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| why the fuck does St Lucia have a prison lol and is that adult Hanyuu...? |
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lol Prison School all the way. damn Hanyuu. |
| Guys it’s not Hanyuu it’s Featherine Augustus. :) |
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NeonDZ said: Like I mentioned in the paragraph above the one which you quoted, I was comparing the first 3 arcs to Nekodamashi, didn't mention Satokowashi a single time.Like mentioned above, Satokowashi so far actually takes place before all other Gou arcs. We're seeing how Satoko became a looper in the first place, she isn't one yet. That's why current Rika doesn't remember the Damashi arcs. I think it's fairly obvious that the current arc happened before the ones we saw earlier thank you very much ._. random_weirdo said: Regardless of defining how bad an act murder actually is, does it count if the one you kill doesn't die or even remember dying? ._.Sure, I think Rika has some share of the blame in their estrangement, and I've been very vocal about my dissatisfaction with Rika's behaviour ever since episode 3, but in no way does that justify fucking murder. I know most people are aware of this, but I've seen a few people actually saying she got what she deserved and that really worries me. Toxic much? Lastly, I've seen many people complain about minor details (such as the ridiculous orange jumpsuit and the ridiculous rope that tightened with the snap of Satoko's fingers, which were silly but minor) There's nothing weird about the finger snapping tho, it's the GOU Telltale sign of a Looper. But yeah, wonder what kind of Reasoning Satoko will in the end get for her actions. |
         Intelligent gets through situations which wise avoids. |
Hulio said: There's nothing weird about the finger snapping tho, it's the GOU Telltale sign of a Looper. What is that? And Satoko wasnt even a looper yet. For Rika it was a stupid direction, for Satoko it means she suddenly has magic powers. Ofc this is the same show where a whole unit of spec ops were defeated by a child's traps but still some realism in the traps wouldnt hurt. We never saw her use finger snapping in Gou before(when she was even a looper) so couldnt they make it like she physically activated the trap like in episode 1 or like when Keichi activated them himself? Being able to set up that trap was pretty bad already but they should at least put some effort at it's activation. |
ssjokg said: I really don't know, don't ask me ._.Hulio said: There's nothing weird about the finger snapping tho, it's the GOU Telltale sign of a Looper. What is that? And Satoko wasnt even a looper yet. For Rika it was a stupid direction, for Satoko it means she suddenly has magic powers. Ofc this is the same show where a whole unit of spec ops were defeated by a child's traps but still some realism in the traps wouldnt hurt. We never saw her use finger snapping in Gou before(when she was even a looper) so couldnt they make it like she physically activated the trap like in episode 1 or like when Keichi activated them himself? Being able to set up that trap was pretty bad already but they should at least put some effort at it's activation. I was trying to be sarcastic :( |
Intelligent gets through situations which wise avoids. |
| Overall a good episode. The current and the last arc are both quite decent, I wonder if Gou would have been recieved more positively if they started straight with the sequel plot while leaving out the "remake" arcs. Since there doesn't seem to be much of a focus on actual question arc/answer arc synergy it would have propably been better to go straight for the part that's interesting for veterans instead of fooling around with newcomers for no reason. Featherine appearing was obviously expected but some people still doubted any connection to Umineko at all so it's still nice to see. I had hoped for Lamda instead because I like her far more but if they do Featherine right that's at least something to enjoy. Other than that I can only agree with the criticism about the actual prison in a school and Satoko's magic way to create and activate traps. What I really liked is to see Mion and the others again. Imo it would have been better if the game they played wasn't some weird repeat but something more original. At least it's reassuring that Mion, Rena and Keiichi are in the same university and that Rika and Satoko could possibly join them in the future. Also it felt to me like Rena and Keiichi look more and more like a couple. Even though Mion is still around and interested in Keiichi he always appears together with Rena and they seem closer than Mion and Keiichi. I mean it does make sense since they are propably in the same class and spend more time together. Though I don't think we will ever get a definite answer if Keiichi got together with either of them because that would upset some people and I don't think R07 is willing to risk that for unnecessary romance.  |
We'll be together for all eternity.  |
| those mad lads actually did it. they actually fully connected higurashi to umineko. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
Yeah that bump in the road brought back some Grisaia vibes. |
| The only consistent thing about this anime, is the score dropping each episode. Hope the trend stays that way. Interesting that Keichi in swimsuit and maid clothes got skipped. Too much emotions for the viewers, I guess. |
| Wtf they have a prison under the school? Also higurashi "quality" is back. I feel bad for Satoko, she only went there for Rika and Rika had no time for her. Though maybe thats the hinamizawa syndroms effect? Probably wont get revealed. Rika reminds me of what she was described in in higurashi Rei, a princess who wants her classmates to look up to her. Kinda dont see our Rika becoming like this though. Also judging by the comments Umineko is relevant for real now? Guess I have to read that manga soon, as I dont have the time for the insanely long VN. Anyway it certainly is interesting again, but I still think this is overall not a benefit for Higurashi as a story overall. @Mods PLEASE set this as a sequel already. Its not funny anymore. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| there is just one thing i don't understand and i don't see in the manga of umineko that is : "Lambda is satoko as witch from the future". The only hint of that that i may got is because satoko is a looper and in the future she will turn magically to lambda. Also i still don't know who is takano in umineko since she wished to lamda o become a witch. |
| Shiki is the best anime and unique with his style design, you can't change my mind from it |
UltimatMax said: there is just one thing i don't understand and i don't see in the manga of umineko that is : "Lambda is satoko as witch from the future". The only hint of that that i may got is because satoko is a looper and in the future she will turn magically to lambda. Also i still don't know who is takano in umineko since she wished to lamda o become a witch. Witches and time axis do not mix well. Also, we don't know if Lambdadelta ia Satoko or Takano. It could go either way or she could be a combination of both. |
UltimatMax said: there is just one thing i don't understand and i don't see in the manga of umineko that is : "Lambda is satoko as witch from the future". The only hint of that that i may got is because satoko is a looper and in the future she will turn magically to lambda. Also i still don't know who is takano in umineko since she wished to lamda o become a witch. lambda has a few quirks of Satoko's personality. Laugh etc... She also references the Hinamaizawa Syndrome. She also seems to use some traps here an there. Although the only thing I remember is ep 6. She also jokingly says that she has to go to school. Other than that there's not much pointing to her being Satoko. Definitely nothing concrete as Bern and Rika. The nature of the latter's connection is still partly confusing too. For Takano, we see Lambda giving her the certainty she needs to succeed in Higurashi. In Hotarubi she directly calls Takano her piece. Whatever connection Lambda has with Satoko her connection with Takano is well explained. Takano doesn't wish to become a witch. Are you confusing with her? She does however have a thing with Gods. Oyashirosama and Tamura being of note. |
ChargecoulombFeb 21, 2021 8:10 PM
| Karoshi on twitter posted some stuff R07 said in a stream. Not sure if I have to make to a new thread for this. https://twitter.com/KaroshiMyriad/status/1363821037863886857 Ryukishi07 states the person's name in Higurashi Gou isn't "Featherine" but didn't specify if they are the same person. He's also saying Umineko is independent from Gou. Yes and half of Umineko's characters arent x character as well....sure. He goes and explains more things like how Satoko vomiting was intentional, or her staring blankly as Rika advised Keiichi to give the doll to Mion was also intentional. Heh....But remember guys, R07 would never do that...Hey at least that scene was brilliant in how obviously faked it was. Too bad the rest are not that good. In regards to romantic relationships, Rena is closer in distance to Keiichi than Mion. But if their relationship progressed that far, they wouldn't have went to the same university as Mion. R07 teases that Keiichi may graduate from his obliviousness. I dont know who to feel sorry for here. Takano having a change of heart was teased. No shit. She kinda had doubts at point in the OG as well. So...water is wet I guess. Throughout the stream, he answers more questions such as the difference between Shion's class compared to Satoko/Rika's, Chie planned to develop the syndrome, etc. R07 ends it saying that their may be lies mixed in with the answers. Chie going L5 would be fun to watch.Wonder how many Ciel references that one could have. And you cant believe anything that isnt red anyway. EDIT: Other stuff I found in other accouts: Ooishi's outbreak was natural, not caused by an injection Rip Ooishi's character. Shion's class was the "Rich class" so studying wasnt that much of a worry. Rika and Satoko are in the "general class". |
ssjokgFeb 22, 2021 5:34 AM
| You missed that the VAs were surprised when they heard of the ending. It's not gonna be something we expect. Its would have been nice if some of these things were actually conveyed in the anime itself instead of an interview. It would have made the Anime better. Oh well, it's good that he clarified some stuff. 'Featherine's probably gonna call herself Oyashiro Sama anyway. Ryuukishi is gonna tease us with Featherine and not have herself or him confirm that it's actually Featherine. I'm happy that Gou isn't directly tied to Umineko. The references we have are enough. Although that's just my opinion. Ryuukishi had apparently wrote down a sort of book for Gou. I wonder how much Passione butchered it, things like these are just information normally conveyed through tips and such. |
ChargecoulombFeb 22, 2021 8:06 AM
This makes it look more like adult Hanyuu rather than Featherine. The face and the eyes in particular looks just like her. everything else is pointing to Featherine. Looks like it's still possible for evil Hanyuu to be responsible. Although nothing concrete to point in that direction yet. Still though. If it's not Featherine it's probably Hanyuu, and vice versa. Not much wiggle room. Ryuukishi could have been lying when he said that it wasnt Featherine. Iif it's neither I wonder if this is the manifestation of the human belief in Oyashirosama. Brutal legends and all. That is also something I could see happening. Specially since beings like Tamurahime exist in the world of Higurashi. This could resolve things like the cut horn in the statue, as it could be a part of legend because we know for a fact that it did not happen to the real Hanyuu. I wonder whether the normal Hanyuu we see is actually a god. All her abilities are abilities that her species has instead of being actual Kami abilities. Even her ability to become immaterial and material is stated to be a power that her species has, instead of her herself. |
ChargecoulombFeb 23, 2021 4:42 AM
| Yeah I expected the Featherine thing, but now I wonder how they'll resolve it in so few episodes without it feeling like a deus ex machina. Obviously it's her (I mean, the Hanyuu=Featherine thing was teased years ago in an Umineko guidebook), but she'll probably have her own story role in Higurashi. I expect this fanbase to forever debate if they are meant to be the same person, just like they do it with Bernkastel even when they straight up use Rika to show her past lol. It's really hard in general to trust R07 for me given how much he fucked lied about this. ssjokg said: Heh....But remember guys, R07 would never do that...Hey at least that scene was brilliant in how obviously faked it was. Too bad the rest are not that good. I was one of those people. To be honest, I will be hard to look back at Satoko's abuse when she'll later use her own abuse and fake it to plan a mass murder but whatever, Gou has done worse things at this point. |
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Chargecoulomb said: You missed that the VAs were surprised when they heard of the ending. It's not gonna be something we expect. Its would have been nice if some of these things were actually conveyed in the anime itself instead of an interview. It would have made the Anime better. Oh well, it's good that he clarified some stuff. Didnt include it because such info is meaningless, at last it ends up as empty promise or just usual staff hype. It actually delivers when the rest of series how delivered as well. I am not expecting Gou to get great at the very end Looks like Ciel isnt the only thing R07 liked from Kinoko Nasu's work. Gou is basically Fate/Extra: Last Encore now. chitchawa said: the ooishi thing was likely a troll https://twitter.com/0707tosho/status/1363843528602902530?s=20 Or any other of them, or even all of them. There was also the one about Satoko's breast size being decided since day 1. |
Chargecoulomb said: UltimatMax said: there is just one thing i don't understand and i don't see in the manga of umineko that is : "Lambda is satoko as witch from the future". The only hint of that that i may got is because satoko is a looper and in the future she will turn magically to lambda. Also i still don't know who is takano in umineko since she wished to lamda o become a witch. lambda has a few quirks of Satoko's personality. Laugh etc... She also references the Hinamaizawa Syndrome. She also seems to use some traps here an there. Although the only thing I remember is ep 6. She also jokingly says that she has to go to school. Other than that there's not much pointing to her being Satoko. Definitely nothing concrete as Bern and Rika. The nature of the latter's connection is still partly confusing too. For Takano, we see Lambda giving her the certainty she needs to succeed in Higurashi. In Hotarubi she directly calls Takano her piece. Whatever connection Lambda has with Satoko her connection with Takano is well explained. Takano doesn't wish to become a witch. Are you confusing with her? She does however have a thing with Gods. Oyashirosama and Tamura being of note. I i confused myself with that sorry. Also if you can see literally game, vn,anime, manga of both umineko and higurashi the hair and clothes are literally the same the only expetion is this adult hanyo "fake featherine said my the author". Everyone is saying that is featherine but didn't you take time to noticed the details of her appeareance and clothes? Her horns in the end are pink, the dress is a maiden shrine outfit with the color white and red instead of the featherine pink "peach format" color outfit and finnally in the the end her eyes makeup are red while featherine has no makeup. That's the details i tink that's not featherine and even makes sense if you watched her outfit in everywhere she is introduced |
| Shiki is the best anime and unique with his style design, you can't change my mind from it |
UltimatMax said: Chargecoulomb said: lambda has a few quirks of Satoko's personality. Laugh etc... She also references the Hinamaizawa Syndrome. She also seems to use some traps here an there. Although the only thing I remember is ep 6. She also jokingly says that she has to go to school. Other than that there's not much pointing to her being Satoko. Definitely nothing concrete as Bern and Rika. The nature of the latter's connection is still partly confusing too. For Takano, we see Lambda giving her the certainty she needs to succeed in Higurashi. In Hotarubi she directly calls Takano her piece. Whatever connection Lambda has with Satoko her connection with Takano is well explained. Takano doesn't wish to become a witch. Are you confusing with her? She does however have a thing with Gods. Oyashirosama and Tamura being of note. I i confused myself with that sorry. Also if you can see literally game, vn,anime, manga of both umineko and higurashi the hair and clothes are literally the same the only expetion is this adult hanyo "fake featherine said my the author". Everyone is saying that is featherine but didn't you take time to noticed the details of her appeareance and clothes? Hairs in end are pink, the dress is maiden shrine outfite white and red instead of the featherine yellow outfit and the the end her eyes makeup are red while featherine has no makeup. That's the details i tink that's not featherine and even makes sense if you watched her outfit in everywhere she is introduced Here is the thing... Put Keichi's designs from Deen and Passione next to each other as well as Featherine's and this woman's, without any info on where the characters are from. Chances are most people will identify the women as the same character. Keichi on the other hand looks nothing tye Deen version. She has the horns, the ribbon and the medal. She is either Featherine or just a piece version of her. If she has no connection then this is a very bad red herring. |
ssjokg said: i saw both DEEN and Passione Keichi's design and they are literally the same clothing there are the shoes that are different in other outfit outside the scholar uniform that are sneakers instead of the black shoes UltimatMax said: I i confused myself with that sorry. Also if you can see literally game, vn,anime, manga of both umineko and higurashi the hair and clothes are literally the same the only expetion is this adult hanyo "fake featherine said my the author". Everyone is saying that is featherine but didn't you take time to noticed the details of her appeareance and clothes? Hairs in end are pink, the dress is maiden shrine outfite white and red instead of the featherine yellow outfit and the the end her eyes makeup are red while featherine has no makeup. That's the details i tink that's not featherine and even makes sense if you watched her outfit in everywhere she is introduced Here is the thing... Put Keichi's designs from Deen and Passione next to each other as well as Featherine's and this woman's, without any info on where the characters are from. Chances are most people will identify the women as the same character. Keichi on the other hand looks nothing tye Deen version. She has the horns, the ribbon and the medal. She is either Featherine or just a piece version of her. If she has no connection then this is a very bad red herring.  From the OG Higurashi From Gou |
UltimatMaxFeb 22, 2021 3:04 PM
| Shiki is the best anime and unique with his style design, you can't change my mind from it |
UltimatMax said: ssjokg said: i saw both DEEN and Passione Keichi's design and they are literally the same clothing there are the shoes that are different in other outfit outside the scholar uniform that are sneakers instead of the black shoes Here is the thing... Put Keichi's designs from Deen and Passione next to each other as well as Featherine's and this woman's, without any info on where the characters are from. Chances are most people will identify the women as the same character. Keichi on the other hand looks nothing tye Deen version. She has the horns, the ribbon and the medal. She is either Featherine or just a piece version of her. If she has no connection then this is a very bad red herring. Let me make it more clear. Take Goku and Ultimate Gohan. On first look, they are the same but then you see that the haistyle is pretty different.You can tell them apart just from that. This Featherine even with make up, looks more like Featherine than Passione Keichi will with Deen Keichi. Unless she is some new person disguised as Featherine, which would be really cheap, there is no reason to treat her like someone else. |
| watched the scene where Satoko was put in prison, more than 5 times now. Always make me laugh when she says "aaaah!" - well deserved punishment. lol and she has a great voice actress. :) |
ssjokg said: UltimatMax said: i saw both DEEN and Passione Keichi's design and they are literally the same clothing there are the shoes that are different in other outfit outside the scholar uniform that are sneakers instead of the black shoes Let me make it more clear. Take Goku and Ultimate Gohan. On first look, they are the same but then you see that the haistyle is pretty different.You can tell them apart just from that. This Featherine even with make up, looks more like Featherine than Passione Keichi will with Deen Keichi. Unless she is some new person disguised as Featherine, which would be really cheap, there is no reason to treat her like someone else. Those are 2 different characters with just the body design being similar, character design hair and personalities you can't compare goku to gohan they are different. Edit: Yes but just watch every character in Gou and compare to OG anime, VN, manga and LN, it's literally the same character design, hair, body and clothes but this new "hanyo complete form" is totally different from Featherine, just watch every single VN,and manga totally they are different, Edit 2: Personaliti's are different because the anime style is more modern than the OG higurashi and also it's to deceive viewers thinking they are watching a happy Slice of Life. |
UltimatMaxFeb 22, 2021 3:18 PM
| Shiki is the best anime and unique with his style design, you can't change my mind from it |
UltimatMax said: ssjokg said: Let me make it more clear. Take Goku and Ultimate Gohan. On first look, they are the same but then you see that the haistyle is pretty different.You can tell them apart just from that. This Featherine even with make up, looks more like Featherine than Passione Keichi will with Deen Keichi. Unless she is some new person disguised as Featherine, which would be really cheap, there is no reason to treat her like someone else. Those are 2 different characters with just the body design being similar, character design hair and personalities you can't compare goku to gohan they are different. Edit: Yes but just watch every character in Gou and compare to OG anime, VN, anime it's literally the same hair character design, hair, body and clothes but this new "hanyo complete form" is totally different from Featherine just watch every single VN,and manga totally different, Edit 2: Personaliti's are different because the anime style is more modern than the OG higurashi and also it's to deceive viewers thinking they are watching a happy Slice of Life. I am talking about design only and a few small details in this Featherine's design aren't enough to prove that she isnt who we say she is. Are Older Beatrice and Chick Beatrice different? Yes but they are still Beatrice. |
ssjokg said: UltimatMax said: Those are 2 different characters with just the body design being similar, character design hair and personalities you can't compare goku to gohan they are different. Edit: Yes but just watch every character in Gou and compare to OG anime, VN, anime it's literally the same hair character design, hair, body and clothes but this new "hanyo complete form" is totally different from Featherine just watch every single VN,and manga totally different, Edit 2: Personaliti's are different because the anime style is more modern than the OG higurashi and also it's to deceive viewers thinking they are watching a happy Slice of Life. I am talking about design only and a few small details in this Featherine's design aren't enough to prove that she isnt who we say she is. Are Older Beatrice and Chick Beatrice different? Yes but they are still Beatrice. Ryukishi07 states the person's name in Higurashi Gou isn't "Featherine" but didn't specify if they are the same person. He's also saying Umineko is independent from Gou. |
| Shiki is the best anime and unique with his style design, you can't change my mind from it |
| In this Interview he doubled down that Umineko knowledge wasnt needed and they werent tied. Ryuukishi tends to re use character designs a lot. In Trianthology for example you have a certain someone who looks exactly exactly like Bern. If you look closely then there are several changes with the normal featherine design. The only big thing tying her to Featherine is that green thing she wears as part of her outift. If they somehow explain that away... The next episode will probably provide more concrete information if its actually her or not. In the interview. They also say that there are some lies sprinkled in. If Ryuukishi wasnt lying then it probably isnt Featherine. Lets be real here. Even if it was Featherine its more than likely that she would call herself Oyashiro sama or something else for the duration of gou. If its not featherine there is already other reasonable explanations like I posted above. It would have to be dependent on some good writing though. |
ChargecoulombFeb 22, 2021 4:25 PM
Chargecoulomb said: Like she just showed up not even a single word said and people started on the "featherine is here 10/10" come one it's a character and people were shitting on the GOU as a whole because of bad/lazy writing i am myself likening the anime but when people jump to the "tie the universe train" i had to watch umineko to see the ties and even the manga. In this Interview he doubled down that Umineko knowledge wasnt needed and they werent tied. Ryuukishi tends to re use character designs a lot. In Trianthology for example you have a certain someone who looks exactly exactly like Bern. If you look closely then there are several changes with the normal featherine design. The only big thing tying her to Featherine is that green thing she wears as part of her outift. If they somehow explain that away... The next episode will probably provide more concrete information if its actually her or not. In the interview. They also say that there are some lies sprinkled in. If Ryuukishi wasnt lying then it probably isnt Featherine. Lets be real here. Even if it was Featherine its more than likely that she would call herself Oyashiro sama or something else for the duration of gou. If its not featherine there is already other reasonable explanations like I posted above. It would have to be dependent on some good writing though. |
| Shiki is the best anime and unique with his style design, you can't change my mind from it |
UltimatMax said: Chargecoulomb said: Like she just showed up not even a single word said and people started on the "featherine is here 10/10" come one it's a character and people were shitting on the GOU as a whole because of bad/lazy writing i am myself likening the anime but when people jump to the "tie the universe train" i had to watch umineko to see the ties and even the manga. In this Interview he doubled down that Umineko knowledge wasnt needed and they werent tied. Ryuukishi tends to re use character designs a lot. In Trianthology for example you have a certain someone who looks exactly exactly like Bern. If you look closely then there are several changes with the normal featherine design. The only big thing tying her to Featherine is that green thing she wears as part of her outift. If they somehow explain that away... The next episode will probably provide more concrete information if its actually her or not. In the interview. They also say that there are some lies sprinkled in. If Ryuukishi wasnt lying then it probably isnt Featherine. Lets be real here. Even if it was Featherine its more than likely that she would call herself Oyashiro sama or something else for the duration of gou. If its not featherine there is already other reasonable explanations like I posted above. It would have to be dependent on some good writing though. "Child of Man" are 3 words that Featherine frequently uses. And don't you dare change our opinion of this shit show. Is it fun seeing "Featherine" or any Umineko character in Gou? Yes. Does it make it anything more than a shit show? Absolutely fucking not. And if she is a totally different character then shame on him again for such using such a lame fanservice bait. |
| To be fair Hanyuu uses it too, more commonly when she was an adult and when shes serious. Tamura uses it too. Who knows what Ryuukishis gonna do with 'Featherine'. If it was the actual Featherine I wonder how Rika would beat her anyway? Its not like you could stab a creator level witch with a sword and leave. Even more with a sword that has only been shown/stated to kill demons (and loopers) 'Featherine' may have hyped up some people. Tickled the need for a Umineko Anime adaptation and so on. Including an all powerfull Character (one of the strongest Characters in Fiction) into the story works in the context of Umineko, but turns Higurashi into a mess. This is probably the best reason for 'featherine' not actually being featherine. From what Ryuukishi said. Im expecting one more big twist near the ending. |
ChargecoulombFeb 22, 2021 6:04 PM
ssjokg said: Yes she often say that. UltimatMax said: Like she just showed up not even a single word said and people started on the "featherine is here 10/10" come one it's a character and people were shitting on the GOU as a whole because of bad/lazy writing i am myself likening the anime but when people jump to the "tie the universe train" i had to watch umineko to see the ties and even the manga. "Child of Man" are 3 words that Featherine frequently uses. And don't you dare change our opinion of this shit show. Is it fun seeing "Featherine" or any Umineko character in Gou? Yes. Does it make it anything more than a shit show? Absolutely fucking not. And if she is a totally different character then shame on him again for such using such a lame fanservice bait. I think that yourselfs already changed the opinion by just seeing this an previous discussions of the episodes. I hated the fact that i looked every single comment and thought that i had to watch the manga and anime of umineko to understand the connection between both. To be fair Hanyuu uses it too, more commonly when she was an adult and when shes serious. Tamura uses it too. Who knows what Ryuukishis gonna do with 'Featherine'. If it was the actual Featherine I wonder how Rika would beat her anyway? Its not like you could stab a creator level witch with a sword and leave. Even more with a sword that has only been shown/stated to kill demons (and loopers) 'Featherine' may have hyped up some people. Tickled the need for a Umineko Anime adaptation and so on. Including an all powerfull Character (one of the strongest Characters in Fiction) into the story works in the context of Umineko, but turns Higurashi into a mess. This is probably the best reason for 'featherine' not actually being featherine. From what Ryuukishi said. Im expecting one more big twist near the ending. That's exactly what i think it's better to have a sequel to umineko anime than to introduce right away the character and forcing viewers to watch manga , LN and play the LN. The anime adaptation of the 4 remaning episodes would be good. |
UltimatMaxFeb 22, 2021 6:14 PM
| Shiki is the best anime and unique with his style design, you can't change my mind from it |
UltimatMax said: ssjokg said: Yes she often say that. "Child of Man" are 3 words that Featherine frequently uses. And don't you dare change our opinion of this shit show. Is it fun seeing "Featherine" or any Umineko character in Gou? Yes. Does it make it anything more than a shit show? Absolutely fucking not. And if she is a totally different character then shame on him again for such using such a lame fanservice bait. I think that yourselfs already changed the opinion by just seeing this an previous discussions of the episodes. I hated the fact that i looked every single comment and thought that i had to watch the manga and anime of umineko to understand the connection between both. Then you must pay more attention to what you read because nobody that was trashing this pile of shit changed their opinion. And I fail to understand why reading Umineko and people being hyped(or not) abput a single character are in any way related. People were hyped for Amakusa as well, for some reason. Did you read Umineko for him as well? |
ssjokg said: The only reason i saw umineko was because people were saying that bern was rika from the future and that satoko was lambda from the future too.UltimatMax said: Yes she often say that. I think that yourselfs already changed the opinion by just seeing this an previous discussions of the episodes. I hated the fact that i looked every single comment and thought that i had to watch the manga and anime of umineko to understand the connection between both. Then you must pay more attention to what you read because nobody that was trashing this pile of shit changed their opinion. And I fail to understand why reading Umineko and people being hyped(or not) abput a single character are in any way related. People were hyped for Amakusa as well, for some reason. Did you read Umineko for him as well? That's i saw it , it was because the sheer amount of pleople saying it i couldn't keep myself the wait for next week episode, also i was just too curious about it and confused at the same time. |
| Shiki is the best anime and unique with his style design, you can't change my mind from it |
| Imagine debating whether Featherine is Featherine or not. UltimatMax said: Oh my lord you guys never learn.Ryukishi07 states the person's name in Higurashi Gou isn't "Featherine" but didn't specify if they are the same person. He's also saying Umineko is independent from Gou. If you had read his works (and understood them I guess), you would know to never trust or take as face value anything this guy says. "I am taking the word of the author as truth"... yes, truth... The truth has a lot of meanings for this guy. Basically he's saying that this new Featherine will not use the name Featherine, but she is still Featherine while possibly not being that "Featherine". In all the sense of the WTC series however, she IS The Featherine. PS. remind me who was it, R07 himself or the director who said that GOU was gonna be a remake with "small twists" old viewers will enjoy? |
Intelligent gets through situations which wise avoids. |
Chargecoulomb said: Interestingly enough this statement could be true if Featherine is not present. Many Anime only viewers here were confused when Featherine was brought up. Anime onlys are confused every other episode or even every few scenes because of all the context and details they are missing from season 1 and 2. Featherine is at worst as "weird" as Hanyuu was in her first reveal in the OG. In episode 17 the story suddenly became a military drama ffs, from their perspective. Adult NotHanyuuButAlsoNotFeatherine isnt that weird. |
True but Featherines appearance has caused a lot of hype regarding Umineko. A reviewer on YouTube stopped Gou so he could catch up on Umineko. The excitement regarding the series after five seconds of Featherine is probably not the same reaction people got when they saw Hanyuu. Fan reaction at seeing Hanyuu for the first time : Oh wow, Oyashirosama is a cute girl. Fan reaction at seeing Featherine : Ooohhhhhb Featherine!!!! Umineko anime when!? |
Chargecoulomb said: True but Featherines appearance has caused a lot of hype regarding Umineko. A reviewer on YouTube stopped Gou so he could catch up on Umineko. The excitement regarding the series after five seconds of Featherine is probably not the same reaction people got when they saw Hanyuu. Fan reaction at seeing Hanyuu for the first time : Oh wow, Oyashirosama is a cute girl. Fan reaction at seeing Featherine : Ooohhhhhb Featherine!!!! Umineko anime when!? Fan reaction because of Umineko's fan reaction. Not the same as what happens in the story. If they wanted to "catch up" then they should have put Gou on hold and start with the OG, since many fans were saying that after ep2. I dont see why missing a ton of details is not a big deal but reading 80+ hours of content for one Character, that I am 99.9999% sure wont need that extra Umineko knowledge, seems like a good idea. I am not going to pretend that I feel sorry for them now. |
| R07 says a lot of things, but then you realize people guesses it was Featherine because 1) The figure in the OP 2) Hanyuu's horn repairing, which we knew was the connection between the two of them since 10 years ago the argument that she isn't Featherine doesn't hold much water. He's not going to make a direct connection in the sense she's not going "Yes, I'm the overpowered bitch from the meta world from the popular When the Seagulls Cry™ series, Child of Man", but she's obvious going to be her own character in the series (Which raises the question, how is she not going to feel like a deus ex machina? Hanyuu had 2 novels to not feel like it) but everyone knows she's actual Featherine just like everyone knows Umineko Bernkastel is Higurashi Bernkastel. Rika and Hanyuu literally appears in Umineko's manga, Frederika's poems are used in Umineko, Takano literally appears in the PS3 version of Umineko now officially, this series has been connected for years. Of course R07 wants these works to stand on their own, which I think it's a fine logic, but it's pointless to pretend they are not connected when Bernkastel in Umineko literally spoils you half of the twists in Higurashi. |
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Oh really? Tell me more. |
Sorry should have mentioned it's the new Switch port of the PS3 version. They put all the side stories so now Memoirs of the 34 is voiced and everything and "the girl who wanted to become a god" is in the side story voiced by Takano VAs (I think they use both younger and older Takano VA for an overlapping effect or something). |
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You could literally put every single thing in this series on Featherine (if it's actually her, I still think it could be adult Hanyuu or the legend manifestation) How is Rika even supposed to beat her? Stab her with the OnigarinoRyouu? Use the Mountain dogs? Rika's best bet would be to not do anything and make her bored. Now that would be an ending. I can see it not being Featherine at all to be honest. All of Ryuukishis works have characters that look like certain other Characters. ( Trianthologys Fuuka, Karen, Miho...) looking and acting very similarly to Bern, Beato and Shannon. That statement about Gou being seperate from Umineko could mean a lot of things. Obviously Lambdas certainty is gone, so she's probably not present. Bern already is a part of Higurashi. Outside of this Featherine there is nothing tying Gou to Umineko. If she really isn't Featherine, then there would be no tie to Umineko. The shot of ep 21 I posted earlier makes me think that it might be Hanyuu instead of Featherine. ..... Or Ryuukishi might be trolling us and next episode we'll get a cameo from the Cats or something to prove that she is Featherine. Five seconds worth of information isn't enough to say anything. |
ChargecoulombFeb 23, 2021 4:42 AM
Chargecoulomb said: You could literally put every single thing in this series on Featherine (if it's actually her, I still think it could be adult Hanyuu or the legend manifestation) How is Rika even supposed to beat her? Stab her with the OnigarinoRyouu? Use the Mountain dogs? Rika's best bet would be to not do anything and make her bored. Now that would be an ending. I can see it not being Featherine at all to be honest. All of Ryuukishis works have characters that look like certain other Characters. ( Trianthologys Fuuka, Karen, Miho...) looking and acting very similarly to Bern, Beato and Shannon. That statement about Gou being seperate from Umineko could mean a lot of things. Obviously Lambdas certainty is gone, so she's probably not present. Bern already is a part of Higurashi. Outside of this Featherine there is nothing tying Gou to Umineko. If she really isn't Featherine, then there would be no tie to Umineko. The shot of ep 21 I posted earlier makes me think that it might be Hanyuu instead of Featherine. ..... Or Ryuukishi might be trolling us and next episode we'll get a cameo from the Cats or something to prove that she is Featherine. Five seconds worth of information isn't enough to say anything. My memories of post are foggy but i dont remember her doing much?? Her miko was doing all the work and she did something only when her miko was threatened....the first time only because the second it was amusing to her(and us). So, even with Featherine here Rika only has to face Satoko. |
ssjokg said: Chargecoulomb said: You could literally put every single thing in this series on Featherine (if it's actually her, I still think it could be adult Hanyuu or the legend manifestation) How is Rika even supposed to beat her? Stab her with the OnigarinoRyouu? Use the Mountain dogs? Rika's best bet would be to not do anything and make her bored. Now that would be an ending. I can see it not being Featherine at all to be honest. All of Ryuukishis works have characters that look like certain other Characters. ( Trianthologys Fuuka, Karen, Miho...) looking and acting very similarly to Bern, Beato and Shannon. That statement about Gou being seperate from Umineko could mean a lot of things. Obviously Lambdas certainty is gone, so she's probably not present. Bern already is a part of Higurashi. Outside of this Featherine there is nothing tying Gou to Umineko. If she really isn't Featherine, then there would be no tie to Umineko. The shot of ep 21 I posted earlier makes me think that it might be Hanyuu instead of Featherine. ..... Or Ryuukishi might be trolling us and next episode we'll get a cameo from the Cats or something to prove that she is Featherine. Five seconds worth of information isn't enough to say anything. My memories of post are foggy but i dont remember her doing much?? Her miko was doing all the work and she did something only when her miko was threatened....the first time only because the second it was amusing to her(and us). So, even with Featherine here Rika only has to face Satoko. Of course. If it is Featherine. Wouldn't acting for Featherine make Satoko her Miko? With the 'Oyashirosama's new Miko' thing that might be the case. So Featherine would most likely not let Rika just stop Satoko. Besides, it's unlikely that Satoko has a gun at the beginning of each loop, so all Rika has to do is stab her with the sword fragment while she's vulnerable. I doubt that will be an interesting ending. The events of Gou have to be interesting to Featherine. In Gou she's not watching from the Background, she's actively Instigating it. |
ChargecoulombFeb 23, 2021 5:31 AM
Chargecoulomb said: ssjokg said: My memories of post are foggy but i dont remember her doing much?? Her miko was doing all the work and she did something only when her miko was threatened....the first time only because the second it was amusing to her(and us). So, even with Featherine here Rika only has to face Satoko. Of course. If it is Featherine. Wouldn't acting for Featherine make Satoko her Miko? With the 'Oyashirosama's new Miko' thing that might be the case. So Featherine would most likely not let Rika just stop Satoko. Besides, it's unlikely that Satoko has a gun at the beginning of each loop, so all Rika has to do is stab her with the sword fragment while she's vulnerable. I doubt that will be an interesting ending. She didnt stop xxx from punching another miko. And where is the fun if the opponent cant fight back? |
ssjokg said: She didnt stop xxx from punching another miko. And where is the fun if the opponent cant fight back? (Seemingly) Unlike in Gou, She couldn't interfere. Endless 9. ssjokg said: And where is the fun if the opponent cant fight back? Only Beato and Battler were concerned with Fighting fairly in Umineko. |
ChargecoulombFeb 23, 2021 5:58 AM
| Wow that was another Great Episode... What kind of School that have a jail wtf.... See, Satoko if only you learn to say no to something that you didn't like... Seeing them all together playing games once again it's wholesome... Satoko wish has reached Oyashiro-sama??? Is that the Oyashiro-sama for Satoko? She give me Ara Ara vibe ngl... This is so good, I'm far more excited for the next episode.... |
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