking about cakes, he can't really contribute anything and obviously feels inferior.

That Ichinose guy doesn't actually love Yamato. He idealises her, sees her as his "muse", and when he tells Takeo to break up with her he doesn't really care what's better for her, but only what's better for him ("I need her"). Takeo sees Yamato more as the person she is. But he does have some valid points there, though it doesn't make him a more suitable partner for her.

On a side note, I love Suna being called Makoto. The name really suits him.
Sep 10, 2015 5:46 PM

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Earth_General said:
Everyone's talking about how they hate the chef but can you really blame him the whole ep. Yamato was leading him on even if wasn't intential when she says she'll buy the remaining treats she doesn't mention she'll eat them with takeo

Why wouldn't she say had a bf right there no reason to hide it. She only mentions it after he fell for her when it's to late. Not to mention she known him for what 2 days? And it's fine to call her by her 1st name? Didn't she meet takeo later the same day? Wouldn't she realize that takeo still calls her last name and asked to be called that? I think she's more at fault then any of the boys.


Not sure why no one else sees this, but I have to agree with you here. Yamato had no reason to initially hide the fact that she had a boyfriend to anyone. She's a part-timer, and the youngest of the bunch. It's not like letting people know that she's taken from the off would affect their opinion of her much. Knowing her personality, she probably didn't do it on purpose, but it still doesn't take away from the fact that she did it.
I know she's young and all that, but if she really cared so much for Takeo's well-being, she should be conscious of the real fact of external third-parties might try to butt their way into their relationship (like the girls who she suspected liked Takeo previously). If you're mature enough to date exclusively, then you should be mature enough to know to look out for the other person's feelings and well-being in a relationship.

Knew someone that did stuff like that, sent mixed signals to her older coworkers, never admitting she was taken. Tried to brush it off as nothing when with her guy, but the truth was everyone and their uncle could see she was doing it on purpose (i.e. gold digger). Ended up getting her arse dumped first, but truth came out that she was being shady with a colleague from work even when she was with her guy.

Whilst I can understand Takeo's inferiority complex, it's a damn shame that he himself doesn't see that he and Ichinose are at different points in life, and he really shouldn't be making comparisons between them.

With the story about the dog, I would probably be worried about how this ends, considering Ichinose isn't exactly a manipulative, certified asshole.... buuuut, since I've already read past this in the manga... I'll shut up :P
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Sep 10, 2015 7:56 PM

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If Yamato was the type of person that cared about the types of things that Ichinose thinks she should, she wouldn't be dating Takeo in the first place.
Sep 11, 2015 12:49 AM

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if there's a NTR doujins of this gonna read it. Well played ichinose


Sep 11, 2015 12:59 AM

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This ending was very sad, poor Takeo. But I almost sure things will go better in the next episode. It's too bad to finish with a predictable episode. Whatever, I hope there will be a second season, I can't be bored of this anime.
Sep 11, 2015 1:45 AM

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actually didn't think we were gonna get this type of development mainly because i thought the series would be over this season so i guess it continues? doubt there would be much left for them to cover but i really do want one more season!.
Sep 11, 2015 1:55 AM

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Ugh felt like smacking my head against the wall with this episode. Thankfully only one more episode to go!
Sep 11, 2015 2:25 AM

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I did truly enjoy episode 23. One week left and then it's already over..

Well, maybe there will be a season 2.. who knows.. :)
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Sep 11, 2015 3:37 AM
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TragicRomance said:
Ichinose is a fun guy but arrogant and kinda rude as well. Not a bad guy though. If this story was about him and Yamato solely, I would have shipped them. As that's not the case, I am not going to. Yamato x Takeo's love for each other is too strong anyways (no, I don't ship them but I do admit their love for each other)


Yeah, I think if the story was just about Yamato and Ichinose a lot of people would be shipping them. He's arrogant and rude and doesn't really "know how to love" yet but he reminds me of the main guys in a lot of shoujo anime and drama stories (Hana Yori Dango-style).


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Earth_General said:
Everyone's talking about how they hate the chef but can you really blame him the whole ep. Yamato was leading him on even if wasn't intential.


Not sure why no one else sees this, but I have to agree with you here. Yamato had no reason to initially hide the fact that she had a boyfriend to anyone. She's a part-timer, and the youngest of the bunch. It's not like letting people know that she's taken from the off would affect their opinion of her much. Knowing her personality, she probably didn't do it on purpose, but it still doesn't take away from the fact that she did it.


I agree with you guys, I think she should have been more open and mentioned her boyfriend. I'm not sure what timing would have been good but with all those other girl coworkers I can't believe no one ever gossiped about romance...

Also I've noticed a lot of people in Japan don't mention they are dating or have boyfriends/girlfriends at work. Some don't even mention if they're married. It's not that they're trying to hide it, they just don't share unless asked. That's just my experience though, can't be sure it reflects the whole culture or this anime episode, haha.
Sep 11, 2015 5:08 AM

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That guy made lol. Who asks someone to brake up with their girlfriend.
Sep 11, 2015 11:35 AM

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I figured it was bound to happen. At least one of them would start dwelling on the idea that someone might be "better suited" for the other... I'm interested in how it'll play out, seeing as there's only one episode to go.
Sep 11, 2015 11:43 AM

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What the fuck. The only solution on this is to trust your lover. Can't he just see how much she loves him?


Sep 11, 2015 6:17 PM

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This Ichinose guy does have a point thou.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misattribution_of_arousal

It's good for Takeo's conscious if they get that out of the way.
And Takeo is only 16 right? very realistic :(
Sep 11, 2015 6:43 PM

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They just had to include one of the most cliche situations in a rom-com, eh?
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Sep 11, 2015 9:46 PM

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Ichinose really needs to get laid.



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Sep 11, 2015 9:49 PM

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Sep 12, 2015 2:26 AM

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Damn, as much as I always hope for ntr or some sort of cuck happenings this is one show where I actually dont want any
Sep 12, 2015 4:06 AM

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ThreePointer said:
I am so mad right now. F this guy. I love this show but F this guy.
BRB going to flip the nearest table I can find.


^same. That broke my heart...
Sep 12, 2015 6:09 AM

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I liked Ichinose. He is the first guy who isn't afraid of Takeo, and I liked how he was honest about wanting Yamato. And how he changed when he got inspired by her.

And it doesn't means I ship Ichinose x Yamato, it just means I liked him as a character. He is not a bad guy, he just need to have someone who makes him believe in himself.

Maybe he could be with Yukika Amami.


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Sep 12, 2015 9:49 AM

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I really liked Ichinose, he's funny as other FukuJun's characters xD
Wait, did you just say that Jojo is shit?
Sep 12, 2015 1:08 PM
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Iizbakaokay said:
In a nutshell, this had much more drama than I had anticipated. Well, if they are gonna end up the series ( 1 ep left) , probably the standard shoujp route "they-live-happily-ever-after" is going to be chosen. Well.. let us wait and watch .. the last episode will be delayed though :(
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The comedy part was nice this episode too :D
Postbox Takeo stalking Yamato cracked me up

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The scene that made me laugh out loud was Suna following Ichinose's line of sight :v

Those scenes made me laugh too. It felt very natural in terms of comedy and thoughts. This anime is amazing. I liked the short scenes at the beach too where Takeo was with Suna just contemplating how he should feel and what he should do. I can say that I did the same thing with my best friend when it came to women in the past.
Sep 12, 2015 2:36 PM
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I feel like in this anime there are absolutely no characters you can hate like even if they're the rival or something you still can't be mad at them.
Sep 12, 2015 3:30 PM

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kurokage9 said:
I feel like in this anime there are absolutely no characters you can hate like even if they're the rival or something you still can't be mad at them.

That's actually one of the things I really like about it. There are romances out there that deal with some really serious stuff (like Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou, Honey & Clover, etc..) but this one has a really lighthearted feel even during the more serious moments because you can easily see that the characters are NEVER going to break up, ever. They're going to grow to be geriatrics together, period. In that same vein, none of the side-characters have to be seriously mean or cruel (except "the groper", so Takeo could hit him)- it would only serve to bring the atmosphere of the show down closer to reality, which would defeat the purpose.

That's part of the appeal really- a lot of positive happy uplifting/romantic stuff without the heart-clenching pain of things going seriously wrong. It's a bit childish, immature, and most of all crazy-optimistic- there's very little seriously dramatic drama. Nothing at all wrong with that though, IMO.
Sep 12, 2015 5:48 PM
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No... why do they put this so late into the show?! Fight for her, Takeo!!!
Sep 12, 2015 5:49 PM
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Tokoya said:
FYI the finale episode is going to be delayed for a week
No... I wanted to see what happens to Takeo.
Sep 12, 2015 5:51 PM

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FINALLY A GOOD EPISODE

i was tired of the BS happy shit that kept going really starting dropping into 6/10 territory..this episode alone is 8/10 for being good and giving us some type of drama
Sep 12, 2015 8:12 PM

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Suna best girl.
Sep 13, 2015 6:06 AM

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Great episode! Takeo got some competition! Yamato was so cute working.
Sep 13, 2015 9:48 AM

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Get hype for the NTR!!!
Sep 13, 2015 12:52 PM

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Jerkhov said:
Get hype for the NTR!!!

Please, when Takeo puts the tip in t's over ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Sep 13, 2015 4:16 PM

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This show is highly unconventional. It started of with them dating right away early in the season, WHICH NEver HAPPENS. so thus it is totally expected for them to break up in the next episode.
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Sep 14, 2015 5:37 AM

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seriously?
right when it's going to end on the next ep?
Sep 14, 2015 8:29 PM

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Chaoyigon said:

last ep next week?!


The final episode will be delayed by a week, so no.
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Sep 15, 2015 3:10 AM

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kurokage9 said:
I feel like in this anime there are absolutely no characters you can hate like even if they're the rival or something you still can't be mad at them.
Agree! Even though Ichinose sure is delusional and arrogant, he is also entertaining! There are some that are annoying and weird, like Suna's stalker girl that I'm not too fond with and the afro-dude who's full of himself, but I don't "hate" them. It goes to show how lighthearted and easy-to-watch anime this truly is.

For sure it'll still be Yamato x Takeo, in spite of all the trials and tribulations they face.
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Sep 15, 2015 10:25 AM

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nooooooooooo pls dont rush.
this love thing had to appear at ep 18 or so.
why almost on the last episode? you kidding right?

anyway the story itself is pretty interesting with the patissier and stuff
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Sep 15, 2015 12:37 PM

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Finally, drama.
Sep 15, 2015 3:33 PM

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Earth_General said:
Everyone's talking about how they hate the chef but can you really blame him the whole ep. Yamato was leading him on even if wasn't intential.


Not sure why no one else sees this, but I have to agree with you here. Yamato had no reason to initially hide the fact that she had a boyfriend to anyone. She's a part-timer, and the youngest of the bunch. It's not like letting people know that she's taken from the off would affect their opinion of her much. Knowing her personality, she probably didn't do it on purpose, but it still doesn't take away from the fact that she did it.


I agree with you guys, I think she should have been more open and mentioned her boyfriend. I'm not sure what timing would have been good but with all those other girl coworkers I can't believe no one ever gossiped about romance...

Also I've noticed a lot of people in Japan don't mention they are dating or have boyfriends/girlfriends at work. Some don't even mention if they're married. It's not that they're trying to hide it, they just don't share unless asked. That's just my experience though, can't be sure it reflects the whole culture or this anime episode, haha.[/quote]

Hmm, interesting bit, the one about Japanese people not mentioning potential SOs. We're talking about people who put great value on their privacy.

From my point of view, although I agree with all of you, I don't think anyone *has* to mention gf/bf/whatevs if they don't want to. It's not a job requirement. I don't think Yamato was leading Ichinose as much as she was in love with his baking skills. People who are passionate about something, in this case bakery, are often more interested in the object, i.e. cakes, rather than the creator. From my personal experience, I admire people in my field but I love love loooove their work - that's a big difference. I think there is sufficient distance between Ichinose and Yamato as between a master and a pupil, and this distance can not be compensated by love.

Speaking of Ichinose, I love it when minor characters spark controversy and discussion. I like his character> he's infatuated with himself, on one hand. His ego is bigger than he can handle. Therefore the "break up with her!" - he wants to claim what he likes but does not belong to him. His ego is also the source of his delusion> he thinks Yamato likes him, but what really impressed her are his skills and creativity. Of course, when someone likes you, you want them to like you as a whole. And he loves having an admirer, hence the peeking at Yamato through the kitchen door.
I think what it boils down to is admiration =/= love, but Ichinose doesn't make this distinction, it'd hurt his ego sooo bad.

I can understand Takeo feeling different, but feeling inferior is a whole different story. It's his first relationship so he's still emotionally immature. Some things are hard to process, especially when they're thrown in your face and the person saying them has great self-confidence. I'd feel weird if someone came to me in the street and told me to break up with someone, what are the odds? Ichinose played his card well by taking Takeo by surprise.

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This Ichinose guy does have a point thou.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misattribution_of_arousal


Yep.
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Sep 15, 2015 8:09 PM
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I actually like the new guy in this episode! He's like a weird, fabulous mix of Levi from Shingeki and Tamaki from Ouran Host club o-o

I can't believe the anime is over after one more episode though ): I hope the ending is happy but not super generic like I'm assuming it'll be xD

*Suna the brain gives speech trying to knock sense into Takeo*
Takeo: "Yamato, are you sure you don't want to be with that guy you just met cause you know, he's pretty cool."
Yamato: "But I love you D: I want to be with you forever!" *sparkly eyes*
Takeo: "SUKI DAAAAAAAAAAAA"
*Suna standing in the background*
Sep 15, 2015 9:14 PM
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This episode was different from most of the preceding material. The finale should be pretty touching and dramatic.

Ost particularly nice in this episode.

I wouldn't mind seeing another season of this...
Sep 16, 2015 7:24 AM
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Tennouji_ said:
What the fuck. The only solution on this is to trust your lover. Can't he just see how much she loves him?


This. He needs to trust her, she's done nothing to make him think she would be anything but totally loyal to him. A little jealousy is fine but he's taking it a little too hard :( Then again it's his first girlfriend and he's in high school so I feel like we can't blame him too much.
Sep 16, 2015 9:37 AM

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Welp, the finale will air next week.
Sep 16, 2015 10:03 AM

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Having a cliche as the finale isn't very epic, but we did get something important out of it: Takeo's insecurities about himself. There had to be more to him and there it is. This story definitely should have been a little earlier in the series though :v

Ai's words about Takeo "putting other people's feeling before his own" describes my boyfriend too well -_- Do your job Yamato and slap some sense into him! Hopefully this series will prove me wrong and Takeo won't say something stupid.
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Why didn't the new episode air this week?
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Another person trying to get between them? Seriously? :/
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