The Saga of Tanya the Evil (light novel)
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| Tanya is as savage as ever. I wasn't expecting that guy to be alive. Now he possibly receives power from god. I thought his daughter might be the one to get the blessing from Being X and fight Tanya. |
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| Well this episode was darker than usual. Still great though. Tanya as logical as ever. Not sure how I feel about the new ED yet. |
| I'm just speechless... I yelled when I saw the ending! Oh my God, he's the rival that's been foreshadowed! I'm so blown away, TANYA ISN'T GOING TO BE THE HEAD HONCHO ANYMORE!!! It's been a thrilling yet uncomfortable ride, like I said in the Ep 7 forum, how could God be supporting Tanya in her evil deeds? That's because the next step in God's plan has been executed. This man, who (in a way) represents good in this world, is now EQUAL TO TANYA. How will this feud end? Unfortunately Tanya will probably win in the end and prove God wrong, but I'd love to see how even when Tanya and the American are on equal ground, the American will win because spreading hope and good was always God's plan. Maybe I'm a sucker for a good ending, but I'll be satisfied with a win for Tanya, or maybe a draw between her and God. I need to rewatch the episode since I wasn't paying much attention to the whole city battle, but overall this episode has me super hyped for what's in store for Tanya, now that she has a new assignment and someone who is coming after her. |
| HOLY SHIT I JUST CANT EVEN I aint even mad this took original path, just omg This episode felt long while watching it but in the good way, like I was having so much fun it felt like more than usual until the episode ended and I felt sad. |
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| that was an epic episode war is never an easy thing to deal with |
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| That was a pretty dark episode. I liked it. Seems like the guy from the previous episode survived. Not sure whether I should be surprised or not. |
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LukesYGOonYT said: Tanya is as savage as ever. I wasn't expecting that guy to be alive. Now he possibly receives power from god. I thought his daughter might be the one to get the blessing from Being X and fight Tanya. They're deviating from the LN at this point. But I guess that's fine and it was still very good. I found the episode to be pretty dark, but that's got to be expected as war heats up and you start to get into the psychological aspect of it. And I'll reiterate - she's not evil, she just looks at things in such a practical way that she is completely amoral. "Kill the enemy before they can become soldiers and shoot back at you." "Our superiors have given us our orders" Her previous life was exactly the same way "Following company orders is the easiest thing in the world, and the best way to advance in the world" So now we have her main adversary, powered by Being X. We'll see what happens, but I do hope she survives: 1) because I'd like to see it continue for more seasons (they battle the Russians and Americans later on in the LNs); and 2) because I don't like characters that I have in my favorites to die - LOL |
elkensteyinMar 3, 2017 5:51 PM
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| To be honest, when i was walking into this show, i was expecting it to be trash. This has been a pleasant surprise and i'm glad that i went into this show, even if it was originally to watch it ironically and then make fun of it. This is probably the best episode yet, lets just see if they can keep the quality up. As for it being or not being anime original content. I haven't read the original LN, nor will i probably read it at this point. While i generally prefer shows to stick closer to the source material, I understand that sometimes there are different ways to present material, and sometimes different can be good too. |
| Dam the hero comes forth with God given powers. Feels like Death Note. |
Makubex27 said: That was a nice mini twist near the end. The entire episode builds you up as Tanya just "following orders" from the moment she is having the meeting with a senior commander all the way to when she tells the 2nd Lt. to take up his gun and shoot. But it turns out, she wrote the book on how to "legally" fight / bombard cities. Very crafty as always Tanya. Was about to post this too - definitely a very clever reveal at the end. Enjoying this anime a lot. Only 4 episodes left in the season so curious to see how they're going to end it (or if there will be further seasons). |
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| Damn that was a crazy episode, and I think it did a good job of realistically portraying the horrors of warfare. I didn't expect the guy from last episode to still be alive, and he has some new powers from Being X, so this should get pretty interesting going forward. |
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| How the heck did Colonel Sue/Sioux survive? He got stabbed in the gut by a short bayonet (at least 6-8" deep), feel into icy waters, during an enemy (Empire) occupation and somehow got picked up by Not-Britain? How?  Still an amazing show and if the director wants Sioux to be the season finale....good decision. It's more character development and would make the "final" battle more satisfying, even if the Colonel isn't the FINAL FINAL boss. |
| Great episode, interesting cliffhanger. |
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| this episode could be sum up with "are we the baddies?" before i thought that old man died i was like X is totally gonna give him powers to rival Tanya turns out he is alive and he totally got powers from X lol |
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| Oh My God! at last! there would be someone who would match-up against Tanya! and the mastermind of this one would surely be Being X! and that was the man that Tanya defeated on episode 7 previous episode! new ED was also awesome! 5/5. |
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Deleth said: What the hell did the Republic expect would happen? They staged a rebellion inside a city, armed militias, killed PoWs and other people. They were warned in advance that anyone who remains would be seen as a combatant. Their reaction was to keep everyone, including children and actual civilians right there using them as human shields. Instead of fighting the Republican mages turned tail and tried to use the same civilians as shields. This is the equivalent of certain groups using hospitals and schools as places for their artillery emplacements and ammunition depots. Skyrim said: Who declare war in the first place? empire or the allies? Allies. Entente basically walked an army into the Empire's territory expecting to just show off/take it. Empire hammered them. Republic used the chance to invade the Empire in turn, Dakia joined in later. Ahegyao said: I wonder if this episode can convince warmongering Americans who wish to bomb cities to solve their problems that they're not up their in the moral ladder. Not even American myself but, seriously? You missed the part where the Republic instigated an armed uprising, used civilians as shields and happily killed PoWs and others amongst a whole bunch of other things? By that logic, I could strap a bunch of babies to myself and start shooting up places. Then when anyone tries to stop me I get to take the moral high ground, calling them violent baby murderers. A matter of context. Here the mage were withdrawing from the battlefield and the civilians weren't a shield, that's the contrary, the mage were the shield to protect the civilians. You can always say that civilians were at fault to be at the wrong place, they've been warned and in a somewhat more realistic context, most or all of them would have already fled from the city. But here is the thing, some were still in the city, they are evacuating, the mages are just protecting them, ... and the empire generals still want to annihilate them all, children included, and tanya just does it and even justifies it. The writer or being X wanted to make a point here I suppose, like "just following orders is shit sometimes" Sure, from a simplistic, superficial and idiotic rational point of view, killing children and civilians makes sense. On the long-term though, it nurtures the anger of the enemy and so makes the war harder to win, justify any escalation in horror and the enemy doing the same shit to your family if the possibility ever occur. That's why there are some laws to prevent armies to act like psychotic monsters and these laws are "rational" too, there's a logic behind them but Tanya and her bosses don't care about the big picture and they just looked for excuse to bypass the law. Furthermore the commanders have this typical flaw that they always think they'll won the war so they won't have to pay for the shit they've done. Someone said "Being a soldier doesn't mean throwing away your morals." Well it does, IF you are not lucky. If your commanders and comrades have no morals you'll have to go with the flow, that's how it works in an army. There were a lot of barbaric events involving civilians during WWII and very probably not all soldiers wanted to kill and rape civilians, but what do you do when your commanders don't care about the savagery and even encourage it or give orders? What do you do when your brother in arms turn into rapists in the middle of the war? What do you do when you are on the wrong side? You'll shoot at your comrades, your "brother in arms" and then die? War is shit and being a soldier means if you are not lucky you might land in the wrong place doing the wrong thing or at least witnessing first hand the most awful ones with no other alternative than trying to turn a blind eye, trying to find excuses, like the soldier "saving his comrades" in this episode and trying to save your conscience pushing responsibility on others, on orders, like Tanya ... but sadly ... you were there and contribute to this shit. You see all that in this episode, almost, they didn't go to the point of showing the children being slaughtered even though we know it's happening. It's definitely an interesting episode. |
Maniacreator said: skyUFO said: Whoah, I can't believe that guy was alive at the end >;O and still annoying ... EXACTLY! how ridiculous : P he talks as if he's Saint or whatevs : P he pissed me off! he's Judging Tanya is devil/demon/monster' just because Tanya accomplished her mission? just because Tanya has won the battle? this is WAR we're talking about Kill or be Killed" they're no bad guys or good guys All is equal |
| We're closing to episode 12 and its not enough darn it, and I understand why only they make only 12 episode... But, still darn it. Hehe Just give him, his daughter gun. |
Pyon2WarpKunMar 4, 2017 4:50 AM
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| Wow! The episode, does not skimp on the show in a cruel and merciless, the face that "may" take a war. I am satisfied with the fact that we have not gone for the slim, even more, because now there is a counterweight to the enormous power of the protagonist; I had assumed that the "old man" was not really dead, the fact that it remained in the icy waters, and it is saved, it is plausible, although its survival is miraculous. Now I think he wants to come back even the rifle given to him by his daughter. Now, in light of what happened in this episode, the hypothesis that there is an "ally" to come between Tanya and glory, becomes a less plausible hypotheses. |
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| Well, to be honest, Code Geass was even harsher from the get go. Britanian soldiers killed civilians without a care in the world and laughed when presented with killing one of their citicens. |
| That was an intense episode. I feel sorry for Lieutenant Weiss. I hope his punishment will be not that harsh. Grantz really pissed me off this episode. I hope, that Tanya kills him. Well, she gave them fair warning and a chance to surrender. Everything that happened after that, lies in their responsibility. Also, the enemy commander was a fool. What did he think would happen, when they stir up the people to a rebellion? The old fool survived and became Being X's tool. Great! |
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| Great episode as always and man what a intense one War as usual for Tanya and her unit eh. Man trench warfare is as brutal as ever. Still as a mage battalion Tanya's unit will be in high demand on the front line. Their ability to fly at fast speeds though makes them a true asset on the field though. Arti knockout missions eh. Kinda perfect missions for them really. Wow the risk of friendly fire is high here since friendly units are not ceasing fire when Tanya's unit is in the AO. To the soldiers fighting against Tanya's unit they must look like demons to them really. Hmm the newbee seems to be rather determined to prove himself not to mention he's a bit cocky. By this point in the war it will be wise to learn from veterans like Viktoriya who's been in the unit since the beginning. Vic sure is cute when she's happily eating away though. Hmm an attack by enemy insurgents that managed to encircle an entire city eh. To think that they had the strength to do such a large operation though. Now that the railroads and supply lines are in their hands the frontlines would have trouble with supplies. Im surprised that the local MP's couldn't deal with them and destroy the source before. Plus it seems that the insurgents are being supported by hostile mages as well. Double trouble indeed for the empire here. So their tactics is going to be focused on bleeding the empire dry here which will have an effect on the nearby fronts as well then. So Tanya's unit is sent to root out the mages and deal with them before retaking the city eh. This will be a tricky assignment for sure. Urban warfare is hard because the defender always has the advantage here. Hmm an evac order that forces the city to be evacuated eh. Well this will ensure that there are no civilians within the city and leaving only enemy combatants within the city. Tanya's way of expressing skepticism of the plan was funny though. It is sad but this is war. If the people cannot be brought to heel then you would need a large force to control them which would eat away your resources. Better to burn it down i guess. This fight will be hard though especially as the fact that the civilians will not leave willingly and that they have to issue warnings before beginning combat operations. This kind of operation won't be pretty though and seeing the ranks talk about this is proof of the doubts that they are having. Seems that the new guy is starting to have questions eh. Its unsurprising that the enemy has captured POW's though. They're probably hoping that the empire won't attack because of that. So the enemy mages are hoping to ambush any incoming units from long range first eh. Tanya didn't expect this eh. Its rare for her to be surprised though. Man using dug in forces and high mobility mages to back them up the enemy sure is ingenious with their tactics. Using the sunlight to blind the enemy before slipping behind them now that was a good tactic from Tanya. I understand why Weiss wanted to stay and fight with his men but Tanya is right in that he will only slow them down. Still the combat scenes in this episode are as amazing as always. I like how they turned the traditional slow paced urban combat scenario to a fast paced shooting gallery instead. Watching Tanya and her men try to take on the enemy in this environment was a sigh to see. The enemy has no chance of winning really. Any conventional forces maybe but against mages like Tanya not a chance. Now that they followed the rules by issuing the warning Tanya can now unleash her power eh. So it seems a lot of civilians actually ignored the evac order and decided to stay then. To them it must be horrible to see your home being destroyed. The shot of the pair of children though was good in that it conveyed this feeling exactly. This is war after all. There is no time for mercy or regret. They should have left when they had the chance. It seems that the new guy has developed a conscience then. Taking out the enemy mages would incur more losses to the battalion while using arti fire on them would cause civilian casualties. Though Tanya is right in that they are all enemies of the empire but man this is brutal. It is understandable why that guy broke down though. The combat in the city was brutal as was the barrage after as well. Hmm i like the new ending song as well its pretty calming which is important after such a intense episode. So it looks like Anton sue did survive that battle with Tanya and now he has the mission of killing her as a mission from god. Interesting. |
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| Using artillery in urban areas is definitely a special kind of evil. It isn't even surprising that Tanya enabled the brutality to unfold. General Zettour's face in the final moments was priceless, he must have something really interesting in mind for Tanya. I was surprised to see the Kamikaze-man survived. He will serve as a fine antagonist, however, given his new power. |
| I feel like they've already established that war is bad so I'm not really sure what the point of this was or even the point of the whole story. Don't think for a second that I'm going to start rooting for the Nazi's. Hoping the soldier who met God, while dying in the fjord, becomes a good foil for Tanya. |
| The episode was great in showing how not all of Tanya's battalion are complete brainwashed zombies and actually have consciences and perhaps even some heart in them. Too bad this is wartime where none of those characteristics actually matter if your main objective is to stay alive long enough to be able to use those things again.... Tanya's cool and collected analysis of the situation was perfect for her position. She dealt a blow to the Republic army by completely showing no mercy to those ex-Imperial citizens who defected and went so far as to attack their own soldiers. By filming the atrocities performed by those defectors, she gave fuel and more propaganda to her side to show how evil the Republic is for converting their citizens, gave her own soldiers a valid reason for attacking their former nationals, and as a result keeps her soldiers alive because they won't hesitate like her Second in Command did. Plus, all that talk about killing off survivors before they join the Republic is very forward thinking. Whilst far from humane, from a soldiers perspective it all makes perfect sense. Oh, and yes that ED was beautiful. |
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| "We'll shoot the enemy or they'll shoot us" A really emotionally intense episode. I'm not sure if Tanya felt pity to those civilians. Too sad for thr soldiers whose been tied to absolute command. |
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| Glad that it seems we're going to an original ending, we might get a satisfactory ending instead of a cliffhanger or incomplete adaptation. |
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| This is nature of total war, a very sad one. Using soldiers as meatshields then the enemy proceed to give a warning minutes prior and bombard giving no real chance of evacuation. Forcefully killing civilians, sad. Poor treatment of prisoner of war due to hate for the enemy is a very common sight. But if you let the enemy go, they may join back and kill your comrades. And we might have a super-powered opposition against Tanya now. Also new ending is very nice. |
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| So the guy is alive, and God gave him the mission to kill the devil. |
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| While Tayna speaks the truth, her lack of empathy is her most terrifying feature. She is efficient and effective, but cares only for her job. Also, I call HORSESHIT on that guy surviving. |
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hithummah said: bending the rules to take down the rebellion guerrilla warfare. This is how isreal is striking palastine, or saudi with yemen. Yep, very similar concept, israel and saudi are criminal invaders along the Us warmonger corporations after all, they are pushing the war in the middle-east asia to colonize these countries and restrict russia and cina influence, the last countries that refuse the globalization and us dominance. Anyway not the place to start a geopolitical debates. Back OT, great episode but i'm worry they start to diverge too much from the source materail, hope they don't go with a open original ending unless they do not want more anime seasons. |
| New ED reminds me of erased |
| Tany as expected, badass af xD She did what was needed, and she was right, those civilians in the future would be a pain in the ass. But that ending... can't believe that guy is alive, and now the Existence X gave him some powers, pretty interesting ;) Finally, Tanya will now have an enemy at her level (or not) xD From what i've read that ending was different from the LN/Manga, i don't know if that's a good thing or not. |
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