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Sep 23, 2017 5:24 PM
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Ah, the ever cunning Freiza with his manipulative ideas...

The way that he tortured and beat down Jimeze was something that I completely expected from him. Gohan's disgust at him was pretty evident this episode as well.

Golden Frieza vs Gohan~
Screw Frost this episode. He deserved that elimination by Frieza.
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Sep 23, 2017 6:14 PM
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I KNEW IT. The moment the close-up on Gohans face showed on screen, I knew they were faking the fight. Man I'm loving Frieza more and more. Gohan and Frieza teaming up... Who would've thought that would ever happen back in the day lol. And Frost got the delete for being an idiot xD
Sep 23, 2017 6:41 PM
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Beat his ass Gohan! Just not really. XD
Sep 23, 2017 6:49 PM
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Frieza thank goodness I was fooled/trolled in the end. And Frost getting his butt erased/deleted. Ha! What a joke! XD
Sep 23, 2017 7:06 PM
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The surprise just didn't present when they made it too obvious that Gohan and Freiza were up to something.

Zeno straight up erased Frost on the spot was unexpected.

Hyped for the 1-hour special. Not sure how in the world Goku could pull off a spirit bomb in the mid of fighting someone like Jiren. Jiren doesn't seem like he is chill enough to let his enemy charge that giant attack.

Also excited to see the new ending theme in that special. I am also expecting a tweak to the opening sequence (probably showing the universes' fighters instead of blacking their faces out) since it marks the beginning of the fall season of anime.


This episode further proven my theory of the super dragon ball's creator being one of the top 5 gods. His creation is located in 2 universes (6 & 7) => he has control over at least 2 universes unlike the gods of destruction. Now Whis confirmed that the super dragon has the power to even erase a god like Beerus.
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Sep 23, 2017 7:17 PM
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Blue F are amateur compare to other remain good thing Frieza don't dere because Blue F just like himself.

And Goku don't give a shit anymore to Master Roshi totally into that Teletubbies and still going until next.
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Sep 23, 2017 7:18 PM
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Damn I love Frieza. Knew that he was pulling his punches when Gohan reacted to his first attack, and his deceptiveness and conniving attitude never disappoints. Also love how quick and easily Frost was erased.

Looks like the real hype train starts next week.
Sep 23, 2017 7:21 PM
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RIP Frost .. you did well xD. Hella excited for next episode, it's kinda confirmed that Goku's gonna use spirit bomb outta no where but dont know how he is gonna pull it off.
Sep 23, 2017 7:27 PM
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Freeza trolling us was kind of expected xD Poor Frost, not only he was betrayed, eliminated and humilliated... He was erased by Zeno LOL

For the next episode you can see all the possible hype for DBS climax. Waiting for it is going to be a torture similar to Freeza's xD
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Sep 23, 2017 7:54 PM
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lol Frost got erased by Zeno, serves him right

that Yardrat guy uses Instant Transmission so well too bad he lost

and now its time for Jiren to fight Goku, that genki-dama of Goku will be useless against Jiren The Grey anyway
Sep 23, 2017 8:02 PM
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Well Frost was an amateur that's for sure. Frieza's a pro at what he does.

I really enjoyed seeing Frieza be all savage and totally wrecked Jimeze. And the whole Gohan vs Frieza fight was epic. Frieza even went Golden which was so cool to see. Even if they weren't at full power, it was a cool fight nonetheless.

Frieza teaching Frost how to transform to 100% full power buff form reminded me of Vegeta showing Cabba SSB. I think the lines may have been similar. Something like "You too can have this power if you train".
I was hoping Frieza was gonna take out Frost in his Golden form but seeing the Buff form was also pretty cool.

And thus Frost is erased. lol

Hype for next episode o/

Sep 23, 2017 8:18 PM

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Lol we got really trolled,but not as hard as Frost xD still kind of a let down, their coperation was teased and then nothing came from this.. it was obvious that one would betray the other,but not so random and anticlimatic.

The whole drama for nothing, Frost could've been beaten last episode and this one used for something better..I also don't think that Frieza will have some kind of change now or that Gohan really starts to trust him.

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Sep 23, 2017 8:22 PM

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Lol Frost just took the biggest L in Dragon Ball History. XD
Sep 23, 2017 8:31 PM
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so no episode next week according to sources damn, but on october 8 its a 1 hour special though
Sep 23, 2017 10:34 PM

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Well Frieza wrecking Frost was nice.
Sep 23, 2017 10:44 PM

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I really can't trust Frieza as he is really unpredictable but i know only that he just fight for himself.
Anyway this was a good episode and i really can't wait for the 2 episodes coming in the 2 weeks.So next week no DBS since there is going to have 2 episodes of One Piece
Sep 23, 2017 10:45 PM

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isekai said:
so no episode next week according to sources damn, but on october 8 its a 1 hour special though

It's just only going to be about 45 mins without the commercials.
Sep 23, 2017 11:30 PM
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Good shit. Solid fucking episode.
Sep 24, 2017 12:08 AM
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Other than gohan having trouble against a small fry and goku continuing to hold back against fatty for who knows how many episodes straight this was a pretty good episode
Frieza seems much more reasonable than the other fighters and the people on the dais to be honest
Sep 24, 2017 12:44 AM
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I still don't understand how the alliance between Frost and Freeza was supposed to work, because at the end of the day, one of them would have to be erased (along his universe), no ?

Anyway, as usual, a lot of stuff hapening does not really make sense :

- Freeza "saving" gohan from the instant transmission user, just to attack Gohan after (if he was really going against universe 7, why save gohan at all ?)
- Gohan who is getting wrecked does not even go super sayan ? (even Freeza found it stupid),
- Why the instant transmission user can teleport where he wants when Goku can only teleport near someone ?
- Why freeza had no trouble at all dealing with the instant transmission ?

And above all... Why go to all this trouble (of faking) just to get rid of frost... when frost is not a real threat ? Freeza can destroy him with one hit even in a "true" fight. Vegeta destroyed him with one hit in super sayan...

PS : They should just stop showing goku fighting when the fight is at a standstill.

Sep 24, 2017 1:28 AM

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The first half was bad and I seriously hope Ribrianne will be done for. She is just an annoying nuisance. Second half was definitely better with Friea basically trolling everyone except Gohan once he received that first punch. RIP Frost.
Sep 24, 2017 1:54 AM

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Rukodaime said:

Anyway, as usual, a lot of stuff hapening does not really make sense :

- Gohan who is getting wrecked does not even go super sayan ? (even Freeza found it stupid),
- Why the instant transmission user can teleport where he wants when Goku can only teleport near someone ?
- Why freeza had no trouble at all dealing with the instant transmission ?

PS : They should just stop showing goku fighting when the fight is at a standstill.


I only quote the ones I can answer.
-Gohan managed to get his strength back due to his training, which means this is his ultimate form, probably. He didn't go SSJ in DBZ either, after he got his "ultimate buff". So he doesn't need his SSJ form anymore, which sounds stupid to me. If this really is his ultimate form, then he's a weakling. It's sad.
-Goku can teleport through the universe, if he wants to, and if someone's releasing just enough energy to sense them. (see frieza arc. Gohan was a beacon). He just rarely uses this technique, because it'd be boring to watch him spamming it, also he doesn't have time to use it anymore, since his opponents are so fast. (It happened in Dyspo vs Goku fight). By the way, I think during the Goku vs "purple Vegeta" filler there was a scene where he spammed this technique.
-Frieza is fast enough to make the "casting time" of the instant transmission look too long. Same as Dyspo vs Goku fight.

I find that Frieza-Frost alliance just something to fill some episodes with, just like many other things. It made no sense. And yeah, why even bother to show Goku, if he doesnt do anything?

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Anyways, it was an ok episode. Now we gotta wait 2 weeks, but I'm sure it'll be worth it. Also excited for the opening tweaks. I'm pretty sure it's going to be changed a bit, because of Goku's new form, etc. I just wonder what's going to happen by the end of the tournament, since Goku and Jiren will have a climatic battle in the next episodes. Maybe something even better happens?

31 combatants left btw.
Sep 24, 2017 1:59 AM

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Well that was a bit anti-climactic ending for Frost. Wanted to see more of him and Freeza together, but getting straight on erased without warning was savage!
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Sep 24, 2017 2:29 AM

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well frieza is cunning as ever...I am still thinking he has something up his sleeve...how the hell is only one minute passed this entire episode...i what baFFLED ME THE MOST
Sep 24, 2017 2:36 AM

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well frieza is cunning as ever...I am still thinking he has something up his sleeve...how the hell is only one minute passed this entire episode...i what baFFLED ME THE MOST


You think when one fight (one episode) happens then time stops for all other fighters? lol

No, it's always going forward but episode can show only one event at a time
Sep 24, 2017 3:31 AM

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That was one hell of a plot twist, Frieza still can't be trusted tho.
Next ep looks pretty interesting.
Sep 24, 2017 3:34 AM

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Lol, Frieza tricked me.
I hope those love warriors disappear already, they are too ugly to exist.
Sep 24, 2017 5:57 AM

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aahhh Frieza's Greatness!
Sep 24, 2017 6:34 AM

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Thank God Frost is out of the tournament and even better, Hes erased lol.

and i cant seem to be able to tell when is Gohan using his Mystic Form.
I though the Yardat was owning Ultimate Gohan, Thank god that wasnt the case.
8/10 episode
Sep 24, 2017 7:15 AM

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I feel like the writers are failing pretty badly at making me hate Frost. I mean, he's not a likable character, but I just don't hate him either. He's just poorly written. He's like Baby in GT; there's potential, but the writers screw it up with their cookie cutter formula fiction ideas of what a villain should be. The fact, that he was using poison and tricks to fight godlike foe's was actually pretty great in my opinion. I'd much rather root for a character, who does all that's at his disposal then someone like Goku and Vegeta with their godly power ups, that come in 3 different colours, but hardly any distinguishable differences in performance other than the declarative "power level"-bullshit.

Also; another "hey universe 6 my "transformation" is bigger than yours"-scene. Just what we needed.

So I guess Frost is erased now? That was a pretty nonchalant way to do it.

Gohan VS Frieza was pretty disappointing, but atleast the excuse is, that it wasn't a serious fight at all. To be honest though, I don't get what Frieza's scheming was about. He really didn't need to do it to grab a hold of Frost. He could probably telecinetically grab Frost, when he's guard was off while Frost was doing his scheme. You know, like how he killed Krillin back in the day. I guess Frieza likes his sadistic games, so fair enough. But I never considered Frieza to be into roleplaying.
Sep 24, 2017 11:21 AM

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Next time, Genki dama! Wooo!

Freeza and Frost looks retarded in their 100% form.


Frost lost like a looser.
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Sep 24, 2017 11:43 AM
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loool frost got snaked haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard.
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Sep 24, 2017 12:52 PM

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I knew there was something more to it when I saw Gohan's reaction. At least Frieza is not that much of a douchebag. It would be a stupid move by him anyway.
Sep 24, 2017 4:38 PM

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At the beginning I wasn't sure because you can never be sure about the things Freezer wants to do. But the moment when the time freezed a little bit and they showed Gohans face during the clash I knew something is wrong.

Frost got fooled so much by Freezer but he deserved to get kicked out this way. Zeno didn't even hesitate to obliterate him after Frost tried to attack Freezer.

With that Freezer makes it pretty interesting. Let's what he plans next.

Meanwhile Goku fighting with Ribrianne. I don't really like all this love thing but oh well.

Next episode will be the special right? God damn that will be so good. Haven't seen a Genkidama in forever :o

Sep 24, 2017 7:00 PM

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Wow Jiren looks scary af in the preview! He about to handle dat shit with not even breaking a sweat!@#
Sep 24, 2017 9:16 PM

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that preview though.
Sep 24, 2017 11:33 PM
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Finally we got some Frieza, and it was worth it!
Sep 25, 2017 6:47 AM
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God I'm starting to love Frieza more and more as this arc progresses.
Sep 25, 2017 5:34 PM

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LOL called it! Frieza wouldn't work with a pleb.
Sep 26, 2017 4:47 PM

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Seeing ZenOh erase Frost easily proves that he doesn't need to be a fighter to take someone out.
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Sep 26, 2017 4:55 PM
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Seeing ZenOh erase Frost easily proves that he doesn't need to be a fighter to take someone out.


No shit sherlock.
Sep 26, 2017 6:33 PM
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This was an interesting episode. The bits of Goku vs Ribrianne were alright albeit nonproductive, just the fact Goku is still in base does nothing to really make it seem like it will be an intense fight but it was nice to hear some of the other gods again for the first time in who knows how long. Their fight still has potential but it just feels too much like a way to preoccupy Goku until Jiren decides to step in to fight.

Gohan vs that Universe 3 warrior seemed like it could have been interesting but it ended as soon as it started, which was a shame. I find it odd that Piccolo was nowhere to be found this episode, I know that I wanted them to be separate so they could do their own things but to not even acknowledge how Gohan and Piccolo ended up randomly splitting up after insisting on keeping them joined to the hip for most of the tournament was jarring to say the least. I knew the episode would focus more on Frieza and Frost's shenanigans but Gohan vs Jimeze was a lot smaller a fight than I would have expected. Frieza was quite dominant and brutal in finishing off Jimeze, who unfortunately did nothing to show off more Yardrat moves aside from the Instant Transmission. Frieza had a point when he was criticizing Gohan about his poor performance, he isn't really one to speak given how much of a spectacle he made out of his own transformations back in Namek, but Gohan's lack of use of even the base SSJ form is disappointing, understandable since he's trying to focus on improving his Ultimate form but using SSJ would have been an easy enough way to power up without revealing too much of his hand, even though he already used Ultimate a few episodes back. I'm not really fond of how they seem to have made the whole 'staying in base for too long and not powering up quick enough' a Saiyan quirk, attributing their faults to their species rather to them as individuals seems like an excuse to try and justify why they take such a needlessly complicated approach against characters in this tournament that aren't even a real challenge to them.

I have to admit Frieza has been an absolute joy to watch during this arc, I don't recall enjoying him nearly as much during his own arcs as I am here. Frost referring to Frieza as senpai was funnier than it should have been but it'll be interesting to see this dubbed since iirc their VAs are brothers. The small bits of Ultimate Gohan vs Golden Frieza was nice for what it was, even though it wasn't a serious fight at least it helps wash away that bitter taste from Gohan's pitiful performance against 1st Form Frieza back in ROF.

It was surprising to see Frieza use his 100% form again as it was to see Frost use it, I figured the bulking up was just an aftereffect of not mastering their abilities but I guess not. Frieza betraying Frost was very expected but still quite amusing though it was shocking to see Zeno erase Frost so quickly. It was a shame to see Frost go, if only because I still feel he has potential and if he's ever restored I would like for this to open his eyes and serve as a catalyst to make him more decent a person, i.e non-Frieza like. Gohan really got ragdolled this episode but at least seeing through Frieza's facade helped him from looking too bad this episode. Frieza role as a wild card brings a certain kind of depth that this tournament could really benefit from, the way he's playing with the gods has a lot of potential to be amusing. I think this is the first time Frieza has referred to Gohan by his name.

The special coming up in a few weeks seems promising, the much hyped Goku vs Jiren, SSB Kaioken x20 and Goku's new Limit Form are sure to be a delight.
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Sep 26, 2017 9:05 PM
Again, Zeno erasing Frost is the only good thing about the episode...Still I 'm waiting the blood in the series to feel anything, rather than just some normal beating...Anyway, bad episode 2/5
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Sep 27, 2017 4:47 AM

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Ribrianne and her fat ass need to get their love and fuck off.
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Sep 27, 2017 8:29 AM

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1/5 for this episode because of how it ended


would've been 5/5 if All Might stopped them in the end no matter how hard they tried


Smaaaaaaaaaaaashu ... WIN

Writing almost equal to that of Dragon Ball... Goku kamehame = win ... or spirit bomb

screw this ...
Sep 27, 2017 11:32 PM
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SOMEBODY ELIMINATE THAT BITCH RIBRIANNE. SHE BEEN BLOCKING GOKU FOR TWO DAMN EPISODES NOW!
Sep 28, 2017 12:58 PM

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Hahaha Zen chan sure acts quickly, bye bye Frost
And we gonna see the spirit bomb all of a sudden I think it will be a lousy one.
Sep 30, 2017 1:10 PM

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No episode this week, next week 1 hour special.
Sep 30, 2017 10:05 PM
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new preview for the next episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FITSEziATCs
Oct 1, 2017 12:52 PM

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This teletubbie bitch is so annoying
Zen-Oh just erased frost with a hand gesture that's scary.


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