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| This actually might enter on my top 3 shows from this year. No joke, this is extremelly good |
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| The convoluting mystery of Ai Magase, including her past and all, much from being a womaniser at face value, is still far from a puzzle piece needed to close this case. And Seizaki is frustrated more than ever, not yet convinced about her, and everything. On the side of family things, more than family conflict, the estranged uncle of hers revealed a story of massive proportions, but the core is always TOXICATING MENTALISM. And I certainly don't expect to understand the heart from the mindgames. But it's even scarier to be caged by a bird, much less being a free spirit. Seduction is always women's powerful intuition and source, but in the case of Ai Magase, a LETHAL WEAPON. The race to find a culprit (or MOREOVER) a scapegoat, from the controversial mayor that is Itsuki, has led Seizaki to Ai herself. That ending where another of the investigation team got killed in action, that was absolutely shuddering. Once again, the ultimate intimately antagonist of a woman got her 2nd kill while Seizaki is still reeling on another issue. I don't know about you, but this just keeps getting better. |
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| I personally find Magase really terrifying... it's characters that are quietly evil and completely emotionless that are the most frightening and she embodies all that and more. It's even worse because she can't be stopped; she hasn't actually done anything wrong! |
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| Welp, I watched half the episode, then decided to just give up on the series. That doctor scene was just too much casual sexism for me to handle, and it looks like it's just going to get worse... So a teenage girl is so charming and hawt that everyone wants to bang her, and the logical conclusion is: it's her fault for making them feel that way? She's just poisonous and needs therapy? It's when I see stuff like that in anime that I feel very glad I don't live in Japan... |
| Good episode, glad to see more of the assistant woman's personality. Animation and directing were solid. First half especially reminded me of Garden of Sinners. I like where the show's going, but I do hope it doesn't get too caught up in its own themes and symbolism (albeit that probably is due in part to it being adapted from a light novel). Ai is really interesting though, her speech at the end was really effective, I mean I know it's not rare for a villain to see themselves as the hero, but the execution was still good. I'm not overly worried about the writing and story, but I do hope the level at which it's written matches the level of the themes, if that makes sense. Anyway, regardless of where it's going to end up, I think this is certainly the most interesting and intriguing anime of the season imo. |
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ziad1419 said: RedJeanne said: Welp, I watched half the episode, then decided to just give up on the series. That doctor scene was just too much casual sexism for me to handle, and it looks like it's just going to get worse... So a teenage girl is so charming and hawt that everyone wants to bang her, and the logical conclusion is: it's her fault for making them feel that way? She's just poisonous and needs therapy? It's when I see stuff like that in anime that I feel very glad I don't live in Japan... What ?? You should watch full episode to know why magase do this I don't know, the whole "I got horny, it must have been her fault" thing really pissed me off... It reminded me way too much of guys saying "if you're wearing those clothes, you're just asking for it" So yeah, didn't see the whole thing, but just from the doctor's story, we're just one step away from full on rape culture |
| I dunno doc, Ai's magic rape power is probably all in your head...ascribing an intent to seduce as a passive effect sounds a little dangerously close to the reason why women are supposed to wear burqas. I was expecting an incident more like something Erika Furudo, the self-proclaimed intellectual rapist, would do - that is, find everyone's psychological weak point and needle them like she does in episode 2. I can accept that Magase has Speech 100 and maxed Charisma and write off the doc as unreliable narrator for the time being. the arrow nudges a little closer to "trainwreck" on the meter It's probably hard to make it legally stick that Itsuki abetted suicide even though there's a good case to make for it, namely the 64 people killed themselves to commemorate the law. Magase: "do you play RPGs?"  And Truck-kun isekai's another one. |
Pruhtus said: Pretty obvious that the Assistant girl will die at some point. Really? To me, the obvious thing is that the assistant girl is actually the psycho girl. Because before the assistant, we'd only seen one woman in the entire series, and they established she can look like anyone, so the conclusion's pretty obvious. If they do that reveal later and play it like it's a shocking surprise, I'll point at my screen and laugh. |
| I really hope Magase doesn't end up having supernatural powers or something. I don't think they'll go that route, but I can't shake that feeling. |
glassknuckles said: And Truck-kun isekai's another one. She's definitely leveled up her summoning abilities. |
glassknuckles said: I dunno doc, Ai's magic rape power is probably all in your head...ascribing an intent to seduce as a passive effect sounds a little dangerously close to the reason why women are supposed to wear burqas. I was expecting an incident more like something Erika Furudo, the self-proclaimed intellectual rapist, would do - that is, find everyone's psychological weak point and needle them like she does in episode 2. I can accept that Magase has Speech 100 and maxed Charisma and write off the doc as unreliable narrator for the time being. She's certainly improved her speech skill since that time, but I doubt it's just in his head. It seems to be less a passive effect and more a calculated use of body language to send signals to her victim's subconsciousness. |
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| Police: You're under arrest! Rapist: But I was the one that was RAPED! Police: aww shit man you to? |
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| Stepping on Ai Magase's heels has unfortunate consequences. Especially given her mysterious past, a glance into which felt unreal. |
kater_tot said: I personally find Magase really terrifying... it's characters that are quietly evil and completely emotionless that are the most frightening and she embodies all that and more. It's even worse because she can't be stopped; she hasn't actually done anything wrong! She reminds me of Tomie in a lot of ways. Evil and able to suduce people without really doing anything |
| Ok Seizaki, its time to stop sending lackeys after her.lol |
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duowolf said: kater_tot said: I personally find Magase really terrifying... it's characters that are quietly evil and completely emotionless that are the most frightening and she embodies all that and more. It's even worse because she can't be stopped; she hasn't actually done anything wrong! She reminds me of Tomie in a lot of ways. Evil and able to suduce people without really doing anything Omg you're so right! *shivers* |
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| So, I was wrong about the Assistant lol. Ai is such a bitch lol. |
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| Ai Magase is Johan Liebert as an incubus. Whereas Johan intrigued me, Ai just disgusts me completely. At this point there's no possible logical answer for why she is the way she is, because this show is definitely going beyond the bounds of the believable. I'm curious about her past and psychology, but I mostly just want her to burn. |
RedJeanne said: I don't know, the whole "I got horny, it must have been her fault" thing really pissed me off... It reminded me way too much of guys saying "if you're wearing those clothes, you're just asking for it" So yeah, didn't see the whole thing, but just from the doctor's story, we're just one step away from full on rape culture Omg, THANK YOU. I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that way. I didn't know how to put it into words exactly but you did perfectly. This show started off interesting but if it's just gunna turn into a "women being too sexy makes men unable to control themselves and commit suicide" kinda deal then...blah. Also the part with all those students saying she raped them when she didn't even do anything except EXISR, like..what? I'm so confused. Is this show trying to just trivialize rape accusations or something? I'm probably gunna finish it cause I don't like dropping shows but after this episode I just don't know what to think anymore. |
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| Well, what to expect from a show that goes after religious imagery and tries to paint one character as the charismatic antichrist and another as the whore of Babylon in a series literally called Babylon? Infinite IQ takes. |
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Talim said: RedJeanne said: I don't know, the whole "I got horny, it must have been her fault" thing really pissed me off... It reminded me way too much of guys saying "if you're wearing those clothes, you're just asking for it" So yeah, didn't see the whole thing, but just from the doctor's story, we're just one step away from full on rape culture Omg, THANK YOU. I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that way. I didn't know how to put it into words exactly but you did perfectly. This show started off interesting but if it's just gunna turn into a "women being too sexy makes men unable to control themselves and commit suicide" kinda deal then...blah. Also the part with all those students saying she raped them when she didn't even do anything except EXISR, like..what? I'm so confused. Is this show trying to just trivialize rape accusations or something? I'm probably gunna finish it cause I don't like dropping shows but after this episode I just don't know what to think anymore. Yay, thanks for saying that, I thought I was the only one seeing it that way xD I'm scared it's going to turn into exactly what you're describing, that's why I stopped watching... Let me know if we were wrong I guess? |
| I know people compare Magase to Johan Liebert but I liked Johan and I think he's a better evil protagonist than Ai. It's hard to explain, I'm not very good at conveying into words how I feel but Johan Liebert is more well-written. I'm not saying Magase Ai is a bad character, she's a great villain and definitely evil. However, with Johan, I still liked him despite him being the antagonist, with Magase Ai, I can't seem to like her. She's a master manipulator and all but if she happens to die, I wouldn't care. I still don't know much about her background to care enough for her. I guess my stupid theory of Magase Ai perhaps being a man crossdressing as a woman went out the window. I don't even know why I thought that. Perhaps because they made an emphasis on the word "female" in the first few episodes like she desperately wanted to become a woman. |
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RedJeanne said: Talim said: Omg, THANK YOU. I'm glad I'm not the only one who felt that way. I didn't know how to put it into words exactly but you did perfectly. This show started off interesting but if it's just gunna turn into a "women being too sexy makes men unable to control themselves and commit suicide" kinda deal then...blah. Also the part with all those students saying she raped them when she didn't even do anything except EXISR, like..what? I'm so confused. Is this show trying to just trivialize rape accusations or something? I'm probably gunna finish it cause I don't like dropping shows but after this episode I just don't know what to think anymore. Yay, thanks for saying that, I thought I was the only one seeing it that way xD I'm scared it's going to turn into exactly what you're describing, that's why I stopped watching... Let me know if we were wrong I guess? For sure, I definitely will. I really hope it improves but I don't have super high hopes anymore unfortunately. T.T |
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| This was written by the author of Kado. Expect things to get worse (from a writing standpoint) |
Ilovebeanbag said: I'm addressing those that shit on the show when clearly this was the set up since the beginning. It's even on the name of the show.Kosmonaut said: Well, what to expect from a show that goes after religious imagery and tries to paint one character as the charismatic antichrist and another as the whore of Babylon in a series literally called Babylon? Infinite IQ takes. What? Are you praising it or dumping it? I don't get you. As for me, I'm neither praising nor shitting on the show, this is exactly what I expected would happen. |
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Ilovebeanbag said: Talim said: For sure, I definitely will. I really hope it improves but I don't have super high hopes anymore unfortunately. T.T What are you saying!? The show is not saying that hot women are responsible. How did you get the entire premise wrong? Ok even if that's the case, how would you feel if a man is using women the same way Magase is doing? This is just double standard. The show clearly tells in episode 5 that Magase consciously persuaded these men to commit suicide. Forcing somebody to commit suicide is a crime regardless of gender! When did this ever become what you are describing it to be? If a woman had told the same story as the doctor about a man that made her want to bang him, therefore the man must be responsible, I would have been just as angry and I would also have dropped the show. Like I said, I haven't watched the whole episode, and I'm sure she does awful things, but just from the doctor's perspective, his whole story is "I wanted to fuck her, she must have done something to me, it's not my fault". And the show presents it like he's right. That's what made me angry, and made me stop watching. |
| Magase is a female Johan (from Monster). |
| The uncle's story makes me think that Magase's presence affect people differently, because we've seen many form of Magase Ai and she's always looks like an ordinary woman, at least before she start speaking and mind-fuck you. |
| This episode felt weird. Magase characterization is irksome, at times. She (sort of) reminds me of Light Yagami, in how she wants 'purify' the world with her misplaced ideals. Her mannerisms, however, are bit more extreme than Light. Also, her speech about being an Isekai 'hero' was just out of place. |
RedJeanne said: Welp, I watched half the episode, then decided to just give up on the series. That doctor scene was just too much casual sexism for me to handle, and it looks like it's just going to get worse... So a teenage girl is so charming and hawt that everyone wants to bang her, and the logical conclusion is: it's her fault for making them feel that way? She's just poisonous and needs therapy? It's when I see stuff like that in anime that I feel very glad I don't live in Japan... I felt the same vibe as you, but I'm giving a benefit of a doubt and they also understand this as her uncle said "she had difficulty talking to people" and "therapy was just an excuse to see her more often", most likely they are building some sympathetic aspect to her like "she was treated as object so she started to treat others as objects" not something worth redemption in the end but making her more understandable. Or they will made here just evil. |
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| Ai Magase wants to be an isekai protagonist and at the same uses truck-kun to isekai the investigator xD Still AOTS so far for me. Great episode. |
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| That doctor scene turned this into ok boomer: the anime real quick lmao. I expected to find people here who interpreted that as blatant rape culture, but there was a heavy implication there's more going on here than "Magase is hot and makes me want to fuck" -- that there's some sort of manipulation of hypnosis at work on Magase's part. But until Magase is actually convicted of something, I'm granting her character a pass. I definitely get the Johan vibes, though. |
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RedJeanne said: I don't know, the whole "I got horny, it must have been her fault" thing really pissed me off... It reminded me way too much of guys saying "if you're wearing those clothes, you're just asking for it" So yeah, didn't see the whole thing, but just from the doctor's story, we're just one step away from full on rape culture Yah. This episode was terrible (to me). This show would fail the Bechdel test. They made the villain a woman, so ofc she has supernatural sexual powers. And then they blame her for their emotions. We cant have an evil female character without making sex her weapon. Wtf. Yes, there’s Hiasa Sekuro, but she’s the only woman in a room full of men. Sigh. |
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