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May 9, 2015 1:01 PM

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Forgetfulness said:
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Already did months ago in question thread

> Contract lost
> Seals go back to the Grail
> Contract formed
> Seals given up to 3 from what is in the grail.
So
^ F/Z spoiler


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I'm putting this on hold and waiting for the BDs. The transition at the 10-minute mark was comically bad, it's like they just cut 2 minutes at random from the episode.
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Love how reddit has like 1-2 people complaining but here...well do I need to say more

Yeah, no one complains but the people here.


Even youtube is peaceful compared to this place. Most of the comments there are actually praise, whereas most of the comments here are straight on VN vs anime despite already having an thread for it.
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mira-nyan said:
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I want be so mad because of the ground and the scene were small in the VN as wel.I dont know how they looked SOOOO rushed at some people.


Whether or not they skipped scenes, it felt empty and pointless.
For all we know, it might be because of the BGM.

For some.
May 9, 2015 1:02 PM

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Othi-tan said:
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highlight of the ep. was RIN x SABER forging the new contract :3

I respectfully disagree.Rin's dream and talking to Archer was the best part.


dat was good too :|
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Lollo36 said:
I'm putting this on hold and waiting for the BDs. The transition at the 10-minute mark was comically bad, it's like they just cut 2 minutes at random from the episode.


It was in the Visual Novel as well, so it wasn't really a cut
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Mathias2001 said:
Love how reddit has like 1-2 people complaining but here...well do I need to say more


And I can quote multiple people from other sources. It's not 1-2 people lol.
May 9, 2015 1:03 PM
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nocorras said:
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Love how reddit has like 1-2 people complaining but here...well do I need to say more


And I can quote multiple people from other sources. It's not 1-2 people lol.


I mean't this episode thread, I mean like only this episode in reddit.
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Mathias2001 said:
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And I can quote multiple people from other sources. It's not 1-2 people lol.


I mean't this episode thread, I mean like only this episode in reddit.


And I've seen more than 1-2 have issues.

>complaining about opinions
May 9, 2015 1:04 PM

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Glancing over the comments, I think I may be the only/one of the few that liked Ufotable's UBW (I've never gave a damn about things being CGI animated or not) and I see a lot of butthurt/saltiness for some pointless reasons (then again, all threads are the same).

First things first though, the episode is rushed. They basically put, like, about 45-50+ minutes worth of content here, so I think they should have made it longer. Saber's contract scene was fine as it was, unless you wanna see minutes of how the power overflows from her body, which I think is not necessary since you saw the overwhelming advantage she had with Archer in just a single swing (this fight should have been longer).

Now unto UBW. Like I said before, I don't have a problem with it. I mean, sure, I don't really dig the ground textures that much, but otherwise it looks gorgeous to me (the background with the clouds and gears is wondrous). I see people complaining about Shirou's lack of use of his own weaponry, but really, there is no evidence of his use in the VN, since the RM ends abruptly and he himself says there is no way that he can copy that attack. Like Saber vs Archer, this should have been (a bit) longer, at least so it doesn't look like they skipped frames like they did here, showing how the RM breaks down.

I have no complains about the flashbacks or Shinji's scene, he's still as pathetic as ever. Based on the information we have, however, I don't really know what they have in mind for the next episode if Archer vs Shirou is apparently gonna be chapter 19 & 20 (more flashback and Lancer's part I guess?). Then again, I think giving the most time to that part is both a pleasant surprise and understandable, since is the most important one of UBW.

I'm more excited about 19 & 20 since I don't really care about Lancer that much, but I think next chapter could be great too (more so if you're a E rank/Mad dog fan).
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mira-nyan said:
Othi-tan said:
I want be so mad because of the ground and the scene were small in the VN as wel.I dont know how they looked SOOOO rushed at some people.


Whether or not they skipped scenes, it felt empty and pointless.
For all we know, it might be because of the BGM.


Are you implying it was "full" and "full of points" in the VN, or that the BGM in the VN in that particular scene was much better? Or are you saying that it was rather boring in both? I can actually symphatize if you ment the latter.
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idk i guess I actually liked the episode but im not a vn reader. I'm planning on reading it once im done with UBW 2015 and maybe the heaven's feel movie(s)? I also thought the CGI was decent. Still superior to other series.
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idk i guess I actually liked the episode but im not a vn reader. I'm planning on reading it once im done with UBW 2015 and maybe the heaven's feel movie(s)? I also thought the CGI was decent. Still superior to other series.


Definitely read fate and UBW before HF movies or you will be lost as all hell.
May 9, 2015 1:06 PM

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"How to"-guide to love the ufotable CGI:

1. Watch the First season of Kingdom
2. Rewatch ufo's F/sn UBW

done.
May 9, 2015 1:06 PM
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Mathias2001 said:
nocorras said:


And I can quote multiple people from other sources. It's not 1-2 people lol.


I mean't this episode thread, I mean like only this episode in reddit.


No one is hating on this episode there, 1-4 people are complaining about the pacing and the others are just hating on Shinji, glorying Rin x Saber, talking about UBW and other stuff. Pretty peaceful there .
May 9, 2015 1:07 PM

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Forgetfulness said:
On a side note, can someone explain to me why Rin got more Command Seals? :/


she earned them, she was a good girl.
May 9, 2015 1:08 PM

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Mathias2001 said:
Mathias2001 said:


I mean't this episode thread, I mean like only this episode in reddit.


No one is hating on this episode there, 1-4 people are complaining about the pacing and the others are just hating on Shinji, glorying Rin x Saber, talking about UBW and other stuff. Pretty peaceful there .


Then post there and save us the rants about others opinions.
May 9, 2015 1:08 PM

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I don't understand the hate towards this season. The episode was great.
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Grey-Zone said:
How to guide to love the ufotable CGI:

1. Watch the First season of "Kingdom"
2. Rewatch ufo's F/sn UBW

done.


Kingdom is great but the CGI scared me to death, it looked like a video game to me and in a bad way. Not only were the minor soldiers were pretty bad but the characters(Important ones) were pretty scary to me. I eventually got used to it but still.
May 9, 2015 1:09 PM
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I felt bad for Rin since she got kidnapped by Archer.
May 9, 2015 1:11 PM

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Mathias2001 said:

No one is hating on this episode there, 1-4 people are complaining about the pacing and the others are just hating on Shinji, glorying Rin x Saber, talking about UBW and other stuff. Pretty peaceful there .

There are plenty of people who complain on other sites, just because you don't want to see it doesn't mean it's not there. And in any case, that has nothing to do with anything.
May 9, 2015 1:12 PM
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nocorras said:
Mathias2001 said:


No one is hating on this episode there, 1-4 people are complaining about the pacing and the others are just hating on Shinji, glorying Rin x Saber, talking about UBW and other stuff. Pretty peaceful there .


Then post there and save us the rants about others opinions.


Bruh, just bruh. I have the right to share my opinion here about the people here if I want to like you have the right to share your opinions about other opinions.


And the forum structure is kinda messy there, thank you
May 9, 2015 1:13 PM

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Saber is Rin's servent?

Shit got real

Hi there
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Mathias2001 said:
Lollo36 said:
I'm putting this on hold and waiting for the BDs. The transition at the 10-minute mark was comically bad, it's like they just cut 2 minutes at random from the episode.


It was in the Visual Novel as well, so it wasn't really a cut

The anime isn't from Shirou's POV, that cut didn't make any sense.
May 9, 2015 1:13 PM

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Came in here expecting discussion about the episode, just found fanboys complaining. As someone who has not seen the origina FSN this episode was perfectly fine.
May 9, 2015 1:14 PM

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Mathias2001 said:
nocorras said:


Then post there and save us the rants about others opinions.


Bruh, just bruh. I have the right to share my opinion here about the people here if I want to like you have the right to share your opinions about other opinions.


And the forum structure is kinda messy there, thank you


And the mods specifically said in the other episode thread to STOP and yet you still rant about a user. Anyway I'm done have fun complaining.
May 9, 2015 1:14 PM

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Lollo36 said:
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It was in the Visual Novel as well, so it wasn't really a cut

The anime isn't from Shirou's POV, that cut didn't make any sense.


Just because most of pov was removed does not mean it is not from his pov.

FSN is Shirou's story about Shirou through Shirou's eyes. Even if you remove most of that, the story is still that way.
May 9, 2015 1:15 PM

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Can someone explain "FAKER" part to me :D? I think I understand but i'm not quite sure.
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Insertanamehere said:
Mathias2001 said:

No one is hating on this episode there, 1-4 people are complaining about the pacing and the others are just hating on Shinji, glorying Rin x Saber, talking about UBW and other stuff. Pretty peaceful there .

There are plenty of people who complain on other sites, just because you don't want to see it doesn't mean it's not there. And in any case, that has nothing to do with anything.


I mean't in reddit, not on other sites. I mean't in this episode. Did I say youtube has no hate, I said that there are hate but it doesn't take half or three quarters of the dicussion there. I solely spoke about this episode in reddit and I just pointed it out, it seemed odd that the different communities despite being in the same fandom feel so different from each other. But whatever.
May 9, 2015 1:17 PM

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The_Deceiver said:
Can someone explain "FAKER" part to me :D? I think I understand but i'm not quite sure.


Archer has the copies of all the weapons that he has encountered.Gilgamesh has te original ones of those.Hence he calls him "Faker"
May 9, 2015 1:17 PM
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I had so much hope for this episode...

Truth be told, I have already given up on this season one or two episodes ago. Seriously, how rushed is this?

Saber's new contract was VERY underwhelming. Oh, she has a little mist around her, now I understand how overpowered she is. Even the UBW movie did far better than this. And the music really didn't fit, they should have put something more epic.

They even made Archer calm when he is supposed to be rather nervous since a lightning bruiser is curbstomping him. Again, the UBW movie was more faithful.

UBW was horrible. The CG hurt my eyes, and I generally didn't like how it was 'clear' when an apt way to describe it is full of dust to represent Archer's soul.

Yay, Shirou's badass moment where he blocks a rain of 19 swords became... I don't know. Then he sort of wakes up and Rin is already kidnapped.

This show should be renamed 'Unlimited Rin Works'. And Miura even made her a sobbing wreck, like in all other moments such as when she scolded Shirou about his ideals, instead of angry. Because Rin didn't cry, she was furious.

This episode would have been better if it had been the continuation of Lancer vs Archer and Shirou/Rin vs Kuzuki/Caster. They squeezed it all in one episode when it would have been better dividing it in one episode and half.

Rin's talk with Archer was NOWHERE as long as it was here in the anime. Wryyyyyyyyy!!

Disappointed. Very disappointed. I am not even the type to complain about episodes, but this and the last one bothered me so much I had to rant about it.

8 episodes remain. I absolutely have NO idea how they are going to fill them. Next episode is probably focused on Lancer, then the next one will be Answer, and they better do that right.

I have the feeling that some original content will be put in.
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The_Deceiver said:
Can someone explain "FAKER" part to me :D? I think I understand but i'm not quite sure.


Common place Terminology used to describe a projection magic user because they "fake" an imitations of real life objects/weapons/etc.
May 9, 2015 1:18 PM

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The_Deceiver said:
Can someone explain "FAKER" part to me :D? I think I understand but i'm not quite sure.

Basically the way I saw it is that Gil has every original Noble Phantasm while Archer creates near perfect replicas. Hence Faker.
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May 9, 2015 1:19 PM
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nocorras said:
Mathias2001 said:


Bruh, just bruh. I have the right to share my opinion here about the people here if I want to like you have the right to share your opinions about other opinions.


And the forum structure is kinda messy there, thank you


And the mods specifically said in the other episode thread to STOP and yet you still rant about a user. Anyway I'm done have fun complaining.


Well, I haven't been that much on the other episodes thread so how could I have read those comments if I wasn't there.
May 9, 2015 1:19 PM

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eXtacy67 said:
Came in here expecting discussion about the episode, just found fanboys complaining. As someone who has not seen the origina FSN this episode was perfectly fine.


Indeed, animation like always was good and the cliffhanger oh boy i can't wait for the next episode.
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The_Deceiver said:
Can someone explain "FAKER" part to me :D? I think I understand but i'm not quite sure.


Archer's ability is to make copies of weapons he sees. Therefore, he himself is devoid of any kind of value to Gilgamesh, who has every single REAL Noble Phantasm, and also feels insulted because of his expertise to replicate his posesions, which is why he calls him a "Faker".
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Is this a directing issue or something? The scenes just lack impact. No immersion, nothing. The episode was honestly only good by virtue of the events that occurred.
May 9, 2015 1:23 PM
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Shirou struggled quite a bit, but it was still great how he went against Archer. That was pretty badass!

Short battle between Saber and Archer was awesome too! Saber forming contact with Rin was a little surprising.

Rin's monologue regarding Archer was nicely done as well. Dem tears though..

Shinji is just as annoying as ever! >.< Gilgamesh calling Archer "Faker" was hilarious!

Good episode. Loved how Lancer offered to tag along with Shirou once again to save Rin. This guy is the best!

May 9, 2015 1:24 PM
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So much salt going on here, holy moly. Let's see... I think they captured most of the main aspects from the VN, and let's be realistic here, there isn't enough time for all details to be captured within 20 minutes. The reality marble looked pretty damn good, and while it did partly feel rushed, the pacing still is rather fast, as it should be for this part. But what do I know? Someone might just debunk this because their opinion is superior. Bless you all.

I'd give it 4/5.
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Is this a directing issue or something? The scenes just lack impact. No immersion, nothing. The episode was honestly only good by virtue of the events that occurred.

One word: Miura. He has the special ability bordering on True Magic of changing the mood and meaning of anime into something different. Such a fearsome individual...
May 9, 2015 1:26 PM
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The hate is real in this thread lol

The episode did feel fast pace during the UBW scene but it was still awesome imo...Kinda salty that we didn't get the full chant but there will be another chance for that

Seeing Archer's life through Rin's eyes was really poetic and Archer's identity is finally out in the open too which is great because now we don't have to worry about spoiling the people who didn't obviously figure it out months ago

Next episode is the fight that I've been waiting for all year so I'm hyped
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Fabuzer said:
FillerFan said:
Is this a directing issue or something? The scenes just lack impact. No immersion, nothing. The episode was honestly only good by virtue of the events that occurred.

One word: Miura. He has the special ability bordering on True Magic of changing the mood and meaning of anime into something different. Such a fearsome individual...


No, it's the episode director, who is a different person (from what I read that person also directed Episodes 1, 4 and 8). Note that Miura himself is "just" the general director, however he was at the same time also the episode director of: Episode 0, the episode even many of the haters actually liked best, so......
May 9, 2015 1:31 PM

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WrongPriest said:
I want to take this moment to facepalm over the fact Archer used projection inside UBW, this is all I will mention of the subject.


I liked the episode, but I have to agree with that. XD

It felt rushed sadly, and some faces of Archer looked a little... Strange. But UBW was beautiful.

Still waiting for Apocrypha anime.
May 9, 2015 1:35 PM

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Tokoya said:
The hate is real in this thread lol

The episode did feel fast pace during the UBW scene but it was still awesome imo...Kinda salty that we didn't get the full chant but there will be another chance for that

Seeing Archer's life through Rin's eyes was really poetic and Archer's identity is finally out in the open too which is great because now we don't have to worry about spoiling the people who didn't obviously figure it out months ago

Next episode is the fight that I've been waiting for all year so I'm hyped


you'd think that people would know that a MEANINGFUL identity reveal is only bound between a set of people that are relevant to the story, meaning in this case it can be either shirou or some one from his harem ....
May 9, 2015 1:39 PM

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Sorry, but I must highlight this scene because it's so pretty.

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Ryouri said:
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I want to take this moment to facepalm over the fact Archer used projection inside UBW, this is all I will mention of the subject.


I liked the episode, but I have to agree with that. XD

It felt rushed sadly, and some faces of Archer looked a little... Strange. But UBW was beautiful.

Still waiting for Apocrypha anime.


UBW mechanics have been changed a bit.
May 9, 2015 1:41 PM
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WAD1992 said:
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The hate is real in this thread lol

The episode did feel fast pace during the UBW scene but it was still awesome imo...Kinda salty that we didn't get the full chant but there will be another chance for that

Seeing Archer's life through Rin's eyes was really poetic and Archer's identity is finally out in the open too which is great because now we don't have to worry about spoiling the people who didn't obviously figure it out months ago

Next episode is the fight that I've been waiting for all year so I'm hyped


you'd think that people would know that a MEANINGFUL identity reveal is only bound between a set of people that are relevant to the story, meaning in this case it can be either shirou or some one from his harem ....
The salty refuse to see these things because it's not a carbon copy of their precious VN and as such that makes it automatically bad - Which is retarded as fuck

Most of the salt in this thread are subjective to begin with anyway .....This episode was by no means bad and the art and animation was standard UFO quality as usual
May 9, 2015 1:44 PM

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Great episode.

Some people wouldn't be happy unless it was 35 minutes of UBW all hand drawn with ink found in Gate of Babylon, where Shirou monologues' for 45 minutes straight about the compost of each sword flying at him.
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Nah, I want longer fight. Monologue time should happen in cour 1. Cour 2 is where monologue should be cut short.
Shirou monologue where he goes "Trace On, he says the same thing as me" can be shortened with "Trace on?"
Simple and to the point. You know what I mean.

Forgot to mention:
-All the talk can be done while they are fighting and clashing weapons.
-Standing while talking to your target looks silly.

These two points already different from VN, no?
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since I don't really care about Lancer that much.


This is why Lancer will always be the suffering class.


Felt that this episode lacked something, still enjoyable, tough. I also can't get over the fact of how bad Gilgamesh is in f/stay night compared to his self in fate/zero. My king of mongrels can't be this shallow.
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