Isekai wa Smartphone to Tomo ni. Episode 1 Discussion

Frost993 said:


I'm not going to spoil it, just saying normally I give an anime 3 ep for me to like it. Then I judge if il watch it or not. Just a suggestion since it airs weekly, just take that one day every week for 3 weeks to see if you like it. If you don't then cool, this anime isn't for everyone (Don't forget its a harem anime and that if you have time, read the light novel. Its had more detail then the anime (in my opinion))

It's just the first ep, their not going to give you the whole fish at once. They'll chop it up once a week and give it to you :P You can't say that fish is shit on the first day if you had a tiny bit, you have to try it a couple times to get the feel of it.

Tokoya said:
Wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be and it's certainly not the worst first episode I've seen this season

The best part about this was the twins for me because I found them to be pretty fun but other than that, there wasn't anything special about this and the MC is pretty much the a Gary Stu lead which is typical in this genre to begin with

One thing I will say is that I like that he's not really like standard MC's in this genre personality wise but as of right now, he's kinda bland and that could be a bad thing in the long run

Ryulightorb said:


if you read what i said i wasn't defending the anime.
i was saying read the novel if you want the experience is 100x better (Watching it now and whilst it's mostly the same integral bits of info are missing and just feels wrong).

It's meant to be a trope heavy novel / anime (that's a good thing imo) and is very different from Konosuba.

I can't speak for the anime as what im seeing is a terrible adaption so far but the novel is far superior so i more or less thing anyone that wants to see this done right should just read the light novel.

I'm kinda annoyed with the adaption so far but they haven';t skipped over the most important parts yet.

The novel starts slow to be fair i would argue since the pacing of the anime seems alot slower it just feels dragged out and boring then at some parts the pacing sky rockets foward so it's like wtf? i'm gonna keep watching on.

But you probably misunderstood what i was saying i went to watching it right before that comment i paused to do some stuff but more or less i'm recommending the novel if anyone is truly interested in this series.

But i have high hopes they can still turn it around but by the pacing is atrocious.


For reference the start of the episode (5 minutes in) takes 3 minutes to get to at an average reading pace the end of the episode takes 3-4 hours to get to at an average reading pace.

Faster would suit an anime better yes but it's like....how fast do you need to go? god damn.

BurningSpirit said:
The episode doesn't give me much hope of the potential of this show, however the people here seem way too harsh. Chill out guys, it's been 1 episode and it's mostly set-up.

Also neither the main character nor the girls have done anything yet, it is 1 episode after all. Generic seems a little harsh, just because they don't have some dark edgy backstory doesn't immediately make them a boring/generic character. Give them time, geez

That however is not to say I've got no issues with it, it bothers me seeing how much power god gas given the main character and that the show is a harem. It doesn't have an action tag, so there still some hope in me that the show will revolve solely around exploring the possibilities of the mobile phone in the alternate universe (rather than how OP the main character is).

AnimeFanboy1234 said:
"it's been 1 episode and it's mostly set-up."
Your point?

Saito6689 said:
I dont get the hate, i enjoyed it.
The MC seems likeable.

AnimeFanboy1234 said:


I have no problem with the pacing.
Even Monster, criticized for its slow pacing, tells you from the 1st ep that there is a conflict, even if the main one hadn't begun yet.
The only reason I'm watching the anime, is because I'm in the mood for shitty isekai harem garbage, because it's easy to consume, and goddamn it, I want to be in a fantasy world surrounded by hot girls.
So that's why I don't see a reason to read the light novel.

The, "light novel is better" argument is ovesaturated, yet it has no substance.
If you want to convince people to read the light novel, you gotta elaborate more, then just say, "it's got better dialogue, the MC has personality, etc". Like examples.

GD1551 said:


I thought he seemed a lot better than most of the other LN MCs and at least his power doesn't just come out of his ass. Still tho this show goes hard on the LN tropes, the only thing that stood out to me was the MC being normal, like in a bland way as you stated. LNs in particularly need more of these types, not the mahouka dude or the SAO guy who are just good at everything and have a bunch of special stuff "just because". At least in his case a higher power granted him the ability to be OP, which is better than most LN BS and he acts like a normal person (so far at least). Hopefully this show stays lighter and doesn't try to be serious, because that would probably ruin it.

Frost993 said:


I'm not going to spoil it, just saying normally I give an anime 3 ep for me to like it. Then I judge if il watch it or not. Just a suggestion since it airs weekly, just take that one day every week for 3 weeks to see if you like it. If you don't then cool, this anime isn't for everyone (Don't forget its a harem anime and that if you have time, read the light novel. Its had more detail then the anime (in my opinion))

It's just the first ep, their not going to give you the whole fish at once. They'll chop it up once a week and give it to you :P You can't say that fish is shit on the first day if you had a tiny bit, you have to try it a couple times to get the feel of it.

Ryulightorb said:


it has all that you know the scene where he got his sword...the guy out like 10 minutes worth of character development and plot development there.

The problem with the anime in regards to the light novel is merely it cuts out most of the characters development and the lore of the world that it is in that is very important.

half the problems people are complaining about are solved in the novel by stuff the cut out in the anime so it just baffles me to why they did that.

BurningSpirit said:


My point? That there's a need to properly introduce how the world works? There's also a need to slowly trickle in the characters in a harem. It's 1 episode out of 12 or 24. I don't know what you're expecting out of a harem anime where the character is sent to another universe.

I'm not saying the show is good. I'm saying it's not even possible to judge at this point for certain, though an overpowered mc is a bad sign. I'd be even more pessimistic if the show is confirmed to be 1 cour, because it will definitely mean undeveloped generic characters, since there'd be too many characters for 12 episodes. But we don't even know that for certain.

Your point?

AnimeFanboy1234 said:


I can't find my original comment (damn internet connection), but I don't recall mentioning anything about my issue with this ep being "world building".
Problems that arise early on from anime (non-existent animation, boring dialogue, 0 hints of conflict, gary stu protagonist, etc) may reduce, but still are very prevelant later on.

hotradremixlx said:
I mean its the first episode, i understand all the "bashing" but in reality its kinda pathetic that everyone is willing to bash anime as soon as it comes out without giving it a chance to progress, not all anime has to be some super serious writing with unbelievable character development and a immensely heart wrenching story. some anime can just be for fun and entertainment. also iv always believed this but i think opinions are so unbelievably influenced by herd mentality, if a few people commented how they love the show already or a famous internet personality did then everyone would say they love it, works the same for hating it. understand while you may have an opinion. saying "its garbage" is not a opinion in reality its just boring and annoying, why not leave something constructive or well structured so people can understand your point of view... or are you following a trend.

Disclaimer: Not defending this show, i am just saying its getting pathetic that the same thing is happening on all new shows with this mentality and mind set that will ruin the anime community more so than it already has.

Ryulightorb said:



Well as i said in the novel the mc is not a Gary stu he has alot of personality has his likes and dislikes and is emotional when he needs to be and complacent when he needs to be.

The dialouge isn't boring also infact imo alot of the good dialouge was either trimmed and made boring or just removed in the adaption which does the anime no favours.

Conflict doesn't come in the novel till what should be next episode no conflict early on isn't a bad thing especially when you spend the other time on personality development/character development etc but i saw little of that in the adaption.

The animation is awful also it didn't show any of the awesome attack scenes describe in the battles infact the battles went on much faster in the anime making them feel insignificant.

I hope it does reduce or they fix it but the novel really whilst it has problems doesn't have as many personally i would put the novel up there with re:zero this anime adaption though? it's like they took out it's soul.

But first episode is the first episode things can change for the better and we can only hope.

i brought up world building because the novel started focusing around Character personality , relations and world building and then opened up to questing and conflict.

There is a lot of slice of life moments in the novel and will most likely go to the anime which many people dislike this series is less about conflict but more about the experience of the new world and the adventure atleast from what i have read but things will get heated up more once he gets his coat (from the picture of the anime)

AnimeFanboy1234 said:


Your first sentence is so badly structured I can barley make out what you're saying. I'm guessing that you're saying there's a scene in the light novel that is as lengthy as 10 min, and in that scene, there's character/plot development there?

Also, you gotta give more examples.

Ryulightorb said:


yes that was what i was saying and well for example in the scene i talk about it goes into how its an Eashen sword and how Eashen is a society much like Japan.

The mc is asked if he is from Eashen and he says yes trying to fit in and they discuss what type of weapons their are and how they suit eachother needs.

He develops a newfound interest in Eashen and says he will have to go there someday to himself.

There is a few more bits of speech that are well insignificant but they shows the mc's interests which develop on him as a living breathing character.


Everything else is more or less the same it's the little things they removed.

"A Mary Sue (if female) or Marty Stu (if male) is an idealized and seemingly perfect fictional character. Often this character is recognized as an author insert or wish fulfillment."

The character is no where near perfect he is a normal person who is kind and puts others before himself and strives to help others (that is normal if that's perfect i know alot of perfect people) he isn't even perfect in the novel infact he has a lot wrong with him.

He is naive and too kind not to mention has no respect for other cultures (this could be just because he has no understanding).
He lets people push him around and is awkward as hell.

The good things he has is his immense strength and magical prowess but those were only gifts and are logical and such a thing does not make a character a mary/gary stu.

In the anime he did come off as a Gary Stu but the novel version of him was just not an ideal / perfect person unless you count a normal person as perfect and idealised.

Heck i think half the problem with him being a Gary Stu in the anime is mostly because he does seem perfect right now they haven't shown his negatives and the ones they should they cut out.

Also a character being a Gary Stu doesn't ruin an anime in the least unless they were the only good thing behind it but that's going off topic.

If they start adapting the little bits he will become well not a Gary stu in most peoples eye at least not objectively.

Question is will they adapt those things i don't know i'm not part of the adaption team \o/

AnimeFanboy1234 said:


>"conflict"
Except there was literally no hint on what the conflict will be. Hell, even Re: Zero, AKA torture porn by a writer who didn't bother to make multiple drafts resulting in a "plot" that goes nowhere, at least had conflict in the 1st ep.
Even if actual conflict appears later, I can speculate by its nonexistence from this ep, that it's going to be dumb random conflict, like, "where is my lab coat?" or something dumb like that.

>"MC has personality"
Examples? A little weird for the protagonist in the 1st ep to have literally no personality, but then somehow magically the studio realized, "wait, this is the protagonist, we need to give him a personality!" and then has a personality in the next ep, an issue any competent creator would've fixed by the 1st ep.

>"Dialogue"
Examples? The dialogue in this ep was completely boring, because it hints at no conflict between characters, no tension, no chemistry, no nothing. The dialogue is pure, "get from point a to point b"

>"adventures"
Based on the plot synopsis, and this ep, those "adventures" sound like they're gonna be random, have barely any stakes, and just will have no actual point to them.

>"But first episode is the first episode things can change for the better and we can only hope."
Like what? What does, "Get better" mean aside from, "getting more exciting" which is given in any story?

Fai said:
I am pretty sure the braindead genericness of this premiere literally killed some of my braincells.

Gary Stu MC with random powers because god? Check
Utterly ridiculous premise taken seriously? Check IT DOES NOT EVEN MAKE SENSE
Lame meta jokes? Check
Harem? Check
Awful pacing? Check

If you took all isekai works and stripped away EVERYTHING that made any of them unique you would get this, I am pretty sure.

I am pretty sure I am getting drunk today to try to push away the memories of having watched this.

1/10, dropped. Holy shit was this bad. At least it made every single show in this season look better in comparison(yes even knight and magic, this managed to take away the trash crown form that).

AnimeFanboy1234 said:


>"Nice"
>"Lets people push him around"

Everyone is nice. Those personality traits are so over saturated, so safe to use to write anime protagonists now, that I barely can qualify them as personality traits, unless they go beyond their basic meanings, which it doesn't sound like the MC will do.

I dunno man. Novels have the advantage of really getting you in the protagonists' head, to show a side to them that their dialogue doesn't.

Snaita said:

So you just came here to talk how bad SAO is it?

Frost993 said:
There's no plot cause it's a harem

FlareKnight said:

I thought the problem was that this guy wasn't normal at all. Who the heck is that disinterested in their own death? Regardless of what his grandfather told him, I'm pretty sure that wasn't meant to cover being a victim of manslaughter. Are normal people also completely disinterested in never being able to see or talk to their friends and family ever again? That the only thing we see him look up on his phone is how a band is doing says a lot about how 'normal' this guy is.

He's a generic harem lead with OP powers. The OP powers are what they are. But it also goes to another level that he just happens to find someone willing to pay a lot of money for the only disposable thing he has on him (his clothes) just while walking down the road.

It's fine to like the generic harem lead. But, let's not pretend this guy is normal in any sense.