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Apr 9, 2012 3:43 AM
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dtshyk said:

He added that the relationships among Rin, Komari, and other new members of the Little Busters team might be described more in detail than in the game.



GUYS, THIS IS GOOD NEWS. (don't mind the caps)
if the characters were described more in detail than in the game, then Key is definitely with them in creating the storyboard for the anime. It will be logical, right? Who else would describe their own characters other than Key themselves? So don't worry about J.C. Staff's adaptation of the game. The story would probably not mess up since Key will be with them :) trust Key. They know what they are doing :)
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dtshyk said:
He said the length of the TV series is significantly long, but still it was necessary to shorten the original story to adapt it to the limited number of episodes.
Simple solution - make more episodes. As long as producers focus on making seasons instead of actual series decline in anime quality will continue. Why do you think older series are usually considered better? Because then producers thought how many episodes they need to fit in the story, not how much story they can fit in given number of episodes.
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Apr 9, 2012 4:19 AM

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All the whining makes my head hurt.

I'm gonna at least give JC Staff a chance. But my expectations may be lowered a bit.
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I hope J.C Staff will do a good job. Then I'd like to see all the faces of people who thinks this is the apocalypse.
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dtshyk said:

He added that the relationships among Rin, Komari, and other new members of the Little Busters team might be described more in detail than in the game.



GUYS, THIS IS GOOD NEWS. (don't mind the caps)
if the characters were described more in detail than in the game, then Key is definitely with them in creating the storyboard for the anime. It will be logical, right? Who else would describe their own characters other than Key themselves? So don't worry about J.C. Staff's adaptation of the game. The story would probably not mess up since Key will be with them :) trust Key. They know what they are doing :)
DOn't mind them, they want to read between the lines, let them.

And you are correct, Key is the one who asked for more in-depth exploration of the relationships between Rin and the rest of the Little Busters girls. Do remember in the game we mostly got their relationships with Riki and all the character development between Rin and them was off-camera. Possibly this just means we will get to see some extra events between them (possibly in exchange for the romance scenes they will have to eliminate for every heroine that's not Rin).

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Pleasantly surprised by this news. First, it seems like Key is watching over JC Staff closely, and JC Staff seems very motivated to bring a quality anime.

I don't see how things could go wrong. Well, the team still seems pretty weak, but as I said, with Key watching over them and them being motivated AND under pressure, I think this might be a success.
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Hmm, a wise word. I will watch this to see the quality here.
Apr 9, 2012 6:10 AM

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I guess some people will dislike the anime just because they are J.C. Staff haters.
People should remember J.C. Staff can produces good anime too.
And they proved that the Character Design will be good in the trailer. Moreover Key is supervising the whole thing. It can't be bad.
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SIeepwalker said:
I guess some people will dislike the anime just because they are J.C. Staff haters.
People should remember J.C. Staff can produces good anime too.
And they proved that the Character Design will be good in the trailer. Moreover Key is supervising the whole thing. It can't be bad.
I wouldn't be completely sure but at least we can't judge it along with Tsukihime a project that wasn't even properly supervised by Type-Moon or properly funded to begin with. And there's nothing else to properly compare it to (everything else are Light Novel and manga adaptations or original series) let alone the fact JC STAFF has as many hit as they got misses. So we can't pre-judge it just because of the false pre-conception they botch ALL adaptations.

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Wonder if he saw the MAL thread where people were all worried. XD

I guarantee he didn't.

Anyway this is just going to be a rehash of the thread that just got locked for JC trolling.

alpha69 said:
Noooo... I wanted it done omnibus style like Amagami

Omnibus worked okay for Amagami but it is not a style I want to see done often, and certainly not for an adaptation of this magnitude. Nobody was intended to take the Amagami anime super seriously on an emotional level, so the constant resets were fine. ust watching the protagonist go through a bunch of hypercondensed stories for one girl each time destroys any chance of story depth in animated form.


The thing is that Amagami didn't feel repetitive. If Little Busters had to be in omnibus format, the common route would have to be repeated every time. Although there are changes in the common route depending on who you're aiming for, it would still be awfully repetitive.
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So this is actually Visual Arts saying they're as scared as the fans, and are just trying to calm the fans down as well as themselves. At least they admit it was not the best studio to choose if they had a choice.
Of course it still has to be made, so there's really no reason to break it down already, but still it's freaking JC Staff doing Little Busters!
Let's hope 'significaly long' doesn't mean just 24 eps in 1 season. I hope they'll at least split it in to seasons of 24 like Clannad.


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Apr 9, 2012 6:53 AM
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wow....... *.*
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I never heard of (nor cared to hear about) J.C. Staff, just recently I heard they made Toradora and Shakugan no Shana, animes I love and hate respectively. Frankly I have no opinion about the group, but really find it interesting that even the game creator showed disbelief for them and actually are calling the fans to share their hope for the best.

Well, if they're contractually prohibited from doing what the fans fear the most, then I don't see reason for the early panic.

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Dont worry the fact that they even have to reassure the fans that the anime will not be that bad is bad new in its own right

It's actually in order to avoid self fulfilling prophecies. Considering what I have read so far not just in this forum, but everywhere else, the simple fact that the anime's made by J.C.Staff might condemn it to failure even if the final result it's damn awesome.
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Okay, really, now that it's already been confirmed, there's nothing we can do but sit and wait for it to become a disappointment or a masterpiece. @__@
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Solkiskey said:
jmal said:
phoenixalia said:
Wonder if he saw the MAL thread where people were all worried. XD

I guarantee he didn't.

Anyway this is just going to be a rehash of the thread that just got locked for JC trolling.

alpha69 said:
Noooo... I wanted it done omnibus style like Amagami

Omnibus worked okay for Amagami but it is not a style I want to see done often, and certainly not for an adaptation of this magnitude. Nobody was intended to take the Amagami anime super seriously on an emotional level, so the constant resets were fine. ust watching the protagonist go through a bunch of hypercondensed stories for one girl each time destroys any chance of story depth in animated form.


The thing is that Amagami didn't feel repetitive. If Little Busters had to be in omnibus format, the common route would have to be repeated every time. Although there are changes in the common route depending on who you're aiming for, it would still be awfully repetitive.


They have a fairly easy way to send Riki off on all the routes to be honest, all they have to do is tweak the stories a bit, which would have happened anyway, and have them all sent as tasks for Rin and Riki to complete, much like would happen in Rin's route anyway.
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Even if J.C Staff gives justice to Little Busters.

It will be labeled as stupid, shit, trash anyway. t(-___-t)
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Apr 9, 2012 7:53 AM

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This is probably the biggest job of JC Staffs career. They can get back a lot of their lost respect if they adapt Little Busters correctly. But if they don't...

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Yah i wont have faith till i see it being good

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Apr 9, 2012 7:59 AM

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Well, what solkiskey said put my mind at ease.
as long as key's eyes are on j.c.'s 100% then it won't be TOO bad.
probably won't be perfect (because you can't please everyone) but it'll be close.

/hopeless optimistic
Apr 9, 2012 8:04 AM

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Key better watch J.C. like hawks and better bribe them if need it so they will do a good job, leave no disgruntled or overstressed staff member unaccounted for.

Advice for Key: You need extra lawyers and get the judge on your side, a last minute injunction at your discretion will save this sacred series from being terrible even if it means a longer wait for us fans.

I will not say this will be good until I watch ep 1 and 2


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I will laugh my ass off if J.C. Staff will make it the best anime of the fall season, and all haters would start to like them, because they didn't screw it up.
I am not a fan of them either, but I am giving them a chance to prove that they're capable of doing great adaptations.
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Like I said in the previous thread, I had a feeling J.C staff wanted to do this to redeem themselves.

There's only one way to get fan trust back, and that's to do a highly anticipated adaptation and do it right ( hopefully )
Apr 9, 2012 8:19 AM

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looks like good news

Apr 9, 2012 8:32 AM

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well at least we got a public reaction from him knowing he understands the fans' concerns.
J.C. Staff better do a hell of an AWESOME job on LB
Apr 9, 2012 8:35 AM
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RyanSaotome said:
This is probably the biggest job of JC Staffs career.


Not really.
bla bla bla
The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Apr 9, 2012 8:36 AM
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DUMBASS PRESIDENT
TALENT OVER ENTHUSIASM
KYOANI OVER JC STAFF
does he even know how many fans were desperately waiting for a little busters anime?
Apr 9, 2012 8:41 AM
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"significantly long" and "Komari might be described more in detail than in the game."

THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW.

Optimism, ho!

EDIT: That latter quote sounds nice and awkward when taken out like that. :3
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wakka9ca said:
RyanSaotome said:
This is probably the biggest job of JC Staffs career.


Not really.


What makes you think it isn't? This has the potential to be the biggest seller of their history (previous owner of that title is Railgun at about 23k, and Clannad sold nearly 30k). Plus, it can give them back much of the lost respect they've had over the years.

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and he asked the fans to trust them


That's going to blow up in your face later on ...
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RyanSaotome said:

What makes you think it isn't? This has the potential to be the biggest seller of their history (previous owner of that title is Railgun at about 23k, and Clannad sold nearly 30k). Plus, it can give them back much of the lost respect they've had over the years.


Biggest seller in the whole otaku history, for real.
hope they adapt it properly.


No, JC Staffs history.

Apr 9, 2012 8:57 AM

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I'm still not optimistic.

I'll be watching it to see how terrible it turns out regardless. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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jmal said:

The very reason I adored Clannad so much was that it treated the characters as members of a single cast, not as a laundry list of "routes" to check off one by one (this is why omnibus kinda bores me). While one girl was chosen, all the other girls stayed relevant, and when each girl got some individual focus, it was generally not just a one-on-one with Tomoya. The other girls mattered quite a bit and interacted with each other as friends, resulting in many of my favorite scenes.


The entire cast of Little Busters! are a lot more relevant to the story, not matter what particular route you're on, than the cast of Clannad, hell you could do a specific route in Clannad and never have interactions with certain characters (mainly Kotomi, and Fuko) that does not happen in Little Busters!
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http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/company.php?id=478

Here is a link to the shows that JC Staff has been involved in since 1986.
Apr 9, 2012 9:25 AM

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Anxiety

Gotta love the euphemism lol
Apr 9, 2012 9:45 AM

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I will trust them... when I see the results...
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Apr 9, 2012 9:58 AM

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Well, if the president has faith in them, I guess we can only wait and see if they did a good job.
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Apr 9, 2012 9:59 AM

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lol, this is funny. It's probably more like "We were worried about giving it to them, but then they offered us the most money for the adaption". Anyways oh well. Its done. Can only hope for the best, if it turns out crappy I will just go for the visual novel.

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Well, if the president has faith in them, I guess we can only wait and see if they did a good job.


Did you expect him to be like "Yeah sorry guys, I know they won't do a good job but we just needed someone to make it already"? lol, of course hes going to say he has faith in them.
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Lol JC Staff

If they nail this = Redemption
If they flunk this = There goes my 3rd season of Index... lol

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Misdreavius said:
Well IMO people should let up on all the JC Staff hate, at least they've acknowledged the hate and that they earnestly want to please the fans.

Either way, how the hell can you hate on an adaptation that hasn't even come out yet. Just because past experiences prove otherwise doesn't mean that all future projects will turn out the same. Hate on it once it comes out people.
LOL if only people could ignore the quality of a company's past works when deciding on their next purchase.

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They can say all they want but with that staff they assigned for LB. lol
Yeah really. They SAY they're enthusiastic, after assigning Team Shit to the project? Sorry. It doesn't work that way.

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B: who is going to end up voicing riki.
Kugimiya Rie. Because in the VN, Rin and Rikki has the same VA, and Rin's VA is somewhat like Kugyuu's. Also... it's JC Staff. XD
Please no lol...
I'd like to add a "FUCK" to that "NO."

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Lol gotto love fans. Poor JC Staff. Noone remembers the few times when they actually did something right.
"Few" being the key word there. Doesn't matter when you examine the ratio of successes to failures. (Saying it's lopsided would be an understatement.)
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Everything in LBs besides Refrain is garbage. I do not see why you all care so much.

F/SN sold much more,btw.
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Let's just trust them and see how it goes.
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The second paragraph of the news had been discussed in the previous thread already.

Basically "Rearranging the arcs" won't change many things, honestly... For example, they are going to put Komari's route to the front, but that's it.

And after Baba's tweet, I had no other choice than keeping my expectation low and watching J.C once again after finsihing the game...

Done decent = I will be disappointed.

Done bad = Faith on J.C won't come back anymore. Hoping for Little Busters! (2006) or sth like that.

Done good/epic/masterpiece = Faith on J.C restored. I hope they will change their strategy from "mass production" to "quality production"...And judging by their recent announcements, they had been reducing their anime for this season and didn't announce many anime for next seasons, which is a good thing.
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Yes, I'm anxious too.
Animating this might ruin JC Staff's career. Why wouldn't they pick a good VN instead?
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Yes, I'm anxious too.
Animating this might ruin JC Staff's career. Why wouldn't they pick a good VN instead?


>Implying that your opinion is objective
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really hope the adaption turns out to be great, after all J.C. always had mediocre animation


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The second paragraph of the news had been discussed in the previous thread already.

Basically "Rearranging the arcs" won't change many things, honestly... For example, they are going to put Komari's route to the front, but that's it.

And after Baba's tweet, I had no other choice than keeping my expectation low and watching J.C once again after finsihing the game...

Done decent = I will be disappointed.

Done bad = Faith on J.C won't come back anymore. Hoping for Little Busters! (2006) or sth like that.

Done good/epic/masterpiece = Faith on J.C restored. I hope they will change their strategy from "mass production" to "quality production"...And judging by their recent announcements, they had been reducing their anime for this season and didn't announce many anime for next seasons, which is a good thing.
Preety much this,
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JC Staff works vary in animation quality, just like every other studio. They have some pretty good staff here and there and if they have enough funding, they can probably pull something good off

not that I care about a LB adaption, but it's not like this title is something that requires the absolute best talent in the industry. Hell if they can get some H&C/Toradora/Ano Natsu people to work on it, it'll probably turn out alright.
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JC Staff works vary in animation quality, just like every other studio. They have some pretty good staff here and there and if they have enough funding, they can probably pull something good off

not that I care about a LB adaption, but it's not like this title is something that requires the absolute best talent in the industry. Hell if they can get some H&C/Toradora/Ano Natsu people to work on it, it'll probably turn out alright.


Yeah they have some good stuff, but none of them are working on it lol. The directors for Honey and Clover, Toradora, Ano Natsu, Nodame Cantobile, etc are not the ones making it. Instead we get the guy who did Hatsukoi Limited, Kill Me Baby, and some movie that tanked so bad in theaters that it didn't even get a dvd/bluray release. Forgive me if I don't have much faith.
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Lol JC Staff

If they nail this = Redemption
If they flunk this = There goes my 3rd season of Index... lol

You got it right.
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