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| I really liked Asuna meeting Kirito but the harem part is trash. |
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
| I love SAO but the harem aspect really cheapens the whole tone of the show. I thought with them taking SAO to a more mature and darker place they might stop the petty harem fights but no! Anyway, i did actually enjoy this episode, especially the part where Asuna and Kirito reunited. It was so sweet when he reacted to her because he hasn't had that much of a reaction to anything so far. That sword fight between Asuna and Alice was awesome too! |
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| Asuna VS Alice was so precious and adorable It seems a lot of people hate the harem, I agree it was forced, but it feels like they put it in there more for the inside joke "welcome to the harem!" rather than just throwing a harem moment in there just for the sake of harems so I feel like it was a nice giggle after all the 'very serious talk about serious things' in the rest of the episode. I'm not mad at it. |
| I had to laugh when Asuna and the other girls gathered at the same spot, all proclaiming how Kirito is important to them. It was like a small harem convention gathering. XD At least we get to see Liena again, though. =) Jokes aside, this episode was pretty satisfying. Asuna's words was able to convince Ronie and Tiese, as both girls agreed to let Asuna see Kirito, which led to a really nice scene where Asuna hugs Kirito. However, after that was done, Alice came in, going by the mantra is action first, questions later and ended up dueling with Asuna, before Bercouli stopped the fight. With those misunderstandings out of the way, it was good to see how Asuna was able to explain her situation more thoroughly to the Integrity Knights at the meeting they had. I now want to see Asuna and Alice in action already. =) |
Kissing without consent? It would be 201X's rape / sexual assault. |
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Shortbarrelraifu said: It's likely that the show failed to convey the intension of the novel. And your assumption based on motivation matter works well.kuroneko99 said: Made an account just to reply this ... I also watch this SAO from ep1 with simmiliar perspective as your, but mine might be leaned toward 'operational side' of such an A.I. rather than usual harem show.In this episode, a certain extent of my question was solved. But it's not persuasive enough to seek Alice so badly. Although they need a highly developed autonomic software for AI weapons, it's too much for AI weapons to have (such a strong) will. In my limited understanding and wildest imagination, this show (Haven't read the Novel yet.) might have a hard time telling how writer managed to made Alice willingly serve as a Military A.I. It's kinda Alice got Drafted into Military service you know, without both good reason and urgency for her or underworld resident ... And with such her capability to think, decide, and act ... Expect the dilema of dealing with a Conscripted Soldier ... Many are low motivated, etc. etc. ,Basically way more chaotic than the usual Volunter soldier. (Just read experiences of people who got into it, or have to deal with conscripted people on daily basis) Or you could take the dark route, Do Forced syntethization/Memory Wipe before put her inside a militarized drone ... But that wouldn't be pleasant for me, and will backfire when she got her memory back in the future. So i unintentionally decided to wrote sketch/draft about it, just for the sake of keeping my sanity under control ... Using different Characters thought. Though it may be too much for weapons to install not only logical thinking but also emotion and will. In such a case, you have to explain the AIs the background of the war and persuade them beforehand. XD Anyway I think some people want fictions to have well-made fabrications. If SAO lacks this, the show doesn't have so much difference from Fate series. |
kuroneko99Dec 15, 2019 5:51 PM
Shortbarrelraifu said: kuroneko99 said: In this episode, a certain extent of my question was solved. But it's not persuasive enough to seek Alice so badly. Although they need a highly developed autonomic software for AI weapons, it's too much for AI weapons to have (such a strong) will. Made an account just to reply this ... I also watch this SAO from ep1 with simmiliar perspective as your, but mine might be leaned toward 'operational side' of such an A.I. rather than usual harem show. In my limited understanding and wildest imagination, this show (Haven't read the Novel yet.) might have a hard time telling how writer managed to made Alice willingly serve as a Military A.I. It's kinda Alice got Drafted into Military service you know, without both good reason and urgency for her or underworld resident ... And with such her capability to think, decide, and act ... Expect the dilema of dealing with a Conscripted Soldier ... Many are low motivated, etc. etc. ,Basically way more chaotic than the usual Volunter soldier. (Just read experiences of people who got into it, or have to deal with conscripted people on daily basis) Or you could take the dark route, Do Forced syntethization/Memory Wipe before put her inside a militarized drone ... But that wouldn't be pleasant for me, and will backfire when she got her memory back in the future. So i unintentionally decided to wrote sketch/draft about it, just for the sake of keeping my sanity under control ... Using different Characters thought. Finally a comment besides the "harem" thing. "this show might have a hard time telling how writer managed to made Alice willingly serve as a Military A.I." I don't think so, because i guess (i havent read the LN either after this point) the whole RATH millitary motivation is a bluff to obtain that huge budget. That's why this excuse, that stupid robot, all that sounds bullshit. Because it really is. To me, the Kayaba plan is still behind everything and this project is part of something greater. In fact, creating digital LEGIT life is great enough. |
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| 4 girls 1 comatose boy. You know they are gonna make doujin out of that. |
| ASUNA! Finally. This will only get better from now on. Aaaand, we're already with 2 episodes left for this cour. God I hate split cour. WHY DO YOU HAVE TO SPLIT COURS THIS TIME. AAAAAA. |
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| LOLZ at Asuna & Alice: "HUMPF!" BWAHAHAHAHA he's my husbando! no! he's mine! lolz! and 2 more girls was added! hahahah! 5/5. |
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| so kirito is going to wake up at the end of the series........ |
“You can always die. It's living that takes real courage." - Himura Kenshin” . |
Kaiser-chan said: 4 girls 1 comatose boy. You know they are gonna make doujin out of that. Are you feeling jealous or sth? If so, there are plenty BL mangas and doujins to go around. You will find countless KiritoXEugeo alone lmao. |
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nazsa said: Kaiser-chan said: 4 girls 1 comatose boy. You know they are gonna make doujin out of that. Are you feeling jealous or sth? If so, there are plenty BL mangas and doujins to go around. You will find countless KiritoXEugeo alone lmao. Why would I? I am looking forward to that. |
Kaiser-chan said: Why would I? I am looking forward to that. Oh sorry. My sarcasm detector is malfunctioning again. |
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| YASSSSS Asuna in the Fluctlight world under a superuser account, literally the goddess of the in-game world. And of course, she can finally see Kirito face-to-face more about his comatose stance, while to the others, she's just a God by name. And the moment both Alice and Asuna meet, tensions run high. But as is with the "lovers' quarrel", both juniors Ronie and Liena have no idea what they're into (subsequently they did) and suddenly this ship is afloat with waifus on one comatose boy. Once Asuna fills in the news of Earth for them, all of the remaining Integrity Knights are understood of the severity of the issue from start to finish, the puzzle pieces that were once scattered are now slowly forming into one big picture. Question is, how will the discussion about Kirito bring an end to this war? |
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Nemesis16 said: Farabeuf said: I feel the same way as you do. Classic SAO. They have good premises, killer animation but then they go and do weird unnecessary stuff that makes you facepalm. You have a perfectly good triangle with two awesome female characters and then you have to shoehorn a fecking triangle into it. I hate these little SAO "let us girls sit down and rave about Kirito" group sessions. There's no "freaking triangle". Alice and Asuna are the only ones relevant characters. Those 4 characters weren't there because they love him, Ronye was there because she was his kouhai and Liena because she's his senpai, along Alice who he knew there. Those were the three people along Eugeo who's dead that Kirito mostly connected in the underworld and it was to show their connection with him. That's the literal intention of the scene but amazingly, most people can't interpret this and just throw terms like harem here and there. Which I'll repeat, none of those characters outside of Asuna and Alice have romantic feelings for Kirito. greed2 said: I think this is the point where Kirito should be thankful that there is a system that allows him to create "digital clones" of himself. If I was in Kirito's situation, and if my digital clones are able to understand that the anger of Waifu is worse than Self-Destruction, I think having "digital clones" satisfy each Waifu would be a good idea at this point; with the exception of Asuna, the rest of this Episode's Waifu are "digital" On the side note, Asuna is right, the REAL WORLD is ugly beyond description Every Kirito would love Asuna A harem in anime or manga setting doesn't necessarily need a romantic relationship to be such. The presence of a character with lots of people of the opposite sex around them is enough. You should document yourself more and fanboy less. |
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| Ignoring the weird Kirito harem moments, this was actually an interesting episode. For the first time in this season I was legit into what was happening on the screen and nothing absurd happend for me to roll my eyes. Maybe this arc can have a decent ending |
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| I'm just want to say that... Asuna really3 BEAUTIFUL with the goddess Stacia attire.. Especially with the ribbon-like tied on her hair... Now I'm know Asuna still my waifu since this series start, 2012 back then... |
Farabeuf said: Nemesis16 said: There's no "freaking triangle". Alice and Asuna are the only ones relevant characters. Those 4 characters weren't there because they love him, Ronye was there because she was his kouhai and Liena because she's his senpai, along Alice who he knew there. Those were the three people along Eugeo who's dead that Kirito mostly connected in the underworld and it was to show their connection with him. That's the literal intention of the scene but amazingly, most people can't interpret this and just throw terms like harem here and there. Which I'll repeat, none of those characters outside of Asuna and Alice have romantic feelings for Kirito. Every Kirito would love Asuna A harem in anime or manga setting doesn't necessarily need a romantic relationship to be such. The presence of a character with lots of people of the opposite sex around them is enough. You should document yourself more and fanboy less. No one said romantic relationship, I said romantic feelings. They can't exactly have romantic relationship when Kirito loves Asuna and is dating her for over a year. And I know very well what is a harem and it's not just presence of girls that makes it one. It's having more than a love triangle, so more than two romantic interests. |
brzzcodeDec 16, 2019 1:05 PM
And you come to me saying that you read the light novel. If you have actually read it, you would know that this scene was completely badly adapted as Alice wasn't described in that position at all in trying to kiss him since she never thought on doing that, and all of her intentions were to use her incarnation to try to wake him up when she approached him. You're just being completely disingenuous, and your posts about this series just shows it all the time, even more with this "rape/sexual assault" bullshit that you just said now. It's just trolling at this point. |
brzzcodeDec 16, 2019 1:16 PM
mizukasa said: Casting a land alteration skill can cause your fluctlight to overload resulting to a headache... How does that even work when it's the system's job to handle the player's commands and not their brain (or soul)? Hm, I'm happy that they put a restraint on Asuna's OP skill but did they also forgot it's a supercomputer that's handling the entire environment of Underworld? It's like the director decided to put it that way because he doesn't want Asuna to abuse the skill and ending the battle in one go without thrill. I'll just pretend there's nothing stupid behind it. The new harem members are pretty annoying as well. I prefer it if Alice could be with Eugeo instead and the other 2 girls Liena and the other one who almost got raped can disappear for all I care. Why is Asuna even giving other girls a chance to possibly steal Kirito away, I mean he wouldn't but still, she doesn't seem to mind it even if Kirito cheats on her. The director? What? Those aren't things that a director do. About Asuna, just look for this video, it'll explain to you with the content of the light novel which the anime skipped or made much smaller. I don't want to write a ton of things and having to look for the citations on the LN so watch it, it's faster either way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKUzeBVR_SE About the "harem". Asuna isn't caring because there's nothing there to care, even more when she's his girlfriend and Kirito loves her. Alice don't love Kirito unlike the anime makes many think, neither do Liena or Ronie. All of those are only there because they are the characters that had more contact with Kirito in the underworld, which Eugeo would be there if he was still alive. This reunion is just for them to share information about real world and underworld. |
| It's kinda cute episode. Alice and Asuna fighting over Kirito. lol. Kirito is so popular even he doesn't notice that. I'm looking forward to watching the next episode =) |
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| Probably my favourite season so far (since early season 1). I really like the dark, uncensored way they're handling the action and the thematic concerns - it's where SAO thrives. |
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Nemesis16 said: And you come to me saying that you read the light novel. If you have actually read it, you would know that this scene was completely badly adapted as Alice wasn't described in that position at all in trying to kiss him since she never thought on doing that, and all of her intentions were to use her incarnation to try to wake him up when she approached him. You're just being completely disingenuous, and your posts about this series just shows it all the time, even more with this "rape/sexual assault" bullshit that you just said now. It's just trolling at this point. "You must be fun at parties" (again) |
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Nemesis16 said: mizukasa said: Casting a land alteration skill can cause your fluctlight to overload resulting to a headache... How does that even work when it's the system's job to handle the player's commands and not their brain (or soul)? Hm, I'm happy that they put a restraint on Asuna's OP skill but did they also forgot it's a supercomputer that's handling the entire environment of Underworld? It's like the director decided to put it that way because he doesn't want Asuna to abuse the skill and ending the battle in one go without thrill. I'll just pretend there's nothing stupid behind it. The new harem members are pretty annoying as well. I prefer it if Alice could be with Eugeo instead and the other 2 girls Liena and the other one who almost got raped can disappear for all I care. Why is Asuna even giving other girls a chance to possibly steal Kirito away, I mean he wouldn't but still, she doesn't seem to mind it even if Kirito cheats on her. The director? What? Those aren't things that a director do. About Asuna, just look for this video, it'll explain to you with the content of the light novel which the anime skipped or made much smaller. I don't want to write a ton of things and having to look for the citations on the LN so watch it, it's faster either way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKUzeBVR_SE About the "harem". Asuna isn't caring because there's nothing there to care, even more when she's his girlfriend and Kirito loves her. Alice don't love Kirito unlike the anime makes many think, neither do Liena or Ronie. All of those are only there because they are the characters that had more contact with Kirito in the underworld, which Eugeo would be there if he was still alive. This reunion is just for them to share information about real world and underworld. The director, the writer, or the LN's author or whoever it was who decided to put it out like that. But whoever it was doesn't matter, that isn't the point; it was still a stupid reasoning. I know it isn't possible to adapt everything in the light novel but the anime could've come up with a better reasoning since not everyone here is willing to read the novel and just came to watch the anime. So it (the anime) has to be informative enough on its own without being illogical and the audience be satisfied with the information provided without being forced to check what happened in the novel. I won't buy into the reasoning "read the LN since the anime skipped some info." that some fans peddles to justify the anime's shortcomings. Before you misunderstand, I'm criticizing the anime not the light novel. If you've read the LN I guess I'll trust you with that for now. I still think there's a chance for them to fall for him though, this might just be the start. |
mizukasaDec 17, 2019 9:16 AM
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| This season is fantastic so far the animation staff have worked really hard this season and i appreciate it.... |
Superns18 said: Alice Stans, we here: https://imgur.com/a/QQVh58d It’s here. Finally. I’ve waited YEARS to see most of the scenes in this episode animated and was not disappointed at all. What an episode, seeing Alice and Asuna duke it out, the two getting jealous, everyone coming forward with their feelings about Kirito, phew. A-1 have spared no expense this season and have reached unlimited budget works level of sexiness. Begs the question, what does it take to push it over an 8 on MAL? The number of 5 and below reviews are shocking. If you don't like SAO at this point, you never will, just give up the hating, lol. What a week for SAO. Kirito tops top male characters of the decade list from NewType, volume 23 drops, SAO it’s top of AnimeTrending list, whew. The hate circle-jerk against SAO seems to be dying or at least getting pushback. Alicization is exploding. +++++++++1 The most unjustified hated anime of all times |
3C-273 said: Asuna VS Alice was so precious and adorable It seems a lot of people hate the harem, I agree it was forced, but it feels like they put it in there more for the inside joke "welcome to the harem!" rather than just throwing a harem moment in there just for the sake of harems so I feel like it was a nice giggle after all the 'very serious talk about serious things' in the rest of the episode. I'm not mad at it. Well said...that's exactly what i feel I hoped more people felt it that way too but apparently it's not unfortunatelly.... |
| Finally the harem is back! |
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| Alice and Asuna fighting over Kirito was hilarious lol. She really beautiful with the goddess Stacia attire. code 871? A mole inside RATH? Niceee. |
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Comander-07 said: I really liked Asuna meeting Kirito but the harem part is trash. Agreed, harem posturing in this episode was cringe. |
Nurguburu said: code 871? A mole inside RATH? Niceee. That subplot has potential to be a great dectetive case. Since Asuna is innocent and the Kayaba's girl just arrived later, we have a 50% chance to discover the right suspect! |
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