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| Sweet Jesus, that Archer/Lancer fight scene was freakin' spectacular. Damn, Ufotable, you crazy. DEEN:  Ufotable: [Too epic to be contained in a gif] |
apav said: Hello, I have a question for all of you knowledgeable folks who have played the VN and/or watched all of the series. I am a complete newcomer to this series, although I have done some research and now know a little bit. I am aware that this adaption follows the UBW route, while the 2006 anime follows the Fate route. I have heard that the 2006 anime was lackluster, and I don't really have the time to play the VN, so I was going to watch this instead of the 2006 anime. Since the UBW route is unlocked later in the game (and after much about the story and the world is explained), does that mean this anime isn't a good starting point for newcomers? Would I be missing anything by not playing the Fate route in the VN or by watching the 2006 anime? Like critical plot points, necessary backstory, ect? Rejoice, apav. For your queries shall be answered. If you really don't plan on reading the VN (although it's preferable to) you can go ahead and start with this. It is expected that ufotable will just incorporate some of the "critical points, necessary backstory" in this series. NEVER watch the 2006 anime since not only is it a VERY bad adaptation, but it spoils a lot about UBW and HF since it tried combining the three routes in one series (which is impossible). |
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apav said: you do not have to read the fate route but its recommended for characters and better understanding of things. it will take around 2 eps (two weeks) before anything actually changes in the the route. i think two weeks is enough time for you to read the fate route (took me like 5 days cuz im a slow reader)Hello, I have a question for all of you knowledgeable folks who have played the VN and/or watched all of the series. I am a complete newcomer to this series, although I have done some research and now know a little bit. I am aware that this adaptation follows the UBW route, while the 2006 anime follows the Fate route. I have heard that the 2006 anime is lackluster, and I don't really have the time to play the VN, so I was going to watch this instead of the 2006 anime. However since the UBW route is unlocked later in the game (and after much about the story and the world is explained), does that mean this anime isn't a good starting point for newcomers? Would I be missing anything by not playing the Fate route in the VN or by watching the 2006 anime? Like critical plot points, necessary backstory, ect? I understand each route follows a different character, but there has to be some plot advances to the overarching story in each route that is mentioned in other routes. Will I be okay starting here and going to Fate Zero when this anime finishes? |
apav said: Hello, I have a question for all of you knowledgeable folks who have played the VN and/or watched all of the series. I am a complete newcomer to this series, although I have done some research and now know a little bit. I am aware that this adaptation follows the UBW route, while the 2006 anime follows the Fate route. I have heard that the 2006 anime is lackluster, and I don't really have the time to play the VN, so I was going to watch this instead of the 2006 anime. However since the UBW route is unlocked later in the game (and after much about the story and the world is explained), does that mean this anime isn't a good starting point for newcomers? Would I be missing anything by not playing the Fate route in the VN or by watching the 2006 anime? Like critical plot points, necessary backstory, ect? I understand each route follows a different character, but there has to be some plot advances to the overarching story in each route that is mentioned in other routes. Will I be okay starting here and going to Fate Zero when this anime finishes? It's a bit early to tell whether you will need to understand events in the Fate route before proceeding to this adaptation of UBW. For the UBW movie, you DEFINITELY needed to have background knowledge of the VN or 2006 series to understand what was going on, because it explains almost nothing and the plot moves at constant fast forward. For this adaptation, it appears so far from the prologue that they are taking the time to explain many of the concepts, so you may not need to see any prior iterations to follow it, though really to be on the safe side you probably should. The hate for the 2006 adaptation is greatly over-exaggerated. It is a flawed anime for sure, but it is certainly watchable and introduces the characters and setting serviceably enough. If you really don't have the time for the VN, it's fine to watch that first. It's what introduced me to the universe and got me started on reading the VN and other anime adaptations. But understand that it's fairly different in tone and feel to the rest of the anime adaptations done by ufotable, so don't give up on F/SN if you don't like Deen's adaptation. You may still find the others more to your liking. |
kingcity20 said: Oh for the love of -_- nvm gotta love MAL |
| This was top quality, not only in animation, but how the story progressed, the characters were interesting right away for me. |
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| The 2006 DEEN version may cause lots of viewers to drop the current series next week a few minutes in, because their heads are infected with the mischaracterized experience of a certain character, which will autoamtically make them think that the same mischaracterization will happen again, because they just cannot believe that an anime studio can mess up so badly, as DEEN actually did. I called it. |
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fairypriest said: apav said: you do not have to read the fate route but its recommended for characters and better understanding of things. it will take around 2 eps (two weeks) before anything actually changes in the the route. i think two weeks is enough time for you to read the fate route (took me like 5 days cuz im a slow reader)Hello, I have a question for all of you knowledgeable folks who have played the VN and/or watched all of the series. I am a complete newcomer to this series, although I have done some research and now know a little bit. I am aware that this adaptation follows the UBW route, while the 2006 anime follows the Fate route. I have heard that the 2006 anime is lackluster, and I don't really have the time to play the VN, so I was going to watch this instead of the 2006 anime. However since the UBW route is unlocked later in the game (and after much about the story and the world is explained), does that mean this anime isn't a good starting point for newcomers? Would I be missing anything by not playing the Fate route in the VN or by watching the 2006 anime? Like critical plot points, necessary backstory, ect? I understand each route follows a different character, but there has to be some plot advances to the overarching story in each route that is mentioned in other routes. Will I be okay starting here and going to Fate Zero when this anime finishes? ^This. |
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Grey-Zone said: The 2006 DEEN version may cause lots of viewers to drop the current series next week a few minutes in, because their heads are infected with the mischaracterized experience of a certain character, which will autoamtically make them think that the same mischaracterization will happen again, because they just cannot believe that an anime studio can mess up so badly, as DEEN actually did. I called it. No problem at all: If there are people that want to drop, let them. Those mongrels are not worthy to enjoy the show. :P I'm more concern about Sakura's lack of characteristics. |
Just_ChickenOct 5, 2014 7:51 PM
| @ chickenonthepan You should tag that stuff..... |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
insan3priest said: @ chickenonthepan You should tag that stuff..... Ok, tagged. :p |
| Quite the epic fights. |
| i thought rins face was kinda effed up. the nose/mouth area from side profile was just weird as fuck i rated this as a 1 beause although its good, its definetly not 8.75 good |
NohbuddyOct 5, 2014 8:12 PM
| Kenjataimu mode status: 恒久 |
OnlyTemporary said: i thought rins face was kinda effed up. the nose/mouth area from side profile was just weird as fuck i rated this as a 1 beause although its good, its definetly not 8.75 good There are other numbers between 1 and 10, you know. |
| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
OnlyTemporary said: i thought rins face was kinda effed up. the nose/mouth area from side profile was just weird as fuck i rated this as a 1 beause although its good, its definetly not 8.75 good It's not 8.75, so it has to be 1. Legit... |
| im balancing the scales |
| Kenjataimu mode status: 恒久 |
OnlyTemporary said: im balancing the scales So, did the score go down? Futile effort... |
OnlyTemporary said: Oh man, thank you. Luckily there are people like you who are concerned with fixing scores they don't agree with instead of giving their honest opinion. The true MAL's saviour. Clearly the hero MAL deserves, but not the one it needs.i rated this as a 1 beause although its good, its definetly not 8.75 good Meanwhile, almost top 30..."overrated", "why such high ranking", "..." threads incoming. |
| The animation is superb as usual. Sasugaa ufotable. If only I didn't watch the movie version or this is Heaven Feel,I might look forward to this show more every week. |
ZapredonOct 5, 2014 9:11 PM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| GAR FOR GARCHER and then there were Rin's 23904589043 blushes |
| I don't like novels that end happily. They depress me so much. |
| Watched this episode 5 times, still can't get enough. |
| Red is the color of a hero |
| hype!!! the scale must go up! |
| Ive seen the Studio Deen verisons of both Fate and UBW. At the time I give it a solid 9/10, but that was because I didn't read the VN. Jump ahead a couple of years and I finally got around the reading VN. Prolly the best use of a months time reading I've ever had! It was like my mind exploded on how much story the VN had and how much of it Deen left out and what they added in. I understand Fate was about Saber and there was tender moments between her and Shiro that were only in UBW, but they felt out of place in the Fate story. So yeah, because of that I downgraded the score of the show to whatever it is now (don't remember what it is ATM). Because I felt the adaptation didn't do the source material any justice. And added UBW scenes that didn't belong in Fate in the first place made it a jumbled mess. Deen gave themselves 26 episodes to tell the story, but they chopped so much off they had to borrow from another route to have some sort of plot. I won't even go into the mess that was the UBW movie.. So for people new to FSN, I'd suggest read the VN and watch this show and any doubts of 2006 repeating will be put to rest. Given ufotable track record and how they handle the adaptation of the prologue, I'm confident the series is in good hands. |
| I watched this with the intent of keeping up with discussions. Then I fanboyed. This is gonna be a long few months. |
Shocked said: I watched this with the intent of keeping up with discussions. Then I fanboyed. This is gonna be a long few months. hahaha that's awesome :) Welcome to the fate series! My weeks are going to be really slow now... I wouldn't be surprised if I started dreaming about it anytime soon. :C |
| 10:49 Kotomine!!! 20:22 dat tsundere "Hmphh..!!!" 9.5/10 for this prologue. Awesome action. |
| Isayama Hajime should be awarded The Manga with The Highest Inconsistencies of Characters' Appearances. He keeps performing multiple plastic surgeries on those Shingeki No Kyojin characters in a SINGLE chapter. Yes, I've read up to the latest chapter of Shingeki No Kyojin manga. Forced myself to read through the kidsketching chapters after the anime's ended. At least from now on, I only have to go through the hell once a month. Patiently awaiting SNK TV/movie/OVA anime-sequel. The 2015 SNK live-action movie would probably suck. |
CookingPriest said: FakePriest said: it is funny because she is wrong. mirakura said: Still, it's a pretty awkward statement when he just did something amazing. It's obvious it's translation mistake cos a genius wouldn't continue a sentence like that... Not really. She is being sarcastic, which ARcher picks up seconds latter. The translation is accurate. Its just way too literal to portray the sarcasm. OnlyTemporary said: i thought rins face was kinda effed up. the nose/mouth area from side profile was just weird as fuck i rated this as a 1 beause although its good, its definetly not 8.75 good OnlyTemporary said: Even Shinji would do better.im balancing the scales |
ssjokgOct 5, 2014 11:30 PM
| Caught up on the thread. A lot of interesting discussions. I really do feel bad for non-VN readers because they may never see a proper adaptation of the Fate route for a while. It sounded like to me that Heaven's Feel would be ufotable's last Fate project for some time (it would also be sweet if they animated Hollow Ataraxia eventually, but that's besides the point). Maybe they're holding some cards to their chest so surprise people about a Fate adaptation, but I'm not keeping my hopes up. The only other studio that I would want to animate the Fate route would be Madhouse since they have a good budget and tend to stay faithful to the source material with their adaptations. Still, I'm hoping that Fate gets animated by ufotable one day. |
rladls717 said: Rin classmates are no different from Iliya's classmates it seems. Issei's oppositions against Rin, just like Luvia it will never bore me. Very different. Issei doesnt like her methods but he understands why she does what she does. |
| The holy grail war rules are probably my most read/heard rules of all time. That probably goes for a lot of people in here... This episode, it delivers. When this and Kaleid start airing at the same time, I'm gonna laugh my ass off. KanjiKano said: Looks like this + tokyo ghoul win 2014. No, just.. no. Don't ever mention TG again, even as a joke. I swear to god. |
kickmesignOct 6, 2014 12:53 AM
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kickmesign said: The holy grail war rules are probably my most read/heard rules of all time. That probably goes for a lot of people in here... This episode, it delivers. When this and Kaleid start airing at the same time, I'm gonna laugh my ass off. They won't, though. 2wei will be back for the Winter season while F/SN will take a break then until Spring. OnlyTemporary said: i rated this as a 1 beause although its good, its definetly not 8.75 good Such stupid reasoning. |
| I've been wondering, I believe episode 1 should had been aired already and if I'm not mistaken, this episode 0 is separated from the actual airing date(Episode 1). Is this a mistake? Dunois said: October 5 Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) ufotable Action, Fantasy, Magic, Shounen, Supernatural If not, then I'll wait for next week? |
TennoujiOct 6, 2014 1:23 AM
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Tennouji_ said: I've been wondering, I believe episode 1 should had been aired already and if I'm not mistaken, this episode 0 is separated from the actual airing date(Episode 1). Is this a mistake? Dunois said: October 5 Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) ufotable Action, Fantasy, Magic, Shounen, Supernatural If not, so I'll wait for next week? this episode 0 actually is the first episode of the whole series so it's not wrong, MAL just separated this entry |
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silverwalls said: this episode 0 actually is the first episode of the whole series so it's not wrong, MAL just separated this entry I see. Thanks for clarifying. |
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FakePriest said: rladls717 said: Rin classmates are no different from Iliya's classmates it seems. Issei's oppositions against Rin, just like Luvia it will never bore me. Very different. Issei doesn't like her methods but he understands why she does what she does. Actually the classmates kind of are similar, intentionally, if we are to ignore Issei comparison. And yeah, holy fuck is this hyping me up for second half of 2wei, as weird as it sounds. |
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LoomyTheBrew said: Caught up on the thread. A lot of interesting discussions. I really do feel bad for non-VN readers because they may never see a proper adaptation of the Fate route for a while. It sounded like to me that Heaven's Feel would be ufotable's last Fate project for some time (it would also be sweet if they animated Hollow Ataraxia eventually, but that's besides the point). Maybe they're holding some cards to their chest so surprise people about a Fate adaptation, but I'm not keeping my hopes up. The only other studio that I would want to animate the Fate route would be Madhouse since they have a good budget and tend to stay faithful to the source material with their adaptations. Still, I'm hoping that Fate gets animated by ufotable one day. I'd be down with an Fate adaptation in the future. Of course I'd like for them to include the epilogue from Realta Nua as a proper ending and closure for all the Saber fans (myself included). |
| 32 people hated this? Seriously? Rin looks great as a Tsundere, and i'm usually not too fond of these kinda of characters. |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
FlareStar101 said: 32 people hated this? Seriously? It's just random trolls or people who can't stand it when others really enjoy something. No one in their right mind would give something like this a score of 1 or whatever. Nothing in it makes it deserve that. Even if you despise, for example, the storytelling (for whatever reason...)... who could possibly say that the fight scene near the end was not fun to watch? Something like that alone would make it deserve more. Not to mention the animation quality for the vast majority of the episode. A fairly low/average score is understandable. Because maybe this type of anime is generally not to their taste. Maybe they thought some things were flaws instead of strengths. But a 1? Or even a 2? Hating everything about it? Nope. |
moeanao said: It's about 15-20 hours per route, smth like 50-60 in total, which in anime-time would be about 150 episodes. If you can watch long running shounen you can read this :>The animation is fucking amazing. I haven't read the visual novel, I don't think I ever will. It's so long... |
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FOR THAT GODLIKE FIGHT ANIMATION HOLY SHIT10/10 |
StefanHereOct 6, 2014 5:11 AM
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StefanHere said: FOR THAT GODLIKE FIGHT ANIMATION HOLY SHIT10/10 Apart from obviously being wrongSpoiler that shit. |
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| This is not, the greatest anime, in the world. This is just a prologue. |
LoomyTheBrew said: Chaos;HeadCaught up on the thread. A lot of interesting discussions. I really do feel bad for non-VN readers because they may never see a proper adaptation of the Fate route for a while. It sounded like to me that Heaven's Feel would be ufotable's last Fate project for some time (it would also be sweet if they animated Hollow Ataraxia eventually, but that's besides the point). Maybe they're holding some cards to their chest so surprise people about a Fate adaptation, but I'm not keeping my hopes up. The only other studio that I would want to animate the Fate route would be Madhouse since they have a good budget and tend to stay faithful to the source material with their adaptations. Still, I'm hoping that Fate gets animated by ufotable one day. Mahou Sensou Death Note's second arc Mahouka etc. |
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| F***ing Epic, cool that action in rooftop and magic shit totally love the prologue :3 damn looks like 3D. MORE!!! |
| Skill 1 - Mask Maker. Skill 2 - Binding Spell. Skill 3 - Conceal Darkness. Skill 4 - Mind Shield.. |
BotatoPriest said: LoomyTheBrew said: Chaos;HeadCaught up on the thread. A lot of interesting discussions. I really do feel bad for non-VN readers because they may never see a proper adaptation of the Fate route for a while. It sounded like to me that Heaven's Feel would be ufotable's last Fate project for some time (it would also be sweet if they animated Hollow Ataraxia eventually, but that's besides the point). Maybe they're holding some cards to their chest so surprise people about a Fate adaptation, but I'm not keeping my hopes up. The only other studio that I would want to animate the Fate route would be Madhouse since they have a good budget and tend to stay faithful to the source material with their adaptations. Still, I'm hoping that Fate gets animated by ufotable one day. Mahou Sensou Death Note's second arc Mahouka etc. Gantz Claymore fuck madhouse |
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Racaholic said: Greatest prologue in the world then?This is not, the greatest anime, in the world. This is just a prologue. |
FragOutFire said: Why am I a Berserk fan? All I ever experience is pain. We are in the eclipse and Miura has sacrificed us |
FlareStar101 said: Fate/carls bergRacaholic said: Greatest prologue in the world then?This is not, the greatest anime, in the world. This is just a prologue. |
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