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Feb 18, 5:25 AM
#1
Ne Zha 2 is breaking box office records and just became the highest grossing animated movie of all time! Made more money than your average Japanese Anime film. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_animated_films https://x.com/shanghaidaily/status/1891815182189449599 Donghua is on the rise! Other records this Donghua (Chinese animation) has broken
On the 11th day of its release, Ne Zha 2 became the highest grossing film in a single box office territory, surpassing the $936 million grossed by Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015) in North America, which itself had taken 165 days to reach that mark. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ne_Zha_2 https://collider.com/ne-zha-2-global-box-office-2-billion/ |
Old_School_AkiraMar 2, 7:20 AM
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Feb 18, 5:40 AM
#2
What percentage of the gross is from domestic audience? Nevermind, found the data, ~97.5% of the gross is domestic, so only ~2.5% outside of China. |
ZarutakuFeb 18, 5:52 AM
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Feb 18, 5:55 AM
#3
Donghua will eventually surpass anime in popularity. People started watching anime because of its Japanese appeal. Sadly, anime companies let Americans into production committees, which westernized anime, and now the industry is collapsing because of it. I hope donghua companies don't make the same mistakes that anime companies did. |
Feb 18, 5:57 AM
#4
Reply to ForgotEyeWasHere
Donghua will eventually surpass anime in popularity. People started watching anime because of its Japanese appeal. Sadly, anime companies let Americans into production committees, which westernized anime, and now the industry is collapsing because of it. I hope donghua companies don't make the same mistakes that anime companies did.
@ForgotEyeWasHere some Donghua has some great use of CGI as well. |
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Feb 18, 6:25 AM
#5
Reply to Zarutaku
What percentage of the gross is from domestic audience?
Nevermind, found the data, ~97.5% of the gross is domestic, so only ~2.5% outside of China.
Nevermind, found the data, ~97.5% of the gross is domestic, so only ~2.5% outside of China.
Zarutaku said: What percentage of the gross is from domestic audience? Nevermind, found the data, ~97.5% of the gross is domestic, so only ~2.5% outside of China. I was about to say I never even heard of this film before. A film that is supposedly #1 with no Producers, Licensors, or even Studio. lol World wide international success is a stretch for this film since this film wasn't even featured in any theaters where I live nor in any theaters in Japan either. lol |
Feb 18, 6:30 AM
#6
Reply to ColourWheel
Zarutaku said:
What percentage of the gross is from domestic audience?
Nevermind, found the data, ~97.5% of the gross is domestic, so only ~2.5% outside of China.
What percentage of the gross is from domestic audience?
Nevermind, found the data, ~97.5% of the gross is domestic, so only ~2.5% outside of China.
I was about to say I never even heard of this film before. A film that is supposedly #1 with no Producers, Licensors, or even Studio. lol
World wide international success is a stretch for this film since this film wasn't even featured in any theaters where I live nor in any theaters in Japan either. lol
ColourWheel said: World wide international success is a stretch for this film since this film wasn't even featured in any theaters where I live nor in any theaters in Japan either. lol If you live in the USA, Canada or Australia you can watch the movie in theatres now. It will be releasing other countries soon |
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Feb 18, 6:36 AM
#7
Feb 18, 6:36 AM
#8
Reply to Old_School_Akira
ColourWheel said:
World wide international success is a stretch for this film since this film wasn't even featured in any theaters where I live nor in any theaters in Japan either. lol
World wide international success is a stretch for this film since this film wasn't even featured in any theaters where I live nor in any theaters in Japan either. lol
If you live in the USA, Canada or Australia you can watch the movie in theatres now.
It will be releasing other countries soon
Old_School_Akira said: If you live in the USA, Canada or Australia you can watch the movie in theatres now. It will be releasing other countries soon This film I doubt is even dubbed in English. If it's in Mandarin, it's going to flop hard where I live or any other place in North America. People barely will go see Japanese Anime films in the theaters in Nihongo with subtitles. When a Japanese Anime is dubbed in English the theaters are always packed. I doubt anyone is going to throw their money on some animated Chinese film no one has ever heard of completely in Mandarin. |
Feb 18, 6:50 AM
#9
Reply to ColourWheel
Old_School_Akira said:
If you live in the USA, Canada or Australia you can watch the movie in theatres now.
It will be releasing other countries soon
If you live in the USA, Canada or Australia you can watch the movie in theatres now.
It will be releasing other countries soon
This film I doubt is even dubbed in English. If it's in Mandarin, it's going to flop hard where I live or any other place in North America. People barely will go see Japanese Anime films in the theaters in Nihongo with subtitles. When a Japanese Anime is dubbed in English the theaters are always packed. I doubt anyone is going to throw their money on some animated Chinese film no one has ever heard of completely in Mandarin.
@ColourWheel well it could get an English dub later. The 1st film has an English dub. There are Chinese Americans, Canadians and Australians watching the movie. |
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Feb 18, 6:50 AM
#10
Never even watched the rest of the franchise but good for it I guess. |
Feb 18, 7:14 AM
#11
Not watching it (when it gets released on video) since even the donghua fans can't figure out to which of all the previous Ne Zha movies is this a sequel. Also its fans are kind of dicks. I asked on Reddit "Why should I watch this? Give me a reason! Praise it to me for what it is aside of making a lot of money!" and I got a bunch of downvotes and no actual explanations. |
alshuFeb 18, 8:53 AM
Feb 18, 7:40 AM
#12
Reply to alshu
Not watching it (when it gets released on video) since even the donghua fans can't figure out to which of all the previous Ne Zha movies is this a sequel.
Also its fans are kind of dicks. I asked on Reddit "Why should I watch this? Give me a reason! Praise it to me for what it is aside of making a lot of money!" and I got a bunch of downvotes and no actual explanations.
Also its fans are kind of dicks. I asked on Reddit "Why should I watch this? Give me a reason! Praise it to me for what it is aside of making a lot of money!" and I got a bunch of downvotes and no actual explanations.
alshu said: Not watching it (when it gets released on video) since even the donghua can't figure out to which of all the previous Ne Zha movies is this a sequel. Well that’s sad. The 1st Ne Zha movie is free on You tube (with ads) if you want to watch. It even has the English dub if you change it in the settings. |
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Feb 18, 7:45 AM
#13
Reply to alshu
Not watching it (when it gets released on video) since even the donghua fans can't figure out to which of all the previous Ne Zha movies is this a sequel.
Also its fans are kind of dicks. I asked on Reddit "Why should I watch this? Give me a reason! Praise it to me for what it is aside of making a lot of money!" and I got a bunch of downvotes and no actual explanations.
Also its fans are kind of dicks. I asked on Reddit "Why should I watch this? Give me a reason! Praise it to me for what it is aside of making a lot of money!" and I got a bunch of downvotes and no actual explanations.
@alshu You totally asked for it for doing that elitist attitude in Reddit, and it makes me smile a bit honestly. |
Feb 18, 7:49 AM
#14
Reply to Old_School_Akira
@ColourWheel well it could get an English dub later. The 1st film has an English dub.
There are Chinese Americans, Canadians and Australians watching the movie.
There are Chinese Americans, Canadians and Australians watching the movie.
Old_School_Akira said: There are Chinese Americans, Canadians and Australians watching the movie. lol That's even assuming Chinese Americans, Canadians, and Australians are even into donghua in the 1st place. That would be like saying a bunch of Americans, Canadians, and Australians living in China would go to the theater to see some silly Western cartoon simply because it's a Western cartoon. lol |
Feb 18, 7:56 AM
#15
Huge congrats to the film; this is certainly several milestones at once. Hopefully this can revitalize the donghua industry. |
Feb 18, 7:57 AM
#16
Sounds interesting even if it's somewhat strange how successful it is Sadly it probably won't be available for me to see |
Feb 18, 8:08 AM
#17
I like how you take it face value from a country known to skew statistics. |
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Feb 18, 8:25 AM
#18
Reply to Tropisch
I like how you take it face value from a country known to skew statistics.
@Tropisch you think the numbers are fake? The 1st ne zha movie was China’s most successful animated film of all time. Now the sequel is even more successful. The 2nd movie come out during Chinese new year and has been breaking records ever since it’s release. |
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Feb 18, 8:34 AM
#19
Reply to Old_School_Akira
ColourWheel said:
World wide international success is a stretch for this film since this film wasn't even featured in any theaters where I live nor in any theaters in Japan either. lol
World wide international success is a stretch for this film since this film wasn't even featured in any theaters where I live nor in any theaters in Japan either. lol
If you live in the USA, Canada or Australia you can watch the movie in theatres now.
It will be releasing other countries soon
@Old_School_Akira Great, I can't wait to hear about all the records this movie breaks in USA, Canada, and Australia. |
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Feb 18, 8:49 AM
#20
Hmmm interesting. Do you know its ranking if you account for inflation? Not to diminish the merits of the movie, but such numbers are always skewed by inflation (a dollar of 1995 and 2025 does not have the same value) and the price of theatre tickets. Instead, what's its number of sold theater tickets ? |
Feb 18, 8:52 AM
#21
Old_School_Akira said: The 1st Ne Zha movie Naaah, nobody knows for sure. Like seriously nobody knows. JoeChip said: ou totally asked for it for doing that elitist attitude in Reddit, Elitist doesn't mean anyone who you simply dislike. JoeChip said: it makes me smile a bit honestly You being honest? Now that's funny! |
Feb 18, 9:01 AM
#22
StarThrone said: Hmmm interesting. Do you know its ranking if you account for inflation? Not to diminish the merits of the movie, but such numbers are always skewed by inflation (a dollar of 1995 and 2025 does not have the same value) and the price of theatre tickets. Instead, what's its number of sold theater tickets ? The number of sold tickets does seem more suitable for such comparisons, but it would still require to account for various factors, such as population growth, global cinema infrastructure, and others. |
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Feb 18, 9:08 AM
#23
Reply to alshu
Not watching it (when it gets released on video) since even the donghua fans can't figure out to which of all the previous Ne Zha movies is this a sequel.
Also its fans are kind of dicks. I asked on Reddit "Why should I watch this? Give me a reason! Praise it to me for what it is aside of making a lot of money!" and I got a bunch of downvotes and no actual explanations.
Also its fans are kind of dicks. I asked on Reddit "Why should I watch this? Give me a reason! Praise it to me for what it is aside of making a lot of money!" and I got a bunch of downvotes and no actual explanations.
Feb 18, 9:13 AM
#24
Yeah I guess China has so many people they didn't even bother making this film competitive for the international market because I haven't even heard of it. |
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Feb 18, 9:20 AM
#25
Reply to alshu
Old_School_Akira said:
The 1st Ne Zha movie
The 1st Ne Zha movie
Naaah, nobody knows for sure. Like seriously nobody knows.
JoeChip said:
ou totally asked for it for doing that elitist attitude in Reddit,
ou totally asked for it for doing that elitist attitude in Reddit,
Elitist doesn't mean anyone who you simply dislike.
JoeChip said:
it makes me smile a bit honestly
it makes me smile a bit honestly
You being honest? Now that's funny!
alshu said: The dude is just trolling ignore him.You being honest? Now that's funny! @ForgotEyeWasHere Donghua will eventually surpass anime in popularity. People started watching anime because of its Japanese appeal. Sadly, anime companies let Americans into production committees, which westernized anime, and now the industry is collapsing because of it. I hope donghua companies don't make the same mistakes that anime companies did. Yeah the evil West with its censorship of anime tiddy, China is way better.... lol Pick a narrative. You would be way better off with the evil West, and the increasingly profitable anime industry. |
BilboBaggins365Feb 18, 9:23 AM
Feb 18, 9:26 AM
#26
Reply to StarThrone
Hmmm interesting. Do you know its ranking if you account for inflation?
Not to diminish the merits of the movie, but such numbers are always skewed by inflation (a dollar of 1995 and 2025 does not have the same value) and the price of theatre tickets.
Instead, what's its number of sold theater tickets ?
Not to diminish the merits of the movie, but such numbers are always skewed by inflation (a dollar of 1995 and 2025 does not have the same value) and the price of theatre tickets.
Instead, what's its number of sold theater tickets ?
@StarThrone I got back an estimate of 248.2 million tickets average ticket price form here: https://www.cartoonbrew.com/box-office-report/chinese-sensation-ne-zha-2-overtakes-inside-out-2-as-highest-grossing-animated-feature-in-a-single-market-245494.html : "According to Chinese research firm Entgroup, the average ticket price for Ne Zha 2 is USD$6.85." 1.7B / 6.85 = 248.175.182,4817518248 I also found a quote of it selling over 200 million here, though you can determine if credible: 'As of Thursday, Ne Zha 2 has also become the first film in Chinese cinema history to have over 200 million viewers, according to CCTV.' ( https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202502/1328382.shtml ) |
watsymFeb 18, 9:29 AM
Feb 18, 9:30 AM
#27
First one was Solid. Didn't even know there was a sequel though. But...I question that number one spot. You telling me a movie made in a country with shit tons of people who likely feel obligated to support things from their own country is #1? |
Feb 18, 9:33 AM
#28
Reply to Zarutaku
StarThrone said:
Hmmm interesting. Do you know its ranking if you account for inflation?
Not to diminish the merits of the movie, but such numbers are always skewed by inflation (a dollar of 1995 and 2025 does not have the same value) and the price of theatre tickets.
Instead, what's its number of sold theater tickets ?
Hmmm interesting. Do you know its ranking if you account for inflation?
Not to diminish the merits of the movie, but such numbers are always skewed by inflation (a dollar of 1995 and 2025 does not have the same value) and the price of theatre tickets.
Instead, what's its number of sold theater tickets ?
The number of sold tickets does seem more suitable for such comparisons, but it would still require to account for various factors, such as population growth, global cinema infrastructure, and others.
@Zarutaku I kinda feel the sarcasm, and honestly, I laughed. Sorry, I did not mean to sound like "akshually" in my comment. But it is true, if we wanted to be reeeally accurate and impartial, we would need to indeed to account for population growth, cinema access, and whatever xD |
Feb 18, 9:34 AM
#29
Reply to BilboBaggins365
alshu said:
You being honest? Now that's funny!
The dude is just trolling ignore him.You being honest? Now that's funny!
@ForgotEyeWasHere
Donghua will eventually surpass anime in popularity. People started watching anime because of its Japanese appeal. Sadly, anime companies let Americans into production committees, which westernized anime, and now the industry is collapsing because of it. I hope donghua companies don't make the same mistakes that anime companies did.
Yeah the evil West with its censorship of anime tiddy, China is way better.... lol Pick a narrative. You would be way better off with the evil West, and the increasingly profitable anime industry.@BilboBaggins365 I believe that's the one reason that donghua hasn't caught up with anime yet, because they keep porn banned. All they have to do is loosen up those specific restrictions on donghua, and anime is finished. If donghua begins to westernize, then they will fall too. |
Feb 18, 9:43 AM
#30
Reply to watsym
@StarThrone I got back an estimate of 248.2 million tickets
average ticket price form here: https://www.cartoonbrew.com/box-office-report/chinese-sensation-ne-zha-2-overtakes-inside-out-2-as-highest-grossing-animated-feature-in-a-single-market-245494.html : "According to Chinese research firm Entgroup, the average ticket price for Ne Zha 2 is USD$6.85."
1.7B / 6.85 = 248.175.182,4817518248
I also found a quote of it selling over 200 million here, though you can determine if credible: 'As of Thursday, Ne Zha 2 has also become the first film in Chinese cinema history to have over 200 million viewers, according to CCTV.' ( https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202502/1328382.shtml )
average ticket price form here: https://www.cartoonbrew.com/box-office-report/chinese-sensation-ne-zha-2-overtakes-inside-out-2-as-highest-grossing-animated-feature-in-a-single-market-245494.html : "According to Chinese research firm Entgroup, the average ticket price for Ne Zha 2 is USD$6.85."
1.7B / 6.85 = 248.175.182,4817518248
I also found a quote of it selling over 200 million here, though you can determine if credible: 'As of Thursday, Ne Zha 2 has also become the first film in Chinese cinema history to have over 200 million viewers, according to CCTV.' ( https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202502/1328382.shtml )
@watsym wow that's impressive. I just looked up this list (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_by_box_office_admissions), and the movie is already in 34th place. Your estimations were on point, the list gives it 245 million tickets. On a side note, it's unsurprising the top movies (in the list) of all time are all chinese. What's surprising is that it's late 70s and 80s chinese movies. |
Feb 18, 9:59 AM
#31
Reply to ForgotEyeWasHere
@BilboBaggins365 I believe that's the one reason that donghua hasn't caught up with anime yet, because they keep porn banned. All they have to do is loosen up those specific restrictions on donghua, and anime is finished. If donghua begins to westernize, then they will fall too.
@ForgotEyeWasHere Well that ain't changing dude lol. The West is far more permissive than China will ever be. |
Feb 18, 11:15 AM
#32
watsym said: this is what I got back from a research: But people say 2 is actually a sequel to the 2019 one...also kind of in an alternative timeline. |
Feb 18, 1:32 PM
#33
Reply to ForgotEyeWasHere
@BilboBaggins365 I believe that's the one reason that donghua hasn't caught up with anime yet, because they keep porn banned. All they have to do is loosen up those specific restrictions on donghua, and anime is finished. If donghua begins to westernize, then they will fall too.
@ForgotEyeWasHere porn is what made anime popular? |
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Feb 18, 1:33 PM
#34
I must have never heard of this movie. |
Feb 18, 2:23 PM
#35
Reply to tchitchouan
I must have never heard of this movie.
@tchitchouan well the sequel and prequel both have MAL pages. https://myanimelist.net/anime/40111/Nezha_Zhi_Mo_Tong_Jiang_Shi https://myanimelist.net/anime/60544/Nezha_Zhi_Mo_Tong_Nao_Hai |
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Feb 18, 2:43 PM
#36
The success is somewhat meaningless, as long as it's almost entirely inside China. Basically no one outside the country has seen this film. Of the 1.68 billion USD gross, 0.007 billion of it came from US opening weekend (according to Wikipedia). I did notice this playing here in Canada, but only in this one theater that plays international movies. Maybe it's about to blow up over here, but I highly doubt it. Even if it succeeds here, I expect it would be mostly thanks to the significant Chinese community here. |
Feb 18, 2:45 PM
#37
Adaptation of well-liked Chinese legend done by Chinese authors does very well in China. Wow... not. Still, those numbers aren't anything to sneer about - in fact that says just how actually big the Chinese market really is. |
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Feb 18, 3:40 PM
#38
I learned that this movie is popular with fujos. They are probably the biggest audience. |
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Feb 18, 3:47 PM
#39
Feb 18, 4:49 PM
#40
I watched the original "Ne Zha" back in November and while it was a decent film I didn't think it was that spectacular. However if I have to give it credit for one thing "Ne Zha" along with the film "White Snake" (also a Chinese animated movie) both are very similar in both style, tone, design, and story to many Pixar films and media. Because the Pixar & Disney formulas have proven to be highly successful amongst audiences especially families, along with China's massive population, I can see why "Ne Zha 2" became such a hit. However I personally don't see a Chinese animated film such as this or others surpassing anime or American animation in the Western world anytime soon. |
Feb 18, 8:14 PM
#41
Reply to Old_School_Akira
I learned that this movie is popular with fujos. They are probably the biggest audience.
@Old_School_Akira You should add that to the OP and spare the rest of us from this movie we wouldn't like. |
LucifrostFeb 18, 8:18 PM
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Feb 18, 8:17 PM
#42
An animated movie that managed to appeal to the four-quadrants of the local Chinese market? Kudos to the makers of this movie. FZREMAKE said: I wish anime is also able to give the animated film market some competition. Agreed. Though with how 2D animation is perceived nowadays by average movie goers, we'll be lucky if we get a 2D animated movie that surpasses the original Lion King's box office worldwide gross of $970 million. |
Feb 18, 8:33 PM
#43
Reply to Lucifrost
@Old_School_Akira
You should add that to the OP and spare the rest of us from this movie we wouldn't like.
You should add that to the OP and spare the rest of us from this movie we wouldn't like.
@Lucifrost you might still like it if you give it a chance. |
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Feb 18, 8:53 PM
#44
I deadass forgot the Nezha movies were based on a donghua |
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Feb 18, 9:30 PM
#45
i only found out about the existence of this movie when i went to watch another one at the cinema last week, and the trailer looked pretty ass so i'm baffled by it being above all of those other titles. welp china population coming in clutch i guess. |
Feb 18, 9:34 PM
#46
This is actually a pretty positive news. Good job, China! |
Feb 18, 10:17 PM
#48
Never heard of this movie until I absent mindedly checked MAL and saw this thread. Watched the trailer. I am not keen on the typical Western animated beanface look. Feels like typical Dreamworks schlock? |
Feb 19, 12:37 AM
#49
Reply to Alpha-Nine
An animated movie that managed to appeal to the four-quadrants of the local Chinese market? Kudos to the makers of this movie.
Agreed. Though with how 2D animation is perceived nowadays by average movie goers, we'll be lucky if we get a 2D animated movie that surpasses the original Lion King's box office worldwide gross of $970 million.
FZREMAKE said:
I wish anime is also able to give the animated film market some competition.
I wish anime is also able to give the animated film market some competition.
Agreed. Though with how 2D animation is perceived nowadays by average movie goers, we'll be lucky if we get a 2D animated movie that surpasses the original Lion King's box office worldwide gross of $970 million.
@Alpha-Nine The highest grossing anime film has a gross of $507 million. It's hard to imagine anything getting close to a billion. Maybe one of the new Kny, CSM or Jjk films break the box office records, but again, 1 billion seems too hard to beat. |
Feb 19, 1:01 AM
#50
You'd have to be a fool to believe Chinese propaganda. Happened to the fools who invested in gsx, nio, iq, etc. stocks and lost a lot of money. Not to mention all those education scam stocks. They even lie about their demographics. So believing that a china only movie made more than movies available globally on 6 continents betrays peoples' lack of critical thinking. It's been 3 years since people got burned for believing their news and stats when trading their stocks and the masses already forgot about it? Sad. Also wikipedia is not a reliable source and the two linked articles are a joke, since one just parrots the other so there's just one source, a chinese one. It's becoming a very common tactic, reminds me of the guy writing about the black samurai book and editing the wikipedia articles about it for profits. |
robertino129Feb 19, 1:18 AM
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