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| <strong>THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.</strong><br />---------------------------------------- <br /><br />final episode! hope there's season two because there were more questions to be answered... especially why did he kill the old man at the end... |
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| I enjoyed the series. Not one of BONES best, but still a decent show. The ending definetly left room for a sequel. |
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| Who's the father of kiriko baby? Hayato??? They had never a relationship. |
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shinjikasuka said: Who's the father of kiriko baby? Hayato??? They had never a relationship. ya i was wondering that too. what the heck is this black vision. |
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| Apparently the series itself is a semi prequel see [ulr=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skull_Man#Anime] here [/url]. Black Vision stuff teis more in to the original works. |
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| Well...that was certainly an interesting ending to this season, as there obviously has to be a second season. MasterChief said: there were more questions to be answered... especially why did he kill the old man at the end... Looking forward to it, had that good dark mysterious side that was very entertaining |
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shinjikasuka said: Who's the father of kiriko baby? Hayato??? They had never a relationship. I'm pretty sure the kid was conceived in episode ten- they shared the tent together after Hayato's "I am myself" comment. Though you're right, there sure wasn't much of a "relationship" per say before that. |
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TheBastid said: Finally finished this series.... As to why Hayato killed the old man....it was obvious Hayato turned evil and the old man knew too much, and was dangerous. If you wait after the ED....you will see Hayato turn completely evil.....easily my favorite scene of the entire series well as the former skull man said to him "to defeat evil, one must be of greater evil" as so he said... also is the anime Cyborg009 related to this, coz i see skull man as the evil villain (skull) in the anime, i dunno, it kinda get's me connected to it.. |
tounoyaboysSep 20, 2008 8:22 AM
| WTF with the last episode?! It looked like ordinary, cheap production! Okey.. 1..2..3.. I'm angry, very. Well i didn't watched its till very end, but last minutes saved The skull man from being taged with only 4 or 5 points. |
| He turned evil because like he said that he will reborn.He left his own personality to become completely the Skull Man.This is the way I understood this. |
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| The serie was opk, but nothing more than that. The best thing is norio wakamoto at the end of the this last episode xD |
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| WTF kind of non-ending was that? |
Alas86Aug 15, 2009 6:57 AM
D4wGhosty said: Yes there was the shot of kiriko comes out of the tent holding a cover over her naked body, meaning hayatao hit dat He totally did. Aww yeah. |
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| There's no need on sequel. Sequel will just ruin the nice ending. |
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| Cyborg 009 is related? Hmmm I wonder if we get A Dark Vader moment. "I am your father"! |
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| This episode made this anime awesome, for a while there I was thinking of giving it a 6 but thanks to the ending I'm giving it an 8. I always love it when the good guy turns evil. |
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missdeep said: And where is this scene? I've scrolled through the entire tenth episode and didn't find this shot anywhere. So, did he really hit dat?D4wGhosty said: Yes there was the shot of kiriko comes out of the tent holding a cover over her naked body, meaning hayatao hit dat He totally did. Aww yeah. |
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| Tbh, one thing that confuses me near the ending scene is why his mask turned from white to black randomly. Rather, it's not random but just seemed to be a lack of reason I've yet to discover. Well, this series is underrated that's for sure. But ultimately, it's 6/10 for me. I liked some of the themes presented but wasn't just feeling too well for the characters, except the title character - Skull man. |
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| How confusing it got.. Oh well, it was enjoyable to watch. episode- 4/5. series- likely between a 5 and 7. |
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| Pretty decent ending, quite some awesome action and well in the end everything was pretty sad, it's a sad ending... pumped with action but still pretty sad as everyone died especially combined with that song in the end it sure made up for a good ending! The epilogue was interesting, what I especially found interesting was that Kiriko was holding a baby, it must be hers and Yoshio right? Or well that what they're implying. I did found that ending quite interesting, is he alive or not who knows? A good ending in general. In the end I quite liked this series although some parts did bother me quite a lot but well it was still rather enjoyable! 6/10 |
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| I am still dont understand why that mask turn become stone after hayato death???? and why people of the city turn into monster too ?????? |
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| Not one of BONES best but it was alright. I was quite happy with the end until the mask turned to stone and the epilogue of Hayato turning evil. I mean it just raises more questions on top of the questions yet to be answered. Like whats the process of turning people into monsters? Or what's the deal with all these organizations clashing? The biggest question of all is what is the connection with the monsters and the mask? There's just so much back story to be covered that wasn't. A lot is left to the imagination with little to go on, so yeah. Not bad but not one of their greatest. |
LordLagann said: Not one of BONES best but it was alright. I was quite happy with the end until the mask turned to stone and the epilogue of Hayato turning evil. I mean it just raises more questions on top of the questions yet to be answered. Like whats the process of turning people into monsters? Or what's the deal with all these organizations clashing? The biggest question of all is what is the connection with the monsters and the mask? There's just so much back story to be covered that wasn't. A lot is left to the imagination with little to go on, so yeah. Not bad but not one of their greatest. See, you get it. |
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| Having known this was a prequel to Cyborg 009 made it a little easier to understand. The ending was pretty great and out of the ordinary. Though I think Hayato's character progression from Good Guy to Bad Guy had no buildup and was pretty much an Instant change which is unfortunate. But for a few lines of dialogue from Yoshio it'd be even more confusing. I find it funny that alot were confused on the origin of the baby. I totally realized how it came to be immediately from the tent scene. Overall this was a good series but it certainly could of done with explaining a few more things. |
blaizevincent said: Overall this was a good series but it certainly could of done with explaining a few more things. Yea,i'm kinda confused about some things but... Not bad after all. |
| What a great ending. I agree with you all in that many things could have been made clearer but what a sweet tie in with cyborg 009....he turned evil in the end, it was really him....wow. Would have liked hayatos final words related to talk of his soul right before skull man consumes him. And I wanna see what makes skull man so evil now that hes been fully reborn...I want(...ed?) more. I watched a good amount of cyborg 009 in the early 00s during the toonami era but I dont remember it being overtly dark...might go back. Damn I love when a narrative comes together. |
| The last ep had quite a few confusing things about it... Like, why did Maya call the Skull Man "brother"? Doesn't that make Hayato or Yoshio (depending on whether she realized that the person wearing the mask changed) another illegitimate son of Kuroshio Gouzo? What about Kagura Tatsuo then? This all is very confusing. I wish they didn't skip out of explanations so much. Also, the penchant to just throw important changes on your viewers abruptly and without any buildup is annoying as hell. First, there was that stupid Hayato/Kiriko tent scene (I mean, till then he didn't show even the slightest bit of interest in her in that way, plus the woman he loved, Nami, has just died, and then, all of a sudden, he's abruptly tapping that girl who looks more like his little brother than anything? that just doesn't make sense). And of course, Hayato abruptly turning evil. Was it because the mask consumed him? Was it the reason it turned black? All we can is just guess as nothing is confirmed and this is so damn annoying. Overall, 7/10. Wanted to give it 6/10 because of all those unanswred questions but I'm feeling generous atm. |
| ったく、嫌な世の中だよ。 |
| Well, the bombastic last episodes seemed a bit too "clashing" with the slow atmospherical main chunk of the series but everything wrapped up nicely together (and with something else from Ishinomori, surprisingly). Too bad the technical department went a bit down for this last episode. I really don't understand all the questions above and the "obligatory need" for a continuation, with all those hints toward Cyborg009. 4/5 Classic "old" mix of mysterious avenger, scientific conspiration, and occultism for a well thought-out hommage to Ishinomori with a nice 2000s late-night "mature" varnish. The music is discrete but it is an advantage to set this kind of atmosphere. Design-wise, it succeeds to have a certain "old" look while smelling modern enough. I was expecting KamenRider and got Cyborg009 links instead. Funny. Score: 7/10 Special mention for the horribly litteral translation from english that the french "kyokai-fansub" delivered. ==== October 14, 2019 @lihle808 If I remember well, the show insists on showing the hero and the young journalist passing a night together not long before its conclusion. The hairs colour is also pointing at that. The clear intention was to set up Joe (the baby and also future Cyborg009 main hero) and the Black Hand's boss as tragical "robotized" father/son ennemies in their future conflict. October 15, 2019 That's the fireplace scene I received as such. I can't give you the episode reference though, as I only saw the show once during the last Christmas vacations). ==== February 22, 2021 @FMmatron Yes, I had no problem with this scifi fantasy aspect, but the total overthrow of the "balance" was a bit disconcerting. Glad you appreciated it. |
Rei_IIIFeb 22, 2022 6:45 AM
| That was a good ending. I'm glad Reina survived, and it seems like she is Shinjou's assistant too. But mostly what was more surprising was Hayato's true identity, that he Tatsuo all along. It kinda does make sense a bit, and I think that mask opened up his memories. I think he was involved in the war, and those memories he saw were his instead of Kanzaki. Maya did call him her brother before killing her, and it also explains why Maya's father was so attached to Hayato so much and protected him. It must've been some force of a bond between father and son. I think the mask displayed his dark side and that is why he decided to kill Kyouichirou, I think it's because he knew his true identity and wanted to erase any trail. As for the baby held by Kiriko, I doubt that is hers. I think Nami was the one that left the baby, if you recall she did mention it to Hayato, and the woman that she worked for was the one that took it out her hands at the end. It wouldn't make sense for her to have a baby out of the blue, and I doubt they had intercourse. The shown would've hinted something, or else I'm wrong it was just a piece of shit of a show, I hope not. Animation was good, along with the visual style. The op was amazing, the plot had some minor glitches that would extend this already long post, so I won't mention some of them. But it was a good show nonetheless. It only needed a sharp studio and a 2cour segment, that's all to explain thing properly. It was rushed and certainly didn't care about viewers. 6/10. |
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Rei_III said: I see.Well, the bombastic last episodes seemed a bit too "clashing" with the slow atmospherical main chunk of the series but everything wrapped up nicely together (and with something else from Ishinomori, surprisingly). Too bad the technical department went a bit down for this last episode. I really don't understand all the questions above and the "obligatory need" for a continuation, with all those hints toward Cyborg009. 4/5 Classic "old" mix of mysterious avenger, scientific conspiration, and occultism for a well thought-out hommage to Ishinomori with a nice 2000s late-night "mature" varnish. The music is discrete but it is an advantage to set this kind of atmosphere. Design-wise, it succeeds to have a certain "old" look while smelling modern enough. I was expecting KamenRider and got Cyborg009 links instead. Funny. Score: 7/10 Special mention for the horribly litteral translation from english that the french "kyokai-fansub" delivered. ==== @lihle808 If I remember well, the show insists on showing the hero and the young journalist passing a night together not long before its conclusion. The hairs colour is also pointing at that. The clear intention was to set up Joe (the baby and also future Cyborg009 main hero) and the Black Hand's boss as tragical "robotized" father/son ennemies in their future conflict. Your point does makes sense. But the show was so vague about it that I missed it. But which ep is it, ep 10? Because from 11 onwards things get intense. Was it the fireplace scene or before then? If it's before then, it doesn't make sense since she was injured from the ep 09 incident. Still I think your point makes sense, but the show failed for me to show the interpersonal side of their encounter. I guess after all they didn't care about that stuff, and only cared as you've said about the set up for Joe. Thanks again for making things a bit clearer! |
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Rei_III said: I see.That's the fireplace scene I received as such. I can't give you the episode reference though, as I only saw the show once during the last Christmas vacations). But the show definitely did a bad job to depict the nature of that scene. It came off as being an ass pull to some of us. But i will take your fact. Thanks again for taking your time. |
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Rei_III said: Well, the bombastic last episodes seemed a bit too "clashing" with the slow atmospherical main chunk of the series but everything wrapped up nicely together (and with something else from Ishinomori, surprisingly). Too bad the technical department went a bit down for this last episode. Well, the series already established some sci-fi mutant people ala X-Men. But yeah, things escalated a bit. I do liked it, though. Hayato becoming the Skull Man and the prequel connection to Cyborg 009 were nice twists. So preexisting expectations were subverted in a positive way. |
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| This series is full of nonsense and plot holes, tries to run only on atmosphere alone. It did have a intriguing in first half, but overall still not worth it because, second half didnot explain anything instead pull out random stupid plot point out of their ass. Non of it make sence. I expect it to atleast end decently, but that also was too much to ask. I guess the makers never cared about the plot as long as they can somehow kill a lot of character to provide gratification. Well, atleast I guess we know why Kiriko was sleeping naked previously in mountain. But that only made my opinion about the series worser. Tbh i should have expected this when i saw the that cheap cgi live action prequal which also didnot make any sense. |
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