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Jan 8, 2012 7:31 AM

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ringoo4 said:
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There is none because both were not explicit. Looking up someone's skirt then seeing the panties is not only explicit but implies it. That's what was to be shown correct? In hopes of shining more on Koyomi's loli problem. So what you are saying makes not sense as I did not mention any of the differences between what you mention.

That';s not true. It can make some stories better like in romance or comedy. You are in the wrong on that one.

Perverted jokes are fine but visually not much less the context is good.
What a hypocrite for someone who has Hidan no Aria and Hanasaku Iroha in the favourite list.
Oh really? Really? Well they different series that are not of this one so it makes no sense in you mentioning this.
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Sir, Senjougahara in nude is EXPLICIT FAN SERVICE. Bondage Kanbaru is EXPLICIT FAN SERVICE. Shinobu with no pants is EXPLICIT FAN SERVICE. These are all from Bakemonogatari, and nothing will be changed in Nisemonogatari. Jesus Christ, how someone's brain is this much retarded?
I never liked those too much. I just did not discuss any of them. Most of them were more in the BD BTW. I never accepted in both series and the one still in LN of any fan service. I accepted and encouraged the visuals with the dialogue that presented a story-line. That being said if the fan service shall be more than the last series. I will either comment on it or from the looks of it better STFU about it. I think I will do the latter since I see the results of it now not having done that. I will however mention it.

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Jan 8, 2012 7:33 AM

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LeFake said:
Shaft sure love to use them old classic western gags.


Especially not from under loli skirt.
Jan 8, 2012 7:36 AM
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Any one noticed this?
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Jan 8, 2012 7:44 AM

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Mehar said:
Any one noticed this?


LOL.

Wow, great catch. Muraragi definitely should've known they weren't semi-transparent black panties. Wonder if he could see the bunny at that angle.
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Mehar said:
Any one noticed this?


Whoa! I'll be honest - I had to go back and watch it again just to be sure it was real :)
Jan 8, 2012 7:49 AM
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LeFake said:
Shaft sure love to use them old classic western gags.


I'll admit I was completely trolled by that scene, and it was all the more amusing because of it.

I usually don't go for that sort of nonsense in my shows when they involve minors, but for some reason the interplay between Koyomi and Mayoi I accept and look forward to as two good friends or siblings rough-housing and teasing each other.
Jan 8, 2012 7:55 AM

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gloomheart said:
I'm gonna admit: The episode bored me. I enjoyed my time with Bake (although I don't think it's the greatest anime ever, as 95% of this site thinks it is), but this episode just made me anticipate when it was going to end.

Also, can anyone explain the appeal of Senjougahara to me? I look and listen to her, and all I see is an overbearing C U Next Tuesday. Or is the anime community at large just a bunch of spineless cuckolds?

Senjougahara? The appeal is, she is complex. Senjougahara is boring if you only see her in today's episode, especially if you can't catch her hidden intensions. She is a serious boke, tsundere, kuudere, yandere, teaser, sadist, had a ton of stationery in her skirt...This list can go on forever which made her a mixed bag of awesomeness. In the other side, she confessed to Araragi in the first few episodes, having no knowledge of a proper date, but has an awesome episode full of her and Araragi relationship. While she's not my most favorited character, she is an awesome main heroine and matched araragi perfectly.

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I'm from Canada o.O good luck we are multicultural here.

oky, fine Bake had that but is it right to show a kid being molested? Don't you find that disturbing?

This happened a lot in Bakemonogatari. Reasons why I'm not think this disturbing is :
1. You should feel that they didn't directed any of her "molesting" as other purpose than comedy. Far from any of other lolibait that you can catch in many loli animu.
2. Moreover, she was already there for around...30 years? You can see that her mind is no close to children's mind.
3. They're just having fun, seriously. If he's sexually attracted to children, there's no way he can fall in love to Hitagi like we saw in Bakemono.

and, @yumekichi11, I won't quoting any of your quotes here, but I find your words about Hachikuji are ironic...Since in other anime like...say...BokuTomo, you made screenshots of bouncing boobs.
And Hachikuji definitely wears something down there, if you pay some atention to how her skin pressed by underwear in her hip. Making it dark just made some people effected with reversed psychology.

And don't count post in Sankaku. They were always made their tagline to be like that .
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Haha, great catch indeed.

Oh and I love that one, De-Jay! xD

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Wow, great catch. Muraragi definitely should've known they weren't semi-transparent black panties..
You realize he didn't see them and only said he did so that Mayoi would show him her underwear by choice, right?

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cyruz said:
Haha, great catch indeed.

Oh and I love that one, De-Jay! xD

Panaru said:
Wow, great catch. Muraragi definitely should've known they weren't semi-transparent black panties..
You realize he didn't see them and only said he did so that Mayoi would show him her underwear by choice, right?


XD Yes, of course. I was making a joke. Nice to see you, cyruz.
Jan 8, 2012 8:16 AM
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gloomheart said:
Also, can anyone explain the appeal of Senjougahara to me?


If she were someone I knew she definitely would NOT be on my list of favorite people, and she is not my favorite character in the series. However, for me she works within the confines of the story. Given what he is, there's not much that can physically trouble Koyomi. For whatever reason he has fallen for this girl who knows his strengths and weaknesses and quite possibly is the only thing he really backs down from.
Jan 8, 2012 8:24 AM

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Hahahaha, Araragi is sooo perverted. You gotta love him.

Also to yumekichi again, you don't have to post the nude photos in series like Haganai(boku wa tomodachi ga sukunai) for the lolis there, unless you want them to be used against you in this series... Not going to argue with you.
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Jan 8, 2012 8:40 AM

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KaitoDash said:
YEAH! The first show that gets love from me.
So it only gets 298 yen? :P

Good beginning for the series.
Jan 8, 2012 9:08 AM

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Good beginning indeed. I am loving this series already, this season will be quite good just because of it, and I will watch the much anticipated BRS also
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Jan 8, 2012 9:42 AM

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rodac said:
I've only given one 1 rating: to Manyuu Hikanchou for its charmless blend of sadism, anatomical impossibility, fetishism, and historical revisionism. I thought about doing that for Blood-C, but the graphic design had some interesting elements, Now I'll admit that some of this might be personal taste, but I like to think that I there is a little more to the evaluation than just personal preferences.

As to the intense debate about Koyomi and Mayoi and their interactions, I just have one thing to say--she is not an elementary school student, she is the ghost of an elementary student who died 10 years ago. Her real appearance and essence are as much the red-eyed fang and claw bearing apparition on top of the power pole as they are the little girl. While Koyomi goes into a great theatrical show of doing things to Mayoi, it is worth pointing out that the underlying backbone of the show is the romance between Koyomi and Hitagi
(Bakemonogatari spoiler)


If this upsets people, there probably is going to be a lot of other stuff that upsets them more in the next 12 episodes.


That part didn't upset me because it wasn't as bad as you made it sound



In any case i agree that people (well some people) made to much of the Hachikuji scene since the backbone of romance in this series is between Araragi and Senjougahara.
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Mehar said:
Any one noticed this?
Nope but it does prove now that I was right in the black stuff being a means to censor and that they are panties. Yeah thanks for clearing that one up.

Shit I though there was nothing there, I got:
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/9102/shafts.jpg
pretty much what the pic says.

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Jan 8, 2012 10:32 AM

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Wasn't too impressed this time around. I never liked Bakemonogatari to begin with, but that was a stale way to start off a show. Still, Shaft animation, humor, and style is nice to experience every once in a while; I guess that's the only real reason I'll be watching it at this point. I also can't believe they referenced something relatively obscure like Read or Die. Am I the only one who caught that?
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zeroyuki92 said:
and, @yumekichi11, I won't quoting any of your quotes here, but I find your words about Hachikuji are ironic...Since in other anime like...say...BokuTomo, you made screenshots of bouncing boobs.
And Hachikuji definitely wears something down there, if you pay some atention to how her skin pressed by underwear in her hip. Making it dark just made some people effected with reversed psychology.
Yeah I failed to notice but now someone showed it that she does wear white ones. So it's just censored stuff. I just don't like fan service in all animes. I am just like that and it works by gut feeling. Intuition call it that makes come to that decision. I don't like then I don't simple as that.
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And don't count post in Sankaku. They were always made their tagline to be like that .
Yeah that was an example of what one cluster of the net though. I don't rely on them.

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Jan 8, 2012 10:55 AM

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reminds me that this has a lot of dialogue.
Jan 8, 2012 11:01 AM

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Absolutely loved the 1st ep, it's great to hear Kamiyan in optima forma again.
I liked the scene with Hachikuji and their interaction. It's probably because he thinks they're both abnormal, that he can be so relaxed and playful with her.
Also great characterdevelopment for Hachikuji. She sounded so wise and mature advising him about keeping the supernatural a secret from his family.
But I didn't like the foreshadowing that she might leave :P

Gotta love the teaser of them dancing in the ED, while there was no ED.
And for people wondering about that cake: try googling 'Cream pie' :D
Jan 8, 2012 11:41 AM

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cleo said:
Absolutely loved the 1st ep, it's great to hear Kamiyan in optima forma again.
I liked the scene with Hachikuji and their interaction. It's probably because he thinks they're both abnormal, that he can be so relaxed and playful with her.
Also great characterdevelopment for Hachikuji. She sounded so wise and mature advising him about keeping the supernatural a secret from his family.
But I didn't like the foreshadowing that she might leave :P

Gotta love the teaser of them dancing in the ED, while there was no ED.
And for people wondering about that cake: try googling 'Cream pie' :D


Who the hell thought that was a cake?
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Jan 8, 2012 11:52 AM

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Senjougahara, Araragaki and Hachikuji epic-ness... Oh how I missed these three, especially Araragaki/Hachikuji witty interactions.

THE COURAGE TO ACCEPT THE LABEL OF "PERVERT"!
Oh no. I may have created a monster!

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Jan 8, 2012 12:13 PM

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DuroDeMatar said:
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YEAH! The first show that gets love from me.
So it only gets 298 yen? :P
LOL
Jan 8, 2012 12:34 PM

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10 isn't good enough for this greatness.

You can always lower your other ratings to give Nisemono a higher value.
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Gotta love the comment on that site for that guy. That made me think wheter I was too lenient on my rating. Despite having average in the fives, fall 2011 adds much to the garbage bin.


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Jan 8, 2012 12:55 PM
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The quirky dialogue is what made Bakemonogatari great for me and Nise does not dissapoint in its first episode.

"The courage to accept the label of pervert!" is the phrase of the year (its still early he he).

Looking forward to the rest of the series.
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Jan 8, 2012 1:16 PM

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Yay!!!!!!!!!! Tsundere-chan ♥
Jan 8, 2012 1:26 PM

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iWishTifaWasReal said:

in Bakemonogatari i cannot remember anything about araragi molesting hachikuji. or even if there was. it was probably not as extreme as this episode.
I can't see how one could forget this moment XD:
Jan 8, 2012 1:58 PM

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Pretty disappointing, but it's a start I guess. It's not easy to reach the level of first episode of Bakemonogatari. At least it's better than cat arc. 4/5
Jan 8, 2012 3:12 PM

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I really laughed at the first part.. Senjougahara is crazy as hell haha, thats why i love her. Was really a good episode to start with this season, the crazyness and random events didnt change, the Monogatari essence is back.
10/10 for such an amazing start.

Talking about the opening theme, it was not the great thing.. it was average.
Senjougahara's Staple Stable is really hard to defeat tho.
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Jan 8, 2012 3:29 PM

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This episode was great. Had me laughing on various occasions. I'm really glad that the second season is finally airing
Jan 8, 2012 3:33 PM

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5/5 episode for sure! I admit I wasn't too excited with the first season that came out because of how annoying the low budget cut scenes were, but this sequel is definitely showing great prowess in the animation it's supposed to have been!

This episode felt awfully and strangely short, but it's just the greatest wonder how well it sinks the viewer's mind into it. xD

Can't wait for more!
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Yumekichi11 said:
Oh really? Really? Well they different series that are not of this one so it makes no sense in you mentioning this.
What an idiot. Hidan no Aria was full of panty shots, and your logics says it should ruin the series and make it utter shit.

I never liked those too much. I just did not discuss any of them. Most of them were more in the BD BTW. I never accepted in both series and the one still in LN of any fan service. I accepted and encouraged the visuals with the dialogue that presented a story-line. That being said if the fan service shall be more than the last series. I will either comment on it or from the looks of it better STFU about it. I think I will do the latter since I see the results of it now not having done that. I will however mention it.
What the HELL are you even saying? and what the HELL are you even replying? Your contradiction is just crazy, and your logics just doesn't exist in the posts other than excuse excuse excuses. You just present how you think, not why you think. Then, please FUCK OFF when trying to build argument. You CAN'T.

I just don't like fan service in all animes.
NOW you say it lol. What a stereotypical bustard.
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omg its finally here XDDDDD
senjougahara was so hot
hachikuji is so cute XDDDD
and i must say, i have the
courage to admit im a lolicon :)
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Senjougahara, officially one of the most complex heroines I have seen. A tsundere, kuudere, yandere, and a beauty and a shitload of other good stuff.

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Oh really? Really? Well they different series that are not of this one so it makes no sense in you mentioning this.
What an idiot. Hidan no Aria was full of panty shots, and your logics says it should ruin the series and make it utter shit.

I never liked those too much. I just did not discuss any of them. Most of them were more in the BD BTW. I never accepted in both series and the one still in LN of any fan service. I accepted and encouraged the visuals with the dialogue that presented a story-line. That being said if the fan service shall be more than the last series. I will either comment on it or from the looks of it better STFU about it. I think I will do the latter since I see the results of it now not having done that. I will however mention it.
What the HELL are you even saying? and what the HELL are you even replying? Your contradiction is just crazy, and your logics just doesn't exist in the posts other than excuse excuse excuses. You just present how you think, not why you think. Then, please FUCK OFF when trying to build argument. You CAN'T.

I just don't like fan service in all animes.
NOW you say it lol. What a stereotypical bustard.


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Jan 8, 2012 4:27 PM

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Ohoho its back XD
lively first episode and def lookin forward to more
Jan 8, 2012 4:29 PM

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after watching this i was reminded of just how i actually hate this show.
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Hahaha, All I want to say right now beside that was great and I would not want to get in a argument with you is that: awesome choice and Avatar and signature.
Kanon is Yandere and Senjougahara is goddess.
Jan 8, 2012 5:19 PM

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I'm so glad it's back =3

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This brings back memories! This series is just so flashy I love it.
I can't wait for the next episode! Yaayyy
Jan 8, 2012 6:50 PM

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The courage to molest grade schoolers.
Jan 8, 2012 7:59 PM

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As usual, this show leaves me more confused after I watch an episode o.O
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InfiniteDestiny said:

That part didn't upset me because it wasn't as bad as you made it sound



In any case i agree that people (well some people) made to much of the Hachikuji scene since the backbone of romance in this series is between Araragi and Senjougahara.


Certainly what happened wasn't as bad as it could have been, but her reaction to it was plausible behaviour for a victim.
But yeah, the more Araragi x Senjougahara action the better...
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Jan 8, 2012 10:16 PM

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So glad to see my goddess Senjougahara again!
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So, I guess all that short hair senjougouhara talk was just trolling then?

Anyway, decent way to start off the series.Felt very similar to the first season and I'm fine with that, but damn araragi is such a perv. Elementary school girl? Also, he sort of just blew off Sengoku, unless time did not go as fast as they made it seem.
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Yumekichi11 said:
I just don't like fan service in all animes.
Ironic Since your profile picture tells otherwise.
But it assumes at most. For it depends on what I think of a series and I just don't think of the fan service in this series nor any of its counterparts. Plain and simple. Therefore I express discontent with it. Thankfully not all but to me it simple I do not appreciate any fan service from Mayoi/Shinobu yet I am OK with any from the rest of the girls. That's best I can do to make it clear now with this series. So anything with Mayoi and Shinobu fan service is going plain be sour to me. Most all know the Shinobu's fan service from the BDs of that bandage, well yeah not really cool with me that one.

BTW There are rumors that Shinobu is supposed to have a naked scene in this series. Uh oh!

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^ lol you changed your avi!... I guess you did have some guilt (?) about it. So childish that I laughed, so called 'Old and WISE' identity of shit.

By the way, there will be nude scene of sisters + near sex scene too. Uh oh!!! These will totally ruin the series for you! So, please drop this series and go masturbate yourself, idiot. Never EVER post your complains about fan service again if you are not going to base any proper reason for it.
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love this episode!! :D
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ringoo4 said:
By the way, there will be nude scene of sisters + near sex scene too. Uh oh!!! These will totally ruin the series for you! So, please drop this series and go masturbate yourself, idiot. Never EVER post your complains about fan service again if you are not going to base any proper reason for it.
Nah it won't ruin the series but thanks for letting me know ahead of time ringoo4. So is there anything I should know as of this episode for future stuff I should watch for?

The sisters and Shinobu is known already. Actually the sisters don't bother me at all.

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ringoo4 said:
By the way, there will be nude scene of sisters + near sex scene too.
Damn, that makes me hope for some incest but it doesn't seem like it'd ever happen. I mean the near sex scene, it'll prolly be some Araragi x Senjougahara or raep.
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OrochiPL said:
ringoo4 said:
By the way, there will be nude scene of sisters + near sex scene too.
Damn, that makes me hope for some incest but it doesn't seem like it'd ever happen.
I concur with this statement.
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