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Jan 19, 2009 12:39 AM

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Hydrazoid said:
The fight sequence was awsome, no doubt about that. Story wise, Im rather confused. Its disappointing to see Index and the vampire killer out of this arc. They are the lead, especially Index, but there is barely any presence of her in several episodes already.



That's what brought my rating of to aru down a notch, possibly another if this doesn't get better. I don't wanna see the two biggest anime cliches duking it out for that much longer, since we know who's gonna win anyway... :/

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You fail to realize gravity is a vector force like all other forces that affect matter.
Thank you, wanted to point that out myself


So why doesnt he just fling everyone up in the air and chuck em around? That might be fun. And if we get down to it, theres a lot of other fun vectors he could play with, like that of individual atoms. Why doesn't he just shoot an atom through someone's stomach or face, or possibly shoot the moon at 10000000000000000000000000 miles an hour into someone's head?
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theeggman85 said:


Kvakond said:
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You fail to realize gravity is a vector force like all other forces that affect matter.
Thank you, wanted to point that out myself


So why doesnt he just fling everyone up in the air and chuck em around? That might be fun. And if we get down to it, theres a lot of other fun vectors he could play with, like that of individual atoms. Why doesn't he just shoot an atom through someone's stomach or face, or possibly shoot the moon at 10000000000000000000000000 miles an hour into someone's head?
I think he uses something similar to rip people apart from inside, but there's one thing people need to realize. I think the most likely answer here is that the writer just didn't have any cool varied ideas on how Accelerator could use his powers. The more "animeverse" version would be that Accelerator, like all Espers, has limits (otherwise he wouldn't be trying to increase his power level).

Also, he needs to be in extremely close contact of the object whose vectors he wants to manipulate. That's why he needs to touch people to use his power on them. From the rocks he "kicks", to the particles in the air he manipulates to cause the explosion, everything he manipulates needs to be in direct contact.

So, in terms of the anime, he likely has limits in range and size of the objects whose vectors he manipulates, and in meta-terms... the author likely couldn't picture anything beyond "let's make him create cool explosions and throw objects at the enemy!".

Jan 19, 2009 8:21 PM
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It's more along the lines that if they didn't assign Accelerator limits on his power and allowed him to use vectors to their full capacity it would make things unbelievably trippy and requiring unessairy scientific explanation as he could mess with vectors such as area, volume, and even position relative to something else and also allow him to teleport nearly anywhere by rehastablising his location relative to something else and allow him to travel at light speed by accelerating himself etc... Also why are they defining kinetic energy and stuff like that as vectors? aren't those scalar quantities?
Jan 19, 2009 8:30 PM

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Dan9119 said:
Also why are they defining kinetic energy and stuff like that as vectors? aren't those scalar quantities?


I think they're just boiling vectors down to "this goes this direction this fast".
Feb 2, 2009 1:07 PM

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Accelerator's power is ridiculous - he's to strong. It makes no sense, it seems like he can do anything - it's way stronger than telekinesis.
Feb 16, 2009 7:16 PM

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noteDhero said:
"against all logic i'll fight you"

Well, it's not like it hasn't been obvious that imagine breaker would be the most effective tool ever against this foe since the beginning.

But I know where you're coming from, it's like Touma has ever known this or ever come with any sort of strategy that wasn't at the last minute. But hey, I guess that's just not your thing they. I've always loved this anime staple, because it's feel good. You certainly won't get away from it in what was the most popular Anime on this website, Gurren Lagann, where the magnitude of "let's just do it" is off the scale.

Must be my ENFP for liking such a thing. And not basing enjoyment on logic. But I'll give it a high rating because I like that sort of thing myself. A 4 out of ten I'd say. Not masterpiece stuff, but we're just getting started and it's very entertaining.

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Feb 16, 2009 7:29 PM

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ukonkivi said:
Must be my ENFP for liking such a thing. And not basing enjoyment on logic. But I'll give it a high rating because I like that sort of thing myself. A 4 out of ten I'd say. Not masterpiece stuff, but we're just getting started and it's very entertaining.


ENFP? Like how I'm an INFJ? Meyer's Brigg's test?
Feb 16, 2009 8:57 PM

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Yes, a reference to being emotional and judging things on how I emotionally like them.
And not on logic. I suppose it's possible being an ENFP helps with liking ridiculous feel good situations.

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Feb 16, 2009 8:59 PM

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ukonkivi said:
Yes, a reference to being emotional and judging things on how I emotionally like them.
And not on logic. I suppose it's possible being an ENFP helps with liking ridiculous feel good situations.


Feeling is the best, the logic is good but i love being an INFJ.

Meyers Briggs is an awesome and scarily accurate test, but they charge too much -.-
Mar 13, 2009 7:39 PM
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love accelerators laugh!
May 1, 2009 4:34 AM

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Its about time for the fight to begin. It's annoying to see Touma just rushing to fight Accelerator. I mean, his only power is to block his powers. I don't see how he can win, but of course he will. They always manage to somehow defy logic.
Oct 6, 2009 1:18 AM

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Wonder what will Touma do..i don't see any way to defeat Accelerator
Oct 9, 2009 10:27 AM

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Laevantein said:
Wonder what will Touma do..i don't see any way to defeat Accelerator
Well technically it's very easy, Touma only needs to hug him =P

That way Accelerators power will be rendered useless and it will more or less come down to an ordinary wrestling match between to school boys.
Which he at least stand a good chance of winning.

The bathhouse scene with Komoe further explaining espers was pure win, love the part when all three put the hands on their hips and chugged that coffee milk xD
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All the talking in this anime makes it kinda slow but it does have some nice fights.
Jan 18, 2010 4:42 PM

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Okay, I'm fucking wondering how Touma dodged all those metals from Accelarator. Touma was like a fucking ninja back there. Heck, he dodged every projectile and that powerful kick from Accelerator, and his condition was still bad because of Mikoto.

I think that sister Misaka is starting to gain emotions. He's falling for Touma since he tried to save her, lol. Anyways, that scene between Mikoto and Touma on the bridge was kinda touching. Mikoto cares for Touma since she didn't leave him there.

I wonder what's going to happen. Don't tell me Touma survived that explosion in the end. If he did, he's a one heck of an esper.
Apr 21, 2010 5:21 AM

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Accelerator is mad crazy. I really wonder how Touma is going to defeat him like this.
Sometimes I think Touma has a death wish. He's too reckless.
Aug 16, 2010 5:30 PM
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I feel like Accelerator is in the wrong show. He should be in a different show where he can fight someone closer to his power level. But then, in any other show he would probably be totally undefeatable, so... yeah.
Oct 6, 2010 10:04 AM

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Accelerator is crazy but his powers are incredible. I wonder how Touma is going to beat him? Great episode and cliffhanger.
Dec 17, 2010 6:04 AM

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Hydrazoid said:
Its disappointing to see Index and the vampire killer out of this arc. They are the lead, especially Index, but there is barely any presence of her in several episodes already.

Yeah... I had started thinking this a few episodes back. But, then again, Touma's the real protagonist... I just thought that Index would have a bigger role because, I mean, the series title has her name in it. XD

Either way, I did really enjoy the episode, though I don't see (at least at this point in time) how Touma will beat Accelerator. I hope he actually initiated the... "fight" (if you can call it that, since, like Misaka said, most "battles" to Accelerator are more like one-way, surefire roads to death) with some sort of battle scheme in mind...
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Jan 15, 2011 4:09 PM

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How the fuck is Touma still a LEVEL 0? Jeeeeezuuuussss.

And holy shit, Accelerator is one overpowered son of a gun.
Jan 21, 2011 3:31 PM

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Wow what an ingenious use for a weapon and the wheat flour bomb/dust explosion is real too! O_o At least I learned something new today... :D
You see there's no need to wonder where your god is,
Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy.
Feb 5, 2011 7:43 PM

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lol this is might just be the biggest harem ever with like 10k+:1 ratio
huh?
Feb 23, 2011 11:19 AM

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Evil Accelerator is evil. O_O

Hopefully Touma will stop running away and actually figure something out next episode.

Apr 15, 2011 7:07 AM
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Accelerator's power is amazing. Controlling vectors is just purely awesome. I don't think Touma really knew what he was getting into but he sure has a chance as long as he's able to make physical contact. Since Accelerator seems to be physically weak, if Touma can render his powers useless with his amazing right hand, he has a shot. I just don't know how he'll survive the dust explosion. Yet again, I have no idea how he survived the shocks from Misaka last episode...
May 28, 2011 11:48 PM

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OftheFlesh said:
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Really nice episode. Loved the looked of Accelerator's face when Touma slapped his hand away. Can't wait to see how this battle turns out.


He could have punched him or something when Accelerator was still at wtf mode but he just stared at him 0_0 and also Accelerator's arm raising has to stop ( especially the second time he stomped the ground) it's redundant and he looks awkward doing that.

that excalty wat i was thinking. i know both were in shock mode, but if i was him i would have taken that opportunity and punch him. he would be able to deflect becuz the imagine most likely will stop him.


Jun 7, 2011 7:55 AM

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Forgive my pervertness, but I think Touma is dreaming of making love with 10k+ clones XD Is he blind or something, why did he tell that a clone is unique? How can't he get such easy things in this high-tech world? Perharps he missed some classes in bilology/physics or something of this kind.
Accelerator is so nice! I was going to drop this show, but damned cliffhanger and Accelerator's pretty mad face made me continue watching...

Go, Accelerator, go!
I think he should use only distant attacks, Touma won't be able to dodge ANY TIME.
Aug 4, 2011 12:10 PM

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The weakest of the academy vs. the strongest of the academy!
really funny when Accelerator was like, "haah"? when he came into contact with Touma.
Aug 16, 2011 12:16 AM

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Accelerator is one sick fuck ... I love it :D He's killed the same girl a LOT of times ... how is that even possible? He must be killing them off a dozen or so a night. I'd think it would get boring, killing the same person over and over and over just in the hope that you might level up off of it. But then, I just described a typical RPG grind X_X

5/5, one of the best so far. On to the fight!
Mar 10, 2012 1:26 PM

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Wait so that "alchemist" was just a superpowered esper then?

Also, talk about overpowered damn accelerator. looks to be an exciting battle though.
Jul 30, 2012 10:28 PM

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I laughed when Touma slapped Accelerator's hand away - they both looked pretty shocked about it but Accelerator's reaction was the best.

Also, when Accelerator started laughing crazily at the end he really sounded like Nizuma Eiji from Bakuman then. I half expected him to start shouting something like "Let's Hospital!".

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Aug 19, 2012 10:21 PM
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Touma's right hand doesn't protect him against physical stuff. And Accelerator is tossing stuff at him. How's he gonna get Accelerator without any offensive power? Don't think Touma can even get "close" to Accelerator to punch him. Now might be a good time to enter Index o.O. Yeah!!! enter that magic stuff would be nice to fight that crazy esper power...Maybe Index can pull something from the 103000 grimoires or Stiyl suddenly come to help! Looks pretty hopeless at the moment, don't be a FAIL hero Touma! >,<
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Oct 30, 2012 12:18 PM

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Loved this fight and accelerator has a crazy laugh; him getting slapped and then getting mad was funny, like its the first time he's been slapped mwuahaha
Jan 31, 2013 10:55 AM

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Oh boy that was nice the talk with the girls at the beginning was rather fun switching massage seat every time they answer :p

And the first start of the fight was epic, lets see what the end will be like!
Apr 17, 2013 1:30 PM

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5/5...!!

Finally after a lot of chatter starts the waltz between Touma and Accelerator, the designs are always a bit rough as the animations, but the narrative after the parenthesis fun of public toilets with the teacher, becomes intriguing, I want to see the beatings and blood! ^^"
Jun 9, 2013 3:28 AM

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A nice episode here. I couldn't restrain myself from laughing with voice when Touma slapped Accelerator's hand, ahahahahaha.

Darn thеse cliffhangers.
Jul 2, 2013 1:58 PM

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No time to rate or discuss see you at ep 14 discussion
Nov 28, 2013 2:52 AM

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damn accelerator is really badass guy..
but.. oh boy he got beated by touma by punch? I see he is not good on fighting :o
Nov 29, 2013 8:40 PM
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that laugh
Dec 12, 2013 4:49 PM

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makarov52 said:
damn accelerator is really badass guy..

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that laugh
These :D
Man is he strong, I wonder how he will be defeated. Probably will have to flee for some reason.

I also feel like I'm watching 2 anime's at the same time, the first few episodes with more magic and the last few episodes with no memory and less magic.
Amazing anime :), this could have influenced me quite a lot in what and whom I would like now, if I would have seen it back when it aired.
Jan 14, 2014 8:07 AM
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For all the show's faults, it's reasonably good entertainment ^^
Feb 23, 2014 4:40 PM

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could Toma's girl slap, be any more funny ...

clone 10032 has a little crush on our hero too
Apr 18, 2014 2:16 PM
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Interesting episode. I liked his reaction when this power was deflected.
Jul 25, 2014 8:01 PM

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Okay, Accelerator is way too OP xD
He's literally invincible. His only flaw would be Touma power, but Touma power have so much flaw that it's easy to exploit. That vector thing... It make him able to do almost everything. He could even teleport like Misaka imouto by using some crazy vector.

How can he have survived that explosion? It's impossible to get out of it without some serious burn.

Misaka will probably soon enter the fight, along with the cat who probably hold some ultimate power... dun dun dun...

Pretty weird how the sensei explained esper power. It sounded exactly as what the alchemist was doing. So was the alchemist doing a unstable form of esper power?
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Jul 26, 2014 3:37 AM

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Okay, Accelerator is way too OP xD
He's literally invincible. His only flaw would be Touma power, but Touma power have so much flaw that it's easy to exploit. That vector thing... It make him able to do almost everything. He could even teleport like Misaka imouto by using some crazy vector.

How can he have survived that explosion? It's impossible to get out of it without some serious burn.

Misaka will probably soon enter the fight, along with the cat who probably hold some ultimate power... dun dun dun...

Pretty weird how the sensei explained esper power. It sounded exactly as what the alchemist was doing. So was the alchemist doing a unstable form of esper power?

Adaptation decay.
Touam isnt IN the explosion.

No.An esper can change reality even down to the laws.Alchemy cant change laws.
If Izzard was using an esper power he would die.
Aug 15, 2014 1:32 PM

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Omg dat laugh xDDD I won't be able to sleep.
Aug 26, 2014 4:00 PM

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He's gonna get his ass hande to him hahaha. Looks like Misaka will be the hero this time.
Sep 6, 2014 8:32 PM

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Accelerator is the very essence of love and life.

Sep 7, 2014 7:48 AM

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best fucking laugh...

laughable and predictable ep though...

brb white hair dude is gonna get knocked out by this 'lvl 0' dude with right hand that can dispel lvl 9000 moves

strong fail logic
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Head-on static charge .
The level to defeat .
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Oh god that laugh was fucking terrible
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