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Dec 18, 2017 11:54 AM

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Is this another case of a caster summoning their own servant or is Caster of Red just messing with Ruler?
It's sad to see Mordred and her master die but I really didn't want to see another Sabre or archer class make it to the end, I'm glad she found some kind of peace though. I really wish we gotten more background on her master though.
Now we are down to just two proper servants, Shakespeare and Astolfo but Caster has spent the entire grail war avoiding the fighting which might make him illegible. I'm really not sure about the status of both Rulers or Seig and how they relate to accessing the grail, this entire grail war is confusing.
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Dec 18, 2017 12:10 PM

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Aaaahhhh that was good, got our next set of deaths, MAH BOY SHAKESPEARE doin work and makin things fun, even brought back freaking Gilles.
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Dec 18, 2017 2:40 PM

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Okayyyy well that fight was pretty cool. Looks like Mordred and her master fought knowing they wouldnt make it through although im not really sure why Mordred gave up on getting the grail all of a sudden just to fight Semiramis. Its sad to see Mordred and her master gone since i felt like they had the only actual master/servant relationship in this show. I guess Fiore/Chiron and Jack/Reika kinda had one but yeah thats pretty much it. Mordred’s felt the most real.

So i am just going to assume that Mordred and master died thinking they defeated Semiramis, but she isnt really gone. Seeing that her chains were attacking Astolfo now.

Shakespeare seems to be getting to Jeanne a little bit but i am 99% positive Sieg is gonna come and save her which is so cliche and boring. Meh whatever.

On a last note it was nice to hear from Arturia and Gilles again. Blast from the past!!!
Dec 18, 2017 3:45 PM

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RIP best duo in this series.
Dec 19, 2017 12:36 AM
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JDartrix said:
LeloTheUnamused said:
I liked the animations and the Gilles scene, but I need to rewatch it with subs, since there were some things I didn't get and I sadly can't read the LN for comparisons (since it's volume 5 and it was never translated).

For example, was it explained what Shishigo used on Mordred to make her resist the poison? I heard Semiramis being surprised at that, but I'm not sure if it was explained or even mentioned in this or in previous episodes.
Plus, the Jeanne and Gilles scene... while really cool to see (and I love Shakespeare), I've been waiting for this scene for a lot of time, only knowing that Caster would've broken Jeanne and having basic knowledge of what he did to Frankie (from both anime and LN)... and that was it?
I mean, I'll wait for subs to clarify a bit of the dialogues to me, but didn't they just say to Jeanne "You love him but you sent him to die in the battlefield"?
What's so mindbreaking to her in that? She literally did that to the French Army when she was alive, and she saw even worse things in this HGW.
It's almost like there is a missing part, something that would explain how she shrugs off all of Caster illusions of dead people and then suddenly explodes for Sieg. Is there something related to Laeticia? I feel like there will be more in the next episode, but if that's all of it then what the heck.

Anyone who knows something more (either by reading obscure fan translations or being able to read the japanese LN) can explain it to me?


Remember the first episode? The advanced payment he got from the old dude? That was a juvenile hydra. The poison used by Semiramis was a primordial form of the Hydra (there is a close link from them). Did you notice throughout season 1 Sisigou was doing something as they chill in the graveyard? He was turning the Hydra as a DAGGER. He was a NECROMANCER after all. A hydra (adult) could kill a Heroic Spirit (Chiron) with its poison (the pain caused him to give up immortality) when he found out Chiron's identity in Volume 4, he planned to use it on him. Of course, that never happened. Upon realizing Semiramis' uses poison, he ended up using the Hydra as an ANTIDOTE (yes snake poison counters snake poison its real life general knowledge)
I can see why he didn’t get that
Dec 19, 2017 2:19 AM

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R.I.P Mordred the best character left has passed. Semiramis is OP...I mean summoning half a primordial beast is a lot SMH. Was rooting for Mordred as she and Jack were my favorites.

Shakespear doing work on the entertainment scale lol. The seeing Gillies turning to blue beard was a nice touch and loved the camo by merlin.
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Dec 19, 2017 5:05 AM

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As cool as the animation looked last episode, I enjoyed this episode more. I'm so happy they were able to maintain the quality for Mordred's fight.
Dec 19, 2017 7:41 AM

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RIP Mordred and Shishigou. They were a great duo. Mordred fight against Semiramis was great.

The appearance of Gilles was a surprise. I didn't expect to see him again.

Dec 20, 2017 10:49 AM

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Why couldn't Mordred and her master just be the main protagonists? :v They're way more interesting than Sieg.
Dec 20, 2017 11:23 AM

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There goes the last interesting character. It was a good fight but Mordred death was a cop out. They knew she was the best character but disposes of her the cheapest way possible so we can focus on bland Jeanne and her boring boyfriend Sieg.

Lame
Dec 20, 2017 12:41 PM

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This episode went by pretty fast. Sad to see Mordred and Shishigou gone, one of the few characters I found interesting. I only now realized how strong Hanging Gardens of Babylon really is, being able to take down Saber and her master plus many other things it can do.

Caster's Noble Phantasm is interesting, fun to see Gille de Rais again. But I still don't understand why and how Ruler loves Sieg so much. So much that Caster's Noble Phantasm only takes effect when he is involved.
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Dec 20, 2017 1:44 PM
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They were gorgeous. And they died. Sad.
I want more Mordred. Some kind of side story or so.
By the way, what was the original reason of personal confrontation between Mordred and Semi?
Dec 20, 2017 2:17 PM

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This is my favorite episode, by far. It had Assassin of Red and Caster of Red, finally. I hope Assassin of Red kills Rider of Black ;)





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Dec 20, 2017 5:57 PM

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First part was so awesome! Aka no Saber properly defeated Aka no Assassin at the cost of her master Shishigou.
Ruler's weakness is definitely Aka no Caster with William Shakespeare Noble Phantasm, he's slowly destroying her mentally. lolz stronger than genjutsu!
4/5.


Dec 21, 2017 1:20 AM
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If MAL didn't inform me who the main characters were I would have thought it was Moedred and her master only for the first few episodes.
Heckle was here...
Dec 21, 2017 2:25 AM

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Assassin of Red simply amazing for me. but I still hate the fact that she get beaten like that.

gender in Fate are confusing.
Mordred think her father is a man while it's a "she".
why don't she call Arthuria a "she"? it's confusing, calling a woman as their father and with "he" where it's actually a "she".

Ruler went AFK.
Dec 21, 2017 5:28 AM

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ahhhh what a fight! that was beautiful. SO sad to see Semiramis go, I loved her. as well as Mordred. good to know there's only one episode left cause I couldn't care less about the rest. Caster was awesome though, to make Jeanne break down like that :-)
Dec 21, 2017 12:31 PM

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Apocrypha seems to like giving it's servants a good death. Like, even if they don't win, for heroes of old summoned to fight as servants, a death like that is probably one of the best endings they can hope for, besides winning, of course. Still, I'd have loved to see Mordred remain in this world and hang out with Shishigo ~ tho that's not possible unless u win and wish upon it or something is it? Or can you just remain anyway if you'd feed on souls. Like, Gilgamesh stuck 'till the next grail war but he was the last man standing and and I recall he said it was the grail's wish for him to rule again. I didn't exactly get that part as in, if he himself made a wish to remain in our world or the grail just wanted for him to remain.
Dec 22, 2017 1:08 AM
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Episode 24 preview:

Dec 22, 2017 6:46 PM

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For such great characters, the amount of screen time Mordred and Sisigo got was not enough! Their last scene was nice though. But I don’t think Semiramis is completely gone. The Gardens are still hanging, and we didn’t see her body disappear...

I’ve been really enjoying these last 3 episodes, and I hope that keeps going for the last 2!
Dec 23, 2017 2:18 AM

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Can anyone tell us what the story about Or exactly what happening
.All I see is random battles ..
Dec 23, 2017 11:22 AM

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Finally the best scene in Apomemes is here with also the best fight (sadly the second part is not entirely true in the anime.)

I liked the adaptation of Morde VS Semi, but I think they made it a little too short, I can be wrong, but the fight in the novel looked like it was more than just that, but I liked it, still it didn't make me see it as the best fight like in the novel, for me, in the anime, the best fight is still Morde VS Jack on the beginning episodes, anyways I'm glad that they saved budget for Morde's fight, thank you A-1.

Morde and Sisigou are just too perfect, they are literally one of my - if not the best - best duos in the entire Fate franchise, and their death is just beautiful. I really wanted that A-1 made an anime version of the image of their final moments together like in the novel, but it was beautiful nonetheless. Morde's Lily form is just too cute btw <3

Anyways... We also have Jeanne's part, right. Eh. I love Shakespeare and he is the ONLY motive that I didn't stopped watching the episode when we got in this part, y'know, in the novel was already cringe, but the anime at least made it cool with COOOOOOOORU and Shakespeare voices.

This part just shows how Higa doesn't care anymore and just use the "Laeticia Card" to make bad writing seems plausible. This part DESTROYS Jeanne's character arc COMPLETELY and just makes her be a love slave from Sieg and nothing more.

Jeanne deserved a better writer, it's not her fault, actually, Apomemes IS good, the ONLY problem is Sieg, his existence can make a lot of good things become bad just because he can't mix well with the story and proves that Higa doesn't know how to make a Shirou - and he tried REALLY HARD to do that with Sieg, but again, he will NEVER understand why Shirou is so loved and how good he is as a character. -

I don't like making serious comments on any Fate thread, but I can't forgive Higa for what he did to Apo, Siegfried and Jeanne as a whole. Morde and Sisigou should have been the MC's and this opinion will not change ever.

Anyways... I'm giving 5/5 JUST because of Morde and Shakespeare, at this point I'm just going to ignore Jeanne, and I think that other people bothered with her and Sieg should just do the same... Not that it will help make the ending any less horrible.

Welcome guys, this is the beginning of the reason of WHY Apomemes is the worst Fate work.
Dec 24, 2017 11:48 AM

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I'm glad Gilles de Rais appeared finally in Fate, it makes pretty sense that he should appear in the anime because of Jeanne, especially how obsessed he was with her on Fate/Zero :)

Now I just wonder if Gilles de Rais is back what class would he have if he really is a servant or would it be like with Iskandars servants that's linked directly to the specific class, can't wait for the last episodes :)
Dec 24, 2017 6:02 PM

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Damn Gilles and his creepy face again. I wish they didn't cover Merlin's face. Well, can't be helped since he's just a cameo character.


Dec 29, 2017 4:34 AM

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Sad to see those two go. I loved Mordred. Despite the limited screen time they got, they were definitely a highlight of the series.
Dec 30, 2017 3:57 AM

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What was an awesome fight. Sadly. Master and Servant are down. Semiramis could still be alive
Dec 31, 2017 3:30 AM

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Mordred was so cool, what a great battle, one of the best ones for sure! So sad to see Mordred go when Sieg still alive, she deserved to live.
Jan 1, 2018 1:55 PM

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Mordred and Sisigo ended up having quite simple storyline but they are without doubt the best characters of this series, even if what they did ended up amount to little. It's quite sad really but oh well, I guess I will just repeat myself yet again, this series, this story really dropped the bucket when those two didn't become the main characters.

Sigh, by now every great character is pretty much done for... well obviously with the exception of my man Shakespeare who might not be the most powerful of servants but I sure like him for what he is.

Other than him there is also Astolfo but Astolfo continued to prove time and time again that he is there just for fan service rather than anything else.

So yea in the end all that remains and still have importance are chars like Jeanne, Seig and Shiro... OMG this will be a true tragedy from now on! No worries though as there are only two more episodes and Gilles came over to help us out with passing through at least one of them.
Jan 1, 2018 6:17 PM

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Great fight between Mordred and Assyria!!!

Definitely much better(animation wise) compared to the last ones.

I love how Mordred remembered what Arthur thought of before She pulled Excalibur from the ground.

Poor Jeanne, but she should have felt anything on Sieg. I guess mind games is Shakespeare's specialization.

I also love how they got Gille's original voice since the original Fate series!

Last 2 episodes!!
Jan 19, 2018 5:02 AM

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Someone know ost what playing in fight Mordred vs Semiramis 1 part, where tons of chains.
Feb 7, 2018 4:24 PM

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With the badass duo of Mordred and Shishigou dead, the series ends here. I'm angry that awesome characters like them are wasted in this show for a generic MC, a boring saint and a trap. Mordred vs Assassin of Red was ok. The appearance of Caster from F/Z was unexpected. More forced drama with Ruler and Sieg. 3/5
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Feb 22, 2018 4:32 AM

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Man... I really think "its all over" by the time Mordred got trapped inside all that poison.
Wished her and Shishigo to be the winner but... I guess instead they pulled the most memorable comeback I had ever seen.
The Saber class ability, and Mordred's loyality is enviable. My favorite gone after Atalanta is too...
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Mar 7, 2018 11:30 PM
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Cool Mordred fight with gar LionGo, gotta surf that blade like Eureka7! I thought someone mentioned before servants aren't affected by poisons...oh well didn't really dull her awesomeness.
Their wishes were a surprising change, but it's a beautiful end for both noticing the father & daughter they earned for in their partner.
Semiramis' defense still active...so she maybe alive.
Rider got the powered new moon behind him...yet he decides to chill out in those chains lol.
Best Grill de Rais is back & that transition to F/0 crazyface was 10/10.

Apr 7, 2018 12:13 PM

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Now that was a great battle with a well-executed sendoff of the best duo in the show. It took Mordred up until the end of a "second" life in order to understand her father. If only Arturia had been more in tune with human psychology instead of opting to discard emotions in carrying out her ideals, Camelot's fate may have been much different.

Shakespeare's mindgame against Jeanne was a compelling moment, particularly with Gilles making an appearance, although unfortunately it revolved around Jeanne's affection for Sieg which itself still feels incredibly contrived.
Oct 31, 2018 5:43 PM

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Damn I really wanted Mordred to win lol
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
Mar 31, 2019 11:52 PM

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And like that the only two characters I kind of gave a shit about vanished from this series.
Jun 24, 2019 9:20 AM

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Lol, Modred smoking.

Still not seeing any Assassin skill from Semiramis.
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Jul 4, 2019 5:01 PM
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I had a feeling it was too easy for Mordred to get the Greater Grail. My poor girl, I'm so sad it had to end this way.
Jul 11, 2019 1:08 PM

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Best girl left the show. Ruler totally knew it's just an illusion... until she freaked out because she thought it's real of course. Genius!
Jul 14, 2019 7:42 PM

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FUCK FUCK FUCK

I was expecting Mordred to die somehow but I didn't think Sisigo was going to die too... fuck. My favorite Master-Servant duo is gone just like that. Though I really like the way they went out. It was bittersweet at the very least

the hottest servant Semiramis is gone too. well that was inevitable
Sep 3, 2019 2:40 AM

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Damn, Semiramis is strong. Mordred and Shishigou spent their command spells to bring her down and still died, and that was after Astolfo fought to near-death just to get past the outer defenses of her Hanging Gardens. She is way crazier than any other Assassin I have seen.

Shishigou lasted longer than I thought he would. With him being obviously cooler than MC Sieg, I was expecting Shishigou to get killed off at the end of the first half.

The Mordred flashback confused me. Was Mordred alive when Arturia first drew Excalibur? I thought Mordred was only born later when Arturia was king?
Sep 3, 2019 4:10 AM
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the jeanne part of this episode was such cringe, to think that's what follows up Mordred and Shishigo's scene lmao

Gilles is a piece of trash as always, so is Fate's version of Shakespeare
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The Mordred flashback confused me. Was Mordred alive when Arturia first drew Excalibur? I thought Mordred was only born later when Arturia was king?

it's not a flashback, Mordred was imagining it.

She thought pulling out the sword of selection and becoming King was her wish, but she discovered that the reason she wanted to be King in the first place was to save her daddy from the isolation and inhumanity that he brought on himself
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Shayon said:
SpectrumDT said:
The Mordred flashback confused me. Was Mordred alive when Arturia first drew Excalibur? I thought Mordred was only born later when Arturia was king?

it's not a flashback, Mordred was imagining it.

She thought pulling out the sword of selection and becoming King was her wish, but she discovered that the reason she wanted to be King in the first place was to save her daddy from the isolation and inhumanity that he brought on himself

OK, that makes sense. Thanks!
Oct 5, 2019 7:36 AM

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Best team is out of the battle. One of the few things that I really liked about this anime, I will miss them.
Mar 29, 2020 7:13 PM
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Wow, this ep was just really good. More Mordred and Shishigo, best team, who go out with a bang. And the final bit with Ruler allucinating was extremely creepy, especially when f***ing Caster from FZ shows up.
Apr 12, 2020 7:51 PM

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four servants left..never thought shake spear will last this long
Apr 28, 2020 9:24 PM

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Time to Ruler.. Ma, she so pretty.
May 11, 2020 8:07 PM

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GOD DAMn. i did NOT prepare myself for Shishigou and Mordred's final parting, shit hit me right in the feels ;-;
i 'm genuinely surprised they killed Shishigou off, dude felt like the mc throughout the entire anime and i fucking loved his character. His talk with Mordred before the Semiramis fight felt like 2 friends who go back ages having another casual talk, or a father and son having a laugh. added more to the feels train afterwards :c
Semiramis and Mordred fight was overall, very brutal. Semiramis arsenal of NPs is fucking brutal, being able to summon a floating fortress, turn everything around her to poison and fucking summon a familiar of the primal beast God of the literal mother of the world Tiamat. I don't think there was anyway in hell that Mordred could of beat her without a scratch. But that final blow she did on Semiramis was clean.
lmao seeing Gilles de Rais was also a surprise, I can't ever forget his face after watching Zero xD

Mar 3, 2023 12:47 PM

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Certainly, by far Mordred and Kairi had the best Servant and Master dynamic. Love to see it.


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