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Jan 28, 2012 7:28 AM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Shinobu talked!!


whta a loli ero episode...

5/5 8.5/10
 
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Jan 28, 2012 8:26 AM

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Delicious Shinobu ecchi, excellent dialog from her as well and Koyomi is bathing with her which was great. Tsukihi returning to the bath with a knife after she found out Koyomi is bathing with Shinobu was funny.

5/5 9.7/10


 
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Jan 28, 2012 9:34 AM

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Great episodes, full analysis on anime blog.
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Jan 28, 2012 10:19 AM
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shinobu-chan! Can't wait for the movie, even if I already read the book.
 
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Jan 28, 2012 10:40 AM

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Lol. It looks like Hirano Aya got cut from the Shinobu's role without speaking a word in Bakemonogatari series. XD

Anyway, I did quite enjoy Sakamoto Maya's VA with Shinobu in this episode and I look forward listening to her in also Kizumonogatari. :)

 
 
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Jan 28, 2012 10:42 AM

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Easily the best episode so far for me. Shinobu is awesome when she talks and I'm glad the story is starting to move along. This episode actually got me more pumped up for Kizumonogatari.
 
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Jan 28, 2012 10:49 AM

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nice to hear Shinobu talking :)
 
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Jan 28, 2012 11:04 AM

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Loved it!
 
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Jan 28, 2012 11:18 AM

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Finally I get to hear Shinobu talk :)
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Jan 28, 2012 11:18 AM

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stevewiess01 said:
Lol. It looks like Hirano Aya got cut from the Shinobu's role without speaking a word in Bakemonogatari series. XD

According to what is written on Shinobu's character page on MAL, Hirano played Shinobu on the drama CD, but was never credited for the anime.

Anyway, great episode. Quite convoluted, though, it was hardest to follow so far. But things are getting VERY interesting, and Shinobu was hilarious. Can't wait for more.
 
 
Jan 28, 2012 11:20 AM

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i rly hope they start picking up the pace, i love the dialog but like srsly want to see more than just talking

either way solid episode =)
 
Jan 28, 2012 11:23 AM

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Loved this episode, specially the part tsukihi caught araragi and shinobu in the bath, also hanekawa was soooooooo cute *-*
 
Jan 28, 2012 11:34 AM

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Well it certainly is awesome to hear Shinobu talking, i wont mind hearing her talk for hours
 
Jan 28, 2012 11:41 AM

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stevewiess01 said:
Lol. It looks like Hirano Aya got cut from the Shinobu's role without speaking a word in Bakemonogatari series. XD

Anyway, I did quite enjoy Sakamoto Maya's VA with Shinobu in this episode and I look forward listening to her in also Kizumonogatari. :)


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Jan 28, 2012 11:53 AM

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Shinobu speaking and Hanekawa with short hair... my body wasn't ready for all this in the span of 20 min O_o
The small train of though shown during the tv scene was rather hilarious

lol so shinobu is perfectly aware of his harem as she make the small joke of "marring him too"
O god all this questions about their past... cant wait for Kizumonogatari xD (which will take a long time until BD is out -.- )
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huh?
 
 
Jan 28, 2012 11:53 AM

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The whole epi was a major fanservice. But a good one.
SHAFT are as insane as usual.

5/5
 
Jan 28, 2012 11:59 AM

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The mind of a 400 year old in the body of a 10 year old golden haired loli. My God!

Hanakawa with short hair. My god.

Karen burning up. My god please save her!
 
Jan 28, 2012 12:09 PM

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Lots of things happening here.

But what thing I'm going to say:
This is the first time that I saw where there's more than 2 people talking.

Karen getting stung by a fire-wreathed bee.
Hanekawa defending the fire sister's action.
Shinobu telling Koyomi about the bee and some sort of agreement.
Tsukihi getting a knife and preparing on butchering Koyomi having a bath with a blonde loli.

Also, Karen and Tsukihi really ARE the fire sisters.

 
Jan 28, 2012 12:23 PM

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choyos said:
lol so shinobu is perfectly aware of his harem as she make the small joke of "marring him too"

Yeah I thought that was pretty funny

I was really surprised Shinobu showed up, I am really enjoying her personality. That's one thing this series is so good at developing everyone personalities, which is usually kinda hard to pull off anyway good episode as usual.
 
Jan 28, 2012 12:26 PM
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koyomi don't have anything between his leg
 
Jan 28, 2012 12:30 PM

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ryanagamis said:
koyomi don't have anything between his leg

It's probably the price he paid for being a semi-immortal vampire...

 
Jan 28, 2012 12:32 PM

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I did not expect Shinobu to talk. Pretty awesome though. Araragi, one of the kings of lolis.

 
Jan 28, 2012 12:36 PM

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That episode was incredibly beautiful. I fell in love with Shinobu. Also dynamics between her and Koyomi is thrilling - something between close siblings and dark lovers.
 
 
Jan 28, 2012 12:36 PM

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Great ep 5/5
But i nearly $hit my pants when Shinobu popped out and started talking.
 
Jan 28, 2012 12:37 PM

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My body wasn't ready yet for talking Shinobu.
Great episode this anime hasn't let me down yet and I hope it never will.
I actually laughed out loud when Tsukihi entered the bathroom, I thought it was hilarious.
 
Jan 28, 2012 12:39 PM

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To be honest i was kinda shocked for 10 seconds or so to hear shinobu talk, i always thougt she was deth or mute or something xD

But from the beginning to the end this conversation between koyomi and shinobu was fantastic! They look like lovers that hate!? each other, i don't know how to explain it xD

Now i really wanna see kizumongatari and know what the hell happend with the two
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Jan 28, 2012 12:50 PM

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What the fuck did I just watch.
I definitely have superpowers. I can feel it in my balls.
 
Jan 28, 2012 12:54 PM

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Seems Karen is in big trouble and the cure for her trouble still needs to be found makes me wonder what exactly happened with Kaiki.
I also wonder how Senjougahara will reject when Araragi asks her is she can help his sister who got attacked by Kaiki.
It's getting pretty interesting that's for sure.

Shinobu talking was nice in a way and she even helped out tho she didn't seem to happy with her knowledge.
Oshino must have some problems talking all day about those phenomena.
And i wonder how she bared with it.
 
Jan 28, 2012 12:56 PM

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lol shinobu service overload^^
 
Jan 28, 2012 12:59 PM

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nice Ep and I cant believe shinobu can talk. I just read kizumonogatari on baka tsuki and then watched bakemonogatari and i finally understand why she was named Shinobu
lol. This episode also brings out alot from Kizumonogatari that makes you more excited for its release.
Looks like Oshino told Shinobu all those stories so that Araragi has info when hes gone.
Tsukihi with a knife proves she is yandere or just psycho but shes still my fave.
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Jan 28, 2012 1:08 PM

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So much win in this episode, Hanekawa and Shinobu=pure win. It seems that all those who thought it was Kaiki on the phone finally got their proof that it wasn't, the reasoning Senjougahara freaked out was great too, i guess she really feels threatened by Hanekawa stealing Araragi away after all. The Dialogue was awesome as usual but i thought the conversation between Shinobu and Araragi was particular interesting; and no not just for the sheer awesome fact that she finally talked, but because among other things the concept of extended longevity and the idea that they don't "forgive" each other (I'm guessing because of the events of Kizumonogatari) but they still found there middle ground as i felt that threat at the end was fairly empty.

People can argue that this episode didn't move the plot much; but then again Bakemonogatari or this series in general (since this show does the same) doesn't focus on fast moving plot but characters and dialogue which like the rest of the series excelled in this episode; and also i wouldn't be surprised if Karen's arc ended next episode or at the very latest the episode after she we still need to see the other sisters arc; which also makes me wonder who she was going to kill with that knife; Shinobu or Araragi for being in the bath with a girl.
 
Jan 28, 2012 1:12 PM

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Damn, that was a LONG bath scene with Shinobu and Koyomi. Can't wait to rewatch this episode when the BDs come out without all the steam/bright lighting.
 
Jan 28, 2012 1:14 PM

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I preferred Hanekawa with long hair and glasses, I'll get used to her new look though.

Shinobu!!! Finally got to hear her speak, her voice is not what I imagined it to be. She's cute, so loli, I could just steal her whilst she's naked haha!
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Jan 28, 2012 1:21 PM
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Shinobu talking was a bit of a surprise. I thought I wouldn't get to hear her til kizumonogatari comes out!

I have my doubts about Hanekawa and Senjougahara's conversation. I can't see Senjougahara feeling that threatened by Hanekawa.

Tsukihi with the knife was pure gold!
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Jan 28, 2012 1:32 PM
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I get the Knife but...What was Tsukihi going to do with the potlid 0_0 One can only imagine...
 
Jan 28, 2012 1:36 PM

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ryanagamis said:
koyomi don't have anything between his leg

^ This lol. But man... I wish Shinobu was a bit older :] About 21 would be pretty epic haha. Reimagine that scene with a 21-year-old Shinobu :O
 
 
Jan 28, 2012 1:36 PM

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Awesome to hear and see so much Shinobu, she's my favorite character in Monogatari series besides Senjougahara~
 
Jan 28, 2012 1:51 PM

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Yay! I've wanted to see Shinobu!! >_<
Tho I didn't expect her to start up conversation with Araragi, that was a nice surprise :)
Lol when Tsukihi came into the bathroom and saw Shinobu XD I was laughing so hard from that alone, but then she comes back with a knife!
 
Jan 28, 2012 1:57 PM

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I get the Knife but...What was Tsukihi going to do with the potlid 0_0 One can only imagine...
A shield - she's got a sword already, so the potlid is a shield!
 
Jan 28, 2012 2:04 PM

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The Blu-Ray will be diamonds.
 
Jan 28, 2012 2:07 PM
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Once again the visuals of this show have made me speechless. Especially Shinobu's entrance was jaw-droppingly stunning

As the title indicates one reoccuring theme will be being fake displayed for example by the fire sisters who are only conterfeit heroes at least according to their brother but we have also seen other characters whothe title of being fake would apply to. Sengoku desperately tries to get closer to Araragi by taking on the role of a seductress while Kanbaru is taking on the role of a pervert even if it doesn't necessarily reflect the truth. If we take Hanekawa at her words Kaiki will be another person of this type whose fake quality is crucial for his power. Only time will tell if the fire sisters will remain at this level or eventually evolve over the course of this series.

I was taken aback by Shinobu finally speaking. Her voice wasn't how I expected it to be but it works so there are no complaints from me.
I found her relationship with Araragi is quite interesting. She's in general pretty coy when talking with him but one cannot help but notice the sligthly threatening undertone of their conversation. There was one particular scene which I really liked when they hit each other with their elbows acting like buddies.
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Jan 28, 2012 2:13 PM

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ohh god! shinobu talked-a lot, well if I do remember correctly she's really a talkative vampire back when I read Kizumonogatari and that old fashioned way of speaking it's just as I imagined while reading the novel
 
 
Jan 28, 2012 2:14 PM

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Would you trade your 'piece' for immortality?

Ugh... tough call.
 
Jan 28, 2012 2:16 PM

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It appears this show only knows the word awesome. Shinobu popping up naked and speaking. I lol'd at Tsukihi returning so nonchalantly to murder Shinobu with a Butchers knife and a pot lid. SHAFT is pure genius.

ryanagamis said:
koyomi don't have anything between his leg

^ Epic lol sir
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Jan 28, 2012 2:33 PM

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Good episode,Shinobu finally talk and the conversation with Araragi was great,also it bring with some good fanservice that was awesome,Hanekawa looks nice with her new look...i like it even that it brings some Sengoku vibes.

Tsukihi returning with the knife was hilarious and ya...the visuals were outstanding again.

Cant wait for next episode.
 
Jan 28, 2012 2:46 PM

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who need donuts when you got handcuff that rich with iron and minerals.
 
Jan 28, 2012 2:51 PM

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Ah, I was just reminded of why Shinobu is my second favourite character in the monogatari series.
 
Jan 28, 2012 3:06 PM

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i dont know whether i love or hate that i love hanekawa's new look :S
she seems sort of different with her new appearance, in a VERY good way

and love how shinobu is finally talking, her personality is SOO different than what i wouldve imagined .-.

4 episodes into the karen bee arc, and about 5 minutes total of actual karen lol
shinobu pretty much ate up the entire episode, and i really wanted to see MORE senjougahara in this episode as well
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Jan 28, 2012 3:17 PM

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So they shed some light on the situation. I'm not sure how I felt about Shinobu talking, unexpected to say the least. That last piece of conversation was relatively interesting. I see some people are catching on.
 
Jan 28, 2012 3:19 PM

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awesome episode

 
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