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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- For a moment there, I thought they had the courage to kill Anna, but I'm glad Muller saved her (at the cost of his own life). |
| i have a feeling that if anna dies then johan will go on a rampage. |
| Anna looked like a mess but did she actually shoot the guy? |
| Can't say I fell sorry for Muller - he deserved everything he got. His gold digger wife will move on with her bratty son so meh. |
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| Wow. This episode was amazing. Not only did we get some action outside of Germany, we also encountered very good story AND character development. It got me a little bit confused. Those guys seem to be working for Johan. BUT, are they working to his orders, or freely. It seems odd that Johan would want Anna killed. If they are working under his orders it would confirm my previous hypothesis. Monster side of Johan doesn't care about Anna. That explains why he did not pick her up while she was held hostage at the fascist mansion few episodes back. If the Johan's monster side's goal is really to live happily, which would be very convenient to the general theory that the smarter you are more miserable your life is, then everything Tenma and Anna is trying to do is meaningless. What I am trying to say, is that they are trying to stop a monster from killing people. And what we understand in this episode, is that Johan is only eliminating his former caregivers, and everyone who is associated with his past. Of course, they do not know this now and will still continue to hunt Johan, but later on, if they find this out at the last moment, it will be a huge obstacle for Tenma and Anna to kill him, especially if he found a family and is living with them. But now that I think about it, if Johan's side would have wanted to kill Tenma, he would have done that at that building they first met after 9 years. This calls for another hypothesis. Either these guys are not working for Johan, and they are another fascist organization trying to get Johan join them or Johan had a use for Tenma before he is killed. I don't think he has done anything yet. But that does not nullify the hypothesis, because Roberto, if that is his real name, did not say that he needs to kill Tenma already. He only said that "only Dr. Tenma is left". Which only fortifies the hypothesis, because if they left Tenma last, it means that Tenma has his role in Johan's plans. P.S. I don't care if anyone is reading or understanding this. It's just that writing helps me think. And I come up with these ideas not when I am watching but while I am writing. |
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| Wasn't bad, even if it was a filler. |
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| I wonder if Mamiko Noto really shot. She's such a nice person though. If I were in her position, I would have kicked him off that cliff. |
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SpudUK said: Wasn't bad, even if it was a filler. So, how exactly is this filler? |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| there were to many variables that played out that it just felt like something was missing |
 Behold of my awesomeness~ controversial and/or sensitive topics likely devolve into the same repetitive, derogatory, abusive, and harassing comments can no longer be posted. But my feels. |
| I really hope Muller isn't dead. :( |
| Poor Muller. :( |
Life is really simple, but we insist on making it complicated.~ |
| I don't feel sorry for Muller. |
| great episode |
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chessmaster1989 said: Really curious about whether or not Anna actually shot the guy. Only possible alternatives 1.) Anna shot the bad guy 2.) The bad guy shot then immediately succumbed to his earlier wound 3.) Batman (Tenma or Johan) showed up and saved the day 4.) The bad guy forgot to take the safety off or reload the magazine 5.) Earthquake/Act of God 6.) Ricochet from an earlier shot was bouncing around and eventually hit the bad guy 7.) One of those containers that was hit earlier exploded 8.) Anna shot the bad guy Either way I feel the worst about Muller. His life is a mess constructed by Johan. Nothing is real to him, much like The Truman Show. Whether his wife's feelings are real or not does not matter at this point. |
MangaTurtle said: First half: I hate you muller i hope you die! Last Hallf:Nooooo Muller Don't die~~ ikr, the creator of this is really good at making the biggest dicks have a human side, just when you want them to die more than anything else it all of a sudden flips on you and you start pitying the mofo. |
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| About Episode: That Michael guy seems really loving parent and that woman so beautiful again. Fritz seems interesting boy. I kind of creeped out when they were talking abou that twenty years ago happened case. Maybe Johan is watching them. That was quite good investigation from that detective to know this much and so much about Tenma, Nina. Oh so Muller didn't know that Messler was out of the game. Also investigator knew about that fire and The Baby, organization man he was good speculating things. Oh those imaginations that Muller saw where scary as hell. So Muller was responsible for those foster couple case I see. Woah so Anna was spying on Muller to get revenge for his family. Man that Roberto sounds bad guy and there was 2 of him what O_O So Robeto kidnapped Anna and he was saved by Muller who know understand what he had done. Too bad he was injured during that fight. Great episode 5/5 |
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| Damn, I really feel sorry for Nina this episode. She holds the gun on that cliff but hesitates to pull the trigger. |
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| I enjoyed this ep, but still I'm waiting for Anna to kill somebody. Cause she's always with the gun, but everybody saves her everytime and she never did it herself.... But Muller was killed ..that's sad. |
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| Muller did what he had to do, to bad he won't be coming back to his family. Anyway, great episode. |
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Zell182 said: Can't say I fell sorry for Muller - he deserved everything he got. His gold digger wife will move on with her bratty son so meh. sad but probably true, welp |
| very suspenseful episode :D i knew we would see Muller after Mesner's episode. Mesner's dead, kinda predicted seeing he is high on drugs. and wow it seems he was living a good life thanks to Johan, definitely scary when you being hunted by your victims. even though i feel sorry a little bit for Muller, it's still his fault for killing Nina's parents. it seems Johan is capable of controlling people through fear :P and wow those people were really trying to kill Nina O___O i thought she was gonna get raped T___T Mamiko Noto acting tough in this episode is ace! glad Muller was there to save her!! though i thought it's gonna be Tenma!! and i think Nina shot the guy that's why she was kinda mentally disturbed while driving(could be Muller's being shot though) and i think the organization there is the same motive as Baby from the a few episodes back. they just want to make Johan are part of their organization or something. still i can't believe they know where Johan lives O___O he has been living in a happy life? what does that mean!!! we need more Johan episodes! glad Tenma is coming up along with Lunge!! also i noticed Muller could the coffee guy Russo was trying to kill on top of the roof. at first i thought it was Lunge since both of them looks very similar XD next episode is gonna be awesome!!! |
SenChen said: she did kill someone though, she killed that one gunman, why is that s for people to get, she pointed the gun at him, they both shot at the same time, nina killed the gunman and the gunmen killed mullerI enjoyed this ep, but still I'm waiting for Anna to kill somebody. Cause she's always with the gun, but everybody saves her everytime and she never did it herself.... But Muller was killed ..that's sad. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| FKK goddammit!!! I really like these little stories on the side. Ive been watching very casually and I have been kept interested since episode 1. =p |
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| Four bullets for 4 bad guys, perfect execution. |
| EL PSY KONGROO!!! |
| Muller deserved to die but I do feel sorry for his family. |
| Armageddon was yesterday, today we have a problem. |
| Nina was in a tough position, having to work with her parents' murderer. Also, you always have a choice. He made the choice to deal in drugs, and he made the choice to kill Nina's parents. His hypocrisy comes into full light when he thinks about his family as he's about to die at Nina's hands. I am glad that Nina didn't kill him. That the men turned on Nina wasn't so surprising; her will may be strong, but she still seems a bit naive. The surprising part was her apparent imminent death, as I wasn't expecting the series to go that route. I'm glad Muller came to save her. (Did he die or not? If they stopped the bleeding, he potentially could have lived.) Also, Nina killed someone for the first time. I'm glad it was justified (self-defense). I think her decision to not kill Muller combined with her killing of the gunman has made this a character defining episode for Nina. |
| So the killer of Anna's parents comes to rescue her. He dies in exchange. That was nice. |
| Why isn't this episode rated higher?! I thought this episode was awesome. That part where those guys were about to kill Nina was intense... I thought for sure Nina was going to get raped. I hope she manages to keep her pussy away from all those ugly fuckers in this anime. She's like a diamond in a pile of shit. Awesome episode. One of my favorite ones so far for sure. 9/10 |
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| Ok episode. Anna really cared about her parents. Felt a little bad for her. |
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| Surprising redemption for that cop dude. |
| Hmm even though Müller is an asshat for killing the Fortners, I really hope he survived. He kind of redeemed himself in the end. Also that comment about Anna's eyes. I thought they were gonna like gouge out her eyes or something, didn't think they were going to kill her. I mean if Johan hired those guys, doesn't he want her alive? I guess the monster inside managed to get the hit ordered on her. |
| Everyone's hating on Muller but I'll be really sorry if he dies. He may have killed Nina's parents but he wasn't a bad person at heart. Also he died saving Nina even if he could just stay at home and live happily with his family. Really nice episode! |
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| Muller did something good for a change but that doesn't change anything, I'm glad that he died, scum like him doesn't deserve to live. |
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| So predictable :( I enjoyed it nonetheless. |
| I think Nina did shoot that guy. It would also make for a good irony. Her first kill being in order to save the very person who killed her parents. At least Muller redeemed himself a bit by saving Nina, before dying a much deserved death. |
| God this is so boring and predictable i don't care about these fillers show us Johan already ffs This is just waaay too much build up bruh |
| I want to know what is the deal with this Roberto guy... Ah... the tension, the music, the sound of the slamming door of the car, and the gunshot. Perfect, I really enjoyed it. yakyuu-addict said: That is my main question. I want to know if that guy was her first kill...Anna looked like a mess but did she actually shoot the guy? chessmaster1989 said: +1Really curious about whether or not Anna actually shot the guy. |
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| So did he die dededed? The ending just reminds me why anime cliche exists It sucks :( |
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| this episode had much more action - liked it :) |
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