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Dec 7, 2013 8:44 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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watching this live right now. Wait, I see touma is getting teary.
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Great to see Touma again!

Gotta love how Haruki tries this episode to unite them together again at least one last time. Dat tears. Dat song. Dat drama.

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watching this live right now. Wait, I see touma is getting teary.


Odd, why did you edit your entire post? It looked nothing like this originally. You mentioned something about NTR and something else that I couldn't remember.
Dec 7, 2013 8:59 AM
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Odd, why did you edit your entire post?


shh. I typed it while watching with expectations in mind, and by the time I posted it, the producers mysteriously decided to postpone things. It would be spoilers if I mention what happened now.
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Oh so you went with expectations of what might air rather than what actually aired.
Dec 7, 2013 9:03 AM
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Oh so you went with expectations rather than what actually aired.


well, I was pretty sure they'll show it after the Touma crying scene at roughly 0:41AM here. hehe not sure what they're thinking. It's like they saw my post lol.


back to sleep, looks like I stayed up until now for nothing, at least managed to steal stark's usual first post. I apologize for the mild spoilers, but it'll be mentioned sooner or later in this thread anyway.
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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watching this live right now. Wait, I see touma is getting teary. And they skipped the most important part of all, looks like I'll have to save my rant for now.


Meaning, "that 'you know what' scene" will be on the next episode?


Dec 7, 2013 9:18 AM
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Know any anime websites that shows the raw episode at this moment? I missed the live stream, the video had to not work at that time......gahhh
Dec 7, 2013 9:28 AM
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Tennouji_ said:
edwd2 said:
THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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watching this live right now. Wait, I see touma is getting teary. And they skipped the most important part of all, looks like I'll have to save my rant for now.


Meaning, "that 'you know what' scene" will be on the next episode?


yes after the dragger flashbacks, i suppose.
Dec 7, 2013 9:53 AM
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No offense this episode was so poor in drawing. So many inconsistencies and asymmetrical figures that is very noticeable.
Dec 7, 2013 10:07 AM

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I remember when all the flashbacks broke up this scene in the VN....oh wait...

That should've been done at the end of the episode rather than at the beginning, sigh.
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As expected, it's going Touma's way. Poor Setsuna :( felt bad for her being alone like that.

The flashbacks from Touma's pov were nice though (This weeks had three different pov's...LB, Kyoukan and now this hehe).

I wonder how this will go after the Touma breakdown at the start of the ep? Haruki obviously still has feelings for her being surprised that she likes him. Hope if it happens and he changes, it's done nicely because I don't want to see Setsuna getting hurt (which she obviously will D:)

All I can say is RIP Haruki...Setsuna and her boat are waiting :P XD
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I gotta say I was impressed with this episode. I was a Setsuna fan and was hoping Haruki would end up with her but i have now changed my mind. I really feel that there is a deeper connection between Touma and Haruki. They have more history together and that flashback from Touma's perspective really revealed what she was going through and thinking. At this point, I feel like Touma has had more development as a character and seems to have better chemistry with Haruki. I haven't read the visual novel but from what I have seen so far, I believe Touma and Haruki are better together despite my inner fandom of hoping that Setsuna will win. Anyways, this is definitely a much better show than I expected. I'm not usually a fan of romance/drama anime but this show has got me hooked.
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Feel bad for Setsuna :(

Those tears from Touma.Most of the episode was a flashback of how they both met. Man gotta wait next week for the next episode. Getting bad vibes of what's gonna happen next.
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Love the flashback and how Touma actually told Haruki she likes him :D cant wait for the next ep ^.^ although i think they missed Setsuna's party ? I wonder who Haruki will end up with *^* ...HarukixTouma ftw ^^
Dec 7, 2013 12:20 PM

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I am a super Touma fan.... I hope they ended up together. I don't like scheming girl, Setsuna.

This ep was really touched, when Touma said haruki was stupid, I was like, awww.....LOL.

If haruki really likes touma, it'd be really rude to setsuna if he decided to go back with setsuna, if he didn't end up with touma.
Dec 7, 2013 12:52 PM

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I am a super Touma fan.... I hope they ended up together. I don't like scheming girl, Setsuna.



How is she scheming? If you mean scheming in the sense that she wanted Touma to confess to Haruki, then yeah, but otherwise she's giving Touma every chance she can to confess to Haruki.

Honestly I like Touma and Setsuna both but Setsuna is the one I'm rooting for so this episode really hurt. I'm fairly sure Haruki and Touma are going to end up together though.
Dec 7, 2013 12:58 PM

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Cliché much?
Score down to 6/10.
Dec 7, 2013 1:06 PM

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Rooting for Touma all the way
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Laciie said:
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I am a super Touma fan.... I hope they ended up together. I don't like scheming girl, Setsuna.



How is she scheming? If you mean scheming in the sense that she wanted Touma to confess to Haruki, then yeah, but otherwise she's giving Touma every chance she can to confess to Haruki.


You mean she knew Haruki liked touma, but still kissed him and wanted him to go out with her isn't scheming then she's really innocent or just acting innocent. As for guys, they mostly go with the flow. Setsuna is practically throwing herself at him from the start.

Although relationship is never fair, she's not fit to call Touma her best friend. That's cheating. Acting ignorant of both Touma and haruki's feelings for each other, but keep saying wanted 3 of them to be together. How cruel. Just wanted Touma to suffer each time. Touma was right in not going to the party though. Setsuna's interpretation of "best friends" is really different.

Also, she lied about the party with others, but just herself and haruki. Lying your way through is the worst way in a relationship.

Or she left early when they were with others, but meeting up Haruki elsewhere alone....Haa...

Setsuna was never honest in this relationship, except the fact that she liked Haruki.

Nevertheless, it is sad for setsuna. If haruki is with her, what she gets in the end will never be haruki real love.
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Damn Touma confessing like that was cool and all but somehow it didn't move me at all something was off. Would still like to see Touma triumph though. Her school years seem very lonely. Still, feel bad for Setsuna though.


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Even though most of the episode was composed of flashbacks, I loved it. This helps us understand Touma a little more. She has know Haruki for a while before the story started, and finally now she's confessing her feelings.
She couldn't keep up the charade anymore.

Great episode!
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I feel bad for Setsuna, why creators must show her when she is sad and alone... ;(

Sorry, but Touma with her "why you haven't noticed!?" is ao stupid!
Like how Haruki could noticed when she don't act like she like him?
He aren't stupid! She just don't show it!

Sorry, but after this episode I have hope for Setsuna/Haruki!
Dec 7, 2013 1:35 PM
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That tear-jerk.... well, im not wrong to place this anime as my #1 romance-anime for this year. This eps's rlly hit me. that confession, that fact, that flashback. love this drama-romance.

And, its already 10th eps, 3 more eps and its done. So, im still wondering. would there be a 2nd season like 1st WA or not. well, I wish i can play the VN as the spoiler, unfortunately i dont hv a time to play it. Since im still not use with kanji, so i need to wait the English Ver but the translation isnt finish yet. >.>
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The confrontation between haruki and Touma made me a bit teary. Good episode. Enjoyed the flashback how they began interacting. Only a matter time till Haruki takes ahold of his feelings for Touma and ends it with setsuna I believe..
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The confrontation between haruki and Touma made me a bit teary. Good episode. Enjoyed the flashback how they began interacting. Only a matter time till Haruki takes ahold of his feelings for Touma and ends it with setsuna I believe..


Any proof o;
Well I mean, I've got a bad vibe about the HarukixSetsuna right now after watching this episode. I'd also like to mention that the cover art for WA2 is a picture of HarukixTouma for the new episodes from Animefushigi.
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I'd also like to mention that the cover art for WA2 is a picture of HarukixTouma for the new episodes from Animefushigi.

You mean this picture http://www.zerochan.net/911062 ?
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All the feelings have exploded. Finally Kazusa told Haruki... he sure is getting on the nerves of the viewers especially me.
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Touma finally confessed to Kitahara! When Touma said "That's not something my best friend's boyfriend should be allowed to say to me!", I was like "OMG! This is it! This is it!". And when she said "What's wrong with me liking a loser?!", I was like "Daaaaawwwwwww. :3"

I'm obviously a hardcore Touma fan so for me this episode is really good. The flashbacks are good too since we were able to see more of Touma's personality and how her relationship with Kitahara developed. When she was criticizing Kitahara's guitar playing, I lol'd at her reaction when he replied "Everybody who's never done it before says that." I was like "WTF?! Haruki, you're talking to a musical genius! Lololol." Looking forward to the next ep. I wonder if they'll come to Setsuna's party. I kinda feel bad for her because she's a nice character too. Only 3 episodes left. I think it's about time to say this, I DEMAND SEASON 2! :)
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Fantastic episode. Best confession scene of the season.
Not sure why there needed to be those flashbacks
Dec 7, 2013 2:20 PM
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heiqi1hu said:
Laciie said:
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I am a super Touma fan.... I hope they ended up together. I don't like scheming girl, Setsuna.



How is she scheming? If you mean scheming in the sense that she wanted Touma to confess to Haruki, then yeah, but otherwise she's giving Touma every chance she can to confess to Haruki.


You mean she knew Haruki liked touma, but still kissed him and wanted him to go out with her isn't scheming then she's really innocent or just acting innocent. As for guys, they mostly go with the flow. Setsuna is practically throwing herself at him from the start.

Although relationship is never fair, she's not fit to call Touma her best friend. That's cheating. Acting ignorant of both Touma and haruki's feelings for each other, but keep saying wanted 3 of them to be together. How cruel. Just wanted Touma to suffer each time. Touma was right in not going to the party though. Setsuna's interpretation of "best friends" is really different.

Also, she lied about the party with others, but just herself and haruki. Lying your way through is the worst way in a relationship.

Or she left early when they were with others, but meeting up Haruki elsewhere alone....Haa...

Setsuna was never honest in this relationship, except the fact that she liked Haruki.

Nevertheless, it is sad for setsuna. If haruki is with her, what she gets in the end will never be haruki real love.


i suppose you want her to act like every other anime heroine and suppress her feelings for the sake of a friend and wait until the other two got together. instead she told that friend that she will make her move and that she should make hers so that haruki himself will choose. at this point touma lied to setsuna about her feelings and threw away every chance she had. if setsuna was really scheming she wouldn't allow them to spend time at all. she also doesn't shove her relationship in touma's face. about the party she invited both of them not just haruki. touma simply skipped without prior notice. this show is one of the best romance anime i have seen, with characters that are truly likable and it came right after the despicable kimi no iru machi.
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Touma finally confessed. Haruki is hiding some feelings for her as well. The flashbacks completely shows that Touma began to like Haruki. But she was forced to keep her distance from him. I hope that Setsuna won't take it really hard if she and Haruki end their relationship because I know that she knows Touma has feelings for Haruki. Great episode by the way.
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Been rooting for Kazusa, but I just feel that the Setsuna-Haruki ship will be the one that will arrive to its destination.
I just feel it's gonna be a bittersweet ending, with Touma heading to Europe

On the brightside, at least it's not because he didn't choose her, but because of their situation
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Kazusa wanted to end things quietly but 2 things made this impossible

1) Haruki kept pestering her despite her repeated warning that Haruki should only focus on his girlfriend
2) Haruki learned about her departure prematurely from her mother
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I like Touma and this really pushed towards her. I have to agree with Haruki though. It was hard for him to tell if she liked him as the guy. She tried pushing him away repeatedly, and could have just been honest with him. Which led to this whole problem to begin with.

Now though I feel for Setsuna. She's going to end up the one caught in the middle and the one left out when she wanted to keep everyone together.

Nobody has even shown up for her birthday yet.
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After watching this episode I rewatched the beginning of episode 1 remembering there were a few flash forwards and it looked to me like:


All aboard the feels train. Can't wait for next week's episode!
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After watching this episode I rewatched the beginning of episode 1 remembering there were a few flash forwards and it looked to me like:


All aboard the feels train. Can't wait for next week's episode!


I'm curious on why they actually spoiled the ending right from the first episode. Which is why I wonder why anyone is even curious on how this ends.
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That was an intense yet somehow mildly executed episode. I am wondering, Does the source material have the same impact (for those who were able to play) or was it more intensified compared to this adaptation? Just Curious.

Looks like this is now the shitstorm that i was referring to last week. Dat Tears. Dat Touma in Tears. Dat Drama. Didn't expect her to cry like that. Both of them were even crying. I don't understand why Haruki was crying though. It was good but I was expecting a flawless scene however, the good thing is the execution was not horrible to watch. Still, was a good watch. One of the few gems in the romance genre indeed.

Anyways, Looks like Setsuna will be in pain in the next few episodes to come. I really feel bad for her since it's going for a Kasuza route I presume?

Still rooting for Touma though. But I like both of the heroines. Haruki is a total dick sometimes.
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That was an intense yet somehow mildly executed episode. I am wondering, Does the source material have the same impact (for those who were able to play) or was it more intensified compared to this adaptation? Just Curious.

Looks like this is now the shitstorm that i was referring to last week. Dat Tears. Dat Touma in Tears. Dat Drama. Didn't expect her to cry like that. Both of them were even crying. I don't understand why Haruki was crying though. It was good but I was expecting a flawless scene however, the good thing is the execution was not horrible to watch. Still, was a good watch. One of the few gems in the romance genre indeed.

Anyways, Looks like Setsuna will be in pain in the next few episodes to come. I really feel bad for her since it's going for a Kasuza route I presume?

Still rooting for Touma though. But I like both of the heroines. Haruki is a total dick sometimes.


It doesn't have the same impact because they interrupted the scene with flashbacks, which didn't happen in the VN. Basically they are making the scene a lot more melodramatic than it already is.

Haruki cries because he's just a whiny little b**** in general. Get used to it haha.
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hyperknees91 said:
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After watching this episode I rewatched the beginning of episode 1 remembering there were a few flash forwards and it looked to me like:


All aboard the feels train. Can't wait for next week's episode!


I'm curious on why they actually spoiled the ending right from the first episode. Which is why I wonder why anyone is even curious on how this ends.


Most people probably don't remember that scene, since it was like 3 minutes into the start of the series. It was also very brief, like 5 seconds long. I had to rewatch it a couple of times to see what was going on.

Also, when Haruki says "Are you really the Touma Kazusa I admired?" is probably a reference to their conversation after the concert.
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hyperknees91 said:
pizza_012 said:
That was an intense yet somehow mildly executed episode. I am wondering, Does the source material have the same impact (for those who were able to play) or was it more intensified compared to this adaptation? Just Curious.

Looks like this is now the shitstorm that i was referring to last week. Dat Tears. Dat Touma in Tears. Dat Drama. Didn't expect her to cry like that. Both of them were even crying. I don't understand why Haruki was crying though. It was good but I was expecting a flawless scene however, the good thing is the execution was not horrible to watch. Still, was a good watch. One of the few gems in the romance genre indeed.

Anyways, Looks like Setsuna will be in pain in the next few episodes to come. I really feel bad for her since it's going for a Kasuza route I presume?

Still rooting for Touma though. But I like both of the heroines. Haruki is a total dick sometimes.


It doesn't have the same impact because they interrupted the scene with flashbacks, which didn't happen in the VN. Basically they are making the scene a lot more melodramatic than it already is.

Haruki cries because he's just a whiny little b**** in general. Get used to it haha.


I actually found that weird for him to cry? Lol. I was like. WTF Really Haruki. Instead of comforting Touma, He also cried like a little boy whining 'cause he lost something. He looked really Gay there. No offense.
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hyperknees91 said:
jawnmewn said:
After watching this episode I rewatched the beginning of episode 1 remembering there were a few flash forwards and it looked to me like:


All aboard the feels train. Can't wait for next week's episode!


I'm curious on why they actually spoiled the ending right from the first episode. Which is why I wonder why anyone is even curious on how this ends.


I'm just as curious as to why they showed a spoiler of the ending in the first few minutes of the first episode. We all know the result, but how they get there is still unfolding. Another thing that bugs me is how will Haruki feel at the end of the series.


I think Closing chapter should be animated because I'd like to see what happens afterward if the VN CC gets animated and if possible Coda as well.

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aww shiet.
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Yeah hopefully the main problem is they have to choose an ending to animate for one of those (or just make ova's of the alternate ending). Such is the shame of visual novel adaptions.
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Yeah hopefully the main problem is they have to choose an ending to animate for one of those (or just make ova's of the alternate ending). Such is the shame of visual novel adaptions.


Quite the irritating truth about VN's. Every route isn't given any justice to be animated. Sucks Balls.
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Yeah hopefully the main problem is they have to choose an ending to animate for one of those (or just make ova's of the alternate ending). Such is the shame of visual novel adaptions.


If CC and Coda are adapted, the obvious choices are Setsuna True Ending or Touma True Ending.
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Yeah hopefully the main problem is they have to choose an ending to animate for one of those (or just make ova's of the alternate ending). Such is the shame of visual novel adaptions.


If CC and Coda are adapted, the obvious choices are Setsuna True Ending or Touma True Ending.


Well yeah but that is the question. Which route do they pick out of those two?

Or they could do the normal ending like the guy said above haha.
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Even though most of the episode was composed of flashbacks, I loved it. This helps us understand Touma a little more. She has know Haruki for a while before the story started, and finally now she's confessing her feelings.
She couldn't keep up the charade anymore.

Great episode!

People should know to use the word flashback appropriately. Nothing can be considered as "flashback" if they contribute to the story and character development. This episode they show Touma's POV and her past which lead her to meet Haruki. By that we should all know that she was the "first girl", has deeper connections and Setsuna is the third person here.

Oh well, I like Setsuna and rooting for her, but at the same time I have sympathy for Touma as well ;_;. Such a hard feelings to chose between the two.

Anyway, things gonna get worst for Setsuna, no doubt. Damn u Haruki ...
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Too much Touma but know know, some people will be happy I guess.
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Well that was a rather explosive but needed confrontation for Touma and Haruki. We got to learn more about Touma and Haruki's characters as well by seeing how they interacted with each other in the past. While I feel that Touma and Haruki would have been better together rather than Setsuna, I still feel bad for her since it's her birthday and she's spending it alone instead of with her boyfriend, friend or her family.
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