| Think about it when you tell people you watch anime they equate it to porn (those that know nothing of the genre). Many ecchi series have the negative stereotypes that normal people think of when they hear the term anime ex. "pantie shots," "big titties," "tentacles" (yes many ecchi series use this gag), "excessive nudity," and "lolis." I'm on a college sports team and believe it or not a small amount of the people on the team watch anime (I swim if you wanted to know). It's like 3 guys out of 22 lol. The really good guys on the team (jocks, the best ones) when they hear this guy other than me likes anime. They just make fun of him saying those tropes that I mentioned before. So my question is do you believe that the ecchi genre is a reason that anime will never be taken seriously or become more mainstream? |
| Not any more than hentai already does. |
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| I'm pretty sure anime gives anime a bad name. |
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| No. All anime is equally shit no matter the genre. |
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| Personally it's a double sided answer... Ecchi is widely more seen and accessible... You see ecchi tropes not just by watching them... They're in YouTube videos, memes, social media... So that's what people relate anime to... Hentai isn't as out there because... Well... It's porn... So you won't see hentai in a meme, you'll see ecchi... So ecchi is technically more to blame because it is not R+... More easily consumed by the average person without realization or actual intent... But at the same time ecchi wasn't that huge when anime started, or at least wasn't as graphic as it is now... Hentai created most of the tropes... |
| Who cares about those jocks, best to ignore them imho. Ecchi is fun, normies just don't get it. Anime doesn't need to be more mainstream, we don't need some crazy SJW invading this community! |
| No, it's just an excuse for them to not like anime. Sexual depiction appears in every media, they are just being hypocritical. But obviously I am biased as I never want anime to become mainstream to begin with. |
nbyung09 said: No, it's just an excuse for them to not like anime. Sexual depiction appears in every media, they are just being hypocritical. But obviously I am biased as I never want anime to become mainstream to begin with. What's funny is they all watch game of thrones which is more explicit in it's sexual depictions. |
| Maybe it's still like that in school? It was when I was in, but the number of grunts I know who love ecchi makes me skeptical of this, like, you kill people and you like Kokosuba, nobody is going to say shit, you can like Boku no Pico if you want. When I lived in Georgia it was noticeable, everyone thought anime = hentai and it was annoying but I would just recommend something i thought was fappable, making sure to go into explicit detail and watch as their feeble normie mind grappled with the sexual confusion that comes with lolis, traps, and monster girls. Now, it's getting so mainstream now that it seems like isolated communities that think this. |
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| No, it's probably the most sophisticated and thematically complicated genre. People who think that it gives anime a bad rep don't understand normies that don't watch anime. |
| These ppl just love to generalize it seems. Generalizing is for the lazy ppl who are to stupid to look at the truth. |
| First of all, Ecchi is just a fanservice main stream crap, like the upcoming anime Yuuragi Yuuna Unless the story turns into dark one like rape, netorare, plunder during war, love scenes, and anything which is for mature audience and relevant to the story itself. Well I've seen a lot of Erotica Novels from japan like Pure Love x Insult Complex which is about sex, rape, revenge and yakuzas, a story of a pathetic mc rising as an underground boss, and I don't think eroticas like Pure Love x Insult Complex can be animated even if it has a good plot depicting nudity relevant. So it doesn't matter for me if these Ecchi is something people like, I'm reading a better version of them with a better plot. |
youseikiNov 20, 2017 10:26 PM
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Maneki-Mew said: It's kinda annoying, when you casually say that you like anime and people, who aren't interested in it and also don't know you very well, associate it with drawn tits and ass. That's really not what it means to me and that's not how I want to be seen by others, because that's just not who I am. ^^" I also feel like kinda... not asexual, ofc, but you know, I'm usually far, far away from being horny (besides making dumb jokes for the lolz). So I personally just don't want to deal with too much Ecchi and similar things, which are just included to make you horny or fulfill a viewer's fetish. Tbh, it's just because I don't like to come across it. Eeh, the Ecchi in Magi was already a little bit too strong. Tho I really like Magi. On the other hand, I'm absolutely fine with sexuality, which is portrayed in different ways than Ecchi. So, if I get the chance, I try to explain myself and my view politely / in a way that doesn't make me look like an angry anime fan - hopefully. XD If not, well... happens? XD shouldn't care too much. thats kind of too bad if people who aren't familiar with something associate it with one thing... maybe you should just stop caring? how about that? why does it matter? ok well, you're saying its there to fulfill fetish as if thats bad or something, maybe people like adding their fetishes to their work?... fetishes define us as individuals and sexuality drives the human species, the creator for Monster Musume even recommended to aspiring manga authors to use their fetish... so this idea we have that perversion is a bad thing is retarded when are we going to stop treating perversion like its a bad thing? whats wrong with wanting to think a show is hot? what wrong with wanting to be turned on by a character? im sorry, but theyre not obligated to care if people don't like something, cause no one is forcing the people who don't like certain things in anime to watch anime and for every person bitching, theres another jerking off idk how else to say it |
EcchiGodMamsterNov 20, 2017 10:30 PM
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H-Chroma said: No it doesn’t. But people like you gives bad name to the entire humankind. Maybe you can stop fantasizing about anime girls and valkyrie drive was one of the worst shows I've ever watched. Looking at your favorites get better taste you deviant. Ghost in the shell is the only good thing you have in your favorites. |
BararaqSaiqa said: I'm pretty sure anime gives anime a bad name. You took the words right out of my mouth. |
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sunny_fizzle said: H-Chroma said: No it doesn’t. But people like you gives bad name to the entire humankind. Maybe you can stop fantasizing about anime girls and valkyrie drive was one of the worst shows I've ever watched. Looking at your favorites get better taste you deviant. Ghost in the shell is the only good thing you have in your favorites. this confirms my suspicion yet again of another closet ecchi/fanservice fan, hiding behind "elitist" favorites you know when someone makes a thread like this and then responds this way to people, they have something to hide "loli watchers are all pedophiles"... yeah.. except the person making the thread to tell everyone that .. sure... same basic shit is probably going on here, cause at least you know when someone has a show like Valkyrie Drive in their favourites, that person is being honest |
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| Well ecchi is certainly targeted a lot thats for sure but when American TV also has lots of sexuality it boggles me why its mostly anime that gets hate |
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| Eh. Every medium of entertainment has its platter of trash, particularly when it comes to sexual fanservice. That 'ecchi' is a subsection reserved namely for anime is absurd. Movies aren't devoid of it - neither are advertisements or tv series, music videos, hell, even books aren't safe. It just appears more taboo in anime because, to an outsider, it's essentially cartoon sixteen-year-olds shaking their ass and disproportionately huge tiddies around. Just as you wouldn't judge an entire genre based on one shitty movie, I think the same should be said for ecchi. It does exist and it serves its purpose fine, but it shouldn't come as much surprise to society, seeing as this sort of thing has always existed in media, especially in recent times. |
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EcchiKingMamster said: Mamster stop pretending like he has something to hide just because he insulted an ecchi sunny_fizzle said: this confirms my suspicion yet again of another closet ecchi/fanservice fan, hiding behind "elitist" favoritesMaybe you can stop fantasizing about anime girls and valkyrie drive was one of the worst shows I've ever watched. Looking at your favorites get better taste you deviant. Ghost in the shell is the only good thing you have in your favorites. you know when someone makes a thread like this and then responds this way to people, they have something to hide "loli watchers are all pedophiles"... yeah.. except the person making the thread to tell everyone that .. sure... same basic shit is probably going on here, cause at least you know when someone has a show like Valkyrie Drive in their favourites, that person is being honest sure he could be hiding something by the smallest of chance but its more so likely he just likes to insult others or belittle them |
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EcchiKingMamster said: sunny_fizzle said: Maybe you can stop fantasizing about anime girls and valkyrie drive was one of the worst shows I've ever watched. Looking at your favorites get better taste you deviant. Ghost in the shell is the only good thing you have in your favorites. this confirms my suspicion yet again of another closet ecchi/fanservice fan, hiding behind "elitist" favorites you know when someone makes a thread like this and then responds this way to people, they have something to hide "loli watchers are all pedophiles"... yeah.. except the person making the thread to tell everyone that .. sure... same basic shit is probably going on here, cause at least you know when someone has a show like Valkyrie Drive in their favourites, that person is being honest Preach it, Ecchi Lover should love what they want, if only the anime companies make a decent erotica... well that would fall to hentai category. Honestly I don't have qualms about the shit taste of Japan supporting these kind of things, though if they can only balanced their shit anime and decent anime production, then the industry could have been better. Seeing some studio like Manglobe and Artland who gives quality animes has gone bankrupt have reminded studios that shit anime makes money. Idealism and quality is fine, but Japan itself needs stress reliever, not a heavy story that adds more stress to their body, and Absurd Ecchi animes is one of them that relieves their stress. |
youseikiNov 20, 2017 11:29 PM
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| Nah ecchi is the reason most people buy blu ray and stuff. Every genre gives a bad name. |
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| idk but MAL gives anime a bad name. =^) |
| Just as much regular shit anime as there are ecchi, I think the anime=porn bs is just "outrageous" because the west doesn't have that kind of content. Let the ignorant be oblivious. |
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It's like 3 guys out of 22 lol On the other hand, 19 out of 22 watches hentai. There's really nothing wrong with Ecchi series; the only problem I can probably think of would be those who always will make a big deal out of it like,"FUCK ANIME IS EVERYTHING LIKE FANSERVICE/ECCHI AND IT'S DEFINITELY RUINING ANIME!" In my opinion Ecchi is a very good name, in fact we might as well just rename AD---> Ecchi/Fanservice Board Discussion and be done with it to shave the 99% of threads made by users about ecchi/fanservice thread... :/ That'd be a good forum board, I do hope others would share their loli waifus @Illyricus Mamster is already here... fufufu.... |
| Haters gonna hate. Why even care?! They are blaming ecchi, but if it wasn't there, they'd blame violence. And why even talk to the uninitiated. Its not like their opinion is gonna change. |
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| Nah. Anime fans diss anime more than non anime fans. Anime fans be like: Gosh. Weebs and perversiom. I am A NORMAL FAN!!!!!! Makes me shake my head everytime. |
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| If people who don't know anything about anime are jumping to prejudiced conclusions then... well I don't really care in the first place. Not like their input means much when it's based on nothing but rumors anyway |
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| Why ecchi when there are tons of doujin materials for a normie to jack off |
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| Nope, the people give anime a bad name. |
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| Well, there are two sides to the same discussion: First side, the existence of ecchi animes gives bad name to all animes, because people who don't know animes very well allways reference the ecchi ones when critisizing. Second side, people who don't watch animes don't care to know more about the media to be able to have a wise opinion. |
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| I personally don't watch ecchi because the female characters are the ones in "ecchi form". If there was a thing as "ecchi for male characters", I'd definitely watch it. But to make fun of someone's tastes is very sad. I have a saying "don't shit in someone's tastes because it's not your business". Ecchi doesn't give anime a bad name. Non anime loving people that make fun of people watching anime are just uncultured swines. I bet their internet search history would make my eyes bleed. |
| I'm pretty sure the obvious conclusion is that your frustrations should probably lie with the people being ignorant on the topic rather than getting mad at the topic for those people being ignorant about it. At least that's the way people who make use of this line of logic and try to put it forth as an actual argument of sorts could handle this, without operating under the rather childlike delusion that tossing out the blame to a type of content for people being ignorant on it isn't a completely irrational behavior. And even worse, it just makes it come across more as narrative-spinning against a type of content that has the sheer audacity not to appeal to them, knowing the kind of people that tend to flock to AD at least, or just outright misdirected anger in the event they're being genuine about it and don't have some ulterior motive. I can't see one thread of credibility towards getting mad at ecchi for people like the one OP talks about existing. Shitpost thread is a shitpost thread, though, so not much can be done about that. A lack of decent reasoning seems pretty integral to these things. |
ManabanNov 21, 2017 4:27 AM
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| Sword Art Online. It perpetuated the stereotype of tentacle rapey scenes as 'what anime basically is'. |
Cladocera said: Doriana_1986 said: Free! is always there for you.If there was a thing as "ecchi for male characters", I'd definitely watch it. Also try: Junjou Romantica Gravitation Ugh I'm kinda off-topic and you didn't actually asking for recommendations... but well, what else should I do in a shitpost thread? But to make fun of someone's tastes is very sad. I have a saying "don't shit in someone's tastes because it's not your business". Ecchi doesn't give anime a bad name. Non anime loving people that make fun of people watching anime are just uncultured swines. I bet their internet search history would make my eyes bleed. Agree, sometimes people are quite hypocritical. Thank you very much @Cladocera! Free! here I come! :) |
Maneki-Mew said: EcchiKingMamster said: thats kind of too bad if people who aren't familiar with something associate it with one thing... maybe you should just stop caring? how about that? why does it matter? That's my second thought. I dunno. It's natural that you want to be liked by the (some) people around you and at first, you would prefer, if people get the right picture of you? are you serious? so those are the kind of people you want to associate with? people who are going to make a big deal out of the fact that you watch something that they don't like? if someone thinks im a loser or creepy or WHATEVER, because i like perverte anime... Maneki-Mew said: And I thought my personality traits, priority and moral system and my relationships with other people define me. XD You are not wrong either, because it's a part of humans. But it's a smaller part (in comparison). It's also a small part what you like or dislike otherwise/non-sexual. If it's a big part for you, it's because of YOUR personal priority system, not everyone else's. And I think, you should be, as an author, professional enough to keep them to a minimum. There is porn and there is actual Ecchi. You could include that there, not casually in other shows. Tag it and everything is fine. So at least, I know what it will be. xD your fetishes are part of your personality and moral system... what gets you off is always going to affect your actions in some way, even if not sexual well, thats just like, your opinion, mam... and how many times has it been mentioned that japan doesn't label anime as ecchi or hentai, WE do? if an anime is full of fanservice and lacks the ecchi tag, then blame the WESTERNER who didn't give the anime the label and if an author wants boobs and panties in his anime, then he should put boobs and panties in his anime, it shouldnt matter what the anime is about.. just because an author decides to make a story that doesn't center around something he likes, doesn't mean he can't add that something he likes to it, its his choice if this is your reaction to fanservice in anime, i don't get it, why do you watch these shows? you know guys are into this kind of stuff and its guys theyre targeting Mod Edit: Removed quote of deleted post. |
NoLiferSoulNov 23, 2017 9:25 AM
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| I bet that people consider anime porn because of ecchi shows. So we can say that ecchi is misrepresenting and distorting anime's reputation. But who cares ? This genre is heavily loved and really profitable. why would they stop producing it ? That's not a convincing reason. Anime is hated because of crazy weebs,ecchi is just a small reason among huge reasons. |
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| Those people are just ignorant buffoons. And isn't anime growing in popularity anyway? I'd say it's close to leaving it's niche spot. And I have mentioned this before. They discriminate escapism, that they deny that some people doesn't see the same view as "2D tits>3D tits" and just made a prejudiced conclusion that anime is nothing but for kids. But isn't entertainment subjective in the first place? Who gives a fuck for what I enjoy? I like it cause I had fun. |
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EcchiKingMamster said: Im not pretending. Im looking at the thread itself. He isn't displaying any shame. He is just asking a question. Or you saying people don't look down on Anime do to its sexual content?Deknijff said: and you can stop acting like people don't make these kinds of threads out of shameMamster stop pretending like he has something to hide just because he insulted an ecchi sure he could be hiding something by the smallest of chance but its more so likely he just likes to insult others or belittle them But I agree with @Manaban that we should look at the hypocritical mindset of the outsiders who make fun of fans for liking something with a lot of this content. Im not seeing why he said the OP is frustrated though. But Mamster before you start acting all triggered as you say perhaps you should take a step back and see what he is saying and why. In the OP he is just wondering if ecchi is perhaps the reason anime fans who he happens to know are made fun of due to his own experience. No harm in asking that Now when you called him out for hiding his shame just because he insult a ecchi show I want to point out your inability to see context in its most obvious state. He clearly insulted it just because its a fav of someone who just insulted him first. So please stop acting like a man child |
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