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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Interesting episode.. It was nice to see Nagate get back from danger and boy, he's in a good mood now. Ofc, he deserved the praise for his actions so I thought the respect he has earned was legit. The episode was calm and the atmosphere was much brighter than some of the others. Yuhata returns too and I sensed a little rivalry going on. |
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| Watched it raw once again because this show has the slowest subbers I can recall in the past few years, at least. Not a good episode to watch raw, since it was all talking XD I assume Tanikaze really fucked up somehow and lost memories of the event, which will likely be explained next ep. At least short hair girl seems to be on his side. |
ex_necross said: I assume Tanikaze really fucked up somehow and lost memories of the event, which will likely be explained next ep. At least short hair girl seems to be on his side. Tanikaze is the scapegoat of the show. Man, I feel sorry for him. |
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| Oh, no, Hoshijiro... |
| Watashi Subs are still at episode 2. Underwater's delayed. Welp. Judging from these guys who watched the raw and understood it (lucky qq), Hoshijiro.. OH NO QQ!! Gonna edit this after watching. :/ EDIT: Tanikaze becoming a full-fledged Gardes pilot was wonderful. I don't know why but I think the black uniform suits him more. I don't like the mask-men (lol) in those little UFO-like beds. Dispose Nagate? wut Hahaha, now they all gave him a lot of rice sacks. xD Oh the rivalry of the 3 girls. Izana didn't get enough screentime recently so it was good to see her more in here. Hoshiijiro Shizuka Fallen. I liked how they cut the battle because there weren't enough time until episode end. Next episode: "Resolve" |
NakatoshiMay 18, 2014 1:50 AM
"The one true, unchanging righteousness in the world is..cuteness! Cute makes right! All our needs, desires, and instincts seek cuteness, and it is for cuteness that we will give everything we have! That's just the way men are!" - Sora |
Visualized said: Watashi Subs are still at episode 2. Underwater's delayed. Welp. Judging from these guys who watched the raw and understood it (lucky qq), Hoshijiro.. OH NO QQ!! Gonna edit this after watching. :/ I wonder how many subbers are working on that No Game No Life and Mahouka Koukou garbage? I'd probably be pretty pissed off if I knew. This community as a whole needs to get its priorities straight :/ |
| Nagate's harem in 20 minutes. And Hoshijiro is dead after it. lol I like this steep dive. |
motherharlot said: Humza_96 said: ex_necross said: Visualized said: Watashi Subs are still at episode 2. Underwater's delayed. Welp. Judging from these guys who watched the raw and understood it (lucky qq), Hoshijiro.. OH NO QQ!! Gonna edit this after watching. :/ I wonder how many subbers are working on that No Game No Life and Mahouka Koukou garbage? I'd probably be pretty pissed off if I knew. This community as a whole needs to get its priorities straight :/ No Game No Life is a lot better than this show and so is Mahouko Koukou No Rettousei. Mainly because this show has a lack of atmosphere and everything seems slow. I think Sidonia is one of those shows where you really like it or you really don't. But in saying that yeah the subbers are slow. Mahouka and NGNL are both garbage compared to this. Clearly the subbers do not agree. Either be patient or learn Japanese and translate it yourself. |
Humza_96 said: ex_necross said: Visualized said: Watashi Subs are still at episode 2. Underwater's delayed. Welp. Judging from these guys who watched the raw and understood it (lucky qq), Hoshijiro.. OH NO QQ!! Gonna edit this after watching. :/ I wonder how many subbers are working on that No Game No Life and Mahouka Koukou garbage? I'd probably be pretty pissed off if I knew. This community as a whole needs to get its priorities straight :/ No Game No Life is a lot better than this show and so is Mahouko Koukou No Rettousei. Mainly because this show has a lack of atmosphere and everything seems slow. I think Sidonia is one of those shows where you really like it or you really don't. But in saying that yeah the subbers are slow. I feel like it's completely the other way around with the whole atmosphere thing. Sidonia no Kishi absolutely excels at atmosphere with the setting, pacing, music and sound effects that really serve to set the mood while the other shows just kind of feel like a pastiche of stuff you can find in almost any show with no real direction or persistent tone. They're just kind of unremarkable so far even if both have their moments while Sidonia no Kishi is something you don't really get all that often anymore and has been consistently engrossing so far. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: Humza_96 said: ex_necross said: Visualized said: Watashi Subs are still at episode 2. Underwater's delayed. Welp. Judging from these guys who watched the raw and understood it (lucky qq), Hoshijiro.. OH NO QQ!! Gonna edit this after watching. :/ I wonder how many subbers are working on that No Game No Life and Mahouka Koukou garbage? I'd probably be pretty pissed off if I knew. This community as a whole needs to get its priorities straight :/ No Game No Life is a lot better than this show and so is Mahouko Koukou No Rettousei. Mainly because this show has a lack of atmosphere and everything seems slow. I think Sidonia is one of those shows where you really like it or you really don't. But in saying that yeah the subbers are slow. I feel like it's completely the other way around with the whole atmosphere thing. Sidonia no Kishi absolutely excels at atmosphere with the setting, pacing, music and sound effects that really serve to set the mood while the other shows just kind of feel like a pastiche of stuff you can find in almost any show with no real direction or persistent tone. They're just kind of unremarkable so far even if both have their moments while Sidonia no Kishi is something you don't really get all that often anymore and has been consistently engrossing so far. Agree competely with this. Spot on. Sidonia is one of the very few shows on this season that offers something different to the standard fare. I'd say Ping Pong is another. The irony is that a huge international media company like Netflix liked the concept of Sidonia enough to buy the international rights to it and will start streaming it in the summer. So it could end up having a much larger mainstream appeal than some of these other shows mentioned which will remain firmly otaku-centric. Edit: Just read Underwater's blog and they're saying that the subs are delayed because their translators for Sidonia are really busy. So whoever wrote they we're dropping it is full of...you know. |
FarabeufMay 16, 2014 11:55 PM
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| If only this show was two cour........ |
Marzan said: For me, I quite enjoy NGNL and a bit of Mahouka but clearly I enjoy Sidonia the most. By the way, HorribleSubs subbed Ars Nova yet they didn't do this one. And Netflix streaming this is wonderful. More people can enjoy it.Kaioshin_Sama said: Humza_96 said: ex_necross said: Visualized said: Watashi Subs are still at episode 2. Underwater's delayed. Welp. Judging from these guys who watched the raw and understood it (lucky qq), Hoshijiro.. OH NO QQ!! Gonna edit this after watching. :/ I wonder how many subbers are working on that No Game No Life and Mahouka Koukou garbage? I'd probably be pretty pissed off if I knew. This community as a whole needs to get its priorities straight :/ No Game No Life is a lot better than this show and so is Mahouko Koukou No Rettousei. Mainly because this show has a lack of atmosphere and everything seems slow. I think Sidonia is one of those shows where you really like it or you really don't. But in saying that yeah the subbers are slow. I feel like it's completely the other way around with the whole atmosphere thing. Sidonia no Kishi absolutely excels at atmosphere with the setting, pacing, music and sound effects that really serve to set the mood while the other shows just kind of feel like a pastiche of stuff you can find in almost any show with no real direction or persistent tone. They're just kind of unremarkable so far even if both have their moments while Sidonia no Kishi is something you don't really get all that often anymore and has been consistently engrossing so far. Agree competely with this. Spot on. Sidonia is one of the very few shows on this season that offers something different to the standard fare. I'd say Ping Pong is another. The irony is that a huge international media company like Netflix liked the concept of Sidonia enough to buy the international rights to it and will start streaming it in the summer. So it could end up having a much larger mainstream appeal than some of these other shows mentioned which will remain firmly otaku-centric. Edit: Just read Underwater's blog and they're saying that the subs are delayed because their translators for Sidonia are really busy. So whoever wrote they we're dropping it is full of...you know. |
"The one true, unchanging righteousness in the world is..cuteness! Cute makes right! All our needs, desires, and instincts seek cuteness, and it is for cuteness that we will give everything we have! That's just the way men are!" - Sora |
Humza_96 said: ex_necross said: Visualized said: Watashi Subs are still at episode 2. Underwater's delayed. Welp. Judging from these guys who watched the raw and understood it (lucky qq), Hoshijiro.. OH NO QQ!! Gonna edit this after watching. :/ I wonder how many subbers are working on that No Game No Life and Mahouka Koukou garbage? I'd probably be pretty pissed off if I knew. This community as a whole needs to get its priorities straight :/ No Game No Life is a lot better than this show and so is Mahouko Koukou No Rettousei. Mainly because this show has a lack of atmosphere and everything seems slow. I think Sidonia is one of those shows where you really like it or you really don't. But in saying that yeah the subbers are slow. Thank you for making a joke. Oh wait, you actually believe that generic cliched bullshit like Mahouka(school-life? check. Overpowered gary stu lead? check. incest-y sister? check) is genuinely good? Ohkay then. Sidonia is genuinely well-paced with actually deep and complex lore that is not spoonfed to you and it manages to still have the "usual anime stuff" like a school and harems, but WITHOUT making it generic and derivative. The only way to describe Sidonia is fresh. |
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| Btw, I don't really know how subbing even works, are they getting payed for this or have any kind of profit or its just for fun? I guess we can't demand anything if it's the latter; |
| I WANT MY NEW EPISODE OF SIDONIA TRANSLATED, ARGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH |
Humza_96 said: Fai said: Humza_96 said: ex_necross said: Visualized said: Watashi Subs are still at episode 2. Underwater's delayed. Welp. Judging from these guys who watched the raw and understood it (lucky qq), Hoshijiro.. OH NO QQ!! Gonna edit this after watching. :/ I wonder how many subbers are working on that No Game No Life and Mahouka Koukou garbage? I'd probably be pretty pissed off if I knew. This community as a whole needs to get its priorities straight :/ No Game No Life is a lot better than this show and so is Mahouko Koukou No Rettousei. Mainly because this show has a lack of atmosphere and everything seems slow. I think Sidonia is one of those shows where you really like it or you really don't. But in saying that yeah the subbers are slow. Thank you for making a joke. Oh wait, you actually believe that generic cliched bullshit like Mahouka(school-life? check. Overpowered gary stu lead? check. incest-y sister? check) is genuinely good? Ohkay then. Sidonia is genuinely well-paced with actually deep and complex lore that is not spoonfed to you and it manages to still have the "usual anime stuff" like a school and harems, but WITHOUT making it generic and derivative. The only way to describe Sidonia is fresh. An elite squad failed to take down the Gauna, yet the main character did it by himself. And you don't see that as an 'over-powered Gary Stu lead'? I'll admit Sidonia is fresh but then again Pupa was also new and 'fresh' yet that's probably the shittest anime to come out this year. The best way to explain what I mean by lack of atmosphere would be JoJo. Watch the new JoJo: Stardust Crusaders and then watch the older one. Everything seems slow and lifeless in the older one. I don't really see what's so deep and complex about this. What you define as 'deep' I'd just say that's because we don't know much about the past and what exactly happened to humanity. There's nothing complex about this show it's very straightforward, apart from a talking bear. It actually oozes atmosphere. It's just the Tsutomu Nihei kind of atmosphere. Slightly eerie, disconcerting and filled with a feeling of foreboding. I agree with you in that it's not deep. It's actually the most straightforward and simple story Nihei has ever made IMO. But please don't say something like Mahouka is better than this. You come off as a troll instead as someone trying to make a serious argument. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
Humza_96 said: An elite squad failed to take down the Gauna, yet the main character did it by himself. And you don't see that as an 'over-powered Gary Stu lead'? I'll admit Sidonia is fresh but then again Pupa was also new and 'fresh' yet that's probably the shittest anime to come out this year. Every show has the protagonist succeeding in their first battle against the odds though. Also there definitely is something not right with Nagato, so... Humza_96 said: The best way to explain what I mean by lack of atmosphere would be JoJo. Watch the new JoJo: Stardust Crusaders and then watch the older one. Everything seems slow and lifeless in the older one. I think you're confusing "atmosphere" for colour palette, the Jojo anime barely has what you're calling an atmosphere, the first season barely even has a budget. lol. Humza_96 said: I don't really see what's so deep and complex about this. What you define as 'deep' I'd just say that's because we don't know much about the past and what exactly happened to humanity. There's nothing complex about this show it's very straightforward, apart from a talking bear. It's a survival anime with hard science fiction elements, the fact you know very little like the main characters makes it more engaging to watch because you're on equal footing with them. |
ligonis1337 said: Marzan said: Humza_96 said: It actually oozes atmosphere. It's just the Tsutomu Nihei kind of atmosphere. Slightly eerie, disconcerting and filled with a feeling of foreboding. I agree with you in that it's not deep. It's actually the most straightforward and simple story Nihei has ever made IMO. But please don't say something like Mahouka is better than this. You come off as a troll instead as someone trying to make a serious argument. Rating is completely subjective, tho the average mass probably indicates if it's worth watching or not, 55% of the people who watch steins;gate consider it a masterpiece whilst there are others who dont perceive it as such. Does it mean FMA (ranked 1 iirc?) is better? Same could be applied to the comparison of Mahouka and Sidonia. I find both excellent series, but you can't force your point of view to someone. If someone thinks mars of destruction is a masterpiece (for whatever reasons whatsoever), that's his opini-err... problem. Rating is hype, nothing more nothing less. Quality that diferentiates spoonfed generic kitsch from true worthy works is purely objective. Just because someone likes the generic nonsense that is Mahouka, does not make it any less bad or any less devoid of any sort of substance or complexity. |
AversaMay 20, 2014 12:28 PM
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| Mahouka is better than this show? LOL funny. Weird. |
| At least Sidonia is not shit enough to be ignored by subbers, as for Mahouka I find it more slowpaced and boring, but as I heard, it will get better; |
| You've got to be kidding me. He makes the perfect harem in the perfect atmosphere with spite of jealous girls overflowing like nothing else.... and the next moment his prime waifu gets killed off. I'd be flipping tables if I was Tanikaze. I actually fucking liked Hoshijiro dammit. I'll agree that No Game No Life might be on the same level as Knights of Sidonia, but Mahouka is drivel in comparison. It introduces nothing innovative and repeatedly plays on the same generic character archetypes - just another emotionally-conflicted chauvinist stomping through the entire show trying to act calm and cool, but unable to repudiate even the basic of coercion by the people around him. These kinds of fundamentally-backwards characters refute the progress that anime is making. If anyone thinks that "good anime" each season is dictated by what the fs groups choose to subs, then I applaud them for surviving this long without the inability to think for themselves. Surely, at this point in life everyone's had a person or two tell you to "go kill yourself". Being able to survive those death flags must have been some fortune, indeed. Most FS groups have no idea which anime are good and, like many spineless male leads, get lost in the boobs and butts instead of subbing the ones with substance. Anime as good as Knight of Sidonia warrants watching raws, even if that means spending an extra few minutes looking up unfamiliar vocabulary words. It's in times like these that knowledge of Japanese really shows its worth. |
HowTragicMay 17, 2014 12:26 PM
| i saw someone post this show lacks atmosphere... get real! this show is dripping with atmosphere! mahouka is overhyped crap at this point with some pain in the ass/annoying characters like miyuki with her nii-san complex. this is a typical show with an overpowered main male character and people are buzzing like flies around this shit. |
ligonis1337 said: How can anyone who hasn't read the LNs of Mahouka even have a say on this? The first arc which is the most boring is just full of character build-up and infodump with a few action scenes here and there. The fun begins after. You can't judge a book by its cover. P.S: The fansub groups are doing you a favor, if you don't like it then go translate it yourself. You can't complain when you get something for free. Why should I read the LN full of spoilers to say my opinion about anime, besides my comments were more on neutral side than negative, you said it yourself about boring arc. I think I still have a right to be depressed about every title translated, except Sidonia, it didn't deserve it. Interesting how would you feel if they ignored your Steins;Gate that way, probably you would go translating it yourself?;D |
sadfacelvMay 17, 2014 1:05 PM
HowTragic said: I'll agree that No Game No Life might be on the same level as Knights of Sidonia, but Mahouka is drivel in comparison. It introduces nothing innovative and repeatedly plays on the same generic character archetypes - just another emotionally-conflicted chauvinist stomping through the entire show trying to act calm and cool, but unable to repudiate even the basic of coercion by the people around him. These kinds of fundamentally-backwards characters refute the progress that anime is making. Every season has that one show that is nothing more but a mish-mash of the most generic anime tropes possible, all glued together with sexism. Mahouka is "that show" of this season. ligonis1337 said: How can anyone who hasn't read the LNs of Mahouka even have a say on this? The first arc which is the most boring is just full of character build-up and infodump with a few action scenes here and there. The fun begins after. You can't judge a book by its cover. You should not have to "read the source material" for the work to be good.Every single LN adaptation gets overhyped by the blind fanbase of that light novel. this is no different and no matter what is in LN, does not change the overall genericness of the anime. Also no "just bear with it and get through all of this generic sucky shitty bullshit because then there's this one part that is good" is not an argument either. |
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| I haven't seen this episode yet but came here to see the responses, the votes got me hyped but I never expected to see an argument about NGNL or Mahouka. Dafuq.. |
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ligonis1337 said: You can't judge the series by watching *just* 6 episodes also. I'd accept the hate if it was halfway through or completed but its not even there. Hmm? Bear with it? I find the show quite enjoyable to say the least. It's an arc made only for character developement. If you want a series with mindless action from start to finish then you picked the wrong series. Giving six episodes to generic bullshit like Mahouka is not "unfair" its being generous, considering the show makes you want to drop it one episode after already. Sticking for 6 is damn commendable feat. What character development? Mahouka's characters are a bunch of anime cliches doing the cliched generic stuff every generic show has. The fact that the character designs look generic as hell does not help the show either. The gary stu lead haxxes through everything amassing an army of feeble and pointless female characters who each represents an anime stereotype(gotta attract those otaku with diverse selection of waifus). Even the setting (oh yay a magic school...) is the definition of cliched. There's absolutely no hook in that show to pay attention. Absolutely nothing that has not been done better or in the same way in the other half a dozen generic "high budget generic bullshit adaptations" every single year. |
AhenshihaelMay 17, 2014 2:23 PM
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| I don't even know what Mahouka has to do with this, but guys remember Steins;Gate was shit until around episodes 9-12 or something. |
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Humza_96 said: Mainly because this show has a lack of atmosphere and everything seems slow. Your troll attempt is bad and you should feel bad. |
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| I guess this season is pretty good if Mahouka is treated as bad example, I find it watchable, and I hope it will have something like plot twists, chalenging action or romance, if I were to name titles which are not worth such instant subbing, I would name winter season's titles like Sonico the animation, Saikin no Imouto and so on; Subbers sure hate CG huh?; |
| MAL is full of morons who are incapable of enjoying a show without bashing whatever is popular that season. Pay no mind to Fai, he's a troll with a serious case of projection (bringing up other shows in the middle of a show's thread in order to attract attention, then calling anyone who disagrees with him a 'troll' for daring to contradict him). In the meantime I'll be patiently waiting for this to get subbed, because there are plenty of other anime to watch in the meantime. |
Humza_96 said: I understand the overpowered main character but seriously what anime doesn't have one? Is nagate not overpowered? But for some reason when he's called OP there's a hidden reason so it all makes perfect sense. Nagate isn't that overpowered, he just know how to -effectively- fight the Gauna. Humza_96 said: Talking about generic/cliche- Nagate has an appetite larger than everyone else, that's definitely a new concept that's never been seen before in an anime. Remember that our MC is surrounded by Sidonians that can photosynthesize and eat only once a week. He only eats as much as a normal person would eat. Humza_96 said: Everyone seems to overlook the cliches in Sidonia. There is nothing to complain about cliches when they are well executed. People seriously need to stop complaining about Mahouka / NGNL in this thread. It's disgusting. |
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Humza_96 said: You should watch the whole anime than judge it, not just 6 episodes. I mean seriously if everyone watched the first few episodes of DBZ they'd say it was shit. It was just Gohan wandering in the woods for the first 2 episodes. The start of OP isn't exactly that great either. Cliche, generic, cliche, generic. Is that the only way you can describe it? At least give one sentence on why certain parts are cliche and generic. I understand the overpowered main character but seriously what anime doesn't have one? Is nagate not overpowered? But for some reason when he's called OP there's a hidden reason so it all makes perfect sense. But the same logic won't apply to another anime? You can't just pick and choose stuff like that. Once you watch all 26 episodes than say it's shit/generic/cliche/stereotypical. Talking about generic/cliche- Nagate has an appetite larger than everyone else, that's definitely a new concept that's never been seen before in an anime. Everyone seems to overlook the cliches in Sidonia. This is just cancer on page. But Sidonia and Mahouka are indeed at whole different levels of originality, and that's what makes Sidonia interesting and Mahouka boring for me. |
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Humza_96 said: You should watch the whole anime than judge it, not just 6 episodes. I mean seriously if everyone watched the first few episodes of DBZ they'd say it was shit. It was just Gohan wandering in the woods for the first 2 episodes. The start of OP isn't exactly that great either. Cliche, generic, cliche, generic. Is that the only way you can describe it? At least give one sentence on why certain parts are cliche and generic. I understand the overpowered main character but seriously what anime doesn't have one? Is nagate not overpowered? But for some reason when he's called OP there's a hidden reason so it all makes perfect sense. But the same logic won't apply to another anime? You can't just pick and choose stuff like that. Once you watch all 26 episodes than say it's shit/generic/cliche/stereotypical. Talking about generic/cliche- Nagate has an appetite larger than everyone else, that's definitely a new concept that's never been seen before in an anime. Everyone seems to overlook the cliches in Sidonia. Alright then, let me attempt this little "challenge" of yours. After all, the only real distinction between fanboys/haters and connoisseurs /critics of a series is that the latter is able to precisely describe what part was insufficient or appealing. Honestly, I'm also tired of using the world "generic" to describe these types of anime since it provides no contextual and analytical support, but no other single word gets the job done. But here, let me change that. Mahouka is an uninteresting anime because it tries to create a setting where a plot can thrive based on characters that are unscrupulously "fake", out-of-character, and worthless to the development of the story. Instead of being plot-driven like Sidonia, Mahouka puts the characters in a leisurely-paced school setting where plot is not the immediate focus, and holds no clear aim or goal for the series. The main character (whose name I don't remember, and don't feel like checking so I'll call him GMC) is essentially a clusterfuck of all the great virtues: just, chivalrous, stern, cool, kind, reserved, empathetic, etc; with all the overused cliches for conflict: family problems, low self-esteem, conflicting emotions, traumatic past, inferiority complex, etc. But in doing so, he becomes a "fake" character whose traits conflict with each other, and actions raises the question of who he really is, aka what uniquely defines his character. This mediocre presentation is compounded by the no-direction story holding him to a pedestal, trying to make him seem like the "perfect" character by manipulating our perception. For example, GMC obviously believes in minding his own business and hopes to not draw attention to himself due to his inferiority complex. Yet, in direct contrast to his character and hope, he stops the fight in the first few episode and draws direct attention to himself from the President and Moral Chairwoman, casually oozing his OPness in the process. He does this off unfounded consideration for others so they wouldn't get in trouble, but directly contradicts his own character, which is a stupid and illogical course of action through any way of thinking. This is even more apparent later when he agrees to join the Morals Committee after his dumbass boob of a sister insists for him to join the Student Council, despite knowing well that his brother isn't into that kind of thing and it wasn't allowed. Along the way the pickle-brained VP becomes more food to feed the rampage of this fake clusterfuck, and he himself agrees to join the committee for god knows whatever reason (cough* to greasily show of his superiority). MCs who need to waste valuable animation time to flex his OPness in the face of other characters are worthless MCs. In a desperate attempt to be all those things he has effectively become nothing. This is what generic is, and we see it quite a lot in anime nowadays. I'm not even going to waste much time on his sister Miyuki. I refuse to believe someone who is labeled as the "Top Freshman Student" is unable to think even meager things through before acting, and holds such an appalling lack of common sense and consideration. I don't think I need to repeat that bro-con and "goody-two-shoe" are very common, very "generic" traits in female characters, but she doesn't even match up to other characters with those traits, who have something more to offer. She's a dumb pair of boobs in the series, doing nothing and having nothing except the position that she was given in the series as the Top Student by the author and producer. Worthless. In contrast, Nagate doesn't try to fit these all these ideals to be the "perfect" character. Instead he only chooses a couple of them such as sincerity, and being true to his beliefs, but makes fantastic use of them in constructing a useful, dynamic and likable character. Although he is a character with flaw, it's that flaw that makes him an appropriate hero for the series, as we are able to encourage him when he falls, and cheer him on as he gets up again. He never acts contrary to his character, and does everything he can to adapt to the new environment while reaching towards his goal. He is real. It is not the overpoweredness that creates a bad character (because all MCs need some sort of distinction from other characters) but it's how you use that OPness. Nagate uses it in sync with his character and perpetuate the story, while GMC uses it to greasily show off while acting cool, accomplishing nothing in the process. Nagate's huge appetite is neither a cliche nor a major point for the story. His character is not defined by his huge appetite. It is a trivial, direct cause-effect situation embedded in the fact that he lived underground and did not develop like the rest of the humans. However, if you want to called the bear with a claw, Hiyami Lala, or what the fuck "Photosynthesizing together" means a "generic/cliche" point of the series, then I'd be greatly amused by how you will be supporting that claim. Like Fai said, "just bearing with it to get to the good stuff" is not an acceptable excuse. Mahouka could be the greatest anime ever starting on episode 12, but if the first 11 episodes are a little more monkeys flinging shit at each other, no one will buy that argument. Even novice writers, producers, directors, etc know that the two most important part of any composition is the opening and the conclusion. The opening draws in audience members, who might otherwise not even bother with the work, and the conclusion shows that their time was well spent on this composition. A series that doesn't even recognize that fundamental rule in production can hardly be called a good anime. P.S. @ligonis1337: The anime is a separate entity from the LN and should be treated as such. Thus your opinion gains no more credibility for reading the LN, especially if all you did was leech off Baka-Tsuki English translation of the original Japanese story. If you really want to slap someone with that epen0r, try learning Japanese and reading the original Japanese text. I can tell you from personal experience that it makes the English translation seem like ramblings from an elementary schooler. |
| Nice seeing Nagate finally getting some good treatment from his fellow mates. Alongside Nagate; Norio, Shizuka and Honoka also becomes full Gardes pilots. Not sure if Norio actually intends to be comrades with Nagate.. Can't trust this guy yet. Brief conversation with Captain Kobayashi was nice. I wonder if Nagate's grandfather was among the Knights of Sidonia. Yuhata has taken a good liking to Nagate; tried so hard to be alone with him. XD Too bad, Shizuka incidentally took the place instead. Nice Nagate X Shizuka moments in the Bathysphere. The Hive-type Gaunas just had to ruin it.. All of a sudden, Nagate is in a hospital and being criticized once he woke up. Shizuka has fallen?! :O Nani Kore?! Good episode with a huge cliffhanger at the end! |
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| Yuhata trying to get some alone time with Nagate lol, but damn poor Hoshijiro. I liked her too :( |
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| Such a horrible episode just some dumb harem shit with a super shitty ending. What were they thinking? |
HaytinMay 17, 2014 5:56 PM
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