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Mar 22, 2018 9:03 AM
#51
Loved the way Violet was able to bring the last words of the soldier to his loved ones. She really understands what they are going through |
Mar 22, 2018 9:10 AM
#52
I felt so sad seeing not only Aiden dying, but all the soldiers who were with him as well. Everything happened so fast, and Aiden still tried to save his friend, but he couldn't. Man, that part broke my heart. Anyway, great episode. |
Mar 22, 2018 9:12 AM
#53
This show is quickly reaching Clannad AS levels of emotionally destroying me on a regular basis. I am NOT ready for the final 3 episodes, I'll tell you that much. |
Mar 22, 2018 9:42 AM
#54
Tears. Great episode. 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton |
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Mar 22, 2018 9:43 AM
#55
I didn't cry but I'm depressed. This isn't a show of miracles, but I was really hoping for Aiden to asspull make it. So seeing him totally not make it was a gutpunch. And then watching Maria realize what happened just made me feel awful. By the time I shake this episode off, the next is going to knock me on my butt. |
Mar 22, 2018 9:45 AM
#56
Well, if they leave Gilbert dead, it will make me sad. Cuz I really liked the last chap of vol 2 and the words he did say to Violet. |
Mar 22, 2018 9:47 AM
#57
HereticHunter said: Worst episode so far, Everything was so rushed, random and very anticlimactic. like: "OMG my customer is on the middle of a war, lets rush there because why fucking not. It doesn't matter if the enemy Sees me, I'm invincible lol, if they see me they will surrender because the plot demands it" Then it comes the "emotional" part that only has lasts 5 minutes, and another "emotional" part that lasts another 5 minutes... THE END The whole moment with the soldier and his letter would have been great if it lasted long enough. Same goes for the letter that Violet delivered. 2/5 I absolutely agree with you on those soldiers just suddenly leaving without even trying much... I mean they could've tried to fight her properly by rising again right after, and it could've actually become more interesting, but instead they just decide to randomly make them leave 'because the plot demands it'. It didn't make sense to me at all. |
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Mar 22, 2018 9:51 AM
#58
Another sad episode, 5/5, very nice |
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Mar 22, 2018 9:51 AM
#59
Though not so sad as the previous episode, still a sad one. The episode manage to bring our Violet holding back her tears, but she can't now after experiencing the previous episodes, this proves her emotional growth from first until this recent episode, and even though its supposed to be a more action packed plus witchcraft as said by the LN readers here, Kyoani still manage to make the episode decent far enough. Will there still be a chapter as sad as episode 10 to be adapted for next episodes? |
Mar 22, 2018 9:57 AM
#60
Rismaya said: I hope Lux Sibyl and Edward Jones adaptaion in Anime There will be two sequel movies some time in the near future,the director announced a new project on Twitter. Also 1 recap movie I think so they could come with those. |
Mar 22, 2018 10:17 AM
#61
SushiAnime said: Rismaya said: I hope Lux Sibyl and Edward Jones adaptaion in Anime There will be two sequel movies some time in the near future,the director announced a new project on Twitter. Also 1 recap movie I think so they could come with those. Really? Well I guess that's what KyoAni do for a lot of their works... Can you give me the link? cronoSpirA said: Though not so sad as the previous episode, still a sad one. The episode manage to bring our Violet holding back her tears, but she can't now after experiencing the previous episodes, this proves her emotional growth from first until this recent episode, and even though its supposed to be a more action packed plus witchcraft as said by the LN readers here, Kyoani still manage to make the episode decent far enough. Will there still be a chapter as sad as episode 10 to be adapted for next episodes? No. Maybe Chapter 9... There's also 5 and 10, but they won't necessarily make you get emotional I think. |
"Le vent se lève!... Il faut tenter de vivre!" - Paul Valéry, Le Cimetière Marin - |
Mar 22, 2018 10:19 AM
#62
Major_Gilbert said: HereticHunter said: Worst episode so far, Everything was so rushed, random and very anticlimactic. like: "OMG my customer is on the middle of a war, lets rush there because why fucking not. It doesn't matter if the enemy Sees me, I'm invincible lol, if they see me they will surrender because the plot demands it" Then it comes the "emotional" part that only has lasts 5 minutes, and another "emotional" part that lasts another 5 minutes... THE END The whole moment with the soldier and his letter would have been great if it lasted long enough. Same goes for the letter that Violet delivered. 2/5 I absolutely agree with you on those soldiers just suddenly leaving without even trying much... I mean they could've tried to fight her properly by rising again right after, and it could've actually become more interesting, but instead they just decide to randomly make them leave 'because the plot demands it'. It didn't make sense to me at all. Glad to see someone agreeing with that. I mean, they even had bombs, they could have attacked that house with some if they try. |
"We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
Mar 22, 2018 10:42 AM
#63
Mar 22, 2018 11:00 AM
#64
One moment. The one that broke it all- “If… the two of you end up being reborn… and becoming a married couple… I’ll go to where you are. And then… I want you to give birth to me again. Please. I didn’t mean for things to end like this. I had wanted… to become happier… I was supposed… to show my happy self… to you. That’s the truth. So… please. Dad and Mom, you pray too. Make me your son again… please. |
Mar 22, 2018 12:25 PM
#65
I was crying so much in this episode, and to be honest it did tear me apart completely. I feel hurt and vulnerable and I cannot describe anything beside the fact that I feel just desperate... :( I have to think about all these poor souls in the world today who have to go through such pain like this and cannot even tell their loved ones how they feel |
Mar 22, 2018 12:40 PM
#66
So Violet followed a ninja training and can run on water... Why not? |
bruh |
Mar 22, 2018 12:49 PM
#67
My godness... Previous episodes were quite touching in general, some of them better and some average, but this one... I don't remember the last time I cried that bad while watching animeT_T It really hurt me... |
Mar 22, 2018 1:32 PM
#68
That was certainly sad at the end, but wasn't really feeling episode this time. Probably should've been questioned before or rather not questioned at all, but seeing how Violet made superhero drop from the plane and destroyed those soldiers, well that looked really strange or random, not the best way how to play/show out that situation imo. |
Mar 22, 2018 2:02 PM
#69
This episode was basically a showcase of how much Violet has grown as a character, lots of traits that she has learned over the course of the season were present here. I still don't like how they handled the first few episodes but I can see why they did it now, though I believe it could've been done better, I don't think the natural and gradual way she has developed excuses how she was portrayed and the lack of focus the show had during the first 4 episodes. |
Mar 22, 2018 2:36 PM
#70
ibraheem234 said: Violet is such a powerful character...now that was really something ...each episode is so impact worthy.... last episode to go There's still 3 more episodes to go. The show is confirmed to have 14 episodes. |
Mar 22, 2018 3:28 PM
#71
This episode made no sense and added nothing at all to the plot or to Violet's character. Sadly, a bad episode. They should've cut it out. |
Mar 22, 2018 3:30 PM
#72
Good episode, wednesday/thursdays are the days for crying this season lol |
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Mar 22, 2018 3:31 PM
#73
Major_Gilbert said: Good/Average episode. Glad they removed witchcraft. The content was pretty generic and rushed, but it wasn't horrible. They probably introduced that idea of a civil war just to show that the last chapter will definitely be adapted. That talk about the intercontinental train as well. In the novel, it was a war between 2 separate countries fighting over an oilfield drilling facility. In fact, that was what Aiden's army was trying to secure. His side was very weak due to the fact that the soldiers mainly consisted of men who were never trained before. Come to think of it... Has Violet cried in every single episode since episode 7? I'm pretty sure she did... Just checked, and I don't think she cried in episode 8. Here's the longer versions of his dictations for the letters if you want to read: “Mom. Even though I had told you... that I’d become a baseball player… to get money for you to restore our house… I’m sorry. Dad… Dad, I had wanted you to watch more of my matches. I was really happy… when you told me that you liked seeing me hit the ball. I… I had actually started baseball because I wanted to be praised by you. I feel that if there was… anything else you’d praised me for… it would have been an option too. There’s nothing more fortunate… than having been born as the son of you both. I wonder why. I’ve… always… been so happy… and, well… I’ve gone through quite a lot of hardships… but… I never thought I’d die like this. I didn’t think this would happen. Like, normally… normally… people imagine themselves becoming adults, finding a lover, getting married, having kids… I-I… I… I thought I would be able to take care of you. I didn’t think… that I would be shot without really knowing why… and die in a country so far away from you. I’m sorry. I’m also sad… but the two of you… clearly… will be sadder. I was supposed… to come back to you safely… since I’m your only son. I was… supposed to come back. But… I won’t be able to. I’m sorry. Sorry.” He resented so much not being able to see his parents again and felt so guilty that his tears recurrently halted his words. “If… the two of you end up being reborn… and becoming a married couple… I’ll go to where you are. And then… I want you to give birth to me again. Please. I didn’t mean for things to end like this. I had wanted… to become happier… I was supposed… to show my happy self… to you. That’s the truth. So… please. Dad and Mom, you pray too. Make me your son again… please. "Maria, are you… doing good? I wonder… if you’re… lonely… since I’m not there. It would be a problem… if it turns out that you’re crying everyday… but I’ve… been seeing your crying face… since we were kids… and it’s cute, so you shouldn’t… cry in front of men. I wonder if you remember… when you… confessed to me. You had… told me to not reminisce… to that time, but… y’know, I… I… was really… really… really… happy back then. I was really… so happy… That was probably… the peak… of my life… for real. I mean, I can’t remember anything else. Much more… than when I… won a baseball tournament… or was… praised by Dad… the thing that made me… the happiest… …was being told… that you… were in love with me. To tell the truth… I used to… only see you as a little sister… but you’re… too adorable, so… I soon… fell for you… You will… become even more gorgeous from now on, right? Aah, I’m jealous… of the guys that will be able to see it. If I could… I had… wanted to… make you… my bride… build a small cottage… and live… in that countryside, with you. I… loved you. I love you… Maria. Maria… Maria… Maria, I don’t wanna die… Maria, I wanna… go back to you… Maria… wait… for me… Even if… it’s just… my soul… I’ll come back… but it’s… fine if I’m… not your ‘only’. Just wait. Just… don’t forget. Don’t… forget… the first man… that you… confessed to. I also… won’t… forget. Even by… the gates… of heaven… I won’t… forget. Maria… don’t… forget me." Thanks for sharing the longer dictations of the letters. Really appreciate that! |
Mar 22, 2018 3:42 PM
#74
So while randomly click spoiler i raed Gilbert is alive huh? i expected that much from the way anime let Violet know his "death" so soon before last 2 episode Anyways why Violet do that? because he say it? or because its his last word? If he say something else will she "do it"? |
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Mar 22, 2018 3:43 PM
#75
This episode was especially hard to watch as my father went to Afghanastan, along with some friends we knew who never came back and I feel so glad for the parents that their son had someone there who took care of him until the end. Just...god it was hard. But it was beautiful to watch as well. It really is a show about emotions and expressing them and knowing what they are. The episode may not have made sense in a narrative stand point to some (although I would argue that it shows that Violet is taking inititive instead of standing around for orders), the background art is as pretty as ever. |
Mar 22, 2018 3:46 PM
#76
SalmonSandwich said: WHAT I didn't know that about the novel haha that sounds awesome though. Finally that scene from the Trailer where Violet rides a huge green axe makes sense to me :DYes my favorite chapter in the novel is adapted. Again reiterating the fact that they removed witchcraft added so much realism to the adaptation (even if she still basically freaking parachuted and ninja-ed her opponents lol.) Imagine that same scene, but with a battle axe the size of a literal lamp pole instead... That was the light novel version lol. Also changing Violet character slightly allows the viewer to empathize with her post war self and her resolve to not kill WAY more. She doesn't even use weapons for self defense throughout the whole anime after the war, showing the difference between her anime counterpart resolve and her light novel one where she does use weapons (including her damn mega sized battle axe, a pistol, carotid piercing needles, throwing knives,etc) for self defense only. Seems like they aren't going to adapt chapter 10's prison story in the TV run so they sort of added elements of it with the confrontation scene in this episode with the enemy soldier. Next episode will probably be flying letter festival and Dietfried's resolution with Violet. This is where we will find out if Kyoto Animation will keep Gilbert dead or alive. (Please keep him dead I beg you... He doesn't need to be alive! There is no narrative significance to him being magically alive for romance sake. It would basically spit on her growth as a character who overcame grief and became a independent character by her own efforts.) |
Mar 22, 2018 3:56 PM
#77
Watching the friends die like that without even having been introduced much to the characters alone was excruciating to watch, which I find awesome because the Anime makes me feel that way by just that little amount of time. The plot itself was original and creative again, although for this the novelist must be praised. All these stories are just so well thought through and always have at least one message to convey, it's fascinating really (as proof, there's always this black screen with a quote or message that hits home and is related to Violet). I love everything about this Anime and it's concept, let's see how things roll out, my biggest fear is that Violet might die somehow, my wish is that she ends up being a grown-up adult that has solved all the issues she mentally has due to her childhood. But please no spoilers owo |
Mar 22, 2018 3:59 PM
#78
HereticHunter said: Major_Gilbert said: HereticHunter said: Worst episode so far, Everything was so rushed, random and very anticlimactic. like: "OMG my customer is on the middle of a war, lets rush there because why fucking not. It doesn't matter if the enemy Sees me, I'm invincible lol, if they see me they will surrender because the plot demands it" Then it comes the "emotional" part that only has lasts 5 minutes, and another "emotional" part that lasts another 5 minutes... THE END The whole moment with the soldier and his letter would have been great if it lasted long enough. Same goes for the letter that Violet delivered. 2/5 I absolutely agree with you on those soldiers just suddenly leaving without even trying much... I mean they could've tried to fight her properly by rising again right after, and it could've actually become more interesting, but instead they just decide to randomly make them leave 'because the plot demands it'. It didn't make sense to me at all. Glad to see someone agreeing with that. I mean, they even had bombs, they could have attacked that house with some if they try. If you were paying attention to the show you'd know that Violet has been feeling guilty for taking so many lives, lives that had made promises to their own loved ones, she doesn't just want to write letters for those soldiers, she wants to save them, this much is made very clear by the end of the episode, in case you people didn't catch it. The enemy soldiers leave because they know Violet and what she's capable off. |
Mar 22, 2018 4:13 PM
#79
Another heart-breaking episode :( The last episode was a lot more emotional than this one, but it still made my heart feeling tight... |
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Mar 22, 2018 4:19 PM
#80
Eanraig said: HereticHunter said: Major_Gilbert said: HereticHunter said: Worst episode so far, Everything was so rushed, random and very anticlimactic. like: "OMG my customer is on the middle of a war, lets rush there because why fucking not. It doesn't matter if the enemy Sees me, I'm invincible lol, if they see me they will surrender because the plot demands it" Then it comes the "emotional" part that only has lasts 5 minutes, and another "emotional" part that lasts another 5 minutes... THE END The whole moment with the soldier and his letter would have been great if it lasted long enough. Same goes for the letter that Violet delivered. 2/5 I absolutely agree with you on those soldiers just suddenly leaving without even trying much... I mean they could've tried to fight her properly by rising again right after, and it could've actually become more interesting, but instead they just decide to randomly make them leave 'because the plot demands it'. It didn't make sense to me at all. Glad to see someone agreeing with that. I mean, they even had bombs, they could have attacked that house with some if they try. If you were paying attention to the show you'd know that Violet has been feeling guilty for taking so many lives, lives that had made promises to their own loved ones, she doesn't just want to write letters for those soldiers, she wants to save them, this much is made very clear by the end of the episode, in case you people didn't catch it. The enemy soldiers leave because they know Violet and what she's capable off. Did you even read what I said? you are the one that isn't paying attention, in fact you quoted an entire conversation and I can bet that you didn't even read it. I'm not doubting about Violet feelings, what I'm pointing out is the inconsistent pace that ruins everything on this show, You can have a character with the best dedication but it doesn't matter if the show sucks portraying it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
"We could make the world better, but it's easier to just shut our eyes." ~Blackwall |
Mar 22, 2018 4:27 PM
#81
Once again a great and emotional episode. Some people complained about it was forced and unrealistic for Violet to scare the soldiers away that easily. But I think it is normal reaction. She is a well known war weapon that rampaged in the front-line of battlefields. A few nobody soldiers should realize they stand no chance. There isn't even much incentive for them to finish off a heavily injured soldier, nor chase after and fight such a dangerous person that has nothing to do with the war such as Violet. This episode continued on showing the development of Violet's character. Previous episode was "I held back my tears the entire time there." And this time Violet disobeyed her boss' order and took the job on her own. Delivering a letter is no longer a "mission" from her higher up, but something she chooses to do. |
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Mar 22, 2018 4:32 PM
#82
Mar 22, 2018 4:34 PM
#83
HereticHunter said: Eanraig said: HereticHunter said: Major_Gilbert said: HereticHunter said: Worst episode so far, Everything was so rushed, random and very anticlimactic. like: "OMG my customer is on the middle of a war, lets rush there because why fucking not. It doesn't matter if the enemy Sees me, I'm invincible lol, if they see me they will surrender because the plot demands it" Then it comes the "emotional" part that only has lasts 5 minutes, and another "emotional" part that lasts another 5 minutes... THE END The whole moment with the soldier and his letter would have been great if it lasted long enough. Same goes for the letter that Violet delivered. 2/5 I absolutely agree with you on those soldiers just suddenly leaving without even trying much... I mean they could've tried to fight her properly by rising again right after, and it could've actually become more interesting, but instead they just decide to randomly make them leave 'because the plot demands it'. It didn't make sense to me at all. Glad to see someone agreeing with that. I mean, they even had bombs, they could have attacked that house with some if they try. If you were paying attention to the show you'd know that Violet has been feeling guilty for taking so many lives, lives that had made promises to their own loved ones, she doesn't just want to write letters for those soldiers, she wants to save them, this much is made very clear by the end of the episode, in case you people didn't catch it. The enemy soldiers leave because they know Violet and what she's capable off. Did you even read what I said? you are the one that isn't paying attention, in fact you quoted an entire conversation and I can bet that you didn't even read it. I'm not doubting about Violet feelings, what I'm pointing out is the inconsistent pace that ruins everything on this show, You can have a character with the best dedication but it doesn't matter if the show sucks portraying it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Why don't you try making actual arguments? How is the pacing inconsistent and how is the show portraying Violet badly? Saying that "Everything was so rushed, random and very anticlimactic" isn't an actual argument, mind you, they're vapid claims. That's why I didn't even try to contest them. "5 minutes" isn't an argument either, good or bad pacing is not about how long or short something is, it's about rhythm and sequence, and the eventual payoff that may or may not make the setup feel disjointed. |
Mar 22, 2018 4:44 PM
#84
SalmonSandwich said: Yes my favorite chapter in the novel is adapted. Again reiterating the fact that they removed witchcraft added so much realism to the adaptation (even if she still basically freaking parachuted and ninja-ed her opponents lol.) Imagine that same scene, but with a battle axe the size of a literal lamp pole instead... That was the light novel version lol. )[/spoiler] It seems to be your favourite chapter, so what you thought of the adaptation? For some reason felt a bit rushed (Still good ) but I didn´t read the novel so I wanted to know if they cut some important scenes or not |
Mar 22, 2018 5:05 PM
#85
Eanraig said: HereticHunter said: Eanraig said: HereticHunter said: Major_Gilbert said: HereticHunter said: Worst episode so far, Everything was so rushed, random and very anticlimactic. like: "OMG my customer is on the middle of a war, lets rush there because why fucking not. It doesn't matter if the enemy Sees me, I'm invincible lol, if they see me they will surrender because the plot demands it" Then it comes the "emotional" part that only has lasts 5 minutes, and another "emotional" part that lasts another 5 minutes... THE END The whole moment with the soldier and his letter would have been great if it lasted long enough. Same goes for the letter that Violet delivered. 2/5 I absolutely agree with you on those soldiers just suddenly leaving without even trying much... I mean they could've tried to fight her properly by rising again right after, and it could've actually become more interesting, but instead they just decide to randomly make them leave 'because the plot demands it'. It didn't make sense to me at all. Glad to see someone agreeing with that. I mean, they even had bombs, they could have attacked that house with some if they try. If you were paying attention to the show you'd know that Violet has been feeling guilty for taking so many lives, lives that had made promises to their own loved ones, she doesn't just want to write letters for those soldiers, she wants to save them, this much is made very clear by the end of the episode, in case you people didn't catch it. The enemy soldiers leave because they know Violet and what she's capable off. Did you even read what I said? you are the one that isn't paying attention, in fact you quoted an entire conversation and I can bet that you didn't even read it. I'm not doubting about Violet feelings, what I'm pointing out is the inconsistent pace that ruins everything on this show, You can have a character with the best dedication but it doesn't matter if the show sucks portraying it ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Why don't you try making actual arguments? How is the pacing inconsistent and how is the show portraying Violet badly? Saying that "Everything was so rushed, random and very anticlimactic" isn't an actual argument, mind you, they're vapid claims. That's why I didn't even try to contest them. "5 minutes" isn't an argument either, good or bad pacing is not about how long or short something is, it's about rhythm and sequence, and the eventual payoff that may or may not make the setup feel disjointed. That was what I felt about the episode, inconsistent pace and bad execution, but if you want me to explain so be it. KyoAni Expects you to have a 180º and feel emotional all of a sudden. Some of the stories on this anime are very rushed (with the exception of Violet's Past with Gilbert which didn't suck because it had the adequate pacing) The pace on some stories is way too fast and it ruins the entire experience. It is very hard to make a good story out of 1 single episode because there isn't enough time to portray what the episode want to express. There are times when it works because it was done correctly (I.E Osomatsu-San Ep 18 of the Second Season, or in Violet's Case, the episode where she jumps in the water was well done too). These stories would have been better if the pace were slower by using at least 2 episodes. Another thing with this anime is that it was way too overhyped before it even air, the expectations were set way too high and when I saw what it really was I felt disappointed, it isn't as good as many people say, but is not bad either (trailers were also quite misleading and hype inducing) Now about this episode, do you remember that cliffhanger when someone that knew Violet hated on her because she was writing letters for people with the hands of a murderer? what we got the next week? and out of place episode. This time, it starts very abruptly without any build up. Then it rushes through it, like damn, I couldn't even feel bad for the soldiers who died, neither the soldier who was the focus this time. Like I said before, the story could have been better if they didn't rush it like that. |
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Mar 22, 2018 5:06 PM
#86
Ohh!!! For sure Violet can relate to this one, as she has also involved in a war years ago. Upon seeing Maria (and His parents reaction) after delivering his letter, they just cry since they knew that he is dead. *another sad and emotional story... |
Mar 22, 2018 5:17 PM
#87
Great episode, but i feel like this anime lacks general direction |
Mar 22, 2018 5:24 PM
#88
Ehh, this episode felt much weaker compared to the previous one :/ The emotional parts were great, but the rushed first half and its unrealistic (compared to the anime itself of course) aspects made me roll my eyes quite a lot... I wish they would have replaced it with something else, some other way she ends up at the battlefield and helps out, saving Aiden in the process. I feel like some of these stories/requests could use 2 episodes instead of one. The previous one was perfect though, so not all of them. |
Mar 22, 2018 6:19 PM
#89
Mar 22, 2018 6:19 PM
#90
Didn't think I would end up crying at all this ep, but they managed to get me a bit when the mom hugged Violet. Did feel a little rushed. These somewhat self contained stories flow better when they cut the intro and animate over the outro. That is more costly tho. |
Mar 22, 2018 6:19 PM
#91
God damn... this show gets me with every episode. It's made so lovely, one of best in winter season. |
Mar 22, 2018 7:10 PM
#92
Mar 22, 2018 7:45 PM
#93
hum, during the whole episode I just couldn't help thinking "well, this guy sure is taking his time dying'. What can I say, didn't felt this one |
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Mar 22, 2018 9:01 PM
#94
this episode is pure emotional. yes this is not a aperfect episode, the part where she fight is a bit disturbing and at the same time gives me awe. but hte letter of the soldier realy emotional, and it feels like violet is really understand his emotion and really feeling sypmhatic. clearly not perfect but i think tihis is really good episode before i review first several episode as ugly, adn bit disapointing because the trailer made lot of people have overly high expectation. bit in this episdoe yo can say that i meet my expectation, and also i think in the few last episode is really good, very different from episode 1-5. oh yes btw i see that more people gives 5/5 rating than before. |
Mar 22, 2018 9:18 PM
#95
This is exactly why I saw potential in Violet Evergarden. Just how much Violet has changed is definitely the greatest thing about this show. ^_^ |
Mar 22, 2018 9:22 PM
#96
HereticHunter said: Worst episode so far, Everything was so rushed, random and very anticlimactic. like: "OMG my customer is on the middle of a war, lets rush there because why fucking not. It doesn't matter if the enemy Sees me, I'm invincible lol, if they see me they will surrender because the plot demands it" Then it comes the "emotional" part that only has lasts 5 minutes, and another "emotional" part that lasts another 5 minutes... THE END The whole moment with the soldier and his letter would have been great if it lasted long enough. Same goes for the letter that Violet delivered. 2/5 HereticHunter said: That was what I felt about the episode, inconsistent pace and bad execution, but if you want me to explain so be it. KyoAni Expects you to have a 180º and feel emotional all of a sudden. Some of the stories on this anime are very rushed (with the exception of Violet's Past with Gilbert which didn't suck because it had the adequate pacing) The pace on some stories is way too fast and it ruins the entire experience. It is very hard to make a good story out of 1 single episode because there isn't enough time to portray what the episode want to express. There are times when it works because it was done correctly (I.E Osomatsu-San Ep 18 of the Second Season, or in Violet's Case, the episode where she jumps in the water was well done too). These stories would have been better if the pace were slower by using at least 2 episodes. Another thing with this anime is that it was way too overhyped before it even air, the expectations were set way too high and when I saw what it really was I felt disappointed, it isn't as good as many people say, but is not bad either (trailers were also quite misleading and hype inducing) Now about this episode, do you remember that cliffhanger when someone that knew Violet hated on her because she was writing letters for people with the hands of a murderer? what we got the next week? and out of place episode. This time, it starts very abruptly without any build up. Then it rushes through it, like damn, I couldn't even feel bad for the soldiers who died, neither the soldier who was the focus this time. Like I said before, the story could have been better if they didn't rush it like that. Like people have said already, there are aspects of this episode and the whole anime adaptation that has felt rushed or poorly developed. Like how the soldiers easily give up where as in the novel Violet actually incapacitated the enemy with her battle axe(not killing them like Major_Gilbert had said). I would argue though that it was more unrealistic in the novel version where it was CH Postal service that had the plane ready with a fucking spy communication earring and Violet appearing with a battle-axe the size of a lightpole without any scene happening before it that indicated the company had these resources ready lol. So I think they actually remedied that aspect of the chapter? Sadly that is the reality of adapting a source material, where you have to indicate events and shorten aspects of it versus a novel where you can describe it in detail with no word limit. I think it definitely would have benefited from a two-cour, but sadly the production committee would not have allowed it. Even an original source material getting this much attention and care for a TV animated show is bizarre since normally you would expect this out of Kyoto Animation's movies instead. However to play devil's advocate IMO they did get to the heart of the narrative without compromising each episodic story's themes even at the sacrifice of detailed story events and pacing. It really comes down to if they can convince you with their version/pacing of the narrative in this limited 24 minute run time. Clearly it didn't work for you, and there is nothing wrong with it. It's fair since that's just the nature of narrative fiction? Can the author/creator/etc convince the audience in a certain timeframe? For the "out of pace" episode after Dietfried's initial meeting changing to the end of episode 5 and them jump cutting next episode to episode 6, that did feel awkwardly paced DEFINITELY!! I was thinking wait did I miss the intro scene when watching the livestream lol?! They did need to properly end that scene so it didn't feel jarring like Dietfried leaving angrily abruptly leaving Violet hanging there without a word at the pier or something. However I would argue that the actual story that accompanied ep 6 was not out of place at all in hindsight. Originally the story served to delve more deeply into Violet's character after chapter 3, since until now she was really a distant character that the reader's didn't really know about. Its the chapter where we learn that she is some kickass supergirl in chapter 3 and FINALLY get hints to her character in chapter 4, such as how she eats alone due to her history of ambushes int he war, or on her family situation. However we know that as viewers since episode 1 in the anime adaptation so to make it feel less redundant the anime staff decided to emphasize the orphan story angle with a side character more so we the viewers can relate with Violet through another character instead. Also to point out since until episode 6 in the anime Violet really had no one to relate to other then Gilbert. So when the episode's theme revolves around Leon telling Violet at the end that regardless of his past trauma of waiting for his parents, he won't be held back by it any longer, and decides to pursue the career he really wants to go into. It resonates with Violet telling her "Hey your past shouldn't tie you to your present decisions" since she has been ruminating since episode 5 why she should be allowed to have such an wonderful and poignant occupation as a ghostwriter. It also introduces the element of Violet starting to understand her guilt over killing people which really was missing from the novels since they really skip over it and imply it instead. We understand even as light novel readers a distinct turning point for Violet as a character versus just some soldier without emotions. CT_BINO said: SalmonSandwich said: Yes my favorite chapter in the novel is adapted. Again reiterating the fact that they removed witchcraft added so much realism to the adaptation (even if she still basically freaking parachuted and ninja-ed her opponents lol.) Imagine that same scene, but with a battle axe the size of a literal lamp pole instead... That was the light novel version lol. It seems to be your favourite chapter, so what you thought of the adaptation? For some reason felt a bit rushed (Still good ) but I didn´t read the novel so I wanted to know if they cut some important scenes or not Like you said alot of important events are cut short and feel rushed like Violet's initial hospital rehab, Violet's past as a soldier, or even Violet's origin when first found by Dietfried. However I would also argue Kyoto Animation did their best with the air time they had. They had to prioritize and get to the heart of each chapter/story they adapted while keeping the heart of the narrative. They can't just waste time animating the details of one person's monologue for 23 minutes and ignore the entire chapter... TLDR: I would still favor the anime over the source even with all the cuts and/or retelling of events in the story since the pros FAR outweigh the cons of the adaptation with its visual story telling, world building, and subtle character depth over the novels. (For example Cattelya has no character at all in the novel, there is no indication of cultural or historical context in any of the country's location, etc.) |
SalmonSandwichMar 22, 2018 10:14 PM
Mar 22, 2018 10:47 PM
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SushiAnime said: Rismaya said: I hope Lux Sibyl and Edward Jones adaptaion in Anime There will be two sequel movies some time in the near future,the director announced a new project on Twitter. Also 1 recap movie I think so they could come with those. can you tell me, who is the director n link of his twitter? |
Mar 22, 2018 11:27 PM
#98
I'm confused as to how Violet is a "weapon," though? She doesn't seem exceptionally strong (obviously she is), but it heavily implies that she's human. She was an orphan, but by the time she was fighting she was already good. So what happened within that time period? Excessive training? Experiments on her? |
Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Mar 22, 2018 11:33 PM
#99
Definitely a sad episode, but compared to episode 10 this one tickled. |
Mar 23, 2018 12:12 AM
#100
Now that I think about it, considering how far a doll has to travel, they must get a lot of money for travel expenses...Then again for Violet, she doesn't really need a change of clothes... Uhh...when you are under enemy fire, isn't taking cover the first thing that you're supposed to do? Maria is pretty well-endowed, isn't she? Too bad for Aiden... "A wonderful girl will come and put your feelings in a letter." Well that's one way of advertising your AMD business... I guess Violet put herself in Maria's shoes and thought about Gilbert when she saw Aiden although the episode didn't directly show that. One of the weaker and more generic episodes IMO. It all felt rushed to get everything down, and I didn't feel much when Aiden was on his last legs. I was hoping for louder cries when Violet visited the Mom, Dad, and Maria. Heh...it reminds me of a scene from the film "A League of Their Own"... |
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