Don't Toy With Me, Miss Nagatoro
| It would be normal. It is more common/normal for guys to annoy the girls than vise-versa. Ever been to an elementary school? It's the boys throwing sand and kicking footballs towards the girls and rarely if ever the other way round. |
coolxal said: MangaZed said: It would be normal. It is more common/normal for guys to annoy the girls than vise-versa. Ever been to an elementary school? It's the boys throwing sand and kicking footballs towards the girls and rarely if ever the other way round. Well I guess that'd turn it into a shoujo. You are spot on, i had flashbacks of that stupid shoujo were the girl is boss around by that blonde prick, but for some people love it... is morr common than you think in shoujo, having that problematic / bad boy archeotype... he annoys her cuz he love her but he is so proud to accept it . Now i find this manga way better, cuz her teasing is only when they are alone, is a flirting bully thingy, she wants reactions from him but if you notice real closeshe never actually hummilite him or treat him like shit, like some shoujos, were the protagonist public display his status and tell the girl to stop bothing him, that she is pest.. that brings more emotional manipulation, cuz the same guy later treat her well and bring her back. I hope the anime portrays that YES SHE ANNOYS HIM, and semi bully him, but is sooo kindergarden like, the moment someone else get close to him she snaps, idk call me crazy but in my moral compass nagatoro is less toxic that uori from horimiya , so idk man |
joseph619 said: MangaZed said: It would be normal. It is more common/normal for guys to annoy the girls than vise-versa. Ever been to an elementary school? It's the boys throwing sand and kicking footballs towards the girls and rarely if ever the other way round. No its not, are you trolling? Where do you find anime with tsundere male MC who bullies girls? @OP: Feminists would cancel the show, but it would be idiotic to do so. Nagatoro is a slice of life romcom and any bullying disappears after first 5 chapters. Teasing != bullying. This is a Slice of Life RomCom show. Not drama, not political, not tragedy. There are a million anime to be outraged about. Akkun to Kanojo However that wasn't the point, I'm talking IRL not anime. |
| It will GENERATE a lot of HATE for sure. Female hit/tease male. OKay. Male hit/tease female. NOt OKay. That's just how the anime community work. >.> |
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xkazutox said: It will GENERATE a lot of HATE for sure. Female hit/tease male. OKay. Male hit/tease female. NOt OKay. That's just how the anime community work. >.> Not just the anime community. Think of basically any story where a female looks down on males and calls them "idiots", etc. Now imagine a male calling females "weak and pathetic" and always looking down on them. Another scenario is how barely anyone says shit about Garden Of Words, but now Mushoku Tensei is a major problem. Or imagine if in Clannad Sunohara is the one who continues to kick Tomoyo instead of the other way around lol. The same people who would have a major problem with this are the same ones who "support" gender equality. |
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Yugesai said: Double standards in western culture, what can I say more? A psycho man drowns his children, what a disgusting criminal freak! A woman drowns her children, poor victim with mental problems, we should help her. A criminal pedo man abuses child, 3 years in jail (anything less than 99 years is unforgivable). A criminal pedo WOMAN abuses child, cops and media and the kid's parents: "Nice!" Girl gets bullied, white knights, teachers, media and feminists go to literal war. Boy gets bullied, haha beta herbivore should 'man up" also realize your life is worthless. Western society is so nice right? So kind and just compared to evil North Korea and China that drown baby girls. pffft There is no justice in this world, everyone is horrible. The West are just hypocrites There was this anime that aired pretty recently called "Ikebukuro West Gate Park". Its an episodic anime. One of the stories had a women abusing her son. Obviously it was just treated like a "mental problem" |
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animelover177013 said: People would cancel it Nobody would cancel it, there's literally hentai that contains r*pe (without the r*pe tag) and no one has cancelled it. Also, if the roles were reversed, ppl would just simp for the guy. |
「死ぬために行くんじゃない。俺は本当に生きているかどうか確かめるために行くんだ。」  |
Top-kun said: This comment section reeks of sexism and misogyny- How is speaking of double standards which do exist "misogyny" or "sexism"? I don't see anyone complaining about Garden of words, but all you have to do is have eyes to see the amount of forums complaining about the pedophillia in Mushoku Tensei. Would you have no problem if you saw a male in anime shitting on females by saying "Females are weird" or "females are weak"? If you would then you should also have a problem with Black clover, and any other story that has females calling men "idiots". |
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AnimeLeviathan said: Top-kun said: This comment section reeks of sexism and misogyny- How is speaking of double standards which do exist "misogyny" or "sexism"? I don't see anyone complaining about Garden of words, but all you have to do is have eyes to see the amount of forums complaining about the pedophillia in Mushoku Tensei. Would you have no problem if you saw a male in anime shitting on females by saying "Females are weird" or "females are weak"? If you would then you should also have a problem with Black clover, and any other story that has females calling men "idiots". It's because Yugesai said some dumb stuff, yes double standards exist but they're going overboard. Also, sexism towards men isn't ok either. |
「死ぬために行くんじゃない。俺は本当に生きているかどうか確かめるために行くんだ。」 |
| More pog doujins? |
| and here we go again |
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| it would have been better |
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| it would of just been like a dozen of relationships in shoujo mangas but may come off slightly less fetishy like the early parts of the manga, I guarentee you whatever pointless controversy of the month both sides will exaggerate and focus way too much on this show will generate as is would of likely been far more visible than if the genders were reversed. In fact I'd argue it would cause almost no controversy, cause the people that are gonna be obnoxious on the defense angle to this show probably wouldn't of gone anywhere near this and if it goes anything like how the manga's reception went, those same people are gonna throw a hissy fit when the series transitions into a more wholesome story rather than their femdom kink. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Same thing with tsunderes. Imagine a girl walks into a boys room while he's changing and he punches her in the face. Imagine a guy gets jealous that a girl he likes is being hit on by someone else so he slaps her. Imagine that |
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| What if wings sprouts out of my butt? First thing I'd do is start flying upside down. |
| don't matter. The vocal minority is just loud and harmless to the actual industry/production. They moan about everything and people hop on like the cancer that it is |
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| I don't get it, entertainment is not where you're supposed to draw your morals from. The show is here to entertain and tell us a story, not confirm our world view. |
Nothing's new under the sun and that's OK. |
xkazutox said: It will GENERATE a lot of HATE for sure. Female hit/tease male. OKay. Male hit/tease female. NOt OKay. That's just how the anime community work. >.> It's true, unfortunately. Promoting all kinds of violence is bad, but if there is a show that doesn't really promote it, but include, then just don't watch it instead of being a loud hypocrite laughing at men from anime being beaten up and ranting about women from anime treated "disrespectful" because a guy stared at the woman for too long. |
| There is already shows like this, but usually the boy don't go as hard as Nagatoro goes |
| heh. |
coolxal said: MangaZed said: It would be normal. It is more common/normal for guys to annoy the girls than vise-versa. Ever been to an elementary school? It's the boys throwing sand and kicking footballs towards the girls and rarely if ever the other way round. Well I guess that'd turn it into a shoujo. There's also Diabolik Lovers, though it has been some time since it aired. I mean, there are plenty of mean men in anime. Then, of course, you also have constantly sexualized women and the harems for the overpowered men, never-ending seas of loli-ecchi type stuff, uh... and so forth. I've seen my fair share and I can't say you have a reason to complain in terms of sheer content that's available. That being said, in And, I mean... you have Redo of Healer, so... like... it's getting cancelled by those repulsed by it but to my understanding it's still ongoing. I mean, I didn't continue watching that revenge rape porn for more than five minutes, I prefer when the porn I watch is straight with me about what it is and isn't trying to normalize rape porn in conventional media. And I favor whatever porn that doesn't actually involve hurting people (emotionally, traumatizing etc.) in production, I've definitely seen other forms of porn as well but it's not like I'd be mad if that shit got banned on porn sites. All of this being said, I don't think neither Top-kun or Yugesai are helping the convesation by belittling each-other. I don't care who started. Feminism is about bringing women to the forefront since they are actively belittled by plenty of people in power, we wouldn't be as close to equal opportunity as we are today if not for those that literally risked their lives and careers to fight for a just cause. If you're for humanitarian support, all the respect to you. But any feminist that tries to convince you that men aren't worthy of self-respect or to be loved, or any such thing, is not a feminist. So you don't have to buy it when they say they are, find people who really are and simply stick to the definition. If people change the definition in the future, that's cool, but we still have a pretty big difference in power dynamics between men and women in the workforce. That shit hurts to change, you better believe it, because people have been taught differently, they project their sexual insecurities onto the whole other sex, and a whole bunch of other things to avoid engaging with better intentions (because who knows, maybe the one you're talking to isn't being honest, you might better hide who you are right now lest the whole world explodes when you utter a sentence). To say something sexist (goes both ways, obviously) is always wrong, but you can't act with the fear of doing that wrong as a baseline. But, you can accept that it's wrong and simply stick to doing better and offer a proper apology. That's pretty rough, but it's the only safe line you have to connect authentically with another person. |
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| Try to apply this question to every show and you'll get to weird places. harshtruth said: ... Imagine a girl walks into a boys room while he's changing and he punches her in the face ... Edt.: Recently I saw this question in anime https://youtu.be/OmPAuhU9now?t=136 Saw one where she came in bathroom and hit with ”what are you doing?”. Also neutral reaction: https://coub.com/view/2kuv30 |
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| It would be garbage the same way. |
| Who are you and why do you show your hostility towards a complete stranger whom you've not once spoken with before. Are you seriously asking to get blocked? Well, if that's what your intent is; to tempt me into throwing hands with someone as lowly and insignificant as you, then i may grant your wish provided you articulate yourself a bit better when trying to spite a person of my wavelength. |
It would be normal. It is more common/normal for guys to annoy the girls than vise-versa. Ever been to an elementary school? It's the boys throwing sand and kicking footballs towards the girls and rarely if ever the other way round. In anime, I have never or few times seen that seemingly normal situation. |
| Kinda pointless question, if we gender-swapped most current shows' characters they wouldn't even be successful (in the West or Japan). You're in for the good of gender bias, you're also in for the bad. |
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| I´m not sure if the world is ready for such sort of masterpiece. |
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| I’m almost 99% the OP made this thread out of just sheer curiosity and yet people still somehow turned it into an argument, well regarding your question I honestly would love to see a gender swap of this show because I think there’s more than enough girl teasing guy anime/manga and there needs to be more guy teasing girl; the only guy teasing girl manga I can think of right now is Soredemo Ayumu wa Yosetekuru and even then it’s only lighthearted teasing compared to Nagatoro |
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AnimeLeviathan said: The girl in Garden if Words doesn't go around groping kids in their sleepTop-kun said: This comment section reeks of sexism and misogyny- How is speaking of double standards which do exist "misogyny" or "sexism"? I don't see anyone complaining about Garden of words, but all you have to do is have eyes to see the amount of forums complaining about the pedophillia in Mushoku Tensei. Would you have no problem if you saw a male in anime shitting on females by saying "Females are weird" or "females are weak"? If you would then you should also have a problem with Black clover, and any other story that has females calling men "idiots". |
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69withRem said: AnimeLeviathan said: The girl in Garden if Words doesn't go around groping kids in their sleepHow is speaking of double standards which do exist "misogyny" or "sexism"? I don't see anyone complaining about Garden of words, but all you have to do is have eyes to see the amount of forums complaining about the pedophillia in Mushoku Tensei. Would you have no problem if you saw a male in anime shitting on females by saying "Females are weird" or "females are weak"? If you would then you should also have a problem with Black clover, and any other story that has females calling men "idiots". Pedophillia is pedophillia. What someone does being worse doesn't make what someone else does not bad. Its like saying x person isn't bad because all they do is watch child porn while y person is bad because they grope children. |
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