| If I had to choose one, then it would be the 2010s. Kanye West - My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy Kendrick Lamar - To Pimp a Butterfly Danny Brown - Atrocity Exhibition Death Grips - The Money Store |
| 2000's or 2010's Pretty much the only eras of rap I've actively listened to, though not in the early 2000's. Sure, I've listened to some 'classics' and enjoyed them, but it's a completely different experience than being there/actively listening during that time. I've even enjoyed these past few years in the genre, despite the flack it's been getting. |
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| "Mumble" rap era for me, never really listened to it before but I got into rap two years ago or so. |
| Probably late 90s and early 2000s, although I listen to stuff from all eras and think they all have specific qualities that make me like them in different ways. |
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| Best era of rap is the rap era right now. Lot of variance in artists and a lot of advancement in production really make artists stand out (Kanye, Travis Scott, etc) Without modern synths, pre 2000s rap all have that same "old" sound to it which gets pretty grating (especially bling era which in retrospect is cringy af) |
| 2010s all the way bruh. 2018 finna be the best year for hip hop |
HopefulNihilist said: SuperMatt said: Probably late 90s and early 2000s, although I listen to stuff from all eras and think they all have specific qualities that make me like them in different ways. I'm very curious. Could you please explain what specific qualities each era has? If I were to describe the specific qualities of each era, this is what I'd say: 1980s: when rap was the cleanest, friendliest, most substance. 1990s: still substance, but much more gangster focused and aggressive. 2010s: the obnoxious era with all the mumble rapping and nasal voices, but varies more in subject matter. xxdarkknightxx12 said: Best era of rap is the rap era right now. Lot of variance in artists and a lot of advancement in production really make artists stand out (Kanye, Travis Scott, etc) Without modern synths, pre 2000s rap all have that same "old" sound to it which gets pretty grating (especially bling era which in retrospect is cringy af) Interesting. I have the opposite opinion. I listen to lots of 90s rap and a good amount of modern rap, and 90s rap sounds far more distinct to me in terms of beats. The beats today sound very low key and kinda samey to me. I mean rap today is pretty diluted with all the trap rappers biting off the same sound. I just meant in general, a lot of artists have more freedom with their production than before (although that's mostly is shown through niche, less mainstream artists) Albums like MBDTF/Atrocity Exhibition/Saturation really show how production can be on par with lyricism in terms of entertaining music |
| 90's was the golden era of rap. 2Pac Geto Boys Wu-Tang Ice Cube Nas Bone Thugs etc. |
| The 90s were undeniably the best though this decade's pretty excellent too. Kendrick, Death Grips et al. |
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HopefulNihilist said: Interesting. I have the opposite opinion. I listen to lots of 90s rap and a good amount of modern rap, and 90s rap sounds far more distinct to me in terms of beats. The beats today sound very low key and kinda samey to me. You're basing your opinion off of generic trap and Soundcloud rappers. It's a fact that hip hop right now is the most diverse it's ever been. There are a ton of subgenres and there's everything for everyone if you care to look. For example: Travis Scott, Denzel Curry, Joey Badass, Young Thug, Juice Wrld, Sheck Wes etc. are all new gen rappers and they sound nothing alike. |
HopefulNihilist said: I have to listen to the same rap song at least 30+ times before I understand all the lyrics, OR I have to look up the lyrics while listening to the song at least 2 times to 100% "get" the song, so I don't really even have the TIME to look up other rappers. You're exaggerating. So what's the problem with looking up lyrics while listening? I do that for every song even if they aren't "mumbling". Every mumble rap song I've tried to listen to has the same shitty beat. Mumble rap is not a genre. I gave you a list of rappers who are very distinct from each other. You refuse my suggestions and proceed to generalize all of modern rap. Modern rappers I've listened to: J Cole, Jay Rock, Logic, Kendrick. Aside from Kendrick's stuff, I don't find the others' beats to be particularly memorable. J Cole is known for his poor beat selection (and he's been active since before 2010). Kendrick is good but I can't comment on the others since I haven't listened to them. Logic is a meme. I've still yet to find a modern rap beat that's as legendary as something like Nas's The Message. Idk what you qualify as legendary and you're probably gonna brush it off even if I do bother to suggest something. Either way, there's one thing I'm sure of based on all the modern rap beats I've listened to: none of them sound as AGGRESSIVE as 90s beats. |
| Roughly between 1996 and 2005 for me. With that said, I can go back to older rappers such as Public Enemy, Slick Rick, and other OGs who I know though osmosis and mere-exposure. And as much as I'm ambivalent towards the current era of Pump, Yachty, Uzi, 69, Drake, Travis, SoundCloud and mumbling, at least there are artists like Kendrick, Joyner and Tyler to keep me interested. |
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HopefulNihilist said: I'm very curious. Could you please explain what specific qualities each era has? Of course this is all subjective, but I'd say to me the most obvious differences between the rap eras are flow and production. Of course there are artist that can mislead you and make you think they are from a different era either because they have an old school sound, or because they were ahead of their time. But in general the flows back in the 80s and early 90s were pretty basic and repetitive (with some exceptions like Rakim and Nas, of course). To me the most interesting parts of rap in that era were the beats and the lyrics. Flows and wordplay weren't as creative and varied as they would become later on. The late 90s and early 2000s, in my opinion, were the years when artists were really becoming more creative and finding their individual sound. Flows became more complex, beats became more interesting and experimental. Rappers were letting their personality show through their music more than ever before. Nowadays I feel like rap is more varied than it's ever been. A lot of people complain about mumble rap and trap, saying that rap is dead, and these new rappers are bad just because they aren't exactly lyrical geniuses. To me, it doesn't really matter. They aren't trying to write great, insightful lyrics. And that doesn't mean their music is automatically bad. They are just trying to make fun music that sounds good, and some of them do that really well, despite having garbage lyrics. And even if you hate the fact that their lyrics are stupid, there are still new rappers writing some amazing stuff, both inside and outside of trap and mumble rap. You just have to look for it and find the stuff that you like. Also, sorry if this whole thing reads like it was written by an 8-year old. I am writing this at 3am right before going to sleep, and am pretty tired at the moment, so I hope this whole rant makes sense. |
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| 2000s was all time my favorite childhood litsener to RAP, my favorites we're Eminem, Black Eyes Peas and 50 Cent. |
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HopefulNihilist said: Several problems: 1) It defeats the purpose of listening to music. When you look up lyrics, you're focusing less on SOUND. 2) It's a pain in the ass...well, in this case, my eyes. It's just tiring. Except you're still listening, but now you can catch up on some words you might have misheard. It's never ruined my listening experience. I'm...pretty sure it is. If it's not, what the hell is it? If anything, I can't even classify mumble rap is rap. Because rap = talking. Mumbling =/= talking. First of all, rapping is rhythmic speech and delivery typically over a beat. Mumbling is speaking in a way which makes it hard to hear or understand. With that out of the way - why would someone in their right mind label themselves as a mumble rapper? It sounds derogatory and it definitely is. Have you heard anyone refer to himself as a mumble rapper? Have you seen a record label use this exact term? The only people who use "mumble rap" are the same people who criticize how terrible it supposedly is. I wrote this on another thread: Voidling said: Mumble rap isn't a thing people! It doesn't fucking exist! It's used as a derogatory term for trap rap by people (most of the posters in this thread apparently) who barely listen to it let alone know anything about OR understand what the artists are trying to achieve with it, thus making their opinion on it completely irrelevant. I don't even know how people came up with the term, barely anyone ever mumbles and even if they do there's a point to it (vivid portrayal of drug intoxication). Young Thug's mumbling complements this song completely and makes it much better: I think you're misunderstanding something: I'm not trying to argue, or even make a statement. My generalization is based on an opinion formed from MY experiences with modern rap. You made a statement about 90s rap having a more distinct sound so I offered a counter-statement. I forgot to mention Hopsin and Tyler the Creator. Hopsin is a cornball. Tyler the Creator is pretty great tho. Then you generalize my entire character based on a few interactions with you. Really? It's a logical assumption based on evidence. It definitely sounds aggressive...but it sounds a lot, LOT more obnoxious than aggressive. Like God, I think my ears were gonna bleed (also, why do people like the nasal voices?)... I completely disagree, it's not obnoxious at all. Denzel is a young critically acclaimed rapper and is probably going to be a big name in the future. He doesn't have a nasal voice lol. 90s rap beats were definitely aggressive, but they also sounded...I dunno...COOL; badass; pleasant to the ear (at least to my ear). If there's one thing I can confidently say about modern rap it sounds NOTHING like 90s rap. There are modern rappers who use an older, more traditional sound. Check out Joey Badass if you want, he almost exclusively uses boom bap production. |
HopefulNihilist said: Yeah you are still listening, but in my case, it's distracting and feels wrong. Aight. I don't care. I'm still going to call it mumble rapping. And I'm not interested in the video. Awfully ignorant of you. That was literally the only statement I had made. I don't remember you making a counter-statement here. "You're basing your opinion off of generic trap and Soundcloud rappers. It's a fact that hip hop right now is the most diverse it's ever been. There are a ton of subgenres and there's everything for everyone if you care to look. For example: Travis Scott, Denzel Curry, Joey Badass, Young Thug, Juice Wrld, Sheck Wes etc. are all new gen rappers and they sound nothing alike." What evidence? You brushing off my examples? You brushing off a song I posted to make an example? |
HopefulNihilist said: I'm not trying to come off as an asshole, but you're not a source (website/article); you're a complete stranger, online. Never claimed I was. I still made my point. You absolutely come off as an asshole - you're being very stubborn for no apparent reason. Are you willing to empathize with me here? I keep telling you: I barely have time. Aside from rap, I still haven't even checked out other genres of music properly: rock, blues, jazz, etc. Oh, and I still haven't listened to all the albums from 2pac, Biggie, Obie Trice, Hopsin, Tyler the Creator. I don't listen to music when I have nothing to do in my free time, I listen to music when I'm doing something: like jogging, playing Dueling Nexus online. I hate mumble rap (trap rap, whatever), period, so I won't listen to it. That simple. I'm sorry, but you can't expect everyone to share the same tastes as you. Calm the fuck down nigga, you asked for evidence and I gave it to you. I didn't ask for a detailed explanation on how you spend your time. I also never forced you to listen to anything, especially since you have no intention of being open minded about it. I gave you examples and have proved my point. Hating something you barely know about is questionable in itself but you do your thing. Better not waste time! You barely have any time! Poor dude having so little time... Edit: I never implied, claimed nor expected you to have the same tastes as me. Stop putting words in my mouth. Plenty of people admit that trap isn't their cup of tea, and also plenty of people sure as fuck aren't so bitter, stubborn and ignorant about it. |
VoidlingOct 1, 2018 8:57 AM
HopefulNihilist said: It's interesting you bring up flows, because to me, it's the opposite: every 90s rapper sounds incredibly distinct, whereas modern rappers like Drake and Kendrick sound almost the same with their obnoxious nasal voices. Fair enough, but I guess what I was trying to say was that back in the 80s most rappers sounded alike and had the same flow because rap was just starting and artists still hadn't figured out ways to sound different and stand out. Nowadays a lot of rappers sound alike too, not because they don't know what to do to sound different, but rather because they know it's easier to be successful if they stick to the same old formula every other rapper uses. Still, I think it's important to remember that there are exceptions in every era and every genre. There are still rappers today that use old school beats, and also rappers that focus on smart lyrics while rapping over trap beats. |
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| IMO the 90's offcourse, so many good rappers and especially the things they ryme about, crrazy some masterpieces where made that time |
| The era when xxxtentacion was still alive. I know a lot of people hate on him, but I think he was actually really unique and a breath of fresh air to the whole genre. Every new release would be something different. But I'd say 2010's has been better for rap, but the early 2000's was better for hip hop. Big krit, denzel curry, freddie gibbs, and amine are my favorite rappers currently. |
| 90s and it's not even close Prodigy Biggie Nas Tupac GZA Jay Z Eazy E list goes on today's hip hop is straight trash. makes eminem look good lol |
| 2000s because that's when Eminem made the best music. |
Gator said: 2000s because that's when Eminem made the best music. 2000s is also my favorite childhood thing because i litsened to Eninem song that when i was a kid as well. |
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| The early 2010s were fucking amazing for hip hop. The talent that was coming through during that time period was ridiculous , the 2000s had its good moments with some great artists making great albums and it had some terrible moments with the terrible Ringtone Era that came through the mid 2000s. It also helps that I was a teenager in the early 2010s so I could relate to a lot the things they were saying. |
| 90s i would say lots of great memphis rap from that era. every era has some great releases though if you are hating on any era you probably haven't listened to much rap. |
TakeCare said: The early 2010s were fucking amazing for hip hop. The talent that was coming through during that time period was ridiculous , the 2000s had its good moments with some great artists making great albums and it had some terrible moments with the terrible Ringtone Era that came through the mid 2000s. It also helps that I was a teenager in the early 2010s so I could relate to a lot the things they were saying. 2010s were terrible for hip hop 50 cent destroys every rapper whose prime was in the 2010s |
RandomChampion said: TakeCare said: The early 2010s were fucking amazing for hip hop. The talent that was coming through during that time period was ridiculous , the 2000s had its good moments with some great artists making great albums and it had some terrible moments with the terrible Ringtone Era that came through the mid 2000s. It also helps that I was a teenager in the early 2010s so I could relate to a lot the things they were saying. 2010s were terrible for hip hop 50 cent destroys every rapper whose prime was in the 2010s 50 is not better then Kendrick or Gibbs. His prime was something else though. |
RafSimons_Oct 2, 2018 12:54 PM
TakeCare said: RandomChampion said: 2010s were terrible for hip hop 50 cent destroys every rapper whose prime was in the 2010s 50 is not better not better then Kendrick or Gibbs. His prime was something else though. kendrick is trash . makes lil wayne look good |
RandomChampion said: TakeCare said: 50 is not better not better then Kendrick or Gibbs. His prime was something else though. kendrick is trash . makes lil wayne look good Both have more classics than 50 though. |
| 90's easily for me, Pac, Big, Nas, Jay, Mobb Deep and the beginning of slim Shady, just too much greatness for the others to compare. |
| 00's is a top era. But I still enjoy the 2010's. Mainstream rap is just not it but gems can be found. And of course the 90's have iconic hits. |
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lol hip hop is so watered down now. all you see nowadays is people talking about "classics" especially kendrick fans who think something can become a classic overnight. kendrick hasnt even sniffed the jocks of lackluster artists like 50 and eminem. |
RandomChampionOct 3, 2018 11:49 AM
| The boom bap and g-funk eras. |
| The 90s and early 2000s for me. Whilst I enjoy many genres of music, I have a ton of hip hop/rap from this era. |
RandomChampion said: lol hip hop is so watered down now. all you see nowadays is people talking about "classics" especially kendrick fans who think something can become a classic overnight. kendrick hasnt even sniffed the jocks of lackluster artists like 50 and eminem. TPAB and GKMC still get mentioned daily, most of his discography is critically acclaimed and he also has a Pulitzer prize. You don't bring up any points besides trashing artists for being modern. |
TakeCare said: RandomChampion said: lol hip hop is so watered down now. all you see nowadays is people talking about "classics" especially kendrick fans who think something can become a classic overnight. kendrick hasnt even sniffed the jocks of lackluster artists like 50 and eminem. TPAB and GKMC still get mentioned daily, most of his discography is critically acclaimed and he also has a Pulitzer prize. You don't bring up any points besides trashing artists for being modern. GKMC been around for six years and TAPB even less lmao I'm not trashing him for being modern. I'm trashing him because his stuff sounds like shit and full of pseudo-intellectual nonsense. lyrics and flow weak af then u got his delusional fans hyping him up based on a fukin pulitzer prize and metacritic scores this is the state of hip hop. we talkin bout pulitzer prizes now lmao |
| kendrick's accomplishment is being better than clowns like drake and migos worst hip hop era of all time |
RandomChampionOct 3, 2018 7:45 PM
| As a "metal guy" I have to say the '90's rap was the last peak. After that it's all gone downhill. |
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Timz0r said: As a "metal guy" I have to say the '90's rap was the last peak. After that it's all gone downhill. there are basically only 2 groups of people who think hip hop is at its peak now rather than in the 90s suburban kids hipsters who like to think they are "living in the moment" and experiencing the best |
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