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| Lubbock's death chapter was one of the few I "peeked in" at a couple of few weeks ago and was all "NOOOOOO!" I thought the manga did it better than the anime version but at least he killed that bastard Shura and got to say his farewell piece in both. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| Ok: Regardless of the manga, this made a lot more sense for the anime version. String-man Lu had a much more epic death. The random minister's son had a much better death. We get to skip over RAPE-CLOWN and all that random stuff. The deaths are out of order, but if they manage the episodes coming forward right, they should be fine. Seriously, what's with the ANTI-HYPE train xD Everyone gonna yell abandon ship? |
| A great protagonist once said, "It's only overpowered if you can't return the favor!" |
| Ok, finally watched the episode, and i must say: It wasn't NEARLY as bad as i thought it would be. It was actually pretty entertaining, animation was on point, ost was gorgeous as always, and Lubbock's death wasn't 'bad' although many things about this episode didn't make much sense, like some users pointed out already... No continuity from the last episode? Seriously? If you're gonna butcher something, at least do it in a way there's still a minimum coherence left... Budo's voice is good, but not good enough. Anime original char and skipping Wild Hunt, not happy. Shura felt so bland, i'm aware that even in the manga he didn't really got much exposition, but still, here, he just felt meh, his powers got a little more explanations, which is ok i guess, good voice acting also. Also dying after 1 episode of introduction... Comparing Lubbo's death in the anime and manga...i think that his death in the manga kinda sucked, but this just felt rushed, and also there's was no , which was used to expand his character... Also skipping tons of characterization, one arc, and just straight out going anime-original... I'm so sad right now...i actually shed some tears...Why didn't u stayed canon White Fox? Why do you play with my feelings? Gonna keep watching, but as a manga reader, i'm pretty disappointed The minister's "oh well" was fucking gold though, just like the comedy in this. So many disrespectful people in this thread, sigh... Edit: My reaction to this episode Forgot to say, No Wild Hunt= No Wave's crucial moment , no Ran's backstory, No Kurome's characterization, sigh... Also just WHAT THE FUCK was up about that woman standing up after having her neck sliced?! That was laughable. That one fight can still happen, but we all know it's not about the fight, and not about a pedo-clown either, it's about plain and simple respect. |
PriestSlayerNov 16, 2014 8:12 PM
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
PriestSlayer said: Ok, finally watched the episode, and i must say: It wasn't NEARLY as bad as i thought it would be. It was actually pretty entertaining, animation was on point, ost was gorgeous as always, and Lubbock's death wasn't 'bad' although many things about this episode didn't make much sense, like some users pointed out already... No continuity from the last episode? Seriously? If you're gonna butcher something, at least do it in a way there's still a minimum coherence left... Budo's voice is good, but not good enough. Anime original char and skipping Wild Hunt, not happy. Shura felt so bland, i'm aware that even in the manga he didn't really got much exposition, but still, here, he just felt meh, his powers got a little more explanations, which is ok i guess, good voice acting also. Also dying after 1 episode of introduction... Comparing Lubbo's death in the anime and manga...i think that his death in the manga kinda sucked, but this just felt rushed, and also there's was no , which was used to expand his character... Also skipping tons of characterization, one arc, and just straight out going anime-original... I'm so sad right now...i actually shed some tears...Why didn't u stayed canon White Fox? Why do you play with my feelings? Gonna keep watching, but as a manga reader, i'm pretty disappointed The minister's "oh well" was fucking gold though, just like the comedy in this. So many disrespectful people in this thread, sigh... I think people hated Mr. String-man and were just waiting for his glorious torture scenes. As long as this anime has a decent ending, we can all blame the anime for being terrible, and say read the manga! |
| A great protagonist once said, "It's only overpowered if you can't return the favor!" |
7starkiller99 said: People over react is all. Even if they managed to do things even better like what they did in this episode people are still going to bitch about it. I'm just disappointed that so many manga readers are so pessimistic and butthurt because the shit stain of the series got axedOk: Regardless of the manga, this made a lot more sense for the anime version. String-man Lu had a much more epic death. The random minister's son had a much better death. We get to skip over RAPE-CLOWN and all that random stuff. The deaths are out of order, but if they manage the episodes coming forward right, they should be fine. Seriously, what's with the ANTI-HYPE train xD Everyone gonna yell abandon ship? |
Tokoya said: 7starkiller99 said: People over react is all. Even if they managed to do things even better like what they did in this episode people are still going to bitch about it. I'm just disappointed that so many manga readers are so pessimistic and butthurt because the shit stain of the series got axedOk: Regardless of the manga, this made a lot more sense for the anime version. String-man Lu had a much more epic death. The random minister's son had a much better death. We get to skip over RAPE-CLOWN and all that random stuff. The deaths are out of order, but if they manage the episodes coming forward right, they should be fine. Seriously, what's with the ANTI-HYPE train xD Everyone gonna yell abandon ship? I can see if they liked the manga version more, but without hope for a second season, all I want is a random badass ending with Tatsumi killing the Minister in a mutual death style along with Kurome and Akame finishing their deal. I bet they'll just pull a KAZE NO STIGMA and have both sides back off to fight another day with Tatsumi screaming bloody revenge or something. |
| A great protagonist once said, "It's only overpowered if you can't return the favor!" |
7starkiller99 said: Yeah, but it's best to wait until the anime is over before you start judging. Especially since we all knew that it was going original from since last week. And yeah I'd like that too along with some development for WaveTokoya said: People over react is all. Even if they managed to do things even better like what they did in this episode people are still going to bitch about it. I'm just disappointed that so many manga readers are so pessimistic and butthurt because the shit stain of the series got axed I can see if they liked the manga version more, but without hope for a second season, all I want is a random badass ending with Tatsumi killing the Minister in a mutual death style along with Kurome and Akame finishing their deal. I bet they'll just pull a KAZE NO STIGMA and have both sides back off to fight another day with Tatsumi screaming bloody revenge or something. And lmaooooo if they do that I'll be PISSED xD |
| As a non-manga reader, I'm not sure what was the big deal because everyone was ranting about episode 19 --> episode 20 jump... What was the actual issue? |
| Deviation from manga detected. Anime original bullshit incoming? |
bla bla bla The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.Niko-kun said: On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard? |
mayukachan said: As a non-manga reader, I'm not sure what was the big deal because everyone was ranting about episode 19 --> episode 20 jump... What was the actual issue? It's really the whole idea in my opinion that the manga was overall better. The anime wouldn't have happened without the manga so it's really stupid to deviate from it. Especially, when some of the scenes were actually necessary to the plot. I mean... after episode 19 most people expected to see the fight scene that was in the manga, but i guess they just randomly forgot about it next week.. |
| Hrmmm... I couldn't even read all these pages of comments, I may have made it through 5 pages. I mean, seriously, so much bitching and crying over absolutely nothing important. Once again we are faced with the conundrum that never dies- An anime adaptation of a popular manga comes out, but doesn't copy every fucking panel exactly as it's drawn in the manga, so that automatically makes it awful, hideous, garbage that no one is allowed to like. Are you fucking stupid? Yeah, the manga is excellent, although not perfect by far. But, this anime is actually really good. I've enjoyed it since the start, so it's not staying faithful to the manga but the changes haven't really bothered me. And from what I hear the manga author actually helped out with this adaptation, including the AO ending that's incoming- so if you're calling this garbage you're basically saying the manga author doesn't know how to adapt his own work. Personally, the only problem I have with the content skip is the lack of followup to last weeks episode. They could have finished off the fights that started last episode, still skipping Wild Hunt, and it would have been just as good. Oh, and Lubbuck got a much better death here than in the manga. He's been such a badass in this adaptation, and went out with a bang taking down Shura's idiot ass with him. Seriously, for real folks, stop over-reacting and getting so butthurt just because NO ANIME EVER completely adapts it's source material panel for panel, word for word. Anime is a different medium, things have to be changed, it's how this shit works. So far I've rated this series a 9, regardless of the changes. That could change depending on these next 4 episodes, but I don't think they can hurt it that much. As for this episode, I'll give it a 7. |
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mayukachan said: As a non-manga reader, I'm not sure what was the big deal because everyone was ranting about episode 19 --> episode 20 jump... What was the actual issue? Please read the last 20 pages. It isn't all shit. 7starkiller99 said: Ok: Regardless of the manga, this made a lot more sense for the anime version. String-man Lu had a much more epic death. The random minister's son had a much better death. We get to skip over RAPE-CLOWN and all that random stuff. The deaths are out of order, but if they manage the episodes coming forward right, they should be fine. Seriously, what's with the ANTI-HYPE train xD Everyone gonna yell abandon ship? I'll just continue to observe the ship. Whether it sinks or not. PriestSlayer said: Ok, finally watched the episode, and i must say: It wasn't NEARLY as bad as i thought it would be. It was actually pretty entertaining, animation was on point, ost was gorgeous as always, and Lubbock's death wasn't 'bad' although many things about this episode didn't make much sense, like some users pointed out already... No continuity from the last episode? Seriously? If you're gonna butcher something, at least do it in a way there's still a minimum coherence left... Budo's voice is good, but not good enough. Anime original char and skipping Wild Hunt, not happy. Shura felt so bland, i'm aware that even in the manga he didn't really got much exposition, but still, here, he just felt meh, his powers got a little more explanations, which is ok i guess, good voice acting also. Also dying after 1 episode of introduction... Comparing Lubbo's death in the anime and manga...i think that his death in the manga kinda sucked, but this just felt rushed, and also there's was no , which was used to expand his character... Also skipping tons of characterization, one arc, and just straight out going anime-original... I'm so sad right now...i actually shed some tears...Why didn't u stayed canon White Fox? Why do you play with my feelings? Gonna keep watching, but as a manga reader, i'm pretty disappointed The minister's "oh well" was fucking gold though, just like the comedy in this. So many disrespectful people in this thread, sigh... Edit: My reaction to this episode Forgot to say, No Wild Hunt= No Wave's crucial moment , no Ran's backstory, No Kurome's characterization, sigh... Also just WHAT THE FUCK was up about that woman standing up after having her neck sliced?! That was laughable. That one fight can still happen, but we all know it's not about the fight, and not about a pedo-clown either, it's about plain and simple respect. GJ man, I concur with pretty much everything you said. |
| "There's no shame in falling down... true shame is to not stand up again!" "Aah? Of course I won't miss!" "My blood tastes like Iron." "Run through the tape in life! Never give up! Run through the tape!" |
| I'm a little mixed about his episode. On one hand I don't like that they skipped the whole last episode fight and just made it look like nothing happened. They could have left that fight it and tried to end the season around that part. Still I did enjoy this episode. Lubbock got a bit more screen time and went out like a bad ass during his battle. I'm also kinda glad they are skipping Wild Hunt. That might have been a bit to much. With all the murder and rapping they do. Still I plan to finish this and then I'm going to start reading the manga more. Just to see all the differences. |
NoongaJuice said: Please read the last 20 pages. It isn't all shit. Lol no I'm not reading 20 pages. Ain't nobody got time for dat. |
| Didn't know it deviated from the manga. I thought it was a pretty good episode. The number of characters keep dwindling down. |
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mayukachan said: NoongaJuice said: Please read the last 20 pages. It isn't all shit. Lol no I'm not reading 20 pages. Ain't nobody got time for dat. Lol just the sensible posts Edit: Bc you seem to only read the 80% average people who just comment the first thing that comes into their heads instead of using their brain. |
NotJustJuiceNov 16, 2014 11:13 PM
| "There's no shame in falling down... true shame is to not stand up again!" "Aah? Of course I won't miss!" "My blood tastes like Iron." "Run through the tape in life! Never give up! Run through the tape!" |
| OMG Lubba~~ T~T My heart can't take this. He's the coolest char (IMO) here. TAT Why?~ |
Minori said: *bawling* I'll never get married w/ a body like this! What'll I do? Kousaka said: Married? It looks like you're already pregnant. |
| why. why. whyyy...whyyy. why. WHY WHYYY. WHYYYYYYYY!??!!!!????!!!?????! FUCKING WHY?!!!?????!!!!?!?? Studio Pierrot and Tokyo Ghoul all over again. I will say that the fights were interesting, but not nearly as interesting as ALL THE FUCKING MATERIAL THEY SKIPPED. I bet the studio just wanted to get as many deaths in as possible to sell BDs. Because if they kept to the manga and stopped in the proper spot there would only be 1 more death. But then if they would've done a sequel there would've been like 10 deaths in 4 episodes. Fucking White Fox has just lowered themselves to Pierrot level. I bet these fucking assholes are going to make Esdese get killed off at the end too. Just you fucking wait. Cannot wait to see the ratings for this show drop faster than the stock market in 4 weeks when it ends. |
Tokoya said: 7starkiller99 said: People over react is all. Even if they managed to do things even better like what they did in this episode people are still going to bitch about it. I'm just disappointed that so many manga readers are so pessimistic and butthurt because the shit stain of the series got axedOk: Regardless of the manga, this made a lot more sense for the anime version. String-man Lu had a much more epic death. The random minister's son had a much better death. We get to skip over RAPE-CLOWN and all that random stuff. The deaths are out of order, but if they manage the episodes coming forward right, they should be fine. Seriously, what's with the ANTI-HYPE train xD Everyone gonna yell abandon ship? People have the right to overreact. Why? Because there was no need to change shit that wasn't broken. Also yea sure, theres a good amount of people that are happy they skipped over the Wild Hunt gruesome stuff...but that made things much worse. Why? Because 1: had they adapted this properly, it would've ended right after the Esdese fight, and we wouldn't have seen any Wild Hunt material anyway. And 2: because the Wild Hunt arc had an INSANE amount of character development! Which is now all gone! This also ruined any hope for a season 2. Post Esdese/Pre Wild Hunt would've been the perfect place to end it and possibly tease a cliffhanger. Also I saw someone mention something like "the author is helping make the AO, so if you are criticizing it, you're basically saying he doesn't know how to adapt his own work".....Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Clearly if he knew what he was doing then this wouldn't be heading in this direction from the start, and it's just going to lead to less money in his pocket. |
| So many deaths, I wonder how they're going to kill everyone in 4 episodes |
| Holy shit what did they do to the story? They changed everything! Even the fight between everyone and Esdese! Instant degrade to 7. |
| "Ogon’ po gotovnosti!" |
Jonesy974 said: People have the right to overreact. Why? Because there was no need to change shit that wasn't broken. It was probably changed due to time constraints (only 24 episodes). You're right in saying that it doesn't need to be fixed if it's not broken, but think about another really awesome anime that probably won't get a second season. Now, think about how unpredictable making money through media is. People will either love it, or hate it. Put two and two together and you get something along the lines of: "We should try to get a proper ending with our budget and episode constraint". Instead of leaving off with a half finished story. Remember, without enough sales, that part of the story will never be animated. |
| Rushed episode and now take different path from his manga? the way of Lubbock die is quite shock me :'( |
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| fuck this shit, fma all over again |
PriestSlayer said: Darklight0303 said: lolTehchnically shishkebabed I'd say cannot be unseen lol |
| THIS IS NOT OKAY! KILLING OFF ONE OF MY FAVORITE CHARACTERS IS! NOT! OKAY! R.I.P. Lubbock :( |
ADHthaGreat said: Jeez. People here need to relax and just take things as they come. None of you know the politics involved in making an anime or anything the studio had to accomplish. So stop acting like entitled, spoiled brats and just enjoy what is being given to you.. Or don't and complain and be miserable. Your choice. Things were changed, so what? Leave your expectations else where and just enjoy the damn ride. That being said.. Weird plot hole aside.. I enjoyed this episode and am looking forward to the next. It's funny that you said "weird plot holes aside" hmmm... I wonder if it's because the anime didn't follow the manga and now it's going to it's on route, which will lead to plot holes popping up as we go. lol I also wonder how they're going to make Esdeath know that Tatsumi is from the NR, since she is suppose to know his I dentity alreadym but they skip the part when she found out the truth, Maybe they'll make some random character tell her or some shit like that. lol |
keragammingNov 16, 2014 10:28 PM
| Gotta kill 'em all! |
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ADHthaGreat said: Jeez. People here need to relax and just take things as they come. None of you know the politics involved in making an anime or anything the studio had to accomplish. So stop acting like entitled, spoiled brats and just enjoy what is being given to you.. Or don't and complain and be miserable. Your choice. Things were changed, so what? Leave your expectations else where and just enjoy the damn ride. That being said.. Weird plot hole aside.. I enjoyed this episode and am looking forward to the next.  |
| Seriously why did they have to ruin a good thing? I was fine with them skipping Edeses retarded time freeze ability but introducing the prime ministers son and then killing him and Lub off in one episode... what the fuck is this shit. It's so rushed the way Lub died is so horse shit too. |
| fuck that |
ADHthaGreat said: Jeez. People here need to relax and just take things as they come. None of you know the politics involved in making an anime or anything the studio had to accomplish. So stop acting like entitled, spoiled brats and just enjoy what is being given to you.. Or don't and complain and be miserable. Your choice. Things were changed, so what? Leave your expectations else where and just enjoy the damn ride. That being said.. Weird plot hole aside.. I enjoyed this episode and am looking forward to the next. Well said. Manga readers need to view anime adaptations as dessert... something extra. When Tokyo Ghoul came out, I still enjoyed it for the most part even though it didn't exactly follow the manga. |
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| Bullllll~shiiiiit~ Based White Fox... Dear anime-only watchers: just forget this nonsense already and choose the manga instead. |
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MEsoJD said: @lol, that logic. Just why should we be expecting less from an adaptation?? Sure, they can't possibly fit all info in, but there's a difference between adapting and butchering.ADHthaGreat said: Jeez. People here need to relax and just take things as they come. None of you know the politics involved in making an anime or anything the studio had to accomplish. So stop acting like entitled, spoiled brats and just enjoy what is being given to you.. Or don't and complain and be miserable. Your choice. Things were changed, so what? Leave your expectations else where and just enjoy the damn ride. That being said.. Weird plot hole aside.. I enjoyed this episode and am looking forward to the next. Well said. Manga readers need to view anime adaptations as dessert... something extra. When Tokyo Ghoul came out, I still enjoyed it for the most part even though it didn't exactly follow the manga. TG 'didn't exactly follow the manga'? I would suggest you reading it again. |
PriestSlayerNov 16, 2014 11:17 PM
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
| Oh yeah I am curious, what about last episode when Esdese and Najenda met? WTF happened there? |
| "Ogon’ po gotovnosti!" |
keragamming said: ADHthaGreat said: Jeez. People here need to relax and just take things as they come. None of you know the politics involved in making an anime or anything the studio had to accomplish. So stop acting like entitled, spoiled brats and just enjoy what is being given to you.. Or don't and complain and be miserable. Your choice. Things were changed, so what? Leave your expectations else where and just enjoy the damn ride. That being said.. Weird plot hole aside.. I enjoyed this episode and am looking forward to the next. It's funny that you said "weird plot holes aside" hmmm... I wonder if it's because the anime didn't follow the manga and now it's going to it's on route, which will lead to plot holes popping up as we go. lol I also wonder how they're going to make Esdeath know that Tatsumi is from the NR, since she is suppose to know his I dentity alreadym but they skip the part when she found out the truth, Maybe they'll make some random character tell her or some shit like that. lol Tatsumi gave his name to Budou (Yeah, another WTF moment) so that's probably how it will go. |
| "There's no shame in falling down... true shame is to not stand up again!" "Aah? Of course I won't miss!" "My blood tastes like Iron." "Run through the tape in life! Never give up! Run through the tape!" |
| So now what? Could still happen while saving Tatsumi though |
Stay in yesterday 時を止めて |
| WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS EPISODE Holy fuck Akame going in the garbage, after 18 golden episodes. Why do this? Terrible episode, fuck anime originals |
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| ITT: butthurt manga fans bitching about anime changes I sympathize with you, but I'd much rather have changes than a bunch of rushed bullshit where it skips half the series like so many other adaptions. I'd also prefer it to a thorough adaption with a cliffhanger ending when its obvious AGK wouldn't get a sequel for a LONG time, if it ever would. Cliffhangers endings only work if a sequel is guaranteed within the next year. From the neutral perspective of someone who isn't reading the manga, this episode was fucking incredible. The action was good, it made me hyped af, and I was positively FURIOUS when that woman stabbed Lubbock. If an anime conjures extreme anger and hatred towards a particular character or event, that's a sign of success. RIP Lubbock. After this episode, you'll go down as one of my favorite characters of the series for sure. I can't be the only one pissed that all the good characters are dying while fucking Mine is still alive with no signs of death coming anytime soon. ffs |
ZadionNov 17, 2014 6:42 AM
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Zadion said: This is actually why I loved School Days. But then again, everyone should love School Days if that was the case. I agree with everything you said bro. Just butthurt manga fans complaining as usual nothing new here.If an anime conjures extreme anger and hatred towards a particular character or event, that's a sign of success. |
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| [*]MinexTatsumi won't develop like it should... more like, it just didn't. [*]This in turn will hardly give much sense to the next episode... I suppose the story will be totally different now for it to work decently because... let's make more shiz storm, right? [*]Jaegars story neglected. [*]Lubbock's story neglected. [*]Character's "alive/dead" status are all messed up. |
| "Got it?this is what it means to kill things" |
| Did I miss something here? Epiosde 19 had a fight between Su/Leone vs. Wave/Kurome. They showed Wave charging at Su, but then cut to Najenda talking to Esdeath. The episode ended without ever getting back to the Wave vs. Su fight. Episode 20 begins, and you see Wave and Kurome eating dinner with the guy with the feather in his hair. His name escapes me. Did they just skip that fight? We see all 4 characters in that fight in episode 20, so they all survived clearly. Did Wave see the scene change and just say, "Alright guys, scene over, same time next week?" |
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