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Jul 5, 2011 9:26 AM
#51
Mogami-kun said: I think the problem with Lotte is that it should have been targeted either at people with a "special preference" or remove all the sexual parts and make it a family friendly heartwarming comedy. In its current state it cannot please the target audience. Exactly. People watched it expecting an erotic loli show and didn't get it, and nobody else watched it due to its lewd premise. How can they expect to make sales on something that doesn't do what it claims? |
Jul 5, 2011 9:47 AM
#52
I loved Haga Yui's BakaTest so this really bugs me, even though I have to admit I wasn't all that fund of Astarotte no Omocha either, it was watchable. I just hope this doesn't mean it's going to affect the airing of season 2 of BakaTest this summer. |
Jul 5, 2011 10:04 AM
#53
dtshyk said: Mangaka Haga Yui posted on her twitter that she wanted to pay off the huge debt of Astarotte no Omocha! anime. She regretted that she couldn’t return profits to those who invested in her work. She herself purchased Astarotte no Omocha! Blu-ray and DVDs five copies each. She said she will do her best to promote the anime. Source: Haga’s twitter Note: The first volume of Astarotte no Omocha Blu-ray was sold 1,316 copies. I other words, she's broke, it figures, the anime is a flop to begin with |
Jul 5, 2011 10:27 AM
#54
Jul 5, 2011 10:29 AM
#55
I don't mind the whole semen succubus thing...Thats sort of what a succubus is. But it was a ten year old girl and that's just beyond me. By a friggen lot. If it's actually a good story and such....well fuck. How am I supposed to know? The producers and distributes completely and utterly failed in trying to harness another market after the lolo and ecchi markets failed. |
Jul 5, 2011 10:32 AM
#56
Jul 5, 2011 10:39 AM
#57
Yeah, T&B selling well is a mystery. It's all about westernization, japs seem to love that shit. Probably what the show needed to sell more, was actually more fanservice. I'm not saying that would've made it better, I'm just saying it would've probably sold a lot more that way. |
Jul 5, 2011 10:58 AM
#58
jmal said: SurferDude said: 1. Make mediocre show. 2. Expect high sales. LOLJAPAN Oh how I love the inconsistency. MAL Poster's Guide to Pissing on Shows: 1) If a show you don't like sells well, say "Of course it sold, Japan has no taste and buys mediocre/shit shows!" 2) If a show you don't like sells poorly, say "Of course it didn't sell, it was mediocre/shit!" 3) If a show you like sells well, say "Oh I guess Japan finally discovered taste!", because clearly your personal preferences are universal truth and everyone was wrong until they started agreeing with you. Now you have all your bases covered! It may be completely self-contradictory, but this is the internet, that's never stopped anyone! Be a dear and make a topic about this or put it in your blog entries. |
Jul 5, 2011 11:00 AM
#59
it was on okay show, but i think the synopsis really put off a lot of viewers & buyers. |
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Jul 5, 2011 11:41 AM
#60
i actually wanted to give up until the unveiling of naoya n the queen, which practically made me continue the series... the rest makes me feel like a pedo, really |
Jul 5, 2011 11:50 AM
#61
It was a great show in my opinion good story great chara. Hell it might just be that i like lolis but in my opinion it was a great show. |
Jul 5, 2011 11:50 AM
#62
jmal said: SurferDude said: 1. Make mediocre show. 2. Expect high sales. LOLJAPAN Oh how I love the inconsistency. MAL Poster's Guide to Pissing on Shows: 1) If a show you don't like sells well, say "Of course it sold, Japan has no taste and buys mediocre/shit shows!" 2) If a show you don't like sells poorly, say "Of course it didn't sell, it was mediocre/shit!" 3) If a show you like sells well, say "Oh I guess Japan finally discovered taste!", because clearly your personal preferences are universal truth and everyone was wrong until they started agreeing with you. Now you have all your bases covered! It may be completely self-contradictory, but this is the internet, that's never stopped anyone! Me lieks this!! |
Jul 5, 2011 11:54 AM
#63
She should just sell more of her loli hentai art books if shes having money problems. Maybe even draw some non canon manga where Lotte actually does suck dick |
Jul 5, 2011 12:21 PM
#64
Otaku watched. They didnt see loli bjs. Disappointment. Low sales. /thread. I am planning to watch this very soon though, some of the comments here are convincing me to do so. |
Jul 5, 2011 12:33 PM
#65
RyanSaotome said: She should just sell more of her loli hentai art books if shes having money problems. Maybe even draw some non canon manga where Lotte actually does suck dick one can always wait for Comiket(or the next less important doujin event). For sure Lotte's doujins will sell more than its BDs. |
Jul 5, 2011 12:39 PM
#66
Juumonji said: RyanSaotome said: She should just sell more of her loli hentai art books if shes having money problems. Maybe even draw some non canon manga where Lotte actually does suck dick one can always wait for Comiket(or the next less important doujin event). For sure Lotte's doujins will sell more than its BDs. Is doujin really the right word when someone is doing a manga of their own IP? |
Jul 5, 2011 12:44 PM
#67
RyanSaotome said: I don't think she herself has money issues seeing as she bought five copies of the show. She expressed disatisfaction at the fact the Anime studio and all the investors took a loss on the show. She herself makes her main income on manga anyway.She should just sell more of her loli hentai art books if shes having money problems. Maybe even draw some non canon manga where Lotte actually does suck dick |
Jul 5, 2011 1:05 PM
#69
Leon-Gun said: RyanSaotome said: I don't think she herself has money issues seeing as she bought five copies of the show. She expressed disatisfaction at the fact the Anime studio and all the investors took a loss on the show. She herself makes her main income on manga anyway.She should just sell more of her loli hentai art books if shes having money problems. Maybe even draw some non canon manga where Lotte actually does suck dick It said she wanted to pay off a huge debt, though |
Jul 5, 2011 1:09 PM
#70
RyanSaotome said: Juumonji said: RyanSaotome said: She should just sell more of her loli hentai art books if shes having money problems. Maybe even draw some non canon manga where Lotte actually does suck dick one can always wait for Comiket(or the next less important doujin event). For sure Lotte's doujins will sell more than its BDs. Is doujin really the right word when someone is doing a manga of their own IP? if it is released in an amateur way, yes. |
Jul 5, 2011 1:10 PM
#71
Jul 5, 2011 1:33 PM
#72
llxwarbirdxll said: Haga Yui's a woman? You'll be surprised at some of these loli anime even Mitsudomoe was created by a woman. There are women who like and write about cute little girls, lolicon is not just a man's fantasy anymore. |
Jul 5, 2011 1:33 PM
#73
Goosey said: Otaku watched. They didnt see loli bjs. Disappointment. Low sales. /thread. I am planning to watch this very soon though, some of the comments here are convincing me to do so. Pretty much this.. |
Jul 5, 2011 1:38 PM
#74
Hoppy said: llxwarbirdxll said: Haga Yui's a woman? You'll be surprised at some of these loli anime even Mitsudomoe was created by a woman. There are women who like and write about cute little girls, lolicon is not just a man's fantasy anymore. Knowing Yui Haga's normal work, I don't think she does it since its "Cute". Its about as hardcore as you can get. |
Jul 5, 2011 2:04 PM
#75
Usually I try not to judge shows before I watch them. But I looked at the picture and thought "meh" then I read the synopsis and I think this shit is lucky to exist let alone have any sort of sales. I mean really thats just a whole new level of stupid. This makes The Qwaser of Stigmata sound like a work of art. |
Jul 5, 2011 2:07 PM
#76
Surprisingly, not any crap can be sold so easily. |
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Jul 5, 2011 2:16 PM
#77
mellors said: Usually I try not to judge shows before I watch them. But I looked at the picture and thought "meh" then I read the synopsis and I think this shit is lucky to exist let alone have any sort of sales. I mean really thats just a whole new level of stupid. This makes The Qwaser of Stigmata sound like a work of art. Sadly stuff like this is why it doesn't sell. It turns off the more "Normal" people, while not delivering what the lolicons want. It was doomed from the start |
Jul 5, 2011 2:45 PM
#78
That's pretty sad she had to buy that many copies of her own work. |
Jul 5, 2011 2:52 PM
#79
This is one of the few cases where I heard an original creator being so distraught about an anime adaptation on his/her work not selling so well. And while I think she has her heart in the right place, I do think her pleas are pretty much in vain. However, I think she's being a bit over-dramatic here. BakaTest is doing quite well, especially with season 2 airing soon, so it's not like she makes crappy stuff. I liked the show myself, though. Yes, I too thought this was going to be a bit more raunchy, but I was pleasantly surprised that turned out to be a (relatively) standard romantic comedy. |
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Jul 5, 2011 3:15 PM
#80
It might be the ending that had some people back down from it as well. One of the strong points this show had going was the family values, and the father-daughter vibe i got from naoya and lotte. But once they start heading into the romance category, I got kinda squicked out. And its not illogical to think others did too. And the ending with them being IN love with each other would also be enough to stop me from purchasing this series. |
Jul 5, 2011 7:40 PM
#81
What the hell? It had a loli with a tail voiced by Rei. How could that not sell? I mean don't get me wrong, I don't think anyone would advertise that they watch it, but it would hardly be the first series to make a profit off of being a secret guilty pleasure. I mean heck, that's pretty much the entire business model of Queen's Blade. |
Jul 5, 2011 7:47 PM
#82
Jul 5, 2011 10:26 PM
#83
That's just sad for the manga artist to buy so many copies of her work but I find that series enjoyable to watch. |
Jul 5, 2011 10:41 PM
#84
aww poor girl... |
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Jul 8, 2011 4:52 AM
#86
Sounds like it was poorly marketed. If it's an "ecchi" romcom then market it as such instead of pretending it's the closest thing to hentai we can put on television. Baka to Test was Exactly What It Said On The Tin. That sold. It doesn't entirely prove my point, but still. Accurately saying what something is about will get more people to check it out. |
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Jul 8, 2011 10:23 AM
#87
Arts = good, Voice = good Story = kiddy show But the Background = not for kid Target = lolicon, a small group in 20+ or middle aged otaku, and they prefer ecchi or even pron. The author's drawing is cute overall. But I think it'd be a waste for her to draw hentai stuff. She only need a better story in mind. She did have financial problem when she was starting her career as an illustrator for novels in Tokyo. She had once wanted to quit and leave Tokyo. May be that's why her money talks get easily noticed by fans. |
Jul 8, 2011 4:46 PM
#88
Jul 8, 2011 6:37 PM
#89
AO968 said: This is one of the few cases where I heard an original creator being so distraught about an anime adaptation on his/her work not selling so well. Success or failure of an anime adaptation can actually determine whether the manga is allowed to continue. If sales of the original work are marginal, the failure of an anime (i.e. doesn't move many DVDs, doesn't turn the manga into a big hit, doesn't create a merchandising machine) tells the publisher that there's little potential for growth. That's when they consider dropping the series in favor of something new. In that regard, authors have every reason to be concerned about the popularity of adaptations. |
Jul 9, 2011 1:26 PM
#90
You see this anime ALSO had potential (other one im disappointed was hidan no aria) i mean ppl think fan service is everything, but if they included a huge plot twist viewers would have loved it (for example: azuha apparently has "wearing underwear more than 7 days will turn her into great demon that can easily destroy the world) if they did something like this (i know its horrible) it would have been tiny bit better (my point was they could have put some kind of twist to it at the end |
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Jul 26, 2011 12:10 PM
#91
BigSimo said: err they have to drink cum to keep themselves looking good. the simple fact that THIS even exists in the show automatically sets it a cut below everything else. that is, unless the synopsis is lying and this isn't actually a part of the show...? The synopsis is lying and it isn't part of the show. -.- It wasn't extremely heartwarming to me, and I had a bad impression through the first episode. I still liked it somewhat though. Poor mangaka. =( |
Jul 29, 2011 3:57 PM
#92
TJR said: Success or failure of an anime adaptation can actually determine whether the manga is allowed to continue. That's the first time I've ever heard of this in my entire life. Where did you get that from? Did you read it somewhere or is it something that you are making up yourself? TJR said: If sales of the original work are marginal, the failure of an anime (i.e. doesn't move many DVDs, doesn't turn the manga into a big hit, doesn't create a merchandising machine) tells the publisher that there's little potential for growth. That's when they consider dropping the series in favor of something new. That made absolutely no sense. If the sales of the original work are marginal, why would anybody make an anime adaptation out of it? Anime is extremely expensive to make, so they always make anime out of popular/highly successful mangas so when they invest in an animation project, there is an already existent fanbase to support the show. That's one of the reasons why anime-original projects are so rare (they are very risky, financially speaking compared with anime adaptations made of already established franchises.) |
Aug 28, 2011 2:06 PM
#93
l thought this show was excellent and was saddened to hear of the poor sales. l thought it was cute, fun, heartwarming and had the just right amount of fanservice. |
Sep 10, 2011 9:44 PM
#94
jmal said: StealMate said: Isn't this the Hayate no Gotoku rip-off? ...What? That's... an interesting spin on it. I don't think that superficial similarities make a show a rip-off. I've seen both Lotte and Hayate, and no they really are not terribly similar, let alone one being a ripoff of the other. I just watched the anime version of 'Toy' and read the manga of HnG regularly, and almost every character immediately connected with a HnG character. It wasn't a rip-off of it, but the connections were very clear. The male and female leads connections to Hayate and Nagi were like beacons to the rest of the cast. |
Sep 11, 2011 6:26 AM
#95
Good. This anime was horrible and boring. |
Sep 12, 2011 10:48 AM
#96
Well i kinda liked this show, at first i was kinda scared of watching it because the "age gap" but then it turned into something hilarious and i really think this deserves a 2nd season. In a side note, i really think that their "love" can be turned into "father/daughter" instead of "husband/wife" this is just my idea though, but since in her world age doesnt matter you just have to watch the anime thinking of that rule. |
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Sep 12, 2011 11:23 AM
#97
Sep 12, 2011 3:28 PM
#98
Ruledragon said: In a side note, i really think that their "love" can be turned into "father/daughter" instead of "husband/wife" this is just my idea though, but since in her world age doesnt matter you just have to watch the anime thinking of that rule. The final episode STRONGLY suggests that this is NOT what the feelings between the two were. A lot of people where put off because they liked the Father/Daughter vibes, and that was shot to hell. |
Nov 3, 2011 1:55 AM
#99
The worst problem with this show is Naoya. I just can't convince myself that Naoya ia guy. He is more onee-san like. That totally destroyed any possible tension in this show. Hayate's character is quite similar to Naoya(a butler voiced by a female seiyuu who doesn't feign much interest in the main character) but he is many times better. They should have made a yuri show instead of this. |
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