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Dec 13, 2014 7:55 PM

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Shiroe part is so much interesting than Akatsuki one. How did Demikas know the location though?
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion.

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Dec 13, 2014 9:15 PM

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This is what I call a MMORPG anime.
not like some other stories about an over-powered kid butchering raid bosses with his waifu.
Dec 13, 2014 10:29 PM
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NwAurion said:
I don't quite get the tactic.

So the actual fight, given the circumstances does make sense.

But why did they have to fight Luseat in the first place..........................




I understand the full raid mechanics because one of the games I've been playing having some raids. (Sky Tower Raid) . But my English was beyond too far to explain it. T___T
Dec 13, 2014 10:32 PM
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Zapredon said:
Shiroe part is so much interesting than Akatsuki one.

Isn't that always the case? :)
Zapredon said:

How did Demikas know the location though?

They all know its location, they show it in this episode when they explain their tactic.
Somehow though he's the only one that thought about going there without killing the raid bosses.
Dec 13, 2014 10:36 PM
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NwAurion said:
I don't quite get the tactic.

So the actual fight, given the circumstances does make sense.

But why did they have to fight Luseat in the first place, if you can avoid raid bosses?

They hoped to freeze him as he doesn't move in his white state, but they were wrong...
Remember, they are not really avoiding the bosses, they are optimizing the order and location of fighting them. If they are too slow, and if Luseat cannot be frozen, they should get all 3 bosses eventually in that room.
(Well I guess at the end of the episode Shiroe is skipping them after all)
Dec 13, 2014 11:56 PM

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Cannot wait to see how Shiroe handle the last boss alone.
Dec 14, 2014 12:10 AM

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Trap is going to joine Log Horizon :DDDD
Dec 14, 2014 3:34 AM
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Drakehawk said:
Cannot wait to see how Shiroe handle the last boss alone.

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Dec 14, 2014 4:19 AM

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geearf said:

Somehow though he's the only one that thought about going there without killing the raid bosses.

These bosses are clearly following them wherever they go. If the whole raid party did what Demikas did then they would fight 4 (or 3) bosses at the same time. Including the main raid boss. I really don't see how that would be a good idea.

During the fight in this episode, the raid party was separated into 2 smaller parties to take care of both bosses with the possibility of separating into 3rd for the 3rd boss. Separating yet another party to send it to another location would be pretty much a suicide even considering that what they are doing is a suicide. So it would be a suicide squared. Their forces would be too small to deal with any boss (the whole raid party had trouble with one boss).

What Demikas did is very risky and he himself told him to die there which means he doubts Shiroe has any chance to survive on his own. Why Demikas did it is beyond me but maybe he wanted to give Shiroe a chance to scout the final boss room so they know what to expect when/if they beat the other bosses.
Dec 14, 2014 6:01 AM

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Really loved this episode. Log's been on a roll for quite a while now and it hasn't let up just yet. And for some reason, I kinda like the Idol girl now, lol. Demikas actually thinking of someone other than himself for a change was great too. As for Shiroe, cant't wait to see how he handles the last raid boss. Can't wait for next week's episode.
Dec 14, 2014 12:00 PM

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This second attempt was spectacular and packed with action and strategies
Demikas tossing Shiroe to the abyssal shaft then entering it to see the stream of gold is the jackpot
Dec 15, 2014 12:19 AM

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Spliting up and taking on 2 raid bosses EPIC!!!

Whoa Lusset damaging himself to make his SHadow Vanguard 0___0

Demikas shined in this episode. He now understands Shiroe

OMG Kinjou and that other monster is the last raid boss 0_______0

Oh Shiroe and Naotsugu new armor and weapon <3

Oh Tetra joining Log Horizon Congrats
Dec 15, 2014 12:25 AM
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Wow, watching this episode and the one before it back-to-back renewed my faith in this series. This is what Log Horizon is about! They really hit one clear out of the park with this episode.

The lightning speed strategies and quick adaptation to changing circumstances were brilliant. I also loved how they referenced Shiroe's Mana Chanelling ability from season 1 and we also got to see another tank besides Naotsugu getting in on the action using Castle of Stone. And seeing Demikas' (I guess we can't call him 'Demiglace' anymore) characterization come to a head was a huge payoff. I honestly haven't been this excited to see the next episode since the first season.

If they manage to keep this up for the rest of the season, then I think Log Horizon still has a chance at becoming my all time #1 anime.
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Dec 15, 2014 3:52 AM

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NwAurion said:
I don't quite get the tactic.

So the actual fight, given the circumstances does make sense.

But why did they have to fight Luseat in the first place, if you can avoid raid bosses?

There's some explanation in baka tsuki's translation of the novel, but it doesn't all add up. O.o

They wanted to leave Luseat in White Knight mode since his attacks in that mode are far weaker. While he might be able to break down the gates in Black Knight mode, he definitely couldn't break it in White Knight mode. (He couldn't open the gates either since the opening mechanism was on the other side.) What doesn't make sense is that Luseat would go back to Black in about 3 minutes, so this doesn't buy them that much time. As it turns out, Luseat couldn't break the gate and had to send the shadow guard through instead.

As for the attack radii... I guess you don't need to keep the attack radii from overlapping, but if you do that, it results in a better "factor of safety", so even if the bosses move a bit, no-one will ever be in range of both Taltaulgar's and Ibrahabra's wide AoE attacks.

As for why Demikas dragged Shiroe... Maybe (unlikely) he knew he needed to combine his speed with Shiroe's projectile attacks to make the kiting strategy work. Maybe he wanted to put Shiroe into a position where he'd be inclined to call him by his name properly. Maybe he thought the raid would end prematurely if Shiroe could just get into the goal room. (Iunno if any real raids are supposed to work like that. O.o?) Maybe he thought that Ibrahabra would be defeated even without Shiroe since Shiroe was just a backline strategist who didn't do much actual work. In any case... Definitely an impulsive move by Demikas, not thought out at all. O.o
Dec 15, 2014 6:50 AM

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Log horizon YEY!
Dec 15, 2014 1:38 PM
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I kind of like Delicious/Democracy, and I looove Tetora. I find her refreshing.. the way she's not shy and the way she teases Naotsugu - fun fun! :) I'm totally hooked on LH and I can't wait for the next episode!
Dec 15, 2014 4:39 PM

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this ep brings back memories of the good old MMO Raid days
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Dec 15, 2014 8:22 PM

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Dec 15, 2014 10:38 PM

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That boss sure is smart.
Next epi will be good but how the heck he's gonna solo? Don't pull a Kirito on us please.
Dec 16, 2014 4:02 AM

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Good episode this time, but that big boss? How is Shiroe going to handle it :O
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Dec 16, 2014 7:31 AM

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I laughed so hard at the Trap riding on Naotsugu's shoulders whilst using her Aurora Heal move, all the whilst talking shop with him. Kinda reminds me of when me and my buddies used to play portable Monster Hunter against two or more boss creatures. Even the tactics were kinda similar too.

I also don't understand how Shiroe and Naotsugu got armor and equipment upgrades, didn't they just spend a week collecting potions and stuff after their last (first) deaths? Since when did they have the extra armor and equipment? And if they'd had it before their first attempt at the raid, why not wear it then????

Still hasn't given us the big reveal about why Shiroe wants to beat this raid though.
I really wanna know what the end purpose is.
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Dec 16, 2014 10:29 AM

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So much character development for everyone, I love it.
I really hate that adventurer guy though. After all the trouble they went through he was inside the last room all this time waiting for them? I hope Shiroe kicks his ass.
I also love all of the MMORPG attacks and strategies they use, unlike the current SAO which isn't even about MMOs anymore...
Dec 16, 2014 12:24 PM
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L-Ryoshi said:
Still hasn't given us the big reveal about why Shiroe wants to beat this raid though.
I really wanna know what the end purpose is.


Erm... yes, it was revealed. Maybe you should have watched it more carefully :)

HandsomeMan said:
I really hate that adventurer guy though. After all the trouble they went through he was inside the last room all this time waiting for them? I hope Shiroe kicks his ass.


The guy in "the last room" is one of the People of the Land, not an Adventurer ;)
Dec 16, 2014 12:26 PM

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You're right my bad, got the two mixed up.
Dec 16, 2014 12:43 PM

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Takata said:
It almost feels like cheating (no-clipping?) to break through the gate and approach the bosses in a different order, but -shrug-, the gate -was- breakable. o.o

I'm guessing Ibrahabra will be finished before Shiroe's skills are needed to restart the (roughly 10-minute?) cycle again. By this time, they won't need Shiroe right away since they'll only have Taltaulgar to deal with.

....still a cliffhanger regarding what Shiroe wants 80 trillion gold for. >.<

Demikas seems to have changed rather quickly. Coming up with two good tactics on the spot (pulling AoE damage to himself and using his speed to kite all of the shadowguard whilst inserting Shiroe behind enemy lines) seems unlike him too. o.o


You have to remember the "game" is becoming less and less of a game and more real by the day. The whole trick to learning the Teachings was o think of the combat as less like a game and more like how you would fight in real life if you had the same skills.

Also Demikas was never an idiot he was simply a hothead and greedy. You have to remember he was the leader of a major combat guild and while nowhere comparable to Shiroe or William he was a tactician for his fighting teams.

Dec 16, 2014 5:36 PM

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Awesome episode, this is what raiding is about.

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Dec 17, 2014 4:53 AM

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Man, great episode. Demikas had some good chara development, too. Shiroe as well.
Dec 17, 2014 7:40 AM
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New outfits! They look awesome. Oh divide and conquer is the best option here, I don’t like Shiroe and I probably never will but he does come up with the best plans. I’m glad Demikas is growing up and changing his views a bit. Wow that’s a lot of gold!
Dec 20, 2014 2:09 PM

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Decent battles this episode. Breaking the gate is cheating though...
Dec 21, 2014 11:09 PM

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Sometimes you don't have to take the obvious way in--we're not all tanks. This was a pretty elegant solution to dealing with three raid bosses at the same time.
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Dec 23, 2014 2:58 PM

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That was such an awesome episode >:D
Dec 24, 2014 5:04 AM

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HAHAHAHAHAHA WELL BOOOOOOHOOOOO HAHAHAHAHA
Dec 25, 2014 11:49 PM

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Where did the new armor and equipment come from?
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Dec 30, 2014 9:53 AM

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Awesome, Tetra joining Log Horizon means more screen time for her :D Was it that easy though? I feel like only close friends join the guild. I guess they might've been able to build a good relationship within their weeks together off-screen.

How did Demikas find that doorway on his own? I like all the character development that has happened since this raid started though. I'm curious to find out what happens next..
Jan 6, 2015 10:43 AM

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3 bosses at the same time is a bit too hard better skip them and go to last boss room and solo it? It will be fun if shiroe go and defeat last boss alone.

And i wonder how much gold he can carry alone?
Jan 11, 2015 6:35 PM

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Good episode, very technical ala RPG. Demikas is being tsundere everytime Shirou buffs him. lulz.
Jan 19, 2015 2:18 AM

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Tetra Kawaii!

Demikas is playing dat wildcard.

Shiro and Kinjou faceoff?!
Feb 6, 2015 7:58 AM

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WOW! That party coordination and the feels > SAO,SAO 2

Mar 5, 2015 1:06 AM

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Seriously what is his plan ? LOL.
Mar 24, 2015 10:33 AM

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This episode felt good, and Demi-Demi topped most of the characters.



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Apr 6, 2015 1:50 PM

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Very interesting ending! Let's see what's next.
Nov 12, 2015 4:44 PM

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What's up with Demikas? lol I can't understand him. Anyway that's some awesome action right there. I wanted to see how the raid bosses will be defeated but oh well.
Nov 15, 2015 10:25 AM

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They are giving it all! Great fight and lots of strategy uses. Now, is that 1VS1 battle Shorie is gonna get himself into?
Feb 16, 2016 8:53 AM

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Uhm dafuq? Couldn't they have just stealth-ed their way to the final boss if Shiroe could arrive at the most bottom level of the cave without defeating the previous 3 raid bosses? -.-;;
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Great throughout the whole episode.
Loved how Ruseato attacked himself to summon more Vanguards.
Oct 23, 2016 1:57 AM

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Demikas tanking the damage was really cool :D
Lmao Tetra was so cute :D

Demikas knew where the final room was and didn't tell anyone? - I do believe that they need to kill all raid bosses but this way it seemed like they only needed to get there ... if that's the case they could've just gone there anyway.
Apr 14, 2017 7:22 PM

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It was a good episode, much better than the previous one for sure!!!
Nice battles, i like a lot the strategies in Log Horizon, it makes me remember of No Game No Life xd
And Demikas actually thinks...


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Oct 13, 2017 3:55 AM

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Tetra: ur gonna love it, are u ready, i am joining Log Horizon, what u think?... i got Shiroe's permission first

Naotsugu: Shiroe buddy ur gonna pay for this

ME: XD

its fun to see how a NPC woman made Demikas in to pushover :)
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When Demikas is clever than Shiro.
Apr 30, 2018 12:34 AM

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So did Shiro tell them about the true objective in the raid goal? Hmmm...
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