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I wish, but it's very unlikely.
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I wouldn't mind *_*

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I think people are overthinking it for those of you who have watched a lot of anime I think you know that blushing and getting embarresed between girls and between guys are a very common thing and to take that as a yuri/yaoi subtext is just like waiting to be disapointed. I think the best way to describe kumiko and reinas relationship would be akward friends who tend to embarrass each other unknowingly and I think the way to stop this arguement is to simply check the genres as there is no yuri or shoujo ai tag so there will not be any.
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shirozawa-shiro said:
I think people are overthinking it for those of you who have watched a lot of anime I think you know that blushing and getting embarresed between girls and between guys are a very common thing and to take that as a yuri/yaoi subtext is just like waiting to be disapointed. I think the best way to describe kumiko and reinas relationship would be akward friends who tend to embarrass each other unknowingly and I think the way to stop this arguement is to simply check the genres as there is no yuri or shoujo ai tag so there will not be any.


...and some still thinks that tags can change.... -__- LOL
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If not, do you think they're just baiting yuri shippers?


do u even need 2 ask that? Kyoani is like the crown prince of queerbaiting. Subtle yuri/yaoi sells. Think K-On, think Free. The studio literally survives on money they get from desperate queers, fujoshi, and dirty neckbeards masturbating to small squishy looking girls; moe shit with queer undertones is the way to the big bucks man.


I'm not queer (it's still a slur to some, you shouldn't refer to everyone in the LGBT+ spectrum as queer) but this is painfully true. I'm a desperate lesbian clinging onto any subtext I can, since actual lesbian relationships are so few and far between.

It sucks begging for scraps when straight people have huge luxurious buffets to pick and choose from. :/ But to answer OP's question, no, this is not a yuri. Kyoani is goddamn awful at gaybaiting, but puts every would-be heterosexual couple in canon relationships.
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Just leave this here, don't know how reliable it is:

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ramenshojo said:
Just leave this here, don't know how reliable it is:



Does this mean Taki-sensei will accept Kousaka's feelings? I knew she was interested in him and I was kind of sure she'll confess to him but not sure how he'll respond. I never thought this series will have any shoujo-ai pairings anyway.
I'm hoping for a Shuuichi/Kumiko ending.
May 24, 2015 9:26 PM

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I like that any romance is a secondary element to the story, and doesn't look like it's going to go anywhere (especially in the anime version) or take over the plot. Considering that, making the ED around the red string of fate image might have been troll-y, but it's no big deal.

ramenshojo said:
Just leave this here, don't know how reliable it is:

I wouldn't take whoever said this for their word, considering what some people above who report having read portions of the novels have said. Remember that it's a regular novel, not a light novel, so you need to actually be proficient in Japanese to read it.
May 25, 2015 3:49 AM

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yuri bait :(
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May 25, 2015 7:57 AM

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I wish, but it's very unlikely.
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May 26, 2015 10:53 AM
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You sure that this isn't one? Look at today's episode OMFG
May 26, 2015 11:12 AM

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destructo22 said:
Nope. Not at all. I'm not saying names, but there are people that are blowing this out of proportion.
lol watch episode 8
May 26, 2015 2:05 PM

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As the yuri intensifies, the plot thickens.

If you know what I mean.

But you know what, it's fine really. Even if KyoAni doesn't go full blown shoujo ai yuri on us, the doujinshi artists will probably have us covered.
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Are you people kidding? This is totally Shoujo Ai. Maybe it wasn't very clear when this topic was created, but if you have seen Episode 8 and still do not see Shoujo Ai, then you have to be blind.
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Nintendofan204 said:
Are you people kidding? This is totally Shoujo Ai. Maybe it wasn't very clear when this topic was created, but if you have seen Episode 8 and still do not see Shoujo Ai, then you have to be blind.


This is Kyoani we're talking.

Besides, I ask my friends in FB regarding "touching each others lips" makes you lesbian. They all says "No!". It's pretty normal though not always. They experience once or often. But no malice.
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Nintendofan204 said:
Are you people kidding? This is totally Shoujo Ai. Maybe it wasn't very clear when this topic was created, but if you have seen Episode 8 and still do not see Shoujo Ai, then you have to be blind.


Nah. If you call this yuri outright, many girls would be yuri.
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Well until now it was really just yuri-fans daydreaming, but this episode played the thing quite a bit. Still thinking it's only a tease even more since so little episodes remain for all the plot (audition/contest).

It looks a bit like MC girl & his childhood friend will still end together, by Kousaka acts & talks. Especially since the novels have 0 of all these yuri things that we get to see.
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Imeon said:
Nintendofan204 said:
Are you people kidding? This is totally Shoujo Ai. Maybe it wasn't very clear when this topic was created, but if you have seen Episode 8 and still do not see Shoujo Ai, then you have to be blind.


This is Kyoani we're talking.

Besides, I ask my friends in FB regarding "touching each others lips" makes you lesbian. They all says "No!". It's pretty normal though not always. They experience once or often. But no malice.
doesnt matter

shoujo ai elements are present to make it such

even if it turns out completly straight in the end all those yuri subtexts make it shoujo ai since the very start

for god sakes the ending gave away the yuri
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the sad thing is that i doubt kyoani would ever go down the shoujo ai route, and the only hints of shoujo ai we'll have are undertones.
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I hope not. Kumiko and Reina's relationship is more better in platonic rather than romantic and the romance in this series is more a sub-plot. I would not mind it but my future ship will sunk so yeah. And it doesn't have to be romantic after all, a friendship can be stronger and deeper than romantic love sometimes. It could be applied to them.
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Moodie said:
doesnt matter


Denial to the very end.
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May 26, 2015 7:31 PM

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MihoWittmann said:
I like that any romance is a secondary element to the story, and doesn't look like it's going to go anywhere (especially in the anime version) or take over the plot. Considering that, making the ED around the red string of fate image might have been troll-y, but it's no big deal.

ramenshojo said:
Just leave this here, don't know how reliable it is:

I wouldn't take whoever said this for their word, considering what some people above who report having read portions of the novels have said. Remember that it's a regular novel, not a light novel, so you need to actually be proficient in Japanese to read it.

EXACTLY! From what friends of mine who are learning Japanese have told me, one of the hardest parts of the language is that the way you say things like "He ate", "She ate", "I ate", and "They ate" are all, essentially, identical. You have to take the surrounding context, and, in spoken word, sometimes nonverbal cues, into account to determine the actual subject of the statement. I know I have read many, many translations where a person who is new to the language translated something as someone saying something like "I like her" when a more experienced translator chimed in and corrected it to "She likes me". It is possible to get things entirely wrong just by missing the context.

(For all we know the statements that
could be more like
Not that I expect that to be the case, but


That said, could there be a reason that KyoAni is so obviously enhancing the Yuri aspects of the early story, at least according to people who have read parts of the first book? Perhaps it is because the yuri happens later in the story and they are foreshadowing it because they don't want it to seem to have come out of nowhere? Who knows. I think it is clear that the story, as told by KyoAni, IS shoujo ai at the very least. There is no denying that after episode 8. It doesn't matter if they end up together or not, the story content is still there.
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zensunni said:
MihoWittmann said:
I like that any romance is a secondary element to the story, and doesn't look like it's going to go anywhere (especially in the anime version) or take over the plot. Considering that, making the ED around the red string of fate image might have been troll-y, but it's no big deal.


I wouldn't take whoever said this for their word, considering what some people above who report having read portions of the novels have said. Remember that it's a regular novel, not a light novel, so you need to actually be proficient in Japanese to read it.

EXACTLY! From what friends of mine who are learning Japanese have told me, one of the hardest parts of the language is that the way you say things like "He ate", "She ate", "I ate", and "They ate" are all, essentially, identical. You have to take the surrounding context, and, in spoken word, sometimes nonverbal cues, into account to determine the actual subject of the statement. I know I have read many, many translations where a person who is new to the language translated something as someone saying something like "I like her" when a more experienced translator chimed in and corrected it to "She likes me". It is possible to get things entirely wrong just by missing the context.

(For all we know the statements that
could be more like
Not that I expect that to be the case, but


That said, could there be a reason that KyoAni is so obviously enhancing the Yuri aspects of the early story, at least according to people who have read parts of the first book? Perhaps it is because the yuri happens later in the story and they are foreshadowing it because they don't want it to seem to have come out of nowhere? Who knows. I think it is clear that the story, as told by KyoAni, IS shoujo ai at the very least. There is no denying that after episode 8. It doesn't matter if they end up together or not, the story content is still there.


Just hear the readers who read the book.
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I hope not. Kumiko and Reina's relationship is more better in platonic rather than romantic and the romance in this series is more a sub-plot. I would not mind it but my future ship will sunk so yeah. And it doesn't have to be romantic after all, a friendship can be stronger and deeper than romantic love sometimes. It could be applied to them.

Actually, if their relationship seems to blur the line between friendship and romance, it might be more realistic than many standard romance plots. This quote from Rose Bridges, who, among other things, is a reviewer for the daily streaming reviews at ANN and also a bisexual woman, is about the way that the depictions of lesbian relationships in Yuri Kuma Arashi rang true for her, partly because of the way the story blurred that line...
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Another thing is the way that it blurs the line between friendship and romance. I’ve seen a lot of criticism for that but I think it’s absolutely intentional and ties in with the show’s themes, and it’s also something particular to the queer female experience (as in, it’s less true for gay and bisexual men, since the line between “platonic” and “romantic” affection with guys more strictly enforced). Even here, where we don’t have the weird Class S baggage per se that Japanese culture has about lesbians, female friendships can be very affectionate and it’s often hard to know if your interest in another girl crosses that line–and easily to deny it if it does. I had an inkling even at 13 that how I felt about certain other girls–being unable to stop looking at them in class, fantasizing about being close to them, feeling this powerful yearning to be around them all the time–was not that different from my crushes on boys. But because I didn’t want to believe it, it was easy to pretend it was just a “strong friendship” feeling. Which I think Yurikuma captures well with the way that all these girls who are clearly in love with each other keep referring to their girlfriends as “my special friend” or “best friend” or whatever.

So, at least from the perspective of one person with experience, a story where a couple seems to have a very close friendship and both seem to have "more than friend" feelings for each other, yet they don't cross the line to openly dating, possibly even after some "more than friend" type of activity has occurred, wouldn't necessarily be unrealistic...

But that is probably totally off topic, eh? LOL
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Just hear the readers who read the book.

That's the problem. The majority of the quotes I have seen have come from people saying things like, "I've read most of the first book" or "I'm in the middle of the 2nd book", or "I got the third book and read the ending and the epilogue".

I have yet to see any quotes from people that have actually read past part of book 2. The "I read the epilogue" one is particularly troublesome, since that is
comes from as well as
If you haven't read the rest of the book, how can you make statements about what it says in the epilogue?
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I doubt it'll be anything canon or explicitly shown on the show since that doesn't seem to be the center conflict of the series plot itself, but it'll be probably hinted at or shown subtly, so at least we can ship KumikoxReina in peace, lol. I guess I might actually prefer it that way after the whole *spoiler* LoK disaster final and the underdeveloped way it was handled.

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Honestly, I hope it does end up going differently than the novel and introducing them as a gay pairing.

I can't say I've ever seen a "shoujou ai" pairing done this well. Heck, calling it Shoujo Ai seems to reduce the importance of all of their scenes as most of episode 8 didn't even look like "Shoujou Ai"; it was far more like a serious, mature, lesbian love story.

It was all extremely respectfully done, mature, and on-par or better than many romantic scenes in actual KyoAni straight pairings.

I will seriously be disappointed if it turns out all of this goes nowhere and KyoAni forces those horrible relationships on these lovely characters. (Taki x Reina and Kumiko x Shuichi)

I've never been so excited to see such a natural budding romance in an anime, let alone a non-comedic relief Yuri pairing like this.

Please KyoAni... Let this all work out. Shuichi is a great guy n' all, but I really don't want Kumiko to start liking him out of nowhere. She has no interest in him and is completely infatuated with Reina.
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I think you are basing you "boyfriend is actually a girl" in some yuri manga I read long ago where females call their girlfriends as boyfriends.... >_>

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Please KyoAni... Let this all work out. Shuichi is a great guy n' all, but I really don't want Kumiko to start liking him out of nowhere. She has no interest in him and is completely infatuated with Reina.


Unless they make an anime original ending, as far as I heard.

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Imeon said:
zensunni said:




I think you are basing you "boyfriend is actually a girl" in some yuri manga I read long ago where females call their girlfriends as boyfriends.... >_>

BRSxIgnition said:

Please KyoAni... Let this all work out. Shuichi is a great guy n' all, but I really don't want Kumiko to start liking him out of nowhere. She has no interest in him and is completely infatuated with Reina.


Unless they make an anime original ending, as far as I heard.



The content in one of your spoiler tags doesn't even follow simple English grammar. Are you sure it was properly translated?

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Imeon said:
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doesnt matter


Denial to the very end.
im not going to argue with someone with a hachiman avy cuz i can already tell ur going to embody his personality and come at me with some dumb shit

if u cant tell this is shoujo ai then ur either blind or other things i rather not say for the sake of not getting banned
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Moodie said:
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Denial to the very end.
im not going to argue with someone with a hachiman avy cuz i can already tell ur going to embody his personality and come at me with some dumb shit

if u cant tell this is shoujo ai then ur either blind or other things i rather not say for the sake of not getting banned


I doing a poll to hear everyone's opinion and not just one sided ones, who likes to claim "official statements.'

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I think you are basing you "boyfriend is actually a girl" in some yuri manga I read long ago where females call their girlfriends as boyfriends.... >_>



Unless they make an anime original ending, as far as I heard.



The content in one of your spoiler tags doesn't even follow simple English grammar. Are you sure it was properly translated?
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Denial to the very end.
im not going to argue with someone with a hachiman avy cuz i can already tell ur going to embody his personality and come at me with some dumb shit

if u cant tell this is shoujo ai then ur either blind or other things i rather not say for the sake of not getting banned


What does someone's avatar have to do with their comments? You for example, sound nothing like Ononoki.
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shanimebib said:
Moodie said:
im not going to argue with someone with a hachiman avy cuz i can already tell ur going to embody his personality and come at me with some dumb shit

if u cant tell this is shoujo ai then ur either blind or other things i rather not say for the sake of not getting banned


What does someone's avatar have to do with their comments? You for example, sound nothing like Ononoki.
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^ I'm sure you are in love with Hiki and you're confused. ^_<
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Imeon said:
zensunni said:




I think you are basing you "boyfriend is actually a girl" in some yuri manga I read long ago where females call their girlfriends as boyfriends.... >_>

BRSxIgnition said:

Please KyoAni... Let this all work out. Shuichi is a great guy n' all, but I really don't want Kumiko to start liking him out of nowhere. She has no interest in him and is completely infatuated with Reina.


Unless they make an anime original ending, as far as I heard.


About your first spoiler block: It is not uncommon for people who are keeping their relationship secret to refer to their significant other by the socially acceptable gender term and I have seen it in many, many manga.

About your last spoiler block...

EDIT: I just thought I would share this site that I found with an excerpt from the novel.. For those that are saying that there is no yuri in the novels, I suggest that they are not reading it right... Here is a quote from the translation, in spoilers for those who don't want to be...

The site said that it was from the fourth chapter of the first novel...
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zensunni said:
Imeon said:




I think you are basing you "boyfriend is actually a girl" in some yuri manga I read long ago where females call their girlfriends as boyfriends.... >_>



Unless they make an anime original ending, as far as I heard.


About your first spoiler block: It is not uncommon for people who are keeping their relationship secret to refer to their significant other by the socially acceptable gender term and I have seen it in many, many manga.

About your last spoiler block...

EDIT: I just thought I would share this site that I found with an excerpt from the novel.. For those that are saying that there is no yuri in the novels, I suggest that they are not reading it right... Here is a quote from the translation, in spoilers for those who don't want to be...

The site said that it was from the fourth chapter of the first novel...


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LOL



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LOL





I was about to stop here and wait for next week but I just had to reply for the question.


I'll comment again for episode 9 coz, my life is endanger... hahahah!!!!
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Fuck me I should have picked this after the show ended. I'm very prone to spoilers.

So from what I gathered there's a shit ton of Yuri moments in the novel so people who are bitching and whining about Kyoani baiting people can shut the fuck up since it's in the original source, but in the end though Kumiko ends up with Shuichi so there's that.
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Fuck me I should have picked this after the show ended. I'm very prone to spoilers.





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as a person who have watched a lot of anime and read a lot of books and manga I have seen a lot of what you people would call yuri subtext and I cant deny that people who would yuri ship would definetly ship reina and kumiko especially after episode 8 but from what ive seen up untill now I am still not convinced that there is anything romantic between reina and kumiko I think its a more perspective oriented thing were some people would see their interaction as romantic and others dont and I think thats exacly what kyoani is aiming at it makes it more interesting for a bigger audience. But the way I see it is that reina and kumiko are people who connect at a deep level people who really understand each other and they dont need to be romanticly atracted to each other for that to happen for me thats how a real good friend is like someone who really understand you and I think that was really the point in the whole mountain part of episode 8. Also considering reinas weird and charming personality it should honestly be expected for her to act in a suggestive way I mean even kumiko called her twisted ( in a good way ).

I think its not something as simple as love I think the characters in this story is deeper than what they really show especially reina shes the type of person who is different the type of person that I would call mentally superior they have a different way of looking at the world a lot of what we would consider normal or abnormal is meaningless to them they have this charming and confident air around them that sucks you in and make it hard to oppose them. they dont try to be normal they try to be special and are usually pretty hardworking ang great people. people tend to either completely idolize them or entirely hate them. I would say kumiko is a bit like that to but shes more normal and easily swayed the type of person who would try to blend in but still tend to say whats on her mind even if she dont mean to.

So considering reinas personality and the connection she and kumiko have I think that their interaction are pretty normal. I think that all the blushing and what you people would call yuri subtext is just reina triyng to talk and befriend kumiko but did not know how or did not get the right opportunity so akward moment happened and they blushes and at the mountain in episode 8 she finaly got the chance to befriend kumiko and showed her what kind of person she is so considering reinas personality thats just how reina interacts with a person who she find interesting and kumiko is one such person a person who can understand her and kumiko did understand and had that nearly magical time.

I understand that some people would see it as suggestive but I personally think that they are just very good friends that have a deep conection and because of their quirky personalities they embarrass each other sometimes. and like i have said before the easiest way to see that this anime does not have yuri or shoujo ai is to simply look at the genres.
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gnodab said:
Fuck me I should have picked this after the show ended. I'm very prone to spoilers.


First things first, put that in spoilers! Not everyone wants open discussion of future aspects of the story. Second, the novels are ongoing. They aren't done yet. So...


It is also important to remember that this series of novels are NOT light novels or manga, but mainstream young adult fiction. It is likely that the standard tropes we are used to will not hold for this author, since he is not necessarily a genre writer.

(I assume the author is a he... I saw the name and some comments he made on the official web-site, badly translated by Google, and it had a masculine feel to it... I could be wrong though...)

In any event, I am loving the series! I would love to read the original novels, but I get the strange feeling that I would be disappointed because the music would have to all be in my head. (Granted, I thoroughly enjoyed Your Lie In April in manga form without the music, though I did occasionally Google up a performance of the pieces they were performing to spice it up, as I also did with Sayonara Piano Sonata.) Somehow I expect that it would be more difficult to do that with concert band music than with classical piano and violin solos or rock... (I still wish someone would do Sayonara Piano Sonata, just so I could hear the electric guitar/electric bass "duel" near the end of the first novel...)

That and the background art is so sublime that I would miss it when reading a plain black-and-white novel...
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zensunni said:


(I assume the author is a he... I saw the name and some comments he made on the official web-site, badly translated by Google, and it had a masculine feel to it... I could be wrong though...)


Nope, is a she http://myanimelist.net/people/34941/Takeda_Ayano
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zensunni said:

First things first, put that in spoilers! Not everyone wants open discussion of future aspects of the story. Second, the novels are ongoing. They aren't done yet. So...


I don't know why you're surprised since I'm merely echoing what's already been said in this thread. Also the series ended with vol 3 apparently, and vol 4 is a collection of short-stories. Of course this is second-hand information and I could be wrong.
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zensunni said:


(I assume the author is a he... I saw the name and some comments he made on the official web-site, badly translated by Google, and it had a masculine feel to it... I could be wrong though...)


Nope, is a she http://myanimelist.net/people/34941/Takeda_Ayano

Thanks! Good to know. (Not sure that I was seeing the author's name now. that doesn't ring a bell...)
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