Voice actress Caitlin Grass: "If an anime hasn't been licensed where you live... you're not allowed to watch it!"

Swagernator said:
Good to know all that, madam voice actress, but i don't give a shit about you. Same as anime industry about me.


People like Anime "Voice actors" outside of Japan need to cease to exist.

kuuderes_shadow said:
What is in the quotes is true. You might not like it. You might choose to break the rules and watch it anyway. But that doesn't make it any less true.

I can't find where she actually said that, though.

isekai said:
well its understandable since she works in the anime industry that just cares about more profit (capitalism at its finest)

does not stop me from pirating though since i like modern robin hood (socialism) by the pirates

Comic_Sans said:
No, it isn't. If I choose to watch a shitty yaoi OVA that was released fifteen years ago by a company that later went bankrupt then nobody is going to give a shit

kuuderes_shadow said:


Yes how dare someone care about the ability for the industry in which they work to survive.

And I think you have some sort of fundamental misunderstanding about both Robin Hood and what socialism is.

kuuderes_shadow said:
You like posting irrelevant stuff and pretending it counteracts what the person you are arguing with said, don't you?

Firstly, that hypothetical scenario is completely unrelated to the topic at hand,

and secondly even if noone cares about the rules (which quite obviously is not the case in the situation that is the actual topic of the thread, if you remember what that was) then it does not change the fact that it is against the rules.

isekai said:

robin hood is like redistributing wealth so he kinda is a socialist

Comic_Sans said:
The rules can be wrong.

fuyuki said:
Come on, she's just butthurt cause no one wants to hear shitty American voice acting so she's not getting paid.

kuuderes_shadow said:
Yes, but they are still the rules, so when talking about whether you are allowed to do something or not they are still what counts.

fuyuki said:
Come on, she's just butthurt cause no one wants to hear shitty American voice acting so she's not getting paid.

kuuderes_shadow said:


Somewhat off-topic here, but:
Robin Hood was about a yeoman-turned-outlaw who stole money from rich travellers and gave money to poor ones.
Piracy is about taking from anyone (rich or poor) and then hoarding it to yourself. Or in the case of some forms of internet "piracy", distributing it around to anyone (rich or poor) who wants to take it.
Socialism is a socio-economic system, that doesn't support either of these things.

Comic_Sans said:
And I don’t care about them. Why should I?

kuuderes_shadow said:
You might not like it. You might choose to break the rules and watch it anyway. But that doesn't make it any less true.

kuuderes_shadow said:
Yeah, I think that just about sums up the thread as far as I'm concerned.

The rules can be wrong.

Comic_Sans said:
No, it doesn’t, becauseWith your logic pretty much anything, from child marriage to spousal rape, can be justified as long as ”it’s the rules”.

fuyuki said:
Come on, she's just butthurt cause no one wants to hear shitty American voice acting so she's not getting paid.

kuuderes_shadow said:
If child marriage is within the rules of where you live then it is allowed. If it is not within the rules then it is not allowed.

Whether or not something is allowed has nothing to do with whether I believe it to be morally correct or justified. There are plenty of things that are illegal - which is to say not allowed - in my country that I believe should be legal - which is to say allowed - and vice versa. Under the society we live in one's personal moral convictions does not determine what one is or is not allowed to do.

Why am I even having to have this argument? It should be obvious to anyone with a basic grasp of English.

PizzaOnPineapple said:
Soooo why is her opinion of any importance again?

Comic_Sans said:
So you're in favor of child marriage as long as the law allows it? That's good to know.And why am I not allowed to argue against something just because it's the law when I have already demonstrated that the rules can be wrong?Obvious in your little world, yes. That doesn't mean everybody else views this issue the same way as you.

kuuderes_shadow said:
I have nothing more to say to someone who makes statements in response to one line of the post which would be not just answered but shown to be incredulously stupid by reading the following line of the same post that is being quoted.

Your every post is filled with shoving words in my mouth that I not only did not say but which I specifically stated that I was not saying and where my entire point was a repudiation of the very argument you are claiming that I am making.

This entire thread is bordering on libel, anyway, given that it all started by you putting words into the mouth of Caitlin Grass which you haven't provided any evidence that she ever actually said.

Ya-Shiro said:


btw @Kuuderes_Shadow
whats your personal opinion on this matter?

Scarlett_ryuken said:
i like that american anime fans are parasitic and entitled quote tbh
thats all i came here for peace

GangsterCat said:
must be tough being american with the hourly reminder of rules this rules that lol

2015071 said:
Tbh privacy itself is not the problem itself, but rather the resultant of the problem itself, which in the case, is the lack of proper streaming services. I live in a place where only one legit streaming site provides the most current anime to stream but even then they only stream only 2~3 animes per season. Due to this I was forced to watch all the newest anime on illegitimate websites with accurate translated subs, and a tight uploading schedule a 12 hours behind the airing time at Japan! AND IT'S TOTALLY FREE!!! WHAT A F**KING BARGAIN!!!
If Japan wants to stop people pirating their weeaboo trash, they should allow more streaming services to stream all their anime, just like the gaming industry with their online digital distribution softwares like steam. Ever Since having steam installed on my computer, I have never ever in my life used utorrent to torrent a single game from the internet and found steam is a convenient and safe place to get all the latest aaa games and indie gems like undertale, without the hassle of buying dvds from a store and some storage for these disks and their packaging, or downloading from sites asking you to do a free survey. If we don't have to endure the lack of legit streams for anime, wait for mangas and light novels to be translated god knows how long, then we would have paid for services due to convenience! So please distribute more of your weeaboo trash Japan .

kuuderes_shadow said:


On the matter of whether it's morally acceptable to illegally watch series that are not legally available where you live? I used to do it myself, so I certainly understand the reasoning behind it, and it would be hypocritical of me to start getting preachy and telling others that they're wrong for doing it. Which is why I very deliberately avoided doing exactly that, even though I can also understand the arguments against the practice.
The reason why I've largely stopped, though, is thanks to the big increase in the stuff that is legally available here in the UK, and I'm firmly of the opinion that as many series as possible should be made available to watch in as many places as possible, and the best way to make this the case is of course to support legal sources that do exist at every opportunity.