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Syureria said: No die no Higurashi, The first episode of the latest arc still looks conducive, let's watch it for more than 3 episodes and what treasure we got... Still a little confused about Hinamizawa Syndrome. Marinate1016 said: +1 can someone explain this? I'm looking forwardWait, I’m a bit confused. What happened after last week’s revelation? Did satoko pull the trigger and make a new loop? I think they actually put that arc on hold and instead went to show what happened after matsuribayashi end, so that they can come back after we understand satokos motivations |
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| Tomitake about to stick his dick in crazy... If you want to leave Hinamizawa, you don't have to worry about Oyashiro-sama or his curse. You need to worry about Satoko and her gat. |
| Yeah, the actual arc is on pause while we're back on the world of Matsubiriyashi to see what happened with Satoko and Rika. All in all. This was a decent episode. Higurashi is more about slow tension, so episodes like this are always nice. Instead of wanton gut spilling. Only 6 episodes remain. Since now they've moved into the answer portions it seems. Be it witch shenanigans or otherwise I'm looking forward to the reason for Satoko to deep six Rika in Matsubiriyashi. Since Hinamaizawa Syndrome seemed to be tamed and all. Satoko would be doing anything she does without its influence. |
ChargecoulombFeb 4, 2021 3:55 PM
SilentCaay said: Tomitake about to stick his dick in crazy... If you want to leave Hinamizawa, you don't have to worry about Oyashiro-sama or his curse. You need to worry about Satoko and her gat. The anime doesn't really confirm it, but she really does seem to suffer from Hinamaizawa Syndrome. In Matsubiriyashi's epilogue in Sui she's undergoing treatment for it. https://theguraguraman.tumblr.com/post/119245090090/oh-daaaamn-now-thats-fucking-cool-it-seems-like also this is Satoko vs Amakuza. |
ChargecoulombFeb 4, 2021 3:53 PM
| So was the "leak" about a future arc/part/title of the series being "sotsu" a false leak? |
| Animation so bad that Takano cries and no tears come out, despite it being a very drammatic scene. Imagine being worse than DEEN at animation... |
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| Wait, I actually enjoyed an episode of Higurashi Gou??????? I didn't think that would happen after episode 15-17 ngl. Like 5 minutes of the recap + op which I didn't mind since the actual content itself from kai was nice. As a higurashi kai sequel, this is EXACTLY what I would have preferred. A nice and chill slice of life with the characters post-kai. Obviously this is just a flashback and a setup for the actual Satoko arc but man... this episode really hit well for me and it's gonna be a shame when it switches to it's usual serious tone. Hopefully next episode will be a nice and chill one too so I can enjoy this while it lasts. The new ending is a banger as expected. It's like the complete opposite of god's syndrome and I love it and hopefully it gets paired up with good visuals. This was the very first episode I loved since episode 14 so I really really really hope it just doesn't lose it's momentum. |
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black1blade said: kagmole said: It would have been better for sure than this mixed sequel/remake thing (which turns out to not be a remake at all). I think marketability wise, it's hard to sell a s3 to a 13 year old show that already had quite a definitive ending. At least they basically told us early on (rika ep2) so that anyone who cared could go back and watch the og. except in japan they DID show higurashi season 1 and season 2 right before the current season and sorta implied u NEEDED to watch it before watching the remake so its on mal and its dumbass ppl for thinking its a remake and not something else |
| So embarrased with Tensura fans and the fandom, how have we degraded |
| Oh, they actually went with Matsuribayashi's plot structure. Alright then, that's one good thing for this arc. I don't see any reason for the recap, however. These people are still marketing this as newcomer friendly or something? Just slap 1984 on the calendar at the beginning and old fans will know what's what. The new design is odd, I'm not sure if I like it. Worst, Keichi and Rena didn't grow at all which just felt jarring. Mion's excuse is pure bullshit though. Instead of saying that she has new friends, just make it that she's trying to be a good student for once because she will be the next family head which is one important trait of her character. Shion didn't even come to the festival either and no explanation as to why. Where the hell is Satoshi anyway? A year later and no news about him, Irie? Poor dude barely got anything in the OG ending, don't tell he won't get any here as well. I still have lower expectations for this but hopefully, things will pick up the pace soon and my opinion might change. |
pupul said: As Ryukishi usually does, I think this episode spelled out what's about to go wrong. Keiichi and Rena talk about how "In other schools, everyone is split by years, sometimes even by class, and so relationships change and drift" This episode also shows that Satoko has a hard time with memorization. Even if both of them somehow do make it into St. Lucia at the same time, they sure has heck won't be in the same class. This provides a clear way for Satoko to become isolated, and bullied. She'll eventually crack, and make a wild, manipulative deal with a supernatural being to go back in time. Funny, reminds me of another St. Lucia student that got isolated, bullied, and then eventually cracked and made a wild, manipulative deal with a supernatural being to go back in time to see people she loved and understood. ZEN ZEN DAME DA! How can Satoko be bad at memorization when she(and the other club members) memorized all the cards based on the scratch marks they have? That and traps should show that she is smart, especially for her age. If a random game of cards is used to show that she is bad at something...that she was really good before then R07 failed. But I bet it isnt any bullying. She probably wont be able to attend St Lucia.....Then again, whatever the reason, doesnt justify her actions. Not to be harsh towards Ange, but being a recluse that talks to imaginary people didnt help her case at all. Sure the treatment she received for being alive wasnt fair, but she didnt try to help herself. |
ssjokgFeb 5, 2021 1:39 AM
swordmaster2551 said: Tsukumo_Yuuma said: So Satoshi is still in a coma in 1984, will he wake up ever? Man I can't remember if satoko ever found out about satoshi in kai. If not, you think they still haven't told her? Lol They didn't tell her, and from what we saw this episode it seems that she still doesn't know |
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Gar_Logan said: So was the "leak" about a future arc/part/title of the series being "sotsu" a false leak? Seems like it's probably fake, unless there's a 2nd season named Sotsu (but i feel like they can conclude everything this arc and a 2nd season isn't needed but we'll see) |
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| Don't know why everyone is so confused lol. Clearly the events of this episode take place before Rika start to loop again. And, of course, is the same timeline as the end of Higurashi Kai, that's why they showed us Takano being defeated. Not to mention that in the end Rika and Satoko are in the library, and if you remember well, Satoko gets angry with her because she wanted to go to St. Lucia and they showed us that time a flashback of them talking in the library. I think next episodes will clarify us the reasons why Satoko is now the villian. |
| With how different everybody's personalities seem to be. It's either inconsistent writing or indicative of Gou being in a different Hinamaizawa. Mion is too emotional, when compared to the original. The person who would never loose trust in her friends gets easily manipulated by Satoko(probably) into thinking Rika is the devil. Rena feels like she's pretending to be happy. Her tone is kinda flat. Satoko is... You know. Keichii is more attentive than usual. What happened to the magician of words? Ooshi would immediately blame the Sonozakis if he ever went L5 instead the man goes to kill Rika. Takano feels guilty about her plans. Teppei is way too tame. This is the man who would cripple Satoko by threatning to destroy Satoshis stuff,.and thinks about how to have his way with her once she grows up. Shion doesn't go L5 in watanagishi. Instead she is oddly calm. Indicative signs like hearing banging sounds in the shed don't happen. Rika. Probably isn't the queen Carrier anymore. |
ChargecoulombFeb 5, 2021 3:16 AM
| Rika finally able to grow up a bit. :> Takano defeated without any casualties. Hinamizawa Syndrome being talked about in the open like a normal disease. It's good that people are now aware of it + meds to suppress it or cure it. three families make an announcement, helps make people at ease that Oyashiro-sama is not angry anymore. so far, mostly good things happening. But Satoko could do some evil to turn things around real quick.. looks like she does not like Rika leaving the village to go to another school. |
Liddo-kunFeb 5, 2021 6:18 AM
| I guess that's correct, but doesn't the drug immediately switch someone to an L5 state and they end up clawing their throat out soon after. I doubt they'll have the time to kill anyone. |
ChargecoulombFeb 5, 2021 5:03 AM
| Those three girls who joined the game are smol Haruhi, Hestia and Hanekawa. |
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| That was a really great episode, it's nice to see a direct continuation of what happened in Kai since I haven't found the time to watch Rei yet. It's not the same without Mion in the club :((. Would have been nice if Rena and Keiichi had a growth in their appearance too. We are probably going to get a few episodes focusing on Satoko and what led her to do the things she did in Gou. I just wanted all of them to be happy (︶︹︺). That new ED fucking slaps though, I really like it, can't wait to see the visuals in the ED next week. |
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| wow the girl has horns...oh that's Hanyuu...but why was she instantly there all of a sudden? sorry i'm new to this franchise... |
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dylelouch said: Don't know why everyone is so confused lol. Clearly the events of this episode take place before Rika start to loop again. And, of course, is the same timeline as the end of Higurashi Kai, that's why they showed us Takano being defeated. Not to mention that in the end Rika and Satoko are in the library, and if you remember well, Satoko gets angry with her because she wanted to go to St. Lucia and they showed us that time a flashback of them talking in the library. I think next episodes will clarify us the reasons why Satoko is now the villian. Agreed! I was first thrown off, but then I was like "Oh yeah, this is the continuation of Kai." They could've done things a bit better and more chronological? It wasn't that bad either way. |
| it's sad that the score low, this deserves 10 better than AOT anyway this is interesting to see the continuation of Kai after this anime finish, I will need to rewatch everything from the beginning |
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matias067 said: wow the girl has horns...oh that's Hanyuu...but why was she instantly there all of a sudden? sorry i'm new to this franchise... That was Hanyuu indeed :) She was there cause this episode picks up where the second season of Higurashi (Higurashi no naku koro ni Kai) ended. Everything you've seen this epiode happens before the first episode of Gou. Without having seen the first two seasons, you won't understand most of what happened and why Hanyuu was there. |
There's no possible way you can steal my heart    I want to drown in this sweet Melancholy |
ssjokg said: again, i feel everything being said right now applies more to rika than mion. she's explicitly saying she wants nothing to do with the village and insulting it in the processchitchawa said: i don't think the game club itself is the reason for her festival absence. its just a detail that tells the audience she has things going on in her new life that take priority to her than maintaining her old friendships. i'd be surprised if there were more details concerning this since this is all we needed to know what her post-hinamizawa mentality is like. does shion really require an explanation? i wasn't expecting her there in the first place Making new friends doesn't work like that. You don't just Adiòs your old friends that you fought with and even were willing to take a bullet for some new friends a year later. Even without their final battle against Takano, there is no way Mion would just ignore them. At least that was her character before Gou. Shion isn't like Mion. While she could have visited the village for the fest, and specifically Satoko, she isnt as close to the rest as Mion is. I will just wait for an explanation if we even get one. Hey, at least she didn't become a psycho killer like Satoko so that's something.  meanwhile, this was her mindset throughout all of higurashi  the difference is that getting her perspective and reasoning allows us to understand where she's coming from. though if we're solely looking at how this relates to her character in the original series, which is exactly what we're doing with mion, rika's words and actions are far more uncharacteristic of her than what we're seeing from mion. this is why i'm not really with the whole "she'd never do this" talk. the parallel shows us that their feelings toward this aren't black and white. that said, i don't think how they handled this was ideal. i just find mion not coming to watanagashi for a year trivial compared to how they handled rika |
chitchawa said: ssjokg said: again, i feel everything being said right now applies more to rika than mion. she's explicitly saying she wants nothing to do with the village and insulting it in the processMaking new friends doesn't work like that. You don't just Adiòs your old friends that you fought with and even were willing to take a bullet for some new friends a year later. Even without their final battle against Takano, there is no way Mion would just ignore them. At least that was her character before Gou. Shion isn't like Mion. While she could have visited the village for the fest, and specifically Satoko, she isnt as close to the rest as Mion is. I will just wait for an explanation if we even get one. Hey, at least she didn't become a psycho killer like Satoko so that's something. meanwhile, this was her mindset throughout all of higurashi the difference is that getting her perspective and reasoning allows us to understand where she's coming from. though if we're solely looking at how this relates to her character in the original series, which is exactly what we're doing with mion, rika's words and actions are far more uncharacteristic of her than what we're seeing from mion. this is why i'm not really with the whole "she'd never do this" talk. the parallel shows us that their feelings toward this aren't black and white. that said, i don't think how they handled this was ideal. i just find mion not coming to watanagashi for a year trivial compared to how they handled rika Moving to the next town and not having fun with her friends are different things. Wanting better education and to expand her world after finally escaping the loop is also a very natural thing to do. Disliking the village itself isnt an issue either, since even without Takano it has a myriad of issues that only helped Takano's plans.Even if she loves the people in it, it makes sense to dislike the place. Hell, you dont even need a her loop experiences to dislike a village like that. And we compare the desires of a desperate Rika that was trapped for many years(If she goes that far back in time then that's way before the start of Higurashi) and a Rika that is finally free and is allowed to live. It isnt uncharacteristic to want more things in your life. Until the show tells us that Rika stopped giving a shit for her old friends, I dont buy any of that....well even if she did, Satoko will still be a shit character now. Back to Mion, not coming to one festival is fine. But if the reason ends up being her new friends then that's "worse" than Rika's -current- sin. |
| Seeing satoko and rika in school uniforms made me Schwing I wonder what will happen now. Will there be a Hinamizawa Syndrome 2.0 or something xD |
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Jean-Antoine said: jTiKey said: How to make an after story - a backstory. And make it worse. As you can see - it's easy. We cannot change anything Now, all that left - is waiting til the end. "I've wished for this, I've bitched at that, I've left behind this little fact - You cannot kill what you did not create" So, maybe you are the one, who can answer my question "why does every character WALKING? Why they doesn't use they bicycles except for 2 times in the watadamashi?" Because they'd all get fat from Rena's bento box mountains if they didn't walk |
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| Considering how they had a scene just about how Hinamizawa is special for having everyone in the same class, but other schools would split classes and so friendships would change and disappear I think it's pretty likely Satoko will pass but she will end up in a different class from Rika's and they will start drifting away from each other at that point. |
Scarlett_white said: Oh that's nice to know. Atleast the people in Japan were having their heads on their shoulders. Wonder where all the MAL GOU advocates got their idea to blindly suggest watching GOU instead of OG.except in japan they DID show higurashi season 1 and season 2 right before the current season and sorta implied u NEEDED to watch it before watching the remake so its on mal and its dumbass ppl for thinking its a remake and not something else pupul said: Tbh, this actually makes sense. And I guess is what will happen if she does get in, however I somehow think she won't.This episode also shows that Satoko has a hard time with memorization. Even if both of them somehow do make it into St. Lucia at the same time, they sure has heck won't be in the same class. This provides a clear way for Satoko to become isolated, and bullied. She'll eventually crack, and make a wild, manipulative deal with a supernatural being to go back in time. Funny, reminds me of another St. Lucia student that got isolated, bullied, and then eventually cracked and made a wild, manipulative deal with a supernatural being to go back in time to see people she loved and understood. ZEN ZEN DAME DA! St. Lucia doesn't stick in as being easy school to get into, and if Satoko indeed has memorization problems, I don't think she's going to have easy time. ssjokg said: Well yes, this is a good point, however... If Satoko indeed is good at general memorization, why she's always having troubles between Broccoli and Cauliflower.How can Satoko be bad at memorization when she(and the other club members) memorized all the cards based on the scratch marks they have? That and traps should show that she is smart, especially for her age. If a random game of cards is used to show that she is bad at something...that she was really good before then R07 failed. It does seem contradicting, wonder if there's a reason behind it. |
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Hulio said: Well yes, this is a good point, however... If Satoko indeed is good at general memorization, why she's always having troubles between Broccoli and Cauliflower. It does seem contradicting, wonder if there's a reason behind it. There is the popular fan theory that she is colorblind. Maybe it is supposed to make her be quirky, like people that mix up right and left or onion and garlic(the latter is used for an idiom in my country for people that mix up two different things). tl;dr: there is no reason probably. |
chitchawa said: ssjokg said: again, i feel everything being said right now applies more to rika than mion. she's explicitly saying she wants nothing to do with the village and insulting it in the processMaking new friends doesn't work like that. You don't just Adiòs your old friends that you fought with and even were willing to take a bullet for some new friends a year later. Even without their final battle against Takano, there is no way Mion would just ignore them. At least that was her character before Gou. Shion isn't like Mion. While she could have visited the village for the fest, and specifically Satoko, she isnt as close to the rest as Mion is. I will just wait for an explanation if we even get one. Hey, at least she didn't become a psycho killer like Satoko so that's something. meanwhile, this was her mindset throughout all of higurashi the difference is that getting her perspective and reasoning allows us to understand where she's coming from. though if we're solely looking at how this relates to her character in the original series, which is exactly what we're doing with mion, rika's words and actions are far more uncharacteristic of her than what we're seeing from mion. this is why i'm not really with the whole "she'd never do this" talk. the parallel shows us that their feelings toward this aren't black and white. that said, i don't think how they handled this was ideal. i just find mion not coming to watanagashi for a year trivial compared to how they handled rika One of these is her fantasy based on a future she didn't knew could come, one is once that future got there. There's no inconsistency there. People can want things but once they get it realize they want something else instead, its very human. |
| Is it just me, or is Keiichi just out of character in this episode? The dude is straight up banning traps... the same dude who embraced the principle of "do whatever necessary to win" in his FIRST game, who created strategies to cheat with Rena, who pulled the biggest cheat with Kameda in the Tatarigoroshi baseball game... suddenly decides that cheating and traps are a no-no? Call it growing up or call it inconsistent, that's certainly one of the things that are making Satoko dislike the future. I don't know why she's pinning it all down on Rika, but there were things that bothered her even before Rika moved to St. Lucia and she isn't taking it out on those who did them (Mion and Keiichi). So definitely there's someone with malicious will towards Rika that's making Satoko zero in on her, because we haven't gotten Satoko punishing Mion and Keiichi for their sins and making them stay in Hinamizawa and love traps respectively. Chargecoulomb said: With how different everybody's personalities seem to be. It's either inconsistent writing or indicative of Gou being in a different Hinamaizawa. Mion is too emotional, when compared to the original. The person who would never loose trust in her friends gets easily manipulated by Satoko(probably) into thinking Rika is the devil. Rena feels like she's pretending to be happy. Her tone is kinda flat. Satoko is... You know. Keichii is more attentive than usual. What happened to the magician of words? Ooshi would immediately blame the Sonozakis if he ever went L5 instead the man goes to kill Rika. Takano feels guilty about her plans. Teppei is way too tame. This is the man who would cripple Satoko by threatning to destroy Satoshis stuff,.and thinks about how to have his way with her once she grows up. Shion doesn't go L5 in watanagishi. Instead she is oddly calm. Indicative signs like hearing banging sounds in the shed don't happen. Rika. Probably isn't the queen Carrier anymore. That's why I like the theory of the mirror worlds a lot. You also see these inconsistencies in small things like the statue's arm not being broken and the arm that is lifted being inverted, Keiichi standing in front of the club against Takano instead of Hanyuu, Shmion saying the torture instruments in the Sonozaki underground storehouse were never used (when in OG they were used to torture Shion), the classroom being in the second floor of the forestry service instead of the first... There are many little details that are contrary to what has already been depicted. Unfortunately, there's too little time left for them to satisfactorily pull out a reveal of the mirror world, so I don't think they will be going that route. But it would have been cool to see. chitchawa said: ssjokg said: again, i feel everything being said right now applies more to rika than mion. she's explicitly saying she wants nothing to do with the village and insulting it in the processMaking new friends doesn't work like that. You don't just Adiòs your old friends that you fought with and even were willing to take a bullet for some new friends a year later. Even without their final battle against Takano, there is no way Mion would just ignore them. At least that was her character before Gou. Shion isn't like Mion. While she could have visited the village for the fest, and specifically Satoko, she isnt as close to the rest as Mion is. I will just wait for an explanation if we even get one. Hey, at least she didn't become a psycho killer like Satoko so that's something. meanwhile, this was her mindset throughout all of higurashi the difference is that getting her perspective and reasoning allows us to understand where she's coming from. though if we're solely looking at how this relates to her character in the original series, which is exactly what we're doing with mion, rika's words and actions are far more uncharacteristic of her than what we're seeing from mion. this is why i'm not really with the whole "she'd never do this" talk. the parallel shows us that their feelings toward this aren't black and white. that said, i don't think how they handled this was ideal. i just find mion not coming to watanagashi for a year trivial compared to how they handled rika To be honest, I never liked that change in Rika even when the episode first aired. Sure, I still don't think wanting to leave the village is a bad thing, even less warranting all that punishment, but it seemed so out of place with the Rika we know. Rika is a woman with the mental age of 110/111 years old. Someone who has grown so much and seen so much shit doesn't strike me as a person who would have such a childlish motive as "being fancy and refined". What's next, is she going to enter My Sweet Sixteen Japan edition? A person with her mental age should be well over that. Not to mention, St. Lucia, which is a Catholic school with very strict rules, a snobby culture and a rich and materialistic outlook from all that Shion and Ange have let us see, doesn't seem a place where a poor, country girl who is sly, irreverent, disrespectful of elders, loves to prank others and is a shinto priestess and the reincarnation of a deity would go, let alone fit in. I really don't like the way that was handled. Instead of showing us 13 episodes that barely added something new, exploring the psychological trauma that Rika has after Matsuribayashi that end up in her deciding to leave the village because the best way to heal is to stay away, and how she suddenly became posh princess, would have been more rewarding. |
| I'd guess they'll cover why Rika wants to go there next week, but I guess it won't go much beyond what they've introduced already (she wants to go somewhere different after spending 100 years locked in Hinamizawa and finally having freedom). |
random_weirdo said: So definitely there's someone with malicious will towards Rika that's making Satoko zero in on her, because we haven't gotten Satoko punishing Mion and Keiichi for their sins and making them stay in Hinamizawa and love traps respectively. I wouldn't say that this is true. She did kinda punish both Mion and Keiichi within the loops we've been shown. In Gou's second arc, someone shot Mion in the head and Satoko was laying right next to her. We still don't know who murdered them, but it's not that far fetched that it was Satoko who shot Mion and rendered her unable to protect Keiichi (at least from her point of view). She also took Keiichi to her house where he was either assaulted by Teppei or fell into one of Satoko's traps (which would be extremely fitting cause he's banning traps and she hurts him pretty bad with one). I doubt that was a coincidence now that we've learned that Satoko was "evil" all along (in Gou). Sure, none of that is as bad as what she's doing to Rika tho, so your point still stands (and mine is just speculation haha). I could totally see her messing with all of her friends tho - she's technically already playing with their lifes. If R07 doesn't do some emtreme plot twist as to why Satoko is doing all of this, her character is pretty much ruined :x |
StormxNightmareFeb 5, 2021 4:48 PM
There's no possible way you can steal my heart I want to drown in this sweet Melancholy |
| Ok I don't know what the fuck is going on. Are we in a new shard again after the cliffhanger last week where Satoko probably shot Rika at the end? Or is this a flashback and we will get back to that? It looks like it picked up from the good ending of the original suddenly... |
| We are back in the original Matsubiriyashi fragment. Before the start of the "time loop" in Gou, before Rika gets killed. Satoko does look lonely, so I could imagine her killing Rika thinking that she abandoned her or something, but there also has to be some kind of supernatural being responsible since Rika (at least) requires Hanyuus power to jump from one world to another. As random_weirdo said. Rika's mentality is weird. Her perspective in the vn showed that she was far too mature to worry about things like fancy schools. Seems a weird choice for her to make. Also she would easily notice that Satoko was lonely or getting bullied or something like that. No matter how much Satoko would try to hide it. (She's not exactly good at hiding her feelings) This series might end up destroying everybody's Character, but mostly Rika and Satoko. Maybe a hint for Gou is that everyone's personalities are wrong in some way. Instead of a different Hinamaizawa or a mirror world it might indicate other key differences. Ex. Oyashiro Sama's statue being different might indicate a different Hanyuu or something like that. Although keep in mind it necessarily doesn't mean anything. Small minute details can change between each Kakera Rika jumps to. Major differences like a character not being there, or small ones like these. Does anybody else find it weird that Rika can still loop without Hanyuu? It's specifically Hanyuus power so... She must still be alive, or there's some other being responsible for it. Thats why unless they bring in Tamura or any Umineko characters, Hanyuu might be the big bad. |
ChargecoulombFeb 5, 2021 9:37 PM
| This adaption is taking a huge diarrhea dump on higurashi as a franchise. If anything this is going to turn people away from the Visual Novel. It feels like an edgy 12 year old wrote this re-telling. There is no Tsukihime anime and there is no Higurashi Gou. Denial works for me. |
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random_weirdo said: Is it just me, or is Keiichi just out of character in this episode? The dude is straight up banning traps... the same dude who embraced the principle of "do whatever necessary to win" in his FIRST game, who created strategies to cheat with Rena, who pulled the biggest cheat with Kameda in the Tatarigoroshi baseball game... suddenly decides that cheating and traps are a no-no? He is. It feels like the characters' personalities in Gou exist to serve the narrative the writer is trying to create. So Mion now doesn't care about her friends, Rena lost all her acumen an K1's is kinda just there. To be honest, I never liked that change in Rika even when the episode first aired. Sure, I still don't think wanting to leave the village is a bad thing, even less warranting all that punishment, but it seemed so out of place with the Rika we know. Rika is a woman with the mental age of 110/111 years old. Someone who has grown so much and seen so much shit doesn't strike me as a person who would have such a childlish motive as "being fancy and refined". What's next, is she going to enter My Sweet Sixteen Japan edition? A person with her mental age should be well over that. Not to mention, St. Lucia, which is a Catholic school with very strict rules, a snobby culture and a rich and materialistic outlook from all that Shion and Ange have let us see, doesn't seem a place where a poor, country girl who is sly, irreverent, disrespectful of elders, loves to prank others and is a shinto priestess and the reincarnation of a deity would go, let alone fit in. I really don't like the way that was handled. Instead of showing us 13 episodes that barely added something new, exploring the psychological trauma that Rika has after Matsuribayashi that end up in her deciding to leave the village because the best way to heal is to stay away, and how she suddenly became posh princess, would have been more rewarding. I don't think it's that weird, it's true that her mental age is incredibly old, but she never had the chance to actually "grow up" and literally spent 100 years playing with children. It's not something that is possible in real life so you can't quite predict how something like this would work, but it would mean she lacks the wisdom that would usually come with her age. As for St. Lucia, honestly I think it's just meant to be a set-piece to explore the characters' issues. And Ange had legit depression so she would have fared badly pretty much anywhere else. R07 probably just picked it because it's iconic and familiar with the WTC fans more than anything. The "hick town stuff" is indeed weird though, but Rika's character has been incredibly off since the start of the first arc. She basically un-learned everything she learned in Matsuri and spent 13 episodes throwing dice metaphors around. |
Jin_uzukiFeb 5, 2021 10:46 PM
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Jin_uzuki said: He is. It feels like the characters' personalities in Gou exist to serve the narrative the writer is trying to create. So Mion now doesn't care about her friends, Rena lost all her acumen an K1's is kinda just there. This is the main reason I don't like Gou. It feels like the person who wrote it skimmed through the wiki pages of said characters and somehow mixed them up. Somehow all the characters feel inconsistent and generic. Character traits of Rena and Keichii were outright ignored. Jin_uzuki said: The "hick town stuff" is indeed weird though, but Rika's character has been incredibly off since the start of the first arc. She basically un-learned everything she learned in Matsuri and spent 13 episodes throwing dice metaphors around. Rika's personality should be far more mature. Even in Matsubiriyashi she should have noticed that Satoko looked unhappy. She didn't. It's weird as hell. This is the same girl who went out of her way to inject Shion and (try to) inject Rena with the cure to stop them from going L5. She doesn't even try anything like that with Satoko. She should have been the first person to notice Satokos weird behaviour. She didn't. We the viewers noticed it first. The same girl who was willing to kill her own mother so that she could be happy and with everyone in the Matsubiriyashi world. Honestly I believe that this might end up being a advertisement for Mei. Nothing more. Is Ryuukishi doing all the writing? I can't think so. Regardless of the story I'm sure he'll at least get his own characters right. This might be the last bow of Higurashi. It's sad if it ends with a disappointment. Umineko has a bittersweet ending. Higurashi was about fighting fate so it makes sense for it to have a good ending, but no I guess. Maybe, just maybe. All of these points will make sense when the answers are given. I just hope Hanyuu isn't the big bad. It'll be a horrible character arc for her. |
ChargecoulombFeb 5, 2021 11:58 PM
swordmaster2551 said: Byniavo said: they're like 12...Seeing satoko and rika in school uniforms made me Schwing I wonder what will happen now. Will there be a Hinamizawa Syndrome 2.0 or something xD Even better then! |
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