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| Okay, first of all: Second, LOL at the "Fuck Touka Express". Third, this chapter felt like just another crumb that i'm trying to build a piece of bread with. So little revealed, but i still like the hell out of it. There's little doubt that Haise is Kaneki now - them black nails and alternate personality. The priest is back - creepy, but also smug. 4.5/5. Told you guys that Tsukiyama ain't Torso... |
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| That personality change. Never expected that. O.o Overall good chapter. I feel like I should know the girl at the end of the chapter. Maybe I need to reread the entire series again. Or maybe she's a new character? |
ninjastarforcex said: and here we go, hide's habit again while playing detective Yep, Haise seems to be highly influenced by Hide and Arima(also glasses?). Ken's always been a good theater player :) I kinda waiting for him to snap though and go Sasarious badass mode. |
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| Pretty obvious why the ghoul is called Torso in the first place. That SS ranked ghoul named Donato kinda scares me though. |
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palasataja said: ninjastarforcex said: and here we go, hide's habit again while playing detective Yep, Haise seems to be highly influenced by Hide and Arima(also glasses?). Ken's always been a good theater player :) I kinda waiting for him to snap though and go Sasarious badass mode. Lol, Ishida with the English puns, wasn't expecting that. I still think there might be more to Sasaki's personality though. Clearly he's a mix of white and black haired Kaneki but like everyone's saying he does give off a strong Hide vibe too. I'm still pretty convinced that Kaneki actually ate Hide and I think this might be the result. Kind of like how Rize and Yamori started influencing his behavior in Tokyo Ghoul. |
| Hey, Donato is Amon's foster "dad". He was already in TG manga too. And I'm pretty sure the girl in the last panel is Hinami. |
Nanami said: Hey, Donato is Amon's foster "dad". He was already in TG manga too. And I'm pretty sure the girl in the last panel is Hinami. I'm really curious what Donato wants to talk to him about next time. I'm thinking it's something related to Amon and Aogiri tree. And yeah, at first glance I was thinking Hinami too. Maybe she's a messenger for Aogiri now, maybe one of Ayato's subordinates. |
| I thought that was Hinami in the raws but now I think not. Or hope not to be precise. Shu is probably not Torso anymore. He's probably busy sniffing Haise's underpants now XD And Haise = Ken 10000% confirmed!!! Loved that scene in his dream >.<!! |
Barion-ZaraOct 27, 2014 2:35 PM
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| Okay I'm convince that Haise is Ken now. Another great chapter. Not really surprise that Shirazu and Urie can't eat. Chie Hori seems quite the character. Had to ID check her lol. Tsukiyama is not Torso. Now that brings us back to square one. Urie trick Shirazu and now they get Sasarious lol. Good to see "father" Donato again. Seems like Ken is letting Haise know, if he become weak. He just might resurface. And is that my girl Hinami? Seems like she join the Tree after all. Wonder why? Damn it just another chapter that fucks with me. 5/5. |
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| A lot of people are taking this chapter as Kaneki = Haise confirmed; I actually am more doubtful now. This chapter mentions that the Q's have quinque put in them, and if Kaneki's quinque was harvested and put in Haise, he would have his scent and powers, kind of like Kaneki had Rize's. Could be his organs too who knows. Also the monologue comparing him to the priest wasn't Haise, it was dream white kaneki saying that. I hope not, but I feel Kaneki is only alive in Haise's mind now. |
| Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. |
RomanBellic said: A lot of people are taking this chapter as Kaneki = Haise confirmed; I actually am more doubtful now. This chapter mentions that the Q's have quinque put in them, and if Kaneki's quinque was harvested and put in Haise, he would have his scent and powers, kind of like Kaneki had Rize's. Could be his organs too who knows. Also the monologue comparing him to the priest wasn't Haise, it was dream white kaneki saying that. I hope not, but I feel Kaneki is only alive in Haise's mind now. That would be so lame. |
RomanBellic said: A lot of people are taking this chapter as Kaneki = Haise confirmed; I actually am more doubtful now. This chapter mentions that the Q's have quinque put in them, and if Kaneki's quinque was harvested and put in Haise, he would have his scent and powers, kind of like Kaneki had Rize's. Could be his organs too who knows. Also the monologue comparing him to the priest wasn't Haise, it was dream white kaneki saying that. I hope not, but I feel Kaneki is only alive in Haise's mind now. But how does that explain that Sasaki looks EXACTLY like Kaneki with different hair? Even if Sasaki was some random guy who got Kaneki's kakuhou it wouldn't make him look identical. I guess there are going to be doubters no matter what, lol. At least until Sasaki gets his memories back and literally goes "Oh yeah, I'm Kaneki" in a chapter. |
| The translations were iffy but from what I got to understand, Kaneki got picked up by Arima either because he felt bad for him(Plot shield) or CCG orders, then he gets brainwashed, Hide after meeting Kaneki got kidnapped and brainwashed as well, I wouldnt be surprised if he is dead, What else can he add to the plot? |
LordPerucho said: The translations were iffy but from what I got to understand, Kaneki got picked up by Arima either because he felt bad for him(Plot shield) or CCG orders, then he gets brainwashed, Hide after meeting Kaneki got kidnapped and brainwashed as well, I wouldnt be surprised if he is dead, What else can he add to the plot? why would ccg brainwashed hide when he already dead? |
| At least im glad Haises memories havent been totally wiped out,i was worried he wouldve been made to forget all about him being Kaneki,but,it seems he dreams or rather has nightmares regarding his past self. So Hinami works with the tree,Ayato and Torso and Chie. Torso has awfully similar views to Tsukiyama regarding food. Can we have a glimpse of Touka pls? Ah i can see faintly in the distance,Saiko dying and Haise snapping and going apeshit over the death of his helpless comrade,i very hype right now  |
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| http://i.4cdn.org/a/1414448535715.png hehhh, I see. Getting all fired up.... arriving at the prison (with those quinquewalls) and being not so sasarious anymore. Doesn't that confirm that he's a half ghoul (the real ones, not one of those quinqui implanted one)? Also, it seems Shirazu desperately needs the money for something? (maybe his family?) http://imperialscans.com/read/tokyo-ghoul-re/3-bell/8 |
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ninjastarforcex said: why would ccg brainwashed hide when he already dead? Hides death shouldve been confirmed then, no point in dragging it out. Torso being Tsukiyama would be a good way to give him a new personality, never liked how he was a poor Hisoka ripoff. |
| just read the imperial scans translation and im not sure ppl noticed it but there was a translation that was plain wrong (aside from multiple typos and other fuckups): I dont know what the original word is on page 5 panel 4 but "Glorreich" simply does not mean "MY PRIDE". In german it means "glorious/gloriously" and even "famous" and that is it. that aside..torso has to be tsukiyama. |
LordPerucho said: ninjastarforcex said: why would ccg brainwashed hide when he already dead? Hides death shouldve been confirmed then, no point in dragging it out. Torso being Tsukiyama would be a good way to give him a new personality, never liked how he was a poor Hisoka ripoff. Hisoka ripoff? No. Just because they're both perverts doesn't mean he's a ripoff of Hisoka. I feel Tsukiyama developed a strong emotional attachment/ obsession with Kaneki that he just can't cut. Hisoka is far too flippant and sociopathic for that to ever happen to him. I don't really want to see Tsukiyama as Torso. Just let him suffer through his Kaneki obsession for all eternity. |
| i dont get it, why ppl talk about brainwashing its not even logic. more logic thing couldve happen is that kaneki ate haise (when a ghoul is hungry as fuck you cant controll yourself/ like when we saw Lize) to fight arima and then he got stabbed in the head by arima he lost his memories. he'd not die just cuz of that, ken abilities make him regenerate extremly fast. would be so lame that CCG brainwash ppl liek wtf, i hope he lost his memories and later on gonna remember his past by meeting someone important like Touka. |
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| Sasaki is having kaneki like nightmares?? Damn i wish that was enough to confirm the connection |
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DalPuri said: Hisoka ripoff? No. Just because they're both perverts doesn't mean he's a ripoff of Hisoka. I feel Tsukiyama developed a strong emotional attachment/ obsession with Kaneki that he just can't cut. Hisoka is far too flippant and sociopathic for that to ever happen to him. I don't really want to see Tsukiyama as Torso. Just let him suffer through his Kaneki obsession for all eternity. Its not because they are perverts, Part I Orochimaru was also a pervert but at the same time he was also a creep bastard. Hisokas obession for Gon was tolerable and somewhat funny, Tsukiyamas for Kaneki looks idiotic and gay. If Torso is Tsukiyama would mean Amon is serpent. |
| what does everybody think about this page? Page 19. i think it transitioned into Haise's dream. Is the Sasarious One dreamin' about Kaneki, like the way Kaneki dreamed of Rize? Also that was some dark inner dialogue between dream/Kaneki and Sasaki. Makes me way too excited for next chapter.  Also, I'm disappointed that I feel like Torso is no longer Tsukiyama, and that I'm not sure if that girl on the last page is Hinami. |
| glad its here! so kanae is a girl that looks like tsukiyama? maybe they are siblings? and she is worried about tsukiyama, in chapter 1 she said "oh sir shu, what a pity. for "you"to become like that." and she wanted a proof that kaneki is still alive by taking his belonging with his scent to present to shu tsukiyama so he will be back to normal.(?) anyways this proves that kaneki=sasaki. and the ex-kaneki group is somehow part of aogiri tree. |
| If anything in this life is certain, if history has taught us anything, it is that you can kill anyone |
| Camera girl wants Sasaki's belongings (underwater) so she can give them to her model? O.o Either it's Tsukiyama with his outlook changed or his long lost sister. XD Urie is a sly one; pretty much brainwashed Shirazu for his own benefit and already narrowed down Torso's possible identities. Sasarious's conversation with Donato revealed a lot about different natures of ghouls. That probably sparked some of his past memories (as a ghoul) a little. Now, what are the chances of Sasaki being Kaneki? I won't be surprised if he's actually someone else other than Kaneki, who also used to be a ghoul. The first one makes a lot more sense though. Who's that girl in the cab? Looks familiar. I hope it's neither Hinami or Touka.. |
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Shaniyaz said: Camera girl wants Sasaki's belongings (underwater) so she can give them to her model? O.o Either it's Tsukiyama with his outlook changed or his long lost sister. XD Urie is a sly one; pretty much brainwashed Shirazu for his own benefit and already narrowed down Torso's possible identities. Sasarious's conversation with Donato revealed a lot about different natures of ghouls. That probably sparked some of his past memories (as a ghoul) a little. Now, what are the chances of Sasaki being Kaneki? I won't be surprised if he's actually someone else other than Kaneki, who also used to be a ghoul. The first one makes a lot more sense though. Who's that girl in the cab? Looks familiar. I hope it's neither Hinami or Touka.. thee girl in the cab is Hinami im 99% sure but theres no chance thats touka lol we'd immediatly know if that was touka and i hope its kaneki cuz the main reason im reading/watching this manga thats cuz i love Ken character and ken was starting being badass. and now sasaki get trained by arima if thats ken i cant imagine how sasaki (ken) will be op when he recover his memories. but you know the mangaka is a troll x) so im not sure about nothing lol |
IlovepancakeOct 27, 2014 7:18 PM
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| It's kinda clear that Tsukiama's torso and is looking for any part of cloth that belongs to haise to compare the smell to kaneki's, his unforsaken love, desire, most precious dish. Nothing reallly special about this chapter despite the confirmation that torso seems to be indeed, tsukiama. Havin an alterego clinging on his back while sleeping seems reasonable, just like kaneki had Rise now we have Kaneki behind him, hope the next chapter sounds better. What bugs me the most is that Tsukiama and probably even touka etc, are under Aogiri tree's command now ¬¬ Want to know about pierrot asap. |
| Hell no, that girl can't be Hinami. Allying herself with Aogiri/Torso? For what purpose? She was so pure when she said she didn't even desire revenge on Mado for the death of her parents, and became one of my favourite characters in the Manga. I'd really hate it if that girl was gone... |
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Maledict said: Hell no, that girl can't be Hinami. Allying herself with Aogiri/Torso? For what purpose? She was so pure when she said she didn't even desire revenge on Mado for the death of her parents, and became one of my favourite characters in the Manga. I'd really hate it if that girl was gone... People change, and it's been a few years so who knows? And why was she with Ayato in the first chapter? Anteiku is pretty much disbanded after the events of Tokyo Ghoul, maybe she had nowhere to go. |
Acernos said: we also have another theory, that Sasaki has not lost the memories, I say this because I remembered now that Hide said Kaneki is a great actor, and the appearance of Shironeki may represent what he really thinks. dude thats insterresting, i kinda wanna believe this. and when sasaki said ''Looks like i have to teach those kids, what a serious sasaki is'' remind me kaneki when hes enraged. But why would he stay there if he still have his memories wouldnt kaneki escape to find hinami or touka-chan |
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| SASARIOUS...OMG Urie's hell bent on being the rebellious solo isn't he and Shirazu is manipulated pretty easily...I wonder why they're so against working under Kane-Sasaki also the prison head is super creepy. I wonder if Donato knows Amon has gone MIA? BUT THAT DREAM...the torment is real Also the guy at the end "torso" has a very different profile than that of the "model" Chie was talking about. and the model is most certainly Shuu...so then, who is Torso? |
CNTRI715 said: Maledict said: Hell no, that girl can't be Hinami. Allying herself with Aogiri/Torso? For what purpose? She was so pure when she said she didn't even desire revenge on Mado for the death of her parents, and became one of my favourite characters in the Manga. I'd really hate it if that girl was gone... People change, and it's been a few years so who knows? And why was she with Ayato in the first chapter? Anteiku is pretty much disbanded after the events of Tokyo Ghoul, maybe she had nowhere to go. She'd always have Touka, who already took care of her for a while in the past. There's got to be a reason why she's with Aogiri Tree right now. Maybe they're not even the bad guys anymore. |
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Acernos said: Because it was weakened by RC suppressors and if he rebel or flee will be hunted personally by Arima ? if you think, you can find some other possibilities, but it's all just theory, what we do know is that Sasaki knows that if he becomes useless will be discarded and that it is common to have dreams with Shironeki. ye maybe, i'd love to know more about Arima like his past, i hope they talk about it. |
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Ilovepancake said: Acernos said: Because it was weakened by RC suppressors and if he rebel or flee will be hunted personally by Arima ? if you think, you can find some other possibilities, but it's all just theory, what we do know is that Sasaki knows that if he becomes useless will be discarded and that it is common to have dreams with Shironeki. ye maybe, i'd love to know more about Arima like his past, i hope they talk about it. Tokyo Ghoul Jack my friend, go google it. It's a webcomic so the art style is pretty simplistic and not what you're used to with Tokyo Ghoul but the story does get pretty interesting. It follows Arima back when he first became an investigator in high school. |
CNTRI715Oct 27, 2014 11:50 PM
Maledict said: Hell no, that girl can't be Hinami. Allying herself with Aogiri/Torso? For what purpose? She was so pure when she said she didn't even desire revenge on Mado for the death of her parents, and became one of my favourite characters in the Manga. I'd really hate it if that girl was gone... do you kow how much kaneki changed in just 1 year? lol |
mbdsquad said: ninjastarforcex said: do you kow how much kaneki changed in just 1 year? lol She was with Touka's brother on the beginning of this continuation. Touka's brother is a member of Aogiri Tree. So there's a great chance that the girl is Hinami. And if you compared the girl called Hinami (colored) at chapter 1 and this chapter, the similarities is so high you can probably win a lottery. @chapter 3: See, did't I told you guys that Haise obtained Kaneki's flesh just like how Kaneki obtained Rize's. See those panels where Haise is dreaming? It's totally obvious that it's Kaneki. Black nails and whitish bob-cut hair. Same scenario with Rize talking to Kaneki. What else of an evidence do you guys need? You're simply in denial if you refuse to believe this. Not really Kaneki was hallucinating Rize because he was traumatized by her same with Yamori. What you are saying is like the twins also hallucinated Rize since they also had a piece of Rize inside them. I mean even Rize said i am in your head and Kaneki said they only reason he was strong was because in his mind Rize was poweful, ruthless etc..... IN HIS MIND NOT ANYONE ELSE'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| KANEKI IN HAISE'S DREAM. AND THE GIRL AT THE END. THAT IS ALL. |
| The world shall know the truth soon. |
| [quote=Acernos] Ilovepancake said: But why would he stay there if he still have his memories wouldnt kaneki escape to find hinami or touka-chan Because this may be his chance to create a bridge between humans and ghouls? Because it was weakened by RC suppressors and if he rebel or flee will be hunted personally by Arima ? if you think, you can find some other possibilities, but it's all just theory, what we do know is that Sasaki knows that if he becomes useless will be discarded and that it is common to have dreams with Shironeki. mbdsquad said: GinMagi said: Not really Kaneki was hallucinating Rize because he was traumatized by her same with Yamori. What you are saying is like the twins also hallucinated Rize since they also had a piece of Rize inside them. I mean even Rize said i am in your head and Kaneki said they only reason he was strong was because in his mind Rize was poweful, ruthless etc..... IN HIS MIND NOT ANYONE ELSE'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So you're argument is that if you're NOT traumatized then you can't see glimpses/dreams/hallucinations from whence your "ghoul self" came from? Debatable, but likely be false. Why? BECAUSE WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT, THERE'S A PHYSICAL EVIDENCE, DRAWN BY THE ARTIST, THAT IS SHOWN IN THIS CHAPTER, WHEREIN HAISE "DREAMT/HALLUCINATED" A 99% KANEKI LOOK-ALIKE. THAT IS AN IRREFUTABLE FACT. Your argument picks the short straw because it hangs whether Haise is traumatized by Kaneki or not. Shot fired |
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| I can already see urie getting his ass handed to him by Torso in a few chapters. It was nice to be able to see Sasaki's sasarious face. I don't blame mutsuki getting scared because Donato's rape face was terrifying. That dream kind of hints Kaneki doesn't have amnesia. I wonder what's his goal right now. |
LordPerucho said: ninjastarforcex said: why would ccg brainwashed hide when he already dead? Hides death shouldve been confirmed then, no point in dragging it out. Of course there might be, for instance: if Sasaki is Kaneki it should be him to find out (again) that he really ate his best friend and: 1) go crazy 2) hate even more his previous ghoul self? or something. And about Torso and other "new" ghouls... We have CCG right, and CCG has new unique squad. And then, we have Aogiri Tree... who got doc on their side... and in last chapter of TG it was said that sooo many investigators were MIA and they are considered dead because they were consumed on the battlefield. Sooo... would't it be nice twist of plot if Aogiri Tree made many of previous investigators into half-ghouls or other beings since they like to experiment :) Torso might be someone we know (other than Amon) but still with lingering human feelings. Can't help but think that they need Sasaki's scent because they themselves are not so sure about Sasaki's identity and his affiliations with Kaneki - just like us, readers. Even if Sasaki is Kaneki he was surely stripped off of great part of his ghoul powers. |
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