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Sep 10, 1:01 AM
#1
I've been told recently that I'm not a anime fan.. But it's nothing new, I've been told that I'm not a true sports fan because I don't go to stadiums some 17,000 km away from my city to watch the games live .. My definition of an anime fan is someone who enjoys watching anime, discussing it, and engaging with the community. Whether they watch anime through legal means or pirate it, their passion and enthusiasm for the medium remains the same.. However, pirating anime does raise ethical and legal concerns. It can harm the industry by reducing revenue for creators, studios, and distributors, which in turn can affect the production of future content. But if piracy is eliminated altogether, Not all viewers who pirate anime would necessarily pay for Anime. Some might simply stop watching, which would reduce the overall audience and social media buzz... While piracy can harm the industry financially, it also has played a role in spreading anime’s popularity globally. Some fans discover anime through pirated content.. Even if some of them can afford to pay for legal content, there are regions where legal access is limited or restricted, so they got no choice.. The anime community thrives on discussions, ai_generated fan art, and other forms of engagement. If fewer people watch anime due to the elimination of piracy and Ai art, the anime community like Mal, Anilist, Animeplanet AniDb will suffer.. The art websites like the rule34, deviantart Pixiv, etc will suffer a loss in number of users potentially impacting the overall popularity of anime... Some Fans might prefer watching anime on pirate sites and participating in online communities, and might not collect merchandise. I think These are all valid expressions of fandom. anime have a global fanbase. I believe that Expecting fans from different parts of the world to attend events to meet the creators and Mangaka and directors in specific locations half way across the world is unrealistic. People have different personal circumstances that might prevent them from attending events, such as financial resources, health issues, work commitments, or family responsibilities. I think being a fan is about the passion and enjoyment you derive from the activity, not necessarily about how you engage with it. Everyone’s experience and expression of fandom are unique and valid. So What do you think makes someone a true fan? |
Sep 10, 1:02 AM
#2
It doesn't make you any less of an anime fan even if you pirate it. You still love to watch it, which is the main point of being a fan. It's as simple as that. |
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Sep 10, 1:22 AM
#3
I am a Anime Fan even though I'm not collecting Anime Figuress order I don't Costplay or going Expo, I don't have Crunchyroll Netfilix or Hidrive I am watching it on Muse Asia and Ani-One or torrent sites I am a fan because I enjoy watching the medium I don't care what everyoney says. |
Sep 10, 1:52 AM
#4
lol i was accuse of not being an anime fan because i pirate anime too and damn i say whatever at least i talk about anime and help promote it to potential paying customers |
Sep 10, 1:53 AM
#5
Culture shouldn't exist only for those who can afford it - Hakita |
Sep 10, 2:02 AM
#6
Okay so you guys agree with my theories more or less but I'm waiting to see post from users who pay for crunchyroll and Netflix, Amazon prime etc and lives in the hugely convenient areas like Tokyo, London, Hong Kong, Singapore New York and LA which host big anime events. |
Sep 10, 2:04 AM
#7
I behave like a "normal" human being without disturbing anyone else, therefor I do not give a ____ about the opinion from a random stranger. Nowadays there are so many pitiful human beings alive who can only get something out of THEIR Life by invading the personal space of others and trying to find anything to talk down to them... And from my perspective, if you like to watch Anime and you can enjoy yourself doing so, you are a fan of it. |
Sep 10, 2:08 AM
#8
I think we should support the industry only if we can allow it and want to. Passion and culture shouldn't be about money. |
Sep 10, 2:13 AM
#9
I think people who watch anime on Netflix or Crunchyroll aren't true anime fans. |
Sep 10, 2:28 AM
#10
I was a teen also, I didn't have a credit card, streaming sites were poor with content or region locked, physical copies didn't exist in my country (it's 21th century, btw.) I don't understand people who can afford anime streaming services, manga or merchandise, but they just don't want to, for I don't know what reason. Maybe you're called anime fan who supports anime/manga industry, if you're paying, but if you're not, I think it's passion for anime that counts the most. |
Sep 10, 2:45 AM
#11
"Can people who pirate anime be considered anime fans?" Then aren't that just saying the majority of the people aren't true anime fans? You are an anime fan, pirate or not |
Sep 10, 3:07 AM
#12
Pretty much what everyone said. If you like anime, then you're an anime fan. In my case, I still try to support the industry like buying merch and stuff but I would never pay for a streaming site like Crunchyroll or Netflix. |
Sep 10, 3:26 AM
#13
I do both. I have a crunchyroll sub and watch the stuff from each season as well as stuff I might find browsing. I sail the seven seas when I find an anime I want to watch and crunchyroll doesn't have it. |
Sep 10, 3:38 AM
#14
I am pretty sure people who say it have access to most anime they care about legally on their country Should have macross fans not watch the show because it's not available? Should people who don't have access to many shows not watch them? What about people without an official translation to their language? |
Sep 10, 3:44 AM
#15
Reply to Cielord
I think people who watch anime on Netflix or Crunchyroll aren't true anime fans.
@Cielord based and true, this is the true definition |
Sep 10, 3:47 AM
#16
You're not an anime fan, but you don't need to worry about it. Even MAL doesn't seriously think using piracy sites and torrents is wrong. |
Sep 10, 4:04 AM
#17
A "true fan" is something that doesn't really exist. We all just like to watch shows, have different opinions and talk about them. As you said, everyone's experience is completely unique and not being able to pay for a legal way to watch anime (or not wanting to) doesn't really negate your affinity to the industry or the medium. |
"Those words are meant for those that dare defy god's final warning... An epigraph of their stubbornness" - Maho Hiyajo (Steins;Gate 0) |
Sep 10, 9:23 AM
#18
Of course pirates can be anime fans, but they are often non-supportive fans. |
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Sep 10, 9:32 AM
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Sep 10, 9:55 AM
#20
Continuously watching anime makes a person a fan already. No need for fancy streaming sites when there other ways to do it. If I had a Blu-ray player, I'd might buy my favorite anime's on Blu-ray, if they'd lower the price. I'm already supporting many authors/artist by buying their manga/light novels. |
"You only realize the real value of something you discarded when you get the chance to pick it up again." - Rudeus Greyrat |
Sep 10, 1:19 PM
#21
Sure they can, as long as they're not actively sabotaging the industry by telling lies about companies, encouraging paying consumers to pirate, dissuading other pirates from paying, or insulting or spreading conspiracy theories about fans who pay for anime and disagree with the anti-industry narrative. To go with the sports metaphor, you don't have to pay massive amounts to attend a given team's games, but if you just watch them without caring whether they win or lose, you're just a viewer, not a fan. |
Sep 10, 1:22 PM
#22
Pirating doesn't hurt the industry particularly. In fact they only get a small percentage of the money that goes into licencing. Most of the money goes into middlemen such as Crunchyroll, Discotek and Sentai. @Cielord this |
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Sep 10, 1:27 PM
#23
RainyEvenings said: It can harm the industry by reducing revenue for creators, studios, and distributors, which in turn can affect the production of future content. If you want to talk about harming the industry, how about we start by talking about the tremendous amount of BS crunchyroll does.... |
Sep 10, 1:34 PM
#24
Reply to __Arkham__
Culture shouldn't exist only for those who can afford it - Hakita
@__Arkham__ I actually really really love this quote , thank you for making me learn this beautiful quote. |
Sep 10, 1:46 PM
#25
Yes. And it's dumb to say other wise. There's many reasons someone would pirate over purchasing. Lack of money or they rather spend money on things they deem more important. Shows they want to watch straight up not being available where they live for whatever reason. I would be completely broke if I were inclined to collect physical copies of every series I like and it would be completely impractical to spend money on something I haven't seen in the hopes I'll like it. It's not like games where I can just watch gameplay, and more or less decide based on that. I'm not buying an anime on some randos recommendation. Shit on streaming services all you want, but at least for the price you get a variety of things to try...Unless there's licensing or other bs keeping you from accessing shows. Which, yeah, VPNs are a thing, but why should anyone give extra money to another company when there are other ways of watching that don't require payment to begin with? |
Sep 10, 1:52 PM
#26
There is no such think as a true that and honestly the so called "true" fans are just a bunch or morons that should get curb stomped because how massive assholes they are. If people think im not a true fan for not paying fucking greedy ass shitty ass company as Crunchyroll and netflix any money so be it I rather be a non fan then waste my money on criminals and morons. I gladly pay money if my money went directly to the studio or to a decent company. Man I miss Manga video because I knew they where not a bunch of ass clowns. Honestly I would rather email the studio ask them how I can give them money directly and then pirate the show so I can still see it and Crunchy won´t get a single sent for the dvd sale. Honestly I wish each studio had their own website where I bought a digital company of a series to download. And for the last time even if it says Crunchy on producer they did jack shit. Producers are the guys throwing money at the project. I mean do you believe 5-8 companies sat and worked together to make one anime. No it was 5-8 companies who threw money on 1-2 studios to get it made Sure one could say if I don´t support Crunchy they won´t throw money on the project and honestly I rather not get an anime than supporting them. Also Im sick of all these companies any way you support their shit yet you get no season 2 or 3 because it´s not worth the money because the show is not top 10 Then why the flying fuck should spend money on you in the first place you fucking twats. |
Sep 10, 4:54 PM
#27
TheMechaManiac said: Sadly they are more than middleman now that they are also involved in the production process of anime...In fact they only get a small percentage of the money that goes into licencing. Most of the money goes into middlemen such as Crunchyroll, Discotek and Sentai. SwordBreaker36 said: They can't really do that since most studios don't even own the anime they make. Honestly I wish each studio had their own website where I bought a digital company of a series to download. SwordBreaker36 said: Isn't that what people wanted tho? For them to help make anime instead of using their subscriber's money to fund western cartoons? And for the last time even if it says Crunchy on producer they did jack shit. Producers are the guys throwing money at the project. I mean do you believe 5-8 companies sat and worked together to make one anime. No it was 5-8 companies who threw money on 1-2 studios to get it made Also producers do more than just throw money around, for instance they start the whole project to begin with. Usually it's not the studio who decides to adapt a particular manga or LN, it's the producers, and the producers also chose what staff will work on an anime. |
Sep 10, 5:03 PM
#28
I've never understood what "anime fan" was even supposed to mean. It's just a medium. If you watch whatever catches your interest, and don't have prejudice against it just for happening to be animated and from Japan, does that make you an anime fan? If something seems good to me, I'll try watching it. It doesn't matter if it's animated or live action. It doesn't matter if it's made in Japan or Brazil. |
Sep 10, 5:17 PM
#29
Considering that the fandom for Japanese anime here in the United States where I live literally wouldn't have popped up without piracy and fansubs in the 80s one can make the argument that someone who has at least pirated once is kind of reconnecting to the roots of the community in a way. |
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Sep 10, 6:05 PM
#30
pirates are the true anime fans. though not by choice. however: they have been here from the start. unlike official streaming sites they popularized anime. unlike official streaming sites, which wouldn't exist now without piracy. crunchyroll itself used to be a pirate streaming site. they kept recording anime to preserve, which streaming sites won't allow you to do. multiple streaming sites got destroyed over the years with their entire library purged. they watch anime uncensored, as intended, while official streaming sites buy the censored version. (this varies by site ofc.) they worked their asses off, fansubbing shows, doing stellar jobs, while paid translators on official streaming sites do way worse. they aren't biased by cost sunk fallacy when rating things. (when it comes to money) they have access to way more content than legit streaming sites combined. especially true when the streaming site won't allow you to watch 80% of their already limited library. they don't support the industry that destroys and chews up animators for jackshit money, neither the investors who are trying to steer japan towards western values. people just want to watch their anime of choice for free, the easiest way, uncensored. they aren't really anti industry, they are just making more careful choices when it comes to money. |
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Sep 10, 6:25 PM
#31
My only requirement to be a fan of anything is that you enjoy that thing. The rest is irrelevant. If I want to support an author/artist, I buy the source material from Japan. |
Censorship is vandalism. |
Sep 10, 8:54 PM
#32
I honestly kind of view people who exclusively watch anime legally to to putting unnecessary restrictions on themselves. If they ask for recommendations I'm limited to what anime are available to them. Piracy opens up a whole world of anime that you simply don't have access to if you refuse to pirate anime. |
Sep 11, 6:49 AM
#33
Some people are fans of the anime industry. They enjoy the commercialism, collecting figurines and contributing to sales numbers to pad the pockets of some exec. Then there are people who are fans of the anime media. Maybe you could argue that people who enjoy streaming anime online aren't fans like people who debate which voice actress has the best voice -- or vice versa. It goes both ways. Someone could just as easily argue that people who care about sales aren't real anime fans of the art. |
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Sep 11, 7:14 AM
#34
Yes, they can. They are fans of the medium just as much as those who pay. Passion for anime has nothing to do with how much money you spend, it's about your love and dedication to the medium. If someone has the luxury to buy Blu-rays or pay for streaming services, good for them. But to act like you're only a "real fan" if you pay? That's absolute bullshit. The majority of anime fans around the world don’t have that privilege, and that doesn’t make them any less of a fan than the next person. Love for anime (or anything else) goes beyond a price tag. People with that mentality are just trying to validate their actions, like paying for anime somehow makes them superior. Not only it's stupid, but honestly, sad as well. It's basically gatekeeping. A desperate effort to boost their ego, driven by hate and passive aggressiveness, by looking down on those who can't or choose not to spend money on anime. As if spending cash is the ultimate proof of being a fan... |
Sep 11, 8:27 AM
#35
Love for an art form is priceless but artists cannot live on air and love. Studios certainly don't produce anime just for fun, if they don't fit the costs they go bankrupt, if the animators and voice actors don't get paid they don't go to work. If everyone watched anime and read manga through piracy and bought fake merchandise, they wouldn't continue to do so for very long. My opinion is that people can enjoy and be fans of what they want, but the moment they can't or refuse to contribute they also lose the right to complain about the lack of quality or that things aren't done the way they want. I'm the first to admit that especially at the beginning I read most of the manga online without having many problems, also because otherwise I wouldn't have had the money to complete them. Today I realize what it means and I try to buy at least the lesser-known manga that I particularly want to see continue. |
Sep 11, 8:44 AM
#36
Please stop complaining. Piracy websites will always exist, they can't take down all of them and new piracy websites are born everyday. You just have to look for lesser popular piracy websites or ditch piracy websites that do streaming. |
Sep 11, 8:48 AM
#37
All Anime fans use pirate sites to watch Anime so no. @DarkFirefly72 Of course fake Anime fan exists, I won't callen even "fans" in the first place, they are called tourists and I even have more names for them. People who harass Anime fans, author and even studios due moral stances for anything fictional which includes threats, judgment or even insults are not Anime fans. People can't be fan of something if they do awful things to other people who watch it and people who made the Anime. Heck, they shouldn't be using Internet if they are going to do such things. |
NurguburuSep 11, 8:52 AM
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Sep 11, 9:20 AM
#38
I almost always pay for anime. But of course you can be a fan of something regardless of how exactly you consume the thing. Not sure if OP really had to frame the question like that and annoy some fans. But it's baffling how some people here are claiming that the paying customers are the ones that "aren't true fans." Making anime costs money. Whatever your personal feelings or beliefs are, it just does. And they want to make some money back. Are you saying that someone who contributes to that is "less" of a fan than someone who doesn't at all? |
Sep 11, 9:55 AM
#39
Reply to Nurguburu
All Anime fans use pirate sites to watch Anime so no.
@DarkFirefly72 Of course fake Anime fan exists, I won't callen even "fans" in the first place, they are called tourists and I even have more names for them. People who harass Anime fans, author and even studios due moral stances for anything fictional which includes threats, judgment or even insults are not Anime fans. People can't be fan of something if they do awful things to other people who watch it and people who made the Anime. Heck, they shouldn't be using Internet if they are going to do such things.
@DarkFirefly72 Of course fake Anime fan exists, I won't callen even "fans" in the first place, they are called tourists and I even have more names for them. People who harass Anime fans, author and even studios due moral stances for anything fictional which includes threats, judgment or even insults are not Anime fans. People can't be fan of something if they do awful things to other people who watch it and people who made the Anime. Heck, they shouldn't be using Internet if they are going to do such things.
@Nurguburu I do understand that, but I feel that this disagreement is kind of a semantics problem. First of all I never said anything about "fake anime fans", I said that "true anime fans" don't exist. With this I meant that watching a show more religiously, more legally or engaging with content related to it more than other people doesn't inherently put you on a higher space than other people that watch shows more casually. All those people that do awful things could perhaps not be considered "true anime fans" depending on your opinion on the topic, but I still consider them part of the anime community because in every fandom there exists people that hate or dislike things, even if sometimes this only creates negative interactions. |
"Those words are meant for those that dare defy god's final warning... An epigraph of their stubbornness" - Maho Hiyajo (Steins;Gate 0) |
Sep 11, 10:37 AM
#40
Reply to perseii
I almost always pay for anime. But of course you can be a fan of something regardless of how exactly you consume the thing. Not sure if OP really had to frame the question like that and annoy some fans.
But it's baffling how some people here are claiming that the paying customers are the ones that "aren't true fans."
Making anime costs money. Whatever your personal feelings or beliefs are, it just does. And they want to make some money back. Are you saying that someone who contributes to that is "less" of a fan than someone who doesn't at all?
But it's baffling how some people here are claiming that the paying customers are the ones that "aren't true fans."
Making anime costs money. Whatever your personal feelings or beliefs are, it just does. And they want to make some money back. Are you saying that someone who contributes to that is "less" of a fan than someone who doesn't at all?
perseii said: Not sure if OP really had to frame the question like that and annoy some fans. I think op refers to the people who think that paying for anime gives them some kind of privilage and see the rest of the fans who pirate as the plebs and while it sounds like a very extreme example its something I have heard irl as well. On topic:As long as you enjoy something, and you have passion for it, you are a fan. If someone thinks you are a true fan based on the amount of money you spend they just try to make temselves feel better and superior, they are not that different from the people who waste a ton of money on overprised things just to show off. As for piracy I think its makes total sense for someone to go for the least costy option with the most variety and piracy is the reason why anime became popular, some would say that tv did this, but I think that tv just made some anime titles popular not the whole medium and I am sure that the majority of westerners didn't know what anime was before they hear the word from somewhere else (most of the time the internet.). My point is that saying that people who pirate their anime are not ''true fans'' is like saying that the majority of anime fans from the last 20 or 30 years are not anime fans. Now when it comes to industry there are a lot of ways to give money and streaming services are not the only way if you ask me I prefer any form of physical media over streaming because I actually own what I paid for unlike a streaming service which can just remove my region from their service, also I think that piracy is the last problem any industry faces compared to overproduction and shitty work conditions. There is a reason why most of the seasonals for the last 5 years are throwaway slops, and I am sure piracy is not the issue here. |
Sep 11, 11:01 AM
#41
I'm not going to answer such a question on you because this is not the question that needs an answer. The real question is; since you pay for everything else you own - I assume (hope) you paid for your clothes, you paid for your shoes, you paid for your food, paid for your music, or anything else you have.... why, if you consider yourself a fan of anime, and if it's as big a hobby and as important to you as it clearly is would you deliberately refuse to support anime with your money and it's not even that much money. You can stream on most sites for around $8 USD a month. You can barely get 1 lunch for that much. It costs almost nothing, and it supports the industry. Why do you people insist on twisting yourselves into these arguments to insist that it's okay to steal just because it's easy, and want to justify it so badly? If you're conscious it's wrong (and clearly you are)- then just stop doing it. |
Sep 11, 7:00 PM
#42
Reply to SuperAdventure
I'm not going to answer such a question on you because this is not the question that needs an answer.
The real question is; since you pay for everything else you own - I assume (hope) you paid for your clothes, you paid for your shoes, you paid for your food, paid for your music, or anything else you have.... why, if you consider yourself a fan of anime, and if it's as big a hobby and as important to you as it clearly is
would you deliberately refuse to support anime with your money and it's not even that much money. You can stream on most sites for around $8 USD a month. You can barely get 1 lunch for that much. It costs almost nothing, and it supports the industry. Why do you people insist on twisting yourselves into these arguments to insist that it's okay to steal just because it's easy, and want to justify it so badly?
If you're conscious it's wrong (and clearly you are)- then just stop doing it.
The real question is; since you pay for everything else you own - I assume (hope) you paid for your clothes, you paid for your shoes, you paid for your food, paid for your music, or anything else you have.... why, if you consider yourself a fan of anime, and if it's as big a hobby and as important to you as it clearly is
would you deliberately refuse to support anime with your money and it's not even that much money. You can stream on most sites for around $8 USD a month. You can barely get 1 lunch for that much. It costs almost nothing, and it supports the industry. Why do you people insist on twisting yourselves into these arguments to insist that it's okay to steal just because it's easy, and want to justify it so badly?
If you're conscious it's wrong (and clearly you are)- then just stop doing it.
@SuperAdventure I make monthly donations to orphanage and the homeless people.. I rather give my money to the needy than billionaires and corporate companies like Netflix Sony who own crunchyroll .. Thats why I also go to the stores to buy groceries and stationaries to support the local shopping area rather than fund Jeff brezos.. 8 dollars? I rather give that to some homeless person... Also I don't buy Nike anymore, I rather buy Chinese fakes. These billionaires (1% of the total population) have milked 60% of the total wealth in the world.. The rest of the 99% population have to live with just 40%.. |
Sep 11, 7:12 PM
#43
I'm not an anime fan , now my life is ruined |
Sep 11, 7:30 PM
#44
Reply to SuperAdventure
I'm not going to answer such a question on you because this is not the question that needs an answer.
The real question is; since you pay for everything else you own - I assume (hope) you paid for your clothes, you paid for your shoes, you paid for your food, paid for your music, or anything else you have.... why, if you consider yourself a fan of anime, and if it's as big a hobby and as important to you as it clearly is
would you deliberately refuse to support anime with your money and it's not even that much money. You can stream on most sites for around $8 USD a month. You can barely get 1 lunch for that much. It costs almost nothing, and it supports the industry. Why do you people insist on twisting yourselves into these arguments to insist that it's okay to steal just because it's easy, and want to justify it so badly?
If you're conscious it's wrong (and clearly you are)- then just stop doing it.
The real question is; since you pay for everything else you own - I assume (hope) you paid for your clothes, you paid for your shoes, you paid for your food, paid for your music, or anything else you have.... why, if you consider yourself a fan of anime, and if it's as big a hobby and as important to you as it clearly is
would you deliberately refuse to support anime with your money and it's not even that much money. You can stream on most sites for around $8 USD a month. You can barely get 1 lunch for that much. It costs almost nothing, and it supports the industry. Why do you people insist on twisting yourselves into these arguments to insist that it's okay to steal just because it's easy, and want to justify it so badly?
If you're conscious it's wrong (and clearly you are)- then just stop doing it.
SuperAdventure said: The real question is; since you pay for everything else you own - I assume (hope) you paid for your clothes, you paid for your shoes, you paid for your food, paid for your music, or anything else you have.... why, if you consider yourself a fan of anime, and if it's as big a hobby and as important to you as it clearly is would you deliberately refuse to support anime with your money and it's not even that much money. You can stream on most sites for around $8 USD a month. You can barely get 1 lunch for that much. It costs almost nothing, and it supports the industry. Why do you people insist on twisting yourselves into these arguments to insist that it's okay to steal just because it's easy, and want to justify it so badly? @SuperAdventure "If you pay for things you own, why not pay to stream anime?" (emphasis mine) is a question that answers itself. Why do you people insist on twisting yourselves into these arguments to insist that it's okay to steal just because it's easy, and want to justify it so badly? Why would I jump through hoops to enrich bad people when pirates simply offer better service completely for free? And it's not stealing, please let this tired cope die already. If you're conscious it's wrong (and clearly you are)- then just stop doing it. It's not wrong, it's downright moral. |
Sep 11, 7:51 PM
#45
Yeah, obviously. Maybe people would be willing to buy some of their favorite anime on Blu-ray if a lot didn't have ridiculous prices. Some of the anime I liked have 2-episode volumes going for $40. Tell me when those go away and I might buy some of those blu-rays. |
"Well, she's flatter than a pancake" -Mimi Alpacas |
Sep 11, 7:59 PM
#46
Reply to SuperAdventure
I'm not going to answer such a question on you because this is not the question that needs an answer.
The real question is; since you pay for everything else you own - I assume (hope) you paid for your clothes, you paid for your shoes, you paid for your food, paid for your music, or anything else you have.... why, if you consider yourself a fan of anime, and if it's as big a hobby and as important to you as it clearly is
would you deliberately refuse to support anime with your money and it's not even that much money. You can stream on most sites for around $8 USD a month. You can barely get 1 lunch for that much. It costs almost nothing, and it supports the industry. Why do you people insist on twisting yourselves into these arguments to insist that it's okay to steal just because it's easy, and want to justify it so badly?
If you're conscious it's wrong (and clearly you are)- then just stop doing it.
The real question is; since you pay for everything else you own - I assume (hope) you paid for your clothes, you paid for your shoes, you paid for your food, paid for your music, or anything else you have.... why, if you consider yourself a fan of anime, and if it's as big a hobby and as important to you as it clearly is
would you deliberately refuse to support anime with your money and it's not even that much money. You can stream on most sites for around $8 USD a month. You can barely get 1 lunch for that much. It costs almost nothing, and it supports the industry. Why do you people insist on twisting yourselves into these arguments to insist that it's okay to steal just because it's easy, and want to justify it so badly?
If you're conscious it's wrong (and clearly you are)- then just stop doing it.
SuperAdventure said: LOL This is like saying if you're a big fan of cars, you have to pad the commissions of the car salesman.why, if you consider yourself a fan of anime, and if it's as big a hobby and as important to you as it clearly is would you deliberately refuse to support anime with your money and it's not even that much money. |
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Sep 11, 8:38 PM
#47
Can you be a "fan" without supporting someone financially? That's your answer. |
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Sep 12, 6:12 AM
#48
Reply to RainyEvenings
@SuperAdventure I make monthly donations to orphanage and the homeless people..
I rather give my money to the needy than billionaires and corporate companies like Netflix Sony who own crunchyroll ..
Thats why I also go to the stores to buy groceries and stationaries to support the local shopping area rather than fund Jeff brezos..
8 dollars? I rather give that to some homeless person...
Also I don't buy Nike anymore, I rather buy Chinese fakes. These billionaires (1% of the total population) have milked 60% of the total wealth in the world.. The rest of the 99% population have to live with just 40%..
I rather give my money to the needy than billionaires and corporate companies like Netflix Sony who own crunchyroll ..
Thats why I also go to the stores to buy groceries and stationaries to support the local shopping area rather than fund Jeff brezos..
8 dollars? I rather give that to some homeless person...
Also I don't buy Nike anymore, I rather buy Chinese fakes. These billionaires (1% of the total population) have milked 60% of the total wealth in the world.. The rest of the 99% population have to live with just 40%..
RainyEvenings said: I make monthly donations to orphanage and the homeless people.. I rather give my money to the needy than billionaires and corporate companies like Netflix Sony who own crunchyroll .. Thats why I also go to the stores to buy groceries and stationaries to support the local shopping area rather than fund Jeff brezos.. 8 dollars? I rather give that to some homeless person... Also I don't buy Nike anymore, I rather buy Chinese fakes. These billionaires (1% of the total population) have milked 60% of the total wealth in the world.. The rest of the 99% population have to live with just 40%.. You are not an anime fan. True anime fans don’t create threads like this. You don’t need to think about unnecessary characters, such as homeless people, rich people, or poor children. You only look down on anime, animators, and genuine anime fans. |
Sep 12, 6:26 AM
#49
i have never spent even a single penny on anime and i already know from a cursory glance alone that i am the biggest anime fan in this thread. nobody is impressed that you can waste your money |
Sep 12, 6:55 AM
#50
LoL piracy harms no one. Only the rich, elites are pissed off when you pirate. Why pay for anime when most of the revenues are pocketed by the rich, elites at the top? The people and studios (that produce the shows) get hardly any money from the sales of anime. Paying for anime just means you are giving your money to the rich, good-for-nothing elites. Not that I care because these elites are shitting their pants about Near Term Human Extinction (NTHE). They are just pretending it ain't going to happen. The rich elites are not "smart". They are just good at swindling and scamming people. Capitalism is a total, 100% scam. And the end result.... NTHE is guranateed to happen very soon hehehehehehehe |
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