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Jun 21, 2021 4:41 AM
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They are probably the most active studio in anime production in recent years. As much as they are, without a shadow of a doubt, to be appreciated for the quality of their works, anyone could easily understand that behind the processing of dozens of anime in such a short time there are people at the end of their rope.

You only have to search the internet to find some horrible stories. For example, the story of MUSHIYO, an animator who through several tweets vented his immense frustration. MUSHIYO removing any doubt as to who he said hadn't really quit answered another user, who explicitly asked him "so you're quitting MAPPA?", and the answer removed any doubt "Yes, I made a mistake".

Tweet: https://twitter.com/Mushiyo07/status/1393328625479413762

On his profile you will find all the tweets. The beginning is peremptory, in fact he asks: "I don't know why I worked so hard to get into this company". The main reason for his complaints is obviously poured on the immense amount of work, it seems that in fact they find themselves working every week (an expression he repeated six times) until dawn.

The animator compares the work at Mappa as a real factory job, in which rather than animating they are constantly redoing the same things in a mechanical way and many act only to redefine small details; he reports that he was reprimanded once because he "dared" to improve a drawing in his own way to say ugly.

He adds that his time at the studio could have been better if he had at least had the time to work on something original, but since they work on 4 projects at the same time there's obviously no time to focus on something different, just as there's no time to teach the craft to newcomers, another element he missed.

MAPPA is, in fact, not having any program to train younger animators, unlike studios such as Kyoto Animation and Toei, and this not only makes the job more stressful for everyone but also more difficult to find someone to replace him when he leaves the studio.

Finally, he concludes by asserting that he is aware that these are just his personal considerations, that he too may have made mistakes, and that it is not his intention to blame his former co-workers who stayed, but that about 80% of people feel the same way, including one of his superiors who at the time he quit explicitly told him that it would be better if he took care of himself, and now he acknowledges that he was absolutely right.

But you can find plenty of other similar stories. Anyone who cares about the health of workers and that they get their fair share of pay must stop looking at the anime produced by this study from today and try to make something change in working conditions. I will, won't you?
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Jun 21, 2021 4:56 AM
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well, that sucks, I hope that guy finds some work at another studio. I won't stop watching mappa anime, they might even kill an animator and I would still watch their anime.
Jun 21, 2021 5:04 AM
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Good thing I'm pirating their anime 😈


Now I only need to stop buying food items from certain companies. Ah and I might have to wear different clothes in the future.

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Jun 21, 2021 5:11 AM
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Same energy as "Stop eating at x fast food chain, save the cows!". Their burgers are banging from time to time you know.
Jun 21, 2021 5:13 AM
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Okay, random dude who just made your account three days ago.


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Jun 21, 2021 5:15 AM
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okay, but i'm still going to watch chainsaw man though
Jun 21, 2021 5:16 AM
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Well I'm convinced as soon as I run out of mappa shows I want to watch ill stop watching mappa shows until they put out another I want to watch.
Jun 21, 2021 5:16 AM
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they are animating chainsaw man, so i will keep watching. the politics or behavior of a company don't interest me. people still buying nike shoes ya know?
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Jun 21, 2021 5:16 AM
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Okay, you don't have to worry. I'll stop watching anime this instant and move to porn industry.
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Jun 21, 2021 5:17 AM

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i got you fam
*Adds Chainsaw man to PTW*
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Jun 21, 2021 5:20 AM
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eulamain said:
okay, but i'm still going to watch chainsaw man though
no, it's actually not that great.....
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Jun 21, 2021 5:25 AM

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I refuse, they made one of the best anime originals, “punchline”, so I will never stop watching them
Jun 21, 2021 5:26 AM

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I'll stop, I promise you...

Buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut if they make a hot Power, I'll watch again.

Please MAPPA, show us your true colours and give us the hottest anime girl ever.
If you're a fanboy, please don't waste my time.

Watch more movies, please.

Perhaps, this is hell.
Jun 21, 2021 5:31 AM

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Mention said:
Okay, random dude who just made your account three days ago.


Dang I wouldn't have realized that if you didn't say.
Jun 21, 2021 5:31 AM

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nah I'll still watch their anime, especially since they're animating chainsaw man lol



I hope the animators will get a break or sumn tho


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Jun 21, 2021 5:31 AM

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The entirety of mal could not watch MAPPA and i still don't think they would care. The problem lies in Japans work culture, and even if MAPPA stops other studios are doing the exact same thing (J.C Staff, old Madhouse etc.)

Jun 21, 2021 5:32 AM

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What difference does it make, even if most of us pirate their anime in the first place?

We all know that animators in Japan are overworked, but not watching their products because of how hard they worked making it is a bit disrespectful and demeaning.
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Jun 21, 2021 5:34 AM
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Isn't only aot animator are complaining?
Correct me if i wrong(sorry for bad English)
Jun 21, 2021 5:37 AM

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Ok OP I'm gonna sail the high seas now.
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Jun 21, 2021 5:44 AM

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The conclusion is: Everyone will still watching anime made by MAPPA.
Jun 21, 2021 5:50 AM

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LOL, if overworking animators is a serious concern for you when deciding to watch an anime, do yourself a favour and stop watching anime forever. Or just stick to Kyoto Animation and ufotable, since they're the only ones who seem to properly take care of their employees.

MAPPA is far from the only one to overwork their animators. I have a feeling there a probably a million other people like this MUSHIYO that worked for other studios and left under similar conditions but you'll never hear their stories because of Japan's culture.

Jun 21, 2021 5:54 AM

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Don't mind me I'll just keep pirating them then.

On a serious note if this kind of idea could change anything then the world itself will need to stop consuming japanese product since it's a societal problem there not something limited to a singular animation studio.
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Hate to break it to you, but no one thinks of the kid that stitches their clothes together for cents in a sweatshop with suicide nets around it. It's so prevalent in consumerism culture that you can't even avoid it.

I'm not saying to not discuss it, but I really don't know what a solution should be. But I certainly know your "don't support this/ consume x instead of this" mentality won't solve anything, because a lot of the animators across the industry are facing similar problems.

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Okay, random dude who just made your account three days ago.
Yeah this prick is telling us to do this and that, can't even use his real account/show what anime he has watched.
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Jun 21, 2021 5:59 AM

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You know nobody is gonna stop watching anime from them right?
Jun 21, 2021 6:06 AM

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Well I pirate shit left and right soooo

Also how does that solve anything again?
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Jun 21, 2021 6:11 AM
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Kheal3 said:
Isn't only aot animator are complaining?
Correct me if i wrong(sorry for bad English)

Yeah mushiyo is just freelancer from aot
Jun 21, 2021 6:14 AM

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Seems like an indirect way of saying you're an AOT fan these days
Well, why don't you talk about the Western fan base who has insulted and threatened MAAPA animators on Twitter.
Well, working conditions are bad in most of the big companies around the world, a lot of people are complaining about this
Just watch what happened in Rockstar after the release of Red Dead Redemption 2
This is just a very simple example of what is already happening in companies in most parts of the world
I know people who quit working in large companies because of bad working conditions. This is very common
I am not defending anyone
But I can only talk about something when I see what's happening with my own eyes, and not just because I'm upset about what happened with my favorite anime I've been waiting for so long.
and i am also not a fan of AOT
Jun 21, 2021 6:19 AM

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Mention said:
Okay, random dude who just made your account three days ago.

He's just an AOT fan who's complaining as usual
Jun 21, 2021 6:21 AM

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Sorry bro but i will not stop Watching anime made by Studio MAPPA.
Jun 21, 2021 6:28 AM
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Please hold on to your cancel culture shit and sit at home. You don't have to spread it here.
Jun 21, 2021 6:33 AM
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alrighty then
honestly idc about the studio that made the anime i am watching, people really should stop fanboying over studios that make their anime look "epik cool moment XDDDDDDDDDDDD"
however i do value the animators' very tiring and hard work regardless, but i don't go around saying "omg x studio sucks because they dfsbhuwufh809d this anime" or "x studio bad y studio good"
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Jun 21, 2021 6:35 AM
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Dude 90% of us pirate anime. Don't you as well?
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Jun 21, 2021 6:38 AM

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Even though they exploit their animators, their product is good, and after all animators work for it to be watched, right? Then why would I stop?
Jun 21, 2021 6:39 AM
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Tsuki098 said:
Kheal3 said:
Isn't only aot animator are complaining?
Correct me if i wrong(sorry for bad English)

Yeah mushiyo is just freelancer from aot
ahh it that so,thanks for information
Jun 21, 2021 6:40 AM

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Even though their word environment sucks it doesn't affect me when I pirate their Anime.Lmao.

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Jun 21, 2021 6:40 AM
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Otakughosh said:
Please hold on to your cancel culture shit and sit at home. You don't have to spread it here.


For how much I hate the whole mentality of "Either you are with us, or you are against us", in this case I must agree.

People believing that a business is somehow morally white or black are fucking pathetic. Any company has done bad practices, the exception is extremely rare. With animation studios this is even more true, as the whole system is utterly in favour of the production commitees. Not even the producers of the studio, but those above them.

Blame the capitalists overlords trying to make big bucks out of poor animators health, not the directors or the producers of the specific studio,who probably don't even make much more to begin with.
It must be awsome to believe that by blaming the middle manager you can hurt those above him, just like it must be awsome to believe in conspiracy theories and blame everything on the aliens controlling the UN. Being stupid is a blessing in a strange way.
Jun 21, 2021 6:53 AM
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Don't most studios have stories like this? I remember something like that about A-1 Pictures and Madhouse i think too? If we took such things in consideration, then we may as well only watch Kyoto Animation or whatever, so, no, sorry, but i won't stop watching anime made by MAPPA if they happen to interest me, just like any anime that happens to interest me from any other studio too.

Jun 21, 2021 6:58 AM

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Ok, and?

Animation studios don't give two fucks about foreign audience. What matters is the Japanese audience.

Only they can do something to prevent overwork. And this occurs not only in MAPPA, this has been a problem for long time.
Jun 21, 2021 6:59 AM
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I'm pirating anyways so it's all good. I heard about that story though, tough news.
Jun 21, 2021 7:06 AM
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I'm more annoyed by the fact that he thinks that we are just oblivious to what we consume.

I know the shirt I wear is most likely made by some overworked and underpaid poor workers. I can't change that but I need a shirt to wear and I don't want to look into every single thing I buy just so that I can feel better for myself.
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I think that the more people who legally watch MAPPA anime like Jujutsu Kaisen, the less likely this is to happen to other animators and workers since MAPPA will be able to afford to pay their employees more. This also happens with lots of other anime studios, they overwork their employees and pay them little, so I think the best route is to watch anime legally rather than just saying "stop watching *insert studio* anime!!"
Jun 21, 2021 7:11 AM
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So... Are you hyped for Chainsaw Man adaptation?
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Huh...? Are we pretending it was unknown up until this point that most if not all Japanese animation studios treat their animators similarly to what would be defined as slaves? Most of them barely get any money and work for way too long. Its not just a Mappa thing. JC staff does that aswell for years, Toei, Perriot and so many other famous studios do. Boycotting them would do absolutely nothing because they don't care about you. An actual change could happen only from the inside, or well... if enough Japanese people cared about this matter, but apparently they don't.
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mangadere said:
I think that the more people who legally watch MAPPA anime like Jujutsu Kaisen, the less likely this is to happen to other animators and workers since MAPPA will be able to afford to pay their employees more. This also happens with lots of other anime studios, they overwork their employees and pay them little, so I think the best route is to watch anime legally rather than just saying "stop watching *insert studio* anime!!"


No, it doesn't work that way, the boss and the companies that commissioned the work get most of the revenue and the animators still get the same poor amount of money.
In the last 5 years anime has doubled the amount of revenue, but the animators' situation is still the same as it was 10+ years ago. Where do you think that surplus/excess money went?
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What the fuck are some of these answers. The OP is not bringing a practical solution because nobody is going to stop watching the anime they like and most pirate it anyway, but of course it would work to not buy its products. Mappa must be one of the nastiest examples of corporate greediness in recent years. Many people have warned that its growth is unnatural (and brought by hype, I'd add), that it is badly organized and has to outsource a lot of stuff even if it allegedly has one of the largest workforces in a studio in the industry, that its work ethics are awful and there's already a number of cases denouncing abusive conditions.

Mappa is symptomatic of how bad things are in the industry, but as a symptom, it's one of the most severe cases we have recently, with the added issue that since it produces popular stuff its brand has transcended and has created a fanbase and a hatedom.
Jun 21, 2021 7:27 AM

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Tough life, I feel sad for him. JJK still lit tho. But this type of news makes me have second thoughts about my pursuit for career in animation. Still hoping MAPPA could do better because their animation is superb, might as well return the favor to their employees.
Jun 21, 2021 8:00 AM
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eulamain said:
okay, but i'm still going to watch chainsaw man though


True.... might even buy the DVD too.
Jun 21, 2021 8:11 AM
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You do you, I'm still going to watch chainsaw man and Aot s4 p2
Jun 21, 2021 8:13 AM

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This was about AoT production which I think most people know was shit. Other than AoT I think other animators are fine JJK had 2 years in production and as far as I know only Shaft, KyoAni and Ufotable do one project at a time. So yeah MAPPA is not to blame its the AoT production committee.

Also Chainsaw man is coming out. So imma definitely watch that.😎

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You sound like " The vegan teacher " but anime adoption also no , I'm going to watch Chainsaw man and attack on Titan season 4 part 2 and the Jujutsu Kaisen movie .

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