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Sep 20, 2013 1:33 PM

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What...Junko being the culprit totally surprised me..So did the real Junko go to school with them and after they all got amnesia Mukuro took her place and pretended to be her? I'm a little bit confused..

Sep 20, 2013 1:40 PM

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kittyn said:
What...Junko being the culprit totally surprised me..So did the real Junko go to school with them and after they all got amnesia Mukuro took her place and pretended to be her? I'm a little bit confused..
Wait for the next episode, in Junko's class trials there's a lot of explanations going on. (referring to game) :P
Sep 20, 2013 1:40 PM

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A little confession: Ever since Episode 4(?) where "Junko" (AKA Mukuro) got killed... Was fooled all of this time that Junko is "Junko".. But Sakura mentioning about the magazines give a useless hint. (Though it helped that I had to Wiki things 'cause spoilers are everywhere.)

Now that she was revealed, the trials with the real Junko should be really fun.. (Yes probably in a ironic way since it's a matter of LIFE AND DEATH!) But oh man...

NOW I want to know the cast BEFORE they got amnesia... :(



So... Yea... Things are getting stupidly twisted and ONE MORE EPISODE LEFT!!!!! AAHHHHHH!!!!!

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Sep 20, 2013 1:50 PM

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Did not expect Junko to come back. The plot twist~
Sep 20, 2013 2:21 PM

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I kept going OMG and gasping. Dat revelation 0 [] 0 Mind blowing!!!! The finale is next week. I will be gasping and OMG that episode too : 0
Sep 20, 2013 2:26 PM
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The amnesia thing was obvious since the time Alter Ego dug out that one picture, but woah, never expected it to be Junko. I mean I didn't even remember who she was since she "died" so early on. Nice twist :) So the real reason they were all there was because it was supposed to be a place where they live communally or something, and perhaps for forever, but then Junko took out the principal and changed everything? No wonder they all said yes in the interview.
Sep 20, 2013 2:34 PM

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This episode was pretty solid compared to the previous few. They handled the plot twist pretty well IMO. Junko is awesome btw. Looking forward to Finale.
Sep 20, 2013 2:39 PM
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tsubasalover said:
Final level is now accessible, but it's all broken. No OP. "Kyoko" as password as hidden door? Principle's skull in a box? Video of everyone? meeting him? A door that can only be accessible with Principle's pass. A photo of everyone including short hair girl, but without the person who got the photo. Monokuma vs. the main guy for the trial. That twin tail silver girl's face getting blocked is the real one, because the face is different. And she appeared.

Please use their names. You post these summaries in every topic I go to, and they are so confusing!
Sep 20, 2013 3:01 PM

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Holy shit it was Junko all along, and her twin sis is Mukuro, so she killed her sister at the beginning. daaaaaaamn.

Great episode, but the second part were just Monokuma and Naegi going at it, others were kinda useless.

Can't wait for the finale, hope to find out why Junko is doing all of this.
Sep 20, 2013 3:09 PM

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timerrabbit said:

NOW I want to know the cast BEFORE they got amnesia... :(



not really a spoiler but to be safe

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Sep 20, 2013 4:20 PM

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ok episode but AMNESIA???? oh please..that was just cheap.

3/5

What are you talking about? It was foreshadowed since Yamada's death and his near-death crazy talk
Sep 20, 2013 4:46 PM

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Did Junko really fuk herself? like im confused if she wanted to get caught or not with the taking out the plug during her interview and then passing the pictures of her face hidden. Like why would you give them something so obvious...did she want to make it more fair or was that just a stupid moment. She even let them discuss the pictures in the trial which means the pictures weren't suppose to make them distrust each other. MONOBEAR YOUR TOO SMART FOR THIS!!!!
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Sep 20, 2013 5:51 PM

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Junko <33333333
Sep 20, 2013 6:27 PM

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Awful. The final trial lasts around 3 hours in the game. You cannot condense that into an episode and a half and expect it to be good. Rushed as beyond all hell.

And this is actually the first time I'm complaining. They had done a somewhat-decent job up to now, but this is just awful.

I shouldn't have played the game.
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Sep 20, 2013 7:00 PM
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Well, am a tad bit surprised with Junko, but I kind of felt it at the 1st-2nd quarter of the episode.
Sep 20, 2013 7:17 PM
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designer sure like long tongues >:P
Sep 20, 2013 7:34 PM

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Well... i knew it 'coz she's very suspicious at the beginning of first episode and she died early nothing special.. the plot twist sucks

Sep 20, 2013 7:40 PM
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Wasn't expecting that. All right, all right Junko, I see you lol
Sep 20, 2013 7:46 PM
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I love those group pictures :D (I wish I could see all clearly.) That laugh in the end ♥
And yeah, Kirigiri's dad was very good looking ;D, too bad he was executed :(

I CAN'T FREAKIN' WAIT FOR THE NEXT LAST DAMN EPISODE XD
Sep 20, 2013 8:09 PM

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That reveal was beautiful.
I'm so excited for the next episode, it'll be a blast.

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^The real reason Leon's punishment was the most severe.

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Sep 20, 2013 8:12 PM

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Never expected that Junko is the mastermind. Well done.
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Sep 20, 2013 8:54 PM

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Holy smokes. Junko-chan is alive! I can't wait to figure out the truth behind the amnesia and why they are sheltered in the first place.
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Sep 20, 2013 8:58 PM

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Sep 20, 2013 9:00 PM

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sarroush said:
Awful. The final trial lasts around 3 hours in the game. You cannot condense that into an episode and a half and expect it to be good. Rushed as beyond all hell.
incorrect, chapter 6 is the shortest chapter in the game only clocking in at about a hour and half in totall, 30-40 min of it goes to the investigation while the other hour goes to the trial, ending, and credits, mainly due to alot of long pauses is the final trial really dragged out.

CodeZwei said:
Did Junko really fuk herself? like im confused if she wanted to get caught or not with the taking out the plug during her interview and then passing the pictures of her face hidden. Like why would you give them something so obvious...did she want to make it more fair or was that just a stupid moment. She even let them discuss the pictures in the trial which means the pictures weren't suppose to make them distrust each other. MONOBEAR YOUR TOO SMART FOR THIS!!!!

she really couldnt care less if she gets caught or not, it'll make more sense come next episode when a shit ton of plot points are answered
JizzyHitlerSep 20, 2013 9:04 PM

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Sep 20, 2013 9:19 PM

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Nishiura said:
http://i.imgur.com/2vcsSaj.jpg New group pic
and Junko <3


bless you for this omg, thank you for high quality picture. I had to pause during this because i was a mess. It always gets me real happy to see them together in these pictures and getting this new one has made everything better. They have left out several of my favorite parts in the anime but this totally made up for it.
Sep 20, 2013 9:37 PM

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now then, i just hope they don't screw the last part... the climax needs to be more interesting than the game >.<
Sep 20, 2013 9:56 PM

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hm i always thought something was up when they killed her off like nothing


but the whole amnesia thing didn't come as a surprise i mean i thought they all already knew that from the start lol.
Sep 20, 2013 9:58 PM

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That amnesia story is asspulled for me. Its like FFVII advert children LOL
Sep 20, 2013 10:02 PM

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Well, I, for one, did NOT see that coming.
*facepalm*
Sep 20, 2013 10:08 PM

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I was not expecting it to be her, but I also didn't really care, which is the biggest problem of this series, it just couldn't make me care about the characters.
Sep 20, 2013 10:11 PM

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Monobear is the best thing of this series, he's so hillarious
Sep 20, 2013 10:19 PM

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Damn that crazy bitch.
Sep 20, 2013 10:23 PM

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i cant wait for ep.13!, I want to see Junko in action XD


Sep 20, 2013 10:26 PM

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Yeah, I was waiting forever for this part. I can't wait to see the climax animated.
Sep 20, 2013 11:25 PM
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This series is definitely not letting me down. I spend too much time analyzing and finding shows predictable, this show is not one of them. I made a lot of guesses what was the body thing Sakura said and I can't believe that was not one of my guesses. I did consider they went there willingly but wasn't sure how. This show is fantastic. I guess I'll play the game next year for vita but it won't be the same.
Sep 20, 2013 11:25 PM

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can't wait to see Junko-chan and her many different personalities! ^^
Sep 20, 2013 11:31 PM

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Naegi owned her xD
hopefully they will kill her next episode.
5/5
Sep 20, 2013 11:36 PM

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Naegi owned her xD
hopefully they will kill her next episode.
5/5


NO, Naegi will probably have a threesome with her and Kirgiri. Sounds great? No?

Actually, I felt kinda suspicious when Danganronpa was airing the first quarter of the episodes where she was killed (Ikusaba Mokuro) but it didn't left much evidence. I feel like I was trolled the entire time LOL but definitely one of the greater series this season.
Sep 20, 2013 11:43 PM

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Holy CRAP! I didn't see this coming at all! Everyone were students of the school previously but had lost their memories due to amnesia. Junko and Mukuro are twins, however they switched places after they lost their memories. So Mukuro died as Junko and we had never seen the real Junko until now. That was an amazing reveal. Her crazy laugh was just like Annie's laugh from Attack on Titan. xD Man this episode really surprised me. Best episode by far.
5/5
Sep 21, 2013 12:21 AM

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I love Junko's VA to bits.
Sep 21, 2013 1:42 AM

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Did not see that coming!!!

Great revealing true characters episode!!!
Sep 21, 2013 2:17 AM

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Even though I spoiled myself 2 episodes ago, it's funny how you notice this

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/4416/z6iw.png

Freckles on one sister, and other doesn't. Real Junko doesn't have them. If someone had actually looked at Junko in episode 1/2 and then looked at her profile on MAL here, you could of figured out that wasn't her; even without looking at the spoilers.
Sep 21, 2013 2:39 AM

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Junko's revelation felt like Annie's revelation as the female titan :D
Also, i really like her Genocider Syo-liked face in this ep~ xD
Sep 21, 2013 4:23 AM
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Tyrel said:
Even though I spoiled myself 2 episodes ago, it's funny how you notice this

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/4416/z6iw.png

Freckles on one sister, and other doesn't. Real Junko doesn't have them. If someone had actually looked at Junko in episode 1/2 and then looked at her profile on MAL here, you could of figured out that wasn't her; even without looking at the spoilers.


Oh wow, I have been wondering all this time what was the difference between Junko and her sister, when it came to their facial appearances, because I couldnt tell, but after your post, I finally know! Thanks.



Anyways. SO wow, it was Junko Enoshima this entire time. I kinda guessed that in the middle of this episode, since they were clearly hiding her face on those pictures for a reason.

But what put the final nail in the coffin for me was when they analyzed the body and said it had a bunch of stab wounds, the only person that met that description was Junko Enoshima, so thats when I got it.

And now that I think about it. I guess when Ikusaba said that its just photoshop....that should have been a clear indicator right there, cant believe I missed it.

But yeah, anytime before that, I had no freaking clue who it was.

I kinda wish I played the game before I watched this, since apparently its much better or something.

I see one video on youtube thats about 3 hours long talking about the final class trial, so I guess I should go and watch that before the final episode comes out.

But damn, this psycho is fucking sexy. I cant wait to see what happens to her next episode.


But I do have 1 question, its kinda random and not important but. When Junko Enoshima dressed up as that killer with the knife, who tried o kill Naegi, how did she get in his room again? Does she follow her own rules of the doors cant be open from the outside? (unless you have that master key, but Kirigiri has it)

Its just kinda hard for me to really use my critical thinking skills for this show if I cant even be sure if the rules wont be broken at any whim of the mastermind or not.

But anyways, looking forward to this sexy psycho next episode
Sep 21, 2013 4:35 AM

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But I do have 1 question, its kinda random and not important but. When Junko Enoshima dressed up as that killer with the knife, who tried o kill Naegi, how did she get in his room again? Does she follow her own rules of the doors cant be open from the outside? (unless you have that master key, but Kirigiri has it)

In the game, Kirigiri said that Naegi forgot to lock his door. That's why Junko managed to get into his room.
Sep 21, 2013 4:44 AM

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OMG WTF!!

JUNKO?!

All those time I despair over not seeing more of her!!!
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Sep 21, 2013 5:20 AM

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I doubt it was just me but I was already suspicious of Junko when they first began to investigate Mukuro's corpse but I played the game. Seriously, the anime made it look as though Naegi pulled Junko out of his ass.
Sep 21, 2013 6:15 AM

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JUNKOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OH MY GOD
FINALLY
I'M NOT DISAPPOINTED AT ALL NOW IM GOING TO DIE OF FANGIRLISM BYE
Sep 21, 2013 6:40 AM

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So the photographs, the lockers, and the interviews lead the six students to believe they have amnesia.
It's seem Monokuma stole their memories, but why would he?

The mastermind isn't Kirigiri's father, but in fact, it was Junko Enoshima!
And she's the twin of Mukuro Ikusaba, who was acting as Junko in the beginning.

Get ready for despair.
I’m always searching for something, for someone. This feeling has possessed me I think, from that day… That day when the stars came falling.
Sep 21, 2013 6:56 AM
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the hottest girl was the mastermind...damn
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