| Fujoshis are fucking wack. Don’t be homophobic. |
SightypingJan 14, 2021 3:37 PM
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| isn't fujoshi a negative term? because if they don't want to be put into a negative light i think they should just refer to themselves as just yaoi fans. i consider people like akidearest (literal scum of the earth) fujoshi and just normal calm people who like yaoi yaoi fans. |
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| Probably has alot to do with people in general being ok with watching gay women making out but are absolutely repulsed by watching gay guys do the same. |
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Dlwuik said: isn't fujoshi a negative term? because if they don't want to be put into a negative light i think they should just refer to themselves as just yaoi fans. i consider people like akidearest (literal scum of the earth) fujoshi and just normal calm people who like yaoi yaoi fans. It was meant as a negative term (it literally translates to rotten girl), but fujoshi took it over in a way. Made it their own. Plus often times, fujoshi and fudanshi don't just refer to yaoi. With most, it also means a liking toward bishounen characters and yuri as well. |
| When I remember, I can still smell your scent, you and I are the same color perfume |
You not understanding how the community as a whole works. The community is built upon several smaller factions all of which either dislike or demonise one or more other groups based on their bias dislike of the shows that group watches leading to all out warfare  Its not that the whole community hates just one group. Its that several different groups hate one group along with lots of other ones |
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ituhata said: Probably has alot to do with people in general being ok with watching gay women making out but are absolutely repulsed by watching gay guys do the same. Probably. :/ That double standard has always annoyed me. |
| When I remember, I can still smell your scent, you and I are the same color perfume |
| The connotation came from an archetype in anime which refers to them as loud and annoying (see Hina from Oregairu). Some of the actual fujoshi probably took after this and thus, a stereotype was born. |
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| It's not a normal sexual preference to have, thus people tend to react in a disdainful way towards these ... uh weirdos? But what ever floats your boat, no one should lose sleep over you ogling at two anime males having a go at it. |
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Deknijff said: You not understanding how the community as a whole works. The community is built upon several smaller factions all of which either dislike or demonise one or more other groups based on their bias dislike of the shows that group watches leading to all out warfare Its not that the whole community hates just one group. Its that several different groups hate one group along with lots of other ones Of course there's a lot of in-fighting in the anime community. But there's a much more noticeable hatred toward fujos and fudans. (From what I've seen, at least.) Like, warring factions, if you will, will band together due to their hatred of them. It just seems a bit ridiculous, y'know? |
| When I remember, I can still smell your scent, you and I are the same color perfume |
| mayority of anime fans are male... what do you expect? |
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ZionPulse said: The connotation came from an archetype in anime which refers to them as loud and annoying (see Hina from Oregairu). Some of the actual fujoshi probably took after this and thus, a stereotype was born. Eh, I can see that being a factor. But I feel like that would apply more to Japan than the western anime community. |
| When I remember, I can still smell your scent, you and I are the same color perfume |
HotPocketRocket said: What does the western community like to do? Take after the Japanese one. ZionPulse said: The connotation came from an archetype in anime which refers to them as loud and annoying (see Hina from Oregairu). Some of the actual fujoshi probably took after this and thus, a stereotype was born. Eh, I can see that being a factor. But I feel like that would apply more to Japan than the western anime community. |
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HotPocketRocket said: One tends to take more notice of the hatred towards something one holds dear as you hold more knowledge of the subject and the wider scope of it Deknijff said: Of course there's a lot of in-fighting in the anime community. But there's a much more noticeable hatred toward fujos and fudans. (From what I've seen, at least.)You not understanding how the community as a whole works. The community is built upon several smaller factions all of which either dislike or demonise one or more other groups based on their bias dislike of the shows that group watches leading to all out warfare Its not that the whole community hates just one group. Its that several different groups hate one group along with lots of other ones Like, warring factions, if you will, will band together due to their hatred of them. It just seems a bit ridiculous, y'know? As a ecchi fan I spend most of my time around such topics and mostly only notice the hate for ecchi shows and fans of the demographic As a fujoshi fan you'll mostly be around such topics and as fan you'll very much pick up on the hate Just as @Pullman can most likely tell of several tales of him witnessing fans hating on old anime calling fans that like a certain time period nostalgia fags or elitists Your, his and my group's fandom are all the same in the grand sheme of bias hatred as with any group in the larger community. |
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| because people like to complain about sexual content and its stupid |
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| Generally I feel like people are trying to change the meaning from a person who really likes actual yaoi/gay doujins/stuff like that (to the point when the person considers it on of their fav genres, cause I don't think that just liking 2 or 3 BL manga/anime automatically makes you a fujo), to someone who likes shows with bishies or generally enjoy certain types of (non-BL) anime. I even saw arguments that apparently reverse traps are now fujobaits, for some reason. Looks like every female anime fan will be considered a fujoshi soon. When it comes to the actual fujoshis/fudanshis, I generally find them annoying and I usually avoid them if they're too cancerous, but I don't see them that often, at least not the extreme types. It's more annoying when you want to find some normal fanarts and everything is overflowing with gay porn instead, but when it comes to places like MAL forum they're pretty rare. Some people are just overly sensitive and see them everywhere, bashing them for no real reason or blaming for everything they don't like. BnHA is popular and I don't like it? Must be because of fujos. She likes shows with bishies? Must be because she's shipping dudes there. This show has a bromance and I feel uncomfortable about male-male friendship? Fujobait. Fujoshis can seriously trigger me sometimes especially when seem to be completely unable to resist shipping when 2 anime guys looked at each other or, even better, HAD A CONVERSATION, but peoeple who are seriously overreacting and call everyone a fujo for stupid reasons are even more annoying. (yay, edited this, probably managed to word my thoughts better this time, though it's still more like a random thought than a response to the question) |
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| because them push themselves way around the border, I hate them just like I hate ppl who sexualise lolis, limits my ppl |
| Maybe not fudanshi, but some fujoshis can be cancer when it comes to invade with gay ships over something. Specially when it comes to REALLY GROSS ships and ridiculous ones (mostly underage kids) |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| Because most of the people who watch anime are males. And most of them want to see girls not guys. |
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| Some fujoshis/fudanshis are airheads, but most are actually pretty chill, so I don't get the aggression towards them nor do I get why some fujoshis/fudanshis are odd. I mean, I'm weird myself, but idk some fujoshis/fudanshis are rlly unusual. |
HereticHunter said: Maybe not fudanshi, but some fujoshis can be cancer when it comes to invade with gay ships over something. Specially when it comes to REALLY GROSS ships and ridiculous ones (mostly underage kids) It's usually pretty easy to avoid gay ships for anime. (Maybe not outside of anime though. I enjoy a lot of the gay ships for VLD but it's hard to avoid them.) If it really gets that bad, you can blacklist the ship name and never really have to see it. Also, if you're talking about google image search, the results (I believe) are based on other stuff in your search history. Soooo- |
| When I remember, I can still smell your scent, you and I are the same color perfume |
| its because they are extremely obnoxious and immature, just like yuri fans. I'd rather watch utsu mutsume sayuri everyday for the rest of my life than marry a fundanshi. |
| wipes sweat I dunno, I used to be a fudanshi myself, and still have some of it, I never really got shit for it. It's probably usually because they ship characters who were not meant to be, specially when the main male character already has a romantic relationship with a female then the Fujoshi would outrage that their yaoi ships must come true. |
 𝔚𝔞𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔱𝔬𝔲𝔠𝔥 𝔶𝔬𝔲, 𝔚𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔦𝔫' 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔴𝔦𝔱𝔥 𝔞𝔩𝔩 𝔪𝔶 𝔪𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱 ______________________ |
Electik said: fujoshi are normally fangirls who see gay guys as nothing more than a fetish for them to entertain themselves on and same goes for fudanshi abt gay women. it's really awful that gay ppl get fetishised in such a way and then also have the same ppl who are doing this fetishising saying they're grossed out by gay people of the same sex as them. (as a gay woman I've seen it happen Countless times with fujoshi) it's mainly a lot of homophobia as well as insistent fangirling etc that gives them a bad name, as it should. not to say I'm fine with ppl who are too deep in ecchi either 😒 both give me the creeps lol Some fujos do that. Also, fetishizing gay anime characters/relationships is not the same as fetishizing real life gay people. I'm bi myself, so homophobia and fetishization is not something I want defend whatsoever. We need to focus on actual homophobia and not people liking gay anime and manga and stuff. The actions of the few very vocal fujos should not represent fujos in general. The same goes for any group of people that doesn't associate themselves with being hateful or negative in general. |
| When I remember, I can still smell your scent, you and I are the same color perfume |
| Oh yeah, yep, they can be REALLY be immature. This one time I saw from another site, this girl like shitted on other shows even though she hasn't watched it. Smh trash talking Jojo even though she refused to watch one episode because it looked ugly for her then implies it garbage. |
𝔚𝔞𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔱𝔬𝔲𝔠𝔥 𝔶𝔬𝔲, 𝔚𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔦𝔫' 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔴𝔦𝔱𝔥 𝔞𝔩𝔩 𝔪𝔶 𝔪𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱 ______________________ |
-Lofn- said: wipes sweat I dunno, I used to be a fudanshi myself, and still have some of it, I never really got shit for it. It's probably usually because they ship characters who were not meant to be, specially when the main male character already has a romantic relationship with a female then the Fujoshi would outrage that their yaoi ships must come true. Yeah, there were those dumbasses who harassed the TG creator after he DARED to make a straight pairing canon and other things like that. Me and a lot of others tend to ship things like that because we feel straight pairings are often forced or don't have much chemistry, so we ship the MC with another character he actually has some chemistry/an established relationship with. BUT there are many gay ships that exist just to be gay. |
| When I remember, I can still smell your scent, you and I are the same color perfume |
| Anime fans in general can be very immature at times. I don't consider that much of an argument. |
| When I remember, I can still smell your scent, you and I are the same color perfume |
| It's not about what they enjoy.Speaking for myself, I couldn't care less what delusional ships they create. It's about their attitude and how they force their views on others. |
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greymood said: I never read BL, but I did watch a lot of male sports anime and reverse harem like Brother's Conflict and Hakouki whatever you spell it. Not to mention, even shows like Maid-sama, I was gay for Usui. I also had my yaoi ships in my non-yaoi anime.They like some really garbage-level yaoi @-Lofn- didn't you say you'd never read BL before? So that's why I wanted to try BL, maybe my wish would come true ohoho |
𝔚𝔞𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔱𝔬𝔲𝔠𝔥 𝔶𝔬𝔲, 𝔚𝔞𝔫𝔱𝔦𝔫' 𝔶𝔬𝔲 𝔴𝔦𝔱𝔥 𝔞𝔩𝔩 𝔪𝔶 𝔪𝔦𝔤𝔥𝔱 ______________________ |
| Each and every fandoms are criticized by another group... Like how ecchi shows are criticized almost everyday... And I think the majority of anime fans are males + when you search the term "fujoshi". It is defined as a "rotten girl" So... what do you expect? |
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HotPocketRocket said: HereticHunter said: Maybe not fudanshi, but some fujoshis can be cancer when it comes to invade with gay ships over something. Specially when it comes to REALLY GROSS ships and ridiculous ones (mostly underage kids) It's usually pretty easy to avoid gay ships for anime. (Maybe not outside of anime though. I enjoy a lot of the gay ships for VLD but it's hard to avoid them.) If it really gets that bad, you can blacklist the ship name and never really have to see it. Also, if you're talking about google image search, the results (I believe) are based on other stuff in your search history. Soooo- Why would you assume that "my rant" is about searching images on google? lmao that's missing the point entirely. I have 2 friends of mine who likes BL Stuff, one being gay and the other one just fujoshi, they recognize some BL fans can be really toxic and gross when it comes to ship whatever they want, and it isn't just Gay Anime, as an example: Hunter x Hunter has ships for Gon and Killua (for fuck sake, they are kids) And don't get me started with the meme recommendations of Boku no Pico, its understandable that people gets mad at them because of this. As many people has said on this forum, it does happen with many things, not just BL. PD: I don't know exactly what you mean with Black List stuff. |
| "We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
| Have you seen some of the shipping wars fujoshi create? I mean, it's kinda the same with some of the diehard straight shippers, but good lord do some of these yaoi shipping get overboard. |
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| I myself am what you call a fujoshi and I have seen people generalize all fujoshi or fudanshi into people that fetishize gay men when in reality not all fujoshi or fudanshi do that. I don't even like pairing real people together I only ship fictional characters together. |
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| How do you know those silent majority |
 la critique de l'intention pure |
CrimsonResonance said: Because they feel the need to ship male characters who have 0 chemistry and are implicitly suggested in canon to be hetero. And that matters why exactly they are fictional so none of that matters at all an besides most people who ship characters do not care about a perceived sexuality. |
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| I find the whole "shipping" of characters to be a bit fucking strange regardless of wether they are gay or not. To me characters are sacred so when I see someone (other than the original creator) bend their personality to fullfill their own fetish it kind of rubs me the wrong way. That's just my 2 cents I guess. |
| I will insert Yugioh into everything and you can't fucking stop me |
| Because fujos have high double standards: - A lot of them hate female characters simply for being female while they love those feminine ukes - Sexual harassment, domestic violence and rape is very romantic apparently - They only see the good in and glorify the abuser/rapist in their ship and no matter what he does it's "not abuse", a good guy or a healthy relationship is always too boring for them - Go around calling others homophobic for not showing interest in their rapist x victim or straight boy x another boy ships - All characters are gay until proven straight, all characters are gay even after proven straight it's just that the author is either homophobic or has their hands tied and forced to write "straight" stuff by some Japanese anti-gay syndicate like NHK - A lot of them claim to only like fluff but two minutes later you'll see them drooling over some rapey fan-art or maybe even drawing it themselves. - Unlike most ecchi/hentai fans, fujo usually don't think of yaoi as a fetish but rather as pro-LGBT badge of hornor |
| Eh because they are fujoshi and fudanshi, i mean ... what's, whats like whats the point of your question OP ? What are you asking here ? Also, you know man, just a tip, it's not always all about making threads you know, give it a time. Don't make one after another, give it some space you know. |
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| I have a gay fetish. I have gotten hyped up by just about anything like that... There was a time 15 year old me was so facinated and obsessed with gay people that I thought of it more like Sabrina the teenage witch where guys and gals got homo magic power on reaching a certain age and I acted starestruck about it.... 27 year old me is yes bisexual but still has a gay fet so strong I can’t get turned on without it. I am married to someone who is a fudanshi and he squees more than me for sure. But meeting gay people, well, I treat them normal but I am an excitable girl talking to anyone. Hentai fans are probably the only fans I can talk anything yaoi with that aren’t yaoi-fans. Yaoi itself is being politicalized and it is annoying when porn that doesn’t involve real people becomes all about ethics when hentai has much the same issues. But understand most anime fans on site like this become more about ego. And yes the tirade against people having a fetish is annoying. Acting like fetishes are a choice. Your behavior around stuff that turns you on is all that matters, and I am very quiet irl if I see something cute in public. You learn over time to conceal feelings. And let the sight be a daily joy. |
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Maou_heika said: Because fujos have high double standards: - A lot of them hate female characters simply for being female while they love those feminine ukes - Sexual harassment, domestic violence and rape is very romantic apparently - They only see the good in and glorify the abuser/rapist in their ship and no matter what he does it's "not abuse", a good guy or a healthy relationship is always too boring for them - Go around calling others homophobic for not showing interest in their rapist x victim or straight boy x another boy ships - All characters are gay until proven straight, all characters are gay even after proven straight it's just that the author is either homophobic or has their hands tied and forced to write "straight" stuff by some Japanese anti-gay syndicate like NHK - A lot of them claim to only like fluff but two minutes later you'll see them drooling over some rapey fan-art or maybe even drawing it themselves. - Unlike most ecchi/hentai fans, fujo usually don't think of yaoi as a fetish but rather as pro-LGBT badge of hornor 1. I like plenty of female characters and I am pretty deep in a fujo corner. 2. I have seen that across all anime romance not just shonen ai or yaoi. 3. If you go to a manga centric page where anyone can tag, rape, abuse, prostitution are always tagged. Even drunk intercourse, even student teacher relationships and even a simple age gap and shota warning. Healthy relationships are boring in media. See: oremonogatari. It is just not an interesting story when there is virtually no conflict. 4. Hmmm I mean sometimes when it is super obvious, I can’t help but feel they are homophobic. Yuri on Ice people denying anything went on come to mind straight until proven otherwise. And no amount of evidence helps. Or words from the creator. 5. Rapey looking fanart is not rape. It is a SM kink thing. It isn’t even proper rape fantasy until rape. What it is is a fetishized dominance/submission power thing and some people like the power to be overwhelming and others like myself, enjoy seeing a power exchange or switch. Which some sensitive readers feel betrayed by and others like the surprise. Now, I have a lot of rape stuff in my list. Sometimes I get around to tagging and sometimes I don’t. Since I hang around a fujoshi Discord, fujoshi websites, and Facebook groups, I can tell you with experience, it is always young female fans under 18 who try to deny fetish. Mostly out of shame. Girls are more likely than boys to feel deep shame about their sexual thoughts. On the Discord I am on and generally with fudanshi, none would feel such shame to deny that it is a fetish. Once you accept that, it is better. And as I said in a previous post, I find hentai fans easier and less shaming. Unlike your post which does seek to shame people out of having a fetish, hentai fans are pretty inviting to their dark corner of the fandom. |
| The anime community in a nutshell. |
| Welp, i like oppai loli so cannot treat fujoshi or fudanshi badly, But still, why boku no pico is so infamous? Isn't it about cute boy and ikemen do something fujoshi and fudanshi like? And lot of them like to make a doujin based on the series they like and make a gay pairing in it, why not just make their original story? I don't understand |
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| Jesus christ I have never seen a group of people be so selfrighteous about their fucking fetish. AdolChri said: Misogyny + Homophobia. Same reason people got triggered by stuff like Free. Lolicons are a far more widespread phenomenon than shotacons, were are you going with this? And straight dudes ship kids characters all the times, Boruto, Digimon, Erased... No and just because another group does it doesn't mean it's suddenly morally sound also, Ad hominem: This is an attack on the character of a person rather than his or her opinions or arguments. AdolChri said: tl;dr people have issues with gay porn but not exhentai porn about little sister incest rape. That's healthy and acceptable. Nice straw man. Having a fetish is fine, fucking pretty much everyone does, but to bend the rules of logic and get this offended just because people question the morality of SOME PARTS of it is fucking ridiculous and sad. |
| I will insert Yugioh into everything and you can't fucking stop me |
| I think it should be obvious. When it comes to male to female ratio of anime community, there are tons of male anime fans than women and sharing BL/yaoi on a standard anime site, pretty sure many will trigger because most of them are guys. Of course obviously on "most" cases, no straight guy can completely tolerate BL/yaoi. |
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HotPocketRocket said: ituhata said: Probably has alot to do with people in general being ok with watching gay women making out but are absolutely repulsed by watching gay guys do the same. Probably. :/ That double standard has always annoyed me. Same here. People don't have to like everything and no one is making these people watch/look at yaoi. Also, as with every group of people, there are some loud and obnoxious idiot fujoshi who give the normal ones a really bad name. |
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Tennouji said: Of course obviously on "most" cases, no straight guy can completely tolerate BL/yaoi. Why not? I don't get the logic behind this statement at all? |
| I will insert Yugioh into everything and you can't fucking stop me |
| No idea to be honest, the fujoshi I met so far were really fun to talk to. Maybe as an ecchi fan I'm just in a position to understand them better though and "normal" anime fans just dislike them as much as "my kind" haha. |
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