| Advanced search is giving me threads that has nothing to do with what I'm trying to search for. I noticed it a while earlier, but ignored it since I was only doing one word searches, but something this precise and all that..... not to mention, the thread I was searching for isn't in the list. |
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| Afaik (or at least as far as I noticed) the search only seems to search the thread titles (not the whole posts in the tread). Apparently it seems to search all the different words you put in the search box with "OR". Meaning if any (at least 1) appears in a thread title it will return that thread. And it will only return threads (not possible to show posts and searching for a user only gets you to their last post in that thread). Try to search only for "asleep" maybe - in your example. Words like "have" and "anime" (while searching in an anime forum like MAL) should get too many results. Should find you only threads with "asleep" in the thread title where you posted (if you search for user name = your name). Edit 1: Thread you were searching ... might be one of the thread that isn't show. I think search results are limited to a max amount and since you get too many other wrong results ... Yeah ... search on MAL really is bad. There even have been suggestions in the suggestions board on how to improve it. Edit 2: I checked/tried. Seems it also searches posts? With only your username + asleep I could find 1 thread where the asleep did not appear in the thread title. The thread you were searching ... I can only find it if I search without your username. Probably it hasn't enoug time passed yet since you posted there first. Takes some time until stuff appears in search. |
LuthandoriusOct 17, 2016 9:08 AM
@yhunata You are doing it wrong , lol i didn't even need to write whole sentence  |
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| @AllenVonStein No, I'm not. The reason I advance search with the full thread title is to see whether or not I've posted in the thread before. Having to go through a bunch of thread titles only to see that the thread I'm searching for is not there is a waste of time. And my main problem is that the search function was working perfectly just a few days ago. If I searched using the full title of the thread and only that thread would come up. So either an update glitched up the advance search or this is the update itself (unlikely, considering there's no announcement). ----- @Luthandorius Before I searched for that thread, I was searching for my old posts. Searching using only the word "Discussion" brought up barely a few threads with the word "Discuss" (not "discussion"). This, despite the fact that I have posted in quite a few episode/chapter discussions, which should take priority. And again, it was working perfectly just a few days ago. |
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| Not sure if it's the same problem, but I just tried to search my recent posts through the "Forum Posts" profile link and threads from the Series Discussion (Episode/Chapter discussions) were not returned, despite being most of what I comment on. |
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| This is what I'm talking about: |
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Tulicloure said: Not sure if it's the same problem, but I just tried to search my recent posts through the "Forum Posts" profile link and threads from the Series Discussion (Episode/Chapter discussions) were not returned, despite being most of what I comment on. I am not sure, but think to remember that series/volume discussions are not taken into account for "[user] forum posts". Which is probably yet another reason why series discussion for anime from last season or older are so dead. It may or may not be like this for "forum games", too - only have vague memories about it. Moreover, it will only show 50 last topics it knows about, and it does not know about very recent posts/ will take about a day before it recognises posts. All in all, the forum search is very rudimentary. So much that for some searches (content) I prefer to use google with site:myanimelist.net [searchterm] Sadly, that way I can not use "search by user" nor restrict the search to some certain section of MAL forums. :| |
| *darn, using my right hand is off-limits for a while. Typing with my left hand only is ... eww.* |
| @BannoBunka_snork can confirm that Episode/Chapter Discussions definitely used to come up on advanced search. The forum search function really needs some more attention. We could do with sorting, searching withing a specific thread for all our posts (mangafox has this, if I remember correct). Alternatively, can't we just get a button next to the thread title to show that we have posted in it already? It was tedious enough to advance search it before, its even more a pain now. |
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BannoBunka_snork said: Tulicloure said: Not sure if it's the same problem, but I just tried to search my recent posts through the "Forum Posts" profile link and threads from the Series Discussion (Episode/Chapter discussions) were not returned, despite being most of what I comment on. I am not sure, but think to remember that series/volume discussions are not taken into account for "[user] forum posts". Which is probably yet another reason why series discussion for anime from last season or older are so dead. It may or may not be like this for "forum games", too - only have vague memories about it. Moreover, it will only show 50 last topics it knows about, and it does not know about very recent posts/ will take about a day before it recognises posts. All in all, the forum search is very rudimentary. So much that for some searches (content) I prefer to use google with site:myanimelist.net [searchterm] Sadly, that way I can not use "search by user" nor restrict the search to some certain section of MAL forums. :| As limited as it is (they really should improve this function), I'm absolutely sure it used to work fine until a few days ago. I constantly use that link from the profile to find my latest comments, and I mostly post on the Series Discussion section. EDIT: Also, the results used to be returned ordered from most recent last comment to oldest last comment. Now it seems to follow some other logic (if any). Since we can't really ask for more results, maybe the ones we're missing are still there, but further down the list? |
TulicloureOct 18, 2016 9:18 AM
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| Damn! Some shit happened to me as well. Look at my advanced posts search. My posts are all in Locked Threads for some reason (in the display beggining) pls Also, the "Last Post" section are glitched too. pls |
| Today they say you're crazy, tomorrow they will say you're a genious. |
BannoBunka_snork said: That bit is incorrect. I mostly use advanced search to find posts by other users or myself on various episode and/or chapter discussion threads, and like other posters before me, I too can confirm it was working just fine until a couple days ago.Tulicloure said: Not sure if it's the same problem, but I just tried to search my recent posts through the "Forum Posts" profile link and threads from the Series Discussion (Episode/Chapter discussions) were not returned, despite being most of what I comment on. I am not sure, but think to remember that series/volume discussions are not taken into account for "[user] forum posts". Not sure what happened but the feature is completely messed up now. It's returning results that most of the time do not correspond to the keywords I entered, and are ordered in a completely random fashion. |
SapewlothOct 18, 2016 11:49 AM
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| yhunata, Tulicloure, Sapewloth Thanks for correcting me and avoiding confusion spreading from my false information. :thumbsup: And good to learn that at least that was working, once. (now I am worrying about my memory ...) --------------------------- Aaand, now it has hit me, too. Clicking the "forum posts" link from my profile gets me - i am not sure, are those my oldest 50 posts ever, or sth. like that ? I actually use that link relatively often, and I think it was about yesterday when it still worked as expected. |
BannoBunka_snorkOct 18, 2016 4:23 PM
| *darn, using my right hand is off-limits for a while. Typing with my left hand only is ... eww.* |
BannoBunka_snork said: Hopefully we'll get an answer soon enough. I'm afraid the change might be intentional, though (but in that case we should've been informed, at the very least).I actually use that link relatively often, and I think it was about yesterday when it still worked as expected. |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| Up to monday morning (GMT+1), I could "stalk" any new Gundam post in an episode discussion by searching the word in the search window, after selecting "Forum". Yesterday evening, it wasn't working like this anymore: excluding every episode/chapter discussion thread, it only showed threads with the word in the title and starting with the older thread. Sadly, I assume the same as Sapewloth. |
| This is such a huge problem for me, having to like waste time going to Hunter X Hunter (2011) episodes in discussion instead of typing Hunter X Hunter (2011) Episode (Insert #) to find the exact thread instantly and recording my comments. |
| Indeed. I hope we can get an answer from a mod or someone who knows what's going on soon. |
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| The devs are currently working on the backend of the forum search, which will make improving the search and adding new features to it more easier in the future. We're aware that there are some issues with the search right now, the devs are working on it to fix them. |
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| Ah, so it is due to a glitch. Well, at least it's good to know why this was happening, but improvements to the search is an amazing bonus. |
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| Good to know it was just a glitch ; I've always thought the feature could use some improvement anyway so I'm glad to hear the devs are working on it. |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| I just wanted to ask this. Good thing I checked if there's a topic already. But is it possible (or will it be, after the glitch is fixed) to see your posts on the forum? And to view them as posts, not as topics you've been writing in? Like on many other forums. |
 I respect your opinion as long as you respect mine. |
Luna said: The devs are currently working on the backend of the forum search. We're aware that there are some issues with the search right now, the devs are working on it to fix them. Sorry to disturb, but is it still in development? |
| It's been almost two months and nothing's been fixed. Do something about it |
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| I have to agree. At least give us a progress report or something. |
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| Yeah, it'd be nice to have some kind of update on the devs' progress. As things are right now it's like the feature was just half-fixed after being thoroughly messed with, and there's no sign of it going back to normal any time soon. |
SapewlothDec 28, 2016 8:52 PM
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| If you are going to fix this, then I'd go with SphinxSearch. It does an excellent job with things like forums where the postings are stored in a database. The search function here is pretty poor even in comparison to ones like phpBB and vBulletin which aren't that great either. |
| @yhunata With yours, it's the second time we call this person, shall we say the name a third time for a summon ing à la Candyman. More seriously, Luna said: Away until mid-January. Replies will be late. If you need immediate help please contact another staff member. Still, I'd appreciate some hints, even if I'm not a paying user. |
| Or at least give us an update on how things are progressing. @cyruz @Kineta @Luna |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| The backend of the forum search has been changed because the old one had too many limitations on functionality. With the new backend it will be easier to improve the forum search. Some improvements have already been made, for example ignored topics are not shown in search results and you don't have to wait 5 seconds between searches anymore. Unfortunately it seems that fixing the bugs that appeared takes longer than expected, also because there are other tasks that have a high priority. My current information is that the bugs are currently being worked on and that the fixes will probably be released in 1-2 weeks (unless new problems appear). |
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Luna said: Did new problems appear? Because some results the search function is returning are still random and most of the posts that are older than a few months are still unavailable.Unfortunately it seems that fixing the bugs that appeared takes longer than expected, also because there are other tasks that have a high priority. My current information is that the bugs are currently being worked on and that the fixes will probably be released in 1-2 weeks (unless new problems appear). |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| Indeed, the episode discussions are still ignored too. |
| Just saiyan, been almost a month since the "will probably be fixed in 1-2 weeks". Doesn't seem as if there are new problems either, just the same old, same old. |
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| Yeah there are new problems. I will post here when it's fixed. |
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| Just saiyan'; been 5 months and still nothing. 3 since the 1-2 week fix update. |
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| I think it would be best for all of us to simply assume the current situation is the new normal one, and that what we want is just something from the past. ^^ PS: since we don't pay, I guess we don't have much to say. edit @Aquamirror I simply meant that we should stop complaining. ^^ I can get the fact that programming is hard. |
Rei_IIIMar 22, 2017 9:52 AM
| SQL queries are hard bruh |
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| Still no news on this after two months since Luna's last post, huh? Welp, I guess it's time to give up on asking about it, then. |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
Sapewloth said: Still no news on this after two months since Luna's last post, huh? Welp, I guess it's time to give up on asking about it, then. Nothing in the rules says that I can't badger the admins until they give an answer. @Luna |
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yhunata said: Not saying you're wrong for insisting, just not sure they're gonna do something about it any time soon, regardless of our complaints.Sapewloth said: Still no news on this after two months since Luna's last post, huh? Welp, I guess it's time to give up on asking about it, then. Nothing in the rules says that I can't badger the admins until they give an answer. @Luna |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
Sapewloth said: yhunata said: Not saying you're wrong for insisting, just not sure they're gonna do something about it any time soon, regardless of our complaints.Nothing in the rules says that I can't badger the admins until they give an answer. @Luna Then they're gonna have to do with getting annoyed. Every. Single. Day. |
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| Might as well join in, otherwise they're really gonna believe no one cares and won't touch the search function ever again. @Luna please, any news? |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| @yhunata @Rei366 @Sapewloth To be clear, Luna and the other administrative staff (me included) have no control over the dev team. This means we don't fix bugs, we don't decide when current bugs get fixed, and we don't decide how they're fixed. We report problems and give suggestions, and that is the extent of our involvement. So when you lash out at admins for site bugs—such as spamming mentions of them in regards to a problem they're aware has not been fixed yet—all it does is create unnecessary friction over a problem neither you nor we can solve. I'll make a post based on my recent discussions with the dev team once I've freed up my workload from some other tasks. |
KinetaApr 11, 2017 5:11 PM
Kineta said: @yhunata @Rei366 @Sapewloth To be clear, Luna and the other administrative staff (me included) have no control over the dev team. This means we don't fix bugs, we don't decide when current bugs get fixed, and we don't decide how they're fixed. We report problems and give suggestions, and that is the extent of our involvement. So when you lash out at admins for site bugs—such as spamming mentions of them in regards to a problem they're aware has not been fixed yet—all it does is create unnecessary friction over a problem neither you nor we can solve. I'll make a post based on my recent discussions with the dev team once I've freed up my workload from some other tasks. Not asking you guys to fix it, but to give us an answer. We were told that it would take a little over 2 weeks. It will be 3 months tomorrow since then. |
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| @yhunata Luna said: This is the last admin post in the thread. There is no promise of 2 weeks in that post, but rather, the implication that it will now take longer to fix.Yeah there are new problems. I will post here when it's fixed. What further answer would you like from us? I can write 3 paragraphs about how it's not fixed and how I can't give any estimation for when it will be. In the end, those 3 paragraphs can be summarised by Luna's two sentences. While I don't mind you posting, asking for an update, I do mind posts like this: yhunata said: Nothing in the rules says that I can't badger the admins until they give an answer. @Luna yhunata said: Then they're gonna have to do with getting annoyed. Every. Single. Day. These kind of messages do not improve your chances that we will communicate with you. In fact, it does the opposite. It makes us not want to reply to you at all. If you could please refrain from this in the future, it would be greatly appreciated. |
| @Kineta Thank you for your answer. The only thing I was asking for (to an administrator, right) was if the programmers were trying to drown the fish. Calling an admin name about that was because I thought they were the "bridge" betweenusers and makers. |
| @Rei366 I definitely agree that we're the bridge, or in another metaphor, the messengers. So please remember to not shoot us ;) ---- Fixing the forum search is a long struggle, and I think the amount of effort to fix it was a bit underestimated at first by all of us. We've seen some changes to it pushed to the site, and the staff have tested some other changes in development that haven't fixed the problems either. Part of the reason that this is taking so long, is that the advanced search has a number of different query types: 1a/2a - Search by keyword 1b - Find posts by user 1c - Find posts by user with keyword 2b - Find threads started by user 2c - Find threads started by user with keyword Our problems are multi-pronged and apply to all query types: 1b/2b doesn't show all recent posts/threads by user 1c/2c builds off of 1b/2b and doesn't show all posts/threads matching the keywords 1a/2a give variable results with the fuzzy search For a while, the dev team was trying to improve/tweak 1a/2a while also fixing 1bc/2bc. Now they're entirely focusing on only fixing 1bc/2bc first. After a detailed discussion yesterday, I was notified it could take up to 6 weeks to fix 1bc/2bc alone. I'll be the first to admit and agree that this timeline is very frustrating. The first post in this thread is from October, so we've been fighting these issues now for 6 months. That's really annoying, both from a user and a moderator perspective. Our forum mods obviously use the search to do their jobs. You may ask, why can't it just be changed back to how it used to be? This isn't possible. Too much has changed on the backend and we need to struggle forwards. You may ask, why were these changes necessary in the first place? Most of MAL was coded back in the mid/late-2000s by Xinil. It's 2017. Our backend needs to be upgraded to meet with both current times and our server demands due to our now large community. Unfortunately, there's nothing more we can do aside from being patient. Please be assured that the admins have made it clear that this task is of high priority. We can't stop all development/bug fixes everywhere else on the site until this is fixed (that's not rational), but as much time as possible is being dedicated to it. The admin team will keep communicating with the devs. If you'd like another update before we post anything else, a simple "Anything new to share with us? @Kineta" will suffice. Please have confidence that we're in this group torture session together. |
Kineta said: @yhunata Works fine for me? https://myanimelist.net/forum/search?q=ashita+no+nadja&u=&uloc=1&loc=19 That seems really, really strange. No searches turned up for me yesterday, for some reason. |
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| @Kineta and @yhunata Does it still work in the same way? Back then, I was able to track episode threads with a partial name like "Gundam ZZ" or "Zeta Gundam" but now only the second one gives appropriate results. The researches I used the most aren't giving any ep discussion: "Gundam" or "Gundam discussion". Also, were results always limited to a single page? |
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