| The producer of Kemono Friends just raised a death flag on anime as we know it. Source If you want to save anime and aren't a fan of Chinese anime, start supporting the industry now otherwise we'll be in a future with a lot of meh anime in the future. I do applaud China's effort in trying to make good anime, but everytime I try one out, something's missing or they mixed two genres that shouldn't mix in anime. I fear for the idol genre though. |
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| Oh shit. I don't want to watch literal Chinese cartoons. SUPPORT THE INDUSTRY! |
| "No, son, you may not have your body pillow at the dinner table!" |
| Japan should stop firing their successful staff if they want to survive, that would be a good start. |
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| Us supporting the industry won't affect that at all. If they actually wanna stop that from happening, there needs to be changes from the industry internally. “China, Korea, and Taiwan have been making tremendous progress. Japan has milked its artists with weak wages and poor working conditions, the industry was stupidly short-sighted and didn’t make itself sustainable for future generations.” |
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| I already support the industry as much as I can though :/ |
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| Japan'd first need to start caring about western fans |
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| >SupPoRTinG ThE inDUsTRy 1. stop selling overpriced shits (BluRay) 2. make shits available globally really dumb industry, same issue with japanese games, it's hella expensive there (up to 10k yen) and a decade is very long time anyway. it would be nice to have both jp and chinese cartoons available. |
Cross  AngeHey guys check my profile for current airing season anime recommendation (guaranteed best taste) |
| The concept of literal Chinese anime was created by and for the Chinese in order to make Japanese anime non-competitive |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| thatll give u a push to stop your anime adiction |
| Sonic X is basically an isekai |
| Dunno how that would happen when anime is first and foremost domestic and when the foreign fandom it has(you here on MAL basically) have such an aversion to Chinese 'anime'. |
| Not surprised given how the industry has been built up in Japan. Sooner or later that culture is going to realize it can't always hold onto the methods of the past. |
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| another country may take over the medium, but it still will be as shit. |
| N.etorare T.echnical R.esearcher |
| I'm liking what I see of China, their anime feel a bit different from the japanese ones and that makes it interesting. I definitely want to see them have a bigger share of the market just for the sake of variety. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Tfw when the joke about watching Chinese cartoons becomes reality. |
amk_2397 said: Us supporting the industry won't affect that at all. If they actually wanna stop that from happening, there needs to be changes from the industry internally. “China, Korea, and Taiwan have been making tremendous progress. Japan has milked its artists with weak wages and poor working conditions, the industry was stupidly short-sighted and didn’t make itself sustainable for future generations.” Pretty much this. Finding a fix for this whole mess is going to be hard though. In order for the industry to flurish, these things need to happen: - Anime studios have to become self sufficient and thus need a good alternative for their income (Like Kyani who also is in the LN industry and mostly adapts their own stuff). - Production committees have to go away, they only hold the Studios back by making their products hardly profitable and forcing them to make what the committee wants them to make. Removing them makes it easier for anime studios to grow their own way. (at least Netflix gives them more money when it comes to Netflix Originals). - Stop relying on BD sales, its 2017, most of us don't want overprised disks (we rather buy a full AAA game). - Stop treating the workers as Slaves with poor wages: The industry now has an Animator problem and guess why. - More and better investment in Streaming: Streaming is the thing now, not capitalizing more on it will be a huge mistake. - go Region free if they can: Less reasons for ppl to go Pirate. |
KuuhakuDesu said: Hoppy said: I fear for the idol genre though. Only reason I'd be concerned if real Chinese cartoons became the big thing. This and getting used to the language they usually speak in their dub (be it mandarin or one of its infinite languages/dialects/etc.) I'm not sure if Idol Memories did well in China (it was an experimental anime made more for them than the Japanese), if it did well, then it won't end well for the genre, that anime was a nightmare to watch as it is not a feel good idol anime whatsoever unlike what it should've been, it's WUG with pure darkness and no light at the end of the tunnel. I don't want anymore idol torture anime. |
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| I actually hope china will take over. Dafaq do i care if its china or japan that makes this staff as long as its good? I feel like the industry in japan is dying, their milking cliches and they dont give a fuck as long as they make money, the industry atm is just recycled garbage for lolicons and shonen fans. Hopefully some other asian countrys will bring some competition to the market so that there would be some progress. |
| oh come on is the producer of Kemono Friends, crap. |
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| If the Chinese animation industry becomes big, I don't mind at all. I've accepted a while ago that China is "taking over the world" with its massive population, growing economy, and massive pool of producers and consumers to make a lot of products. Hell, I've accepted the possibility that my learning Mandarin Chinese will end up paying off more in the end than my learning Japanese. But while such growth and consumption is impressive, China is not the final and permanent nail in every other country's coffin in every industry on the planet. They might be the biggest guy on the playground, but he won't be alone and without competition. That said, what I do mind is the viability of Japanese animation. It really sucks that the men and women in the business - especially the animators - are not getting paid well enough to live comfortably and without unnecessary stress. Failing to address the chronic and fundamental weaknesses in the industry will harm anime the most. Though the pride is what concerns me the most. Unchecked pride and unchallenged confidence are dangerously blinding, especially when alarm bells and sirens are blaring at an impending disaster that can still be avoided. The first step in solving a problem is acknowledging that it exists. Good to see Fukuhara has done so, because there needs to be more as aware of the situation as him (if not proactive so things can start to change). If enough of Japan hasn't had that wakeup call yet, they better get on it soon before the anime industry completely implodes on itself with China, Korea, and their neighbors picking up the rest of the pieces that Japan in its pride should have taken better care of in the first place. |
| Let's band our resources together and usurp Chrunchyroll as the flagship supporter in the West. Anyone? No? Just me? Figures. |
Hoppy said: The producer of Kemono Friends just raised a death flag on anime as we know it. Source If you want to save anime and aren't a fan of Chinese anime, start supporting the industry now otherwise we'll be in a future with a lot of meh anime in the future. I do applaud China's effort in trying to make good anime, but everytime I try one out, something's missing or they mixed two genres that shouldn't mix in anime. I fear for the idol genre though. Cupid's Chocolates is great and im really hoping for a Guns Girl School Dayz anime, however that doesn't mean i want anime to actually turn into Chinese cartoons XD |
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| I still prefer Japanese anime over Chinese anime but if China got more money, then there's nothing we can do since Chinese people actually watch their anime legally unlike international anime fan with their piracy. I've buy and support anime as much as I can. At least I try. |
| 'America is a stolen country' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM8WZ0ztMuc Zapredon said: It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person. Totally agree! |
| Well it's Japan's old ways are still creeping in their industry, whether it's anime, manga, or even porn, I'm not sure why the hell they are so advance but so old in other ways. As for China, they should only adapt the quality stories, they have the worst stories I've ever seen. As much as I want to see their anime industry bloom, I don't want to see anything which are related to Xianxia, Xuanhuan and Wuxia to become their mainstream, fuck it's gonna be hell if they overtake Anime and they've set the three genres as their mainstream like their web novels. Though that's exaggerated, Japan is still fighting. "Japan's Anime Industry Grows to Record $17.7B, Boosted by 'Your Name' and Exports" https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/japans-anime-industry-grows-record-177b-boosted-by-your-name-exports-1058463 |
youseikiDec 8, 2017 9:20 PM
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| Never glimpse in mine that chinoise will have better aesthetic than nihonjin master race tho' |
 la critique de l'intention pure |
| I have no interest in Chinese animation. I wouldn't be interested at all. |
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| I don't know. They have to be rich enough to keep creating it, and be profitable enough. Piracy IS an issue and it's a question of whether or not they can sustain the industry. Given that the country itself is not predispositioned to capitalism, how to market the product is also a question. I mean, Korea had pretty decent stories, but their animation didn't take off either. |
That's what I'm talking about, only few of them are good, and their world building is practically the same... Imagine there are 1000 One Piece, no let's say 10000 One Piece, that would be hell. |
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LOL you didn't get my point, It's not Shounen, it's Eastern Fantasy Setting which I'm afraid of, Thousands of them uses the Same World Building, they are practically the Same, especially those Cultivation process, all of them uses the Same formula. It's not like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach or Dragonball uses the same world, power or technique. Their Manhuas pales compared to the number of Novels they produce, there are at least more than thousands of manhuas compared to tens of thousands of their web novel. Their manhuas are creative which is the same for Mangas and Manwhas, but they are so few compared to the repetitive setting of their novels, it's the same for the japanese and kroean novels, but at least they have a decent amount of creative stories through their comics. |
youseikiDec 9, 2017 12:22 AM
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Jyzal said: It's not like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach or Dragonball uses the same world, power or technique. If those anime are the standard for modern shounen anime then maybe it wouldn't be so bad but those are old, if you're going to compare, compare modern to modern. fyi I have no clue what chinese anime/manga is, just sayin. Their drama industry is booming though, has already overtaken Japan, or maybe there was no competition in the first place. They definitely have the culture and infrastructure to pull off great entertainment. LaLeLuLiLo said: another country may take over the medium, but it still will be as shit. At least you recognize that the medium is in shitty state, not like China can make shit any worse than shit. |
| I want to continue listening "onii chan" I can not stand the chinese voice and its damn strange names |
| Well if japan starts to think about quality then mass produce short non completed IMO moeharem shit. Many studios still work good and make good shows. Also try doing more original than manga/novel adaption. Then the viewer can get a conclusion in the end of the show more then "read the ending". If i watch something then I really don´t to read a ending to know the ending. Chinese quality in the art is good I give them that. BUT i can´t stand the language (sorry to you chinese people). Even before i watched anime from there. So if they going to take over i will have to switch over to dub or quit altogether. I would hope more from the korean market IMO. The make good series. |
| No. China is for Wuxia, Japan is for anime. That's how it's supposed to be. That's the natural order of things. |
| These are some bad news. Chinese animation isn't really that good and the same goes with their voice actors, writers and directors. |
  "elles sont bien noires les pensées des nuits blanches"  |
Hoppy said: Wrong.The producer of Kemono Friends just raised a death flag on anime as we know it. Source If you want to save anime and aren't a fan of Chinese anime, start supporting the industry now otherwise we'll be in a future with a lot of meh anime in the future. I do applaud China's effort in trying to make good anime, but everytime I try one out, something's missing or they mixed two genres that shouldn't mix in anime. I fear for the idol genre though. Anime will be taken over by Netflix in a decade. Giant Toblerone will invade animu, so brace yourselves! |
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| Good. Will we ever get bootleg SNES games adapted as anime? |
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| Pls no. I don't want to watch an Anime with crappy names and "not-so-good" dub :/ |
| Hehe Happy New YEar! :D |
ShiroiMuffler said: Jyzal said: It's not like One Piece, Naruto, Bleach or Dragonball uses the same world, power or technique. If those anime are the standard for modern shounen anime then maybe it wouldn't be so bad but those are old, if you're going to compare, compare modern to modern. fyi I have no clue what chinese anime/manga is, just sayin. Their drama industry is booming though, has already overtaken Japan, or maybe there was no competition in the first place. They definitely have the culture and infrastructure to pull off great entertainment. Hmmm, to make it on modern style, let's say there are 30 Anime in this particular anime season, 28 of them are isekai or game fantasy, and the remaining 2 are the different ones. I can easily picture that if China becomes the power house of the anime industry, unless they adapt their political novels like Grand Master Strategist or their imperial themed stories like Princess Wei Yang or To Be A Virtuous Wife which are rare. Korean totally tops the K-Dramas, no competition there, and I would say China does a good job too, especially my favorite drama Nirvana in Fire, japan on the other hand prefers school dramas, lol if there's an anime or a manga with school setting, they'll always use it, except Ouroboros which is actually different. CoolitzHubertXVI said: Guys, will Chinese Anime with Fantasy and Battle/Action genres feature more multiple couples than the Single Male Harem settings in most Japanese Light Novel Battle Anime Adaptations ? Chinese novels: "I'm so Intelligent, Nihilistic and have a Wicked Sense of Humor, oh shit they killed my friend time to brutally murder their whole family and every relative they know, family/trust issues, ancient sensei and god powers, fck japan, I'm so calm and cool, more brutal murders cause they called me bad names, endless recycled chapters, nothin' personnel, drugs, anti gov, those damn yellow monkeys are oppressing us" From: ichii_1 I read that China has more male population than females, so obviously they will favor Battle Anime settings where many males would each be paired with their own respective girls than the Only One-Guy-Monopolizes-All-The-Girls Harem crap from Japan. LOL China has the worst kind of harem novels, there's only few of them with good coupling and most of their stories are harem glorification and rape bullshit, a lot of woman in their novel are one dimensional easy target which are meant to be fucked and to left out for the sake of introducing another one which is just another plot tool, repeating the same bullshit all over again and it's present on more than twenty thousand novels. |
youseikiDec 9, 2017 6:42 AM
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