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GalekC said: ReadyJoan said: Just the stuff surrounding that particular part is what I'm talking about.GalekC said: ReadyJoan said: Well then, watching this might feel like a lost cause.If Gon knew Kite more than that in the original show/manga, ok, but I'm only watching this show and that's where my judgment is coming from. Is it that bad of an adaptation?? DAFQ is this?! Kite is Gon's idol, hero figure (possibly father figure), his reason for being a hunter, opening his view of the world to more than just whale island and he saved his life. Kite's death was his and killua's fault for being conceited, weak and total idiots thinking they were truly strong. http://www.mangareader.net/207-14207-16/hunter-x-hunter/chapter-198.html Gon just feels super guilty and blames himself for everything to the point of insanity. In the manga he was introduced in the 1st chapter and came back 180+ chapters later and in the anime he appeared after greed island and had a flashback, the anime did his appearance and character better. |
ichii_1Mar 30, 2014 12:42 PM
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| It's not about whether he can or can't convince him (though I'm pretty sure he can NOT), but even if he miraculously did succeed, the King's unstable personality would eventually shift in either direction and it's all for naught. Anything that can be said now is pointless, the only thing it can happen is weaken their resolve or "sway" them. And like I said, there must be another factor that they are hiding. I'm sure of it. |
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ichii_1 said: Late night last night...was going to try and say all that you just said, anyway. (Don't listen to me - listen to ichii instead, Joan.)DAFQ is this?! Kite is Gon's idol, hero figure (possibly father figure), his reason for being a hunter, opening his view of the world to more than just whale island and he saved his life. Kite's death was his and killua's fault for being conceited, weak and total idiots thinking they were truly strong. http://www.mangareader.net/207-14207-16/hunter-x-hunter/chapter-198.html Gon just feels super guilty and blames himself for everything to the point of insanity. In the manga he was introduced in the 1st chapter and came back 180+ chapters later and in the anime he appeared after greed island and had a flashback, the anime did his appearance and character better. |
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| God damn, so much bad assery in one scene. The wait was worth it, Netero is one of my favorite characters in HxH and he has one of the best fights in the manga. The replacement voice actor did a pretty good job though I miss the other guy, R.I.P. :(. Can't wait for the next episode it's going to be crazy. |
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| I was thinking about it, but most of the Chimera Ants are at least partially based on an animal right? So, what exactly is the King based off of? The shell on his head reminds me of a turtle, but I don't know. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Netero is fuckin awesome. I didn't even notice he got a new seiyuu lol |
insan3Spectre said: A possible mix of each species that the Queen ate?I was thinking about it, but most of the Chimera Ants are at least partially based on an animal right? So, what exactly is the King based off of? The shell on his head reminds me of a turtle, but I don't know. |
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GalekC said: insan3Spectre said: A possible mix of each species that the Queen ate?I was thinking about it, but most of the Chimera Ants are at least partially based on an animal right? So, what exactly is the King based off of? The shell on his head reminds me of a turtle, but I don't know. Could very well be, would make sense considering his role as King. |
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kcaco said: MSV said: tsudecimo said: It only showed the Buddha statue like I said, nothing about the stance and how the power works. I'm kind surprised that Chiriku's was anime only. Whoever came up with it, should have worked with Kishi. If you're asking about how the technique works and how it's connected to the hand movements and such, You're answer is that it happened at the very start of the invasion when Netero attacked Pitou at chapter 264: http://www.mangahere.com/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v25/c264/12.html The statue itself wasn't shown, but it was an emitter attack from it. Also this chapter was released on November 17th, 2007. So it was before that Shippuden filler episode which was realsed on August 28th, 2008. Yes I found it silly that there's even these 'who rips off who' talk to begin with (trolling or not), and people making a big deal out of it (and an obvious few who's determine to undermine HxH in any opportunity they get out of stupid spite or grudge). It must be a cultural thing because there's rarely dispute like this in the Asian HxH fan forums, because Buddhism imagery is so common, it's just something most people there grew up with. The 'Buddha" behind Netero is Guanyin with the thousand hand...basic google search brings you a tons of images and video: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Quan_Am_1656.jpg http://thumb7.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/619663/619663,1304447772,1/stock-photo-guan-yin-with-ten-thousand-hands-76557964.jpg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgHmSdpjEIk Figure like this is just part of the culture, it's a symbol of mercy and it's not that original (but certainly a well written stance and setup that goes well with Netero's background and characterization, and certainly very nicely design and looked epic). It's so familiar in the East that no one bat an eye there and will silly enough to lay claim which Japanese mangaka or anime came up with it first or not...that's just giving TOO much credit to pop culture. Because classic Chinese literature has already appropriate it in entertainment form for years (Sword Fantasy novels, classic fantasy novel Journey to the West) etc. Exactly. Finally someone with brains. It seems to me such stupid debates of "copying" come from people with little knowledge and understanding of mythology and figures or stories connected to such things. I guess mostly people that come from relatively new countries with little culture and history like the USA, don't easily get such things. The Budda attack with hands also exist in games and in One Piece etc. It exist in many things because is part of their culture. Naruto is full of such references, just Google Izanami,Izanagi,Orochimaru,Jiraiya, Sasuke etc. Names of legendary ninjas in ancient Japan or myths etc. Naruto is full of this stuff. Togashi at some parts takes from such mythos and stories too. Dragonball also was inspired by old Chinese mythos since Son-kogu is a monkey in chinese folklore(it also exist in Naruto). Magi is inspired by Arabian stories and the myths of genies and Aladdin and Sindbad(no Disney didn't make this stories, they got inspired by the stories also). This authors are inspired by cultures and folklore and put such things in their stories. Why are you people so stupid and can't realize such things? People arguing about copying etc here are absolutely ridiculous. Also i noticed it always happen in Hunter x Hunter forums because the Togashi fanboys are keen to say on how everyone copies him etc cause they have him like a God or something ad whatever others ever did MUST have copied there God or something. |
| Yes we know they exist in mythologies, but the timing of it is too convenient. We'll never really know though. Oh and if I recall correctly it was one piece fans who made a claim that netero's power ripped off sengoku's (despite coming first but not the point). So if there's anything bad in this community, it's the influx of one piece fanboys too insecure to let it go. (Who are ironically just now whining about FT copying their revered series). Oh and just because this might not be copied, doesn't mean the rest isn't. Like the chunin's forest of death. |
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| I had heard that Netero's voice actor died but I didn't know how soon the new VA was taking over. While I noticed a slight difference, I Honestly didn't realize that the new VA was in this episode until I came on here. Interesting to see how much the king has developed and his new viewpoint of humans. How little Netero's attacks affected the king does not bode well for him. |
insan3Spectre said: GalekC said: insan3Spectre said: A possible mix of each species that the Queen ate?I was thinking about it, but most of the Chimera Ants are at least partially based on an animal right? So, what exactly is the King based off of? The shell on his head reminds me of a turtle, but I don't know. Could very well be, would make sense considering his role as King. Isn't it obvious that Meruem's character design pays homage to DBZ's Cell? The Queen... ate Cell. Loved this episode. Didn't notice Netero's new VA. Youpi is growing on me. Gon is still staring. The next ep previews keep getting cuter! |
| Easily the best episode since 116. Man, Netero is made of awesome, and Meruem really is just a brat, even though a genius and extremely powerful one. RIP old Netero VA tho, he was definitely more fitted for the character. The real highlight were the Royal Guards, and more particularly Pouf. I liked the stark contrast between his and the other two's idea of how one should be loyal to the King and what's best for him. While Pitou (and Youpi now that he's started maturing) seem to have a very selfess and somewhat "human" kind of dedication to Meruem, Pouf on the other appears to be way more on the selfish side, being more devoted to the idea of what the King represents than to the King himself. Which would explain why he'd be distraught at the thought that a vulgar human peasant like Komugi would just come and change Meruem, bringing him further away from that perfect image of the perfect Ant King he always had in mind, and also why he'd be wary of the changes occuring in Pitou and Youpi. Really liking the complexity of the antagonists, here. |
SapewlothJul 22, 2014 1:49 PM
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| Would I be right in thinking Pouf is your favorite of the main four Chimera Ants? I definitely prefer the King but it's cool to see Pouf get some love. I really like his character myself. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Yeah, he's probably my favorite of the four, even though Meruem isn't far behind. I just love his crazy antics and his deceitful personality. The show did a crazy good job at fleshing out his character and motivations. Wut? Pouf doesn't get no love, usually? |
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Sapewloth said: Yeah, he's probably my favorite of the four, even though Meruem isn't far behind. I just love his crazy antics and his deceitful personality. The show did a crazy good job at fleshing out his character and motivations. Wut? Pouf doesn't get no love, usually? aw i love that Pouf is your favorite. He gets a lot of hate for being the villain with no redeeming quality (and his gay dramatic behaviors lol). I personally find him to be the most interesting of the 4. |
| @ Sapewloth Not from what I've seen. Some people don't like his dramatic nature when it comes to Meruem and some like him as a "character you are supposed to hate". I don't fall in either camp, though. I just find his fanaticism interesting and I think, at heart, he believes he has the best interests of his King at heart. The problem is that, like you said, he's more devoted to his "ideal" of what the King should be rather than the actual individual. So, yeah, I think I like Pitou more personally. But, Pouf is most definitely the most purely interesting of the Royal Guards. Then again, I find all three of them to be intriguing characters. edit: For the record, I think there is more to say regarding Pouf. But, since this is only episod 122, I'll stop right here. |
Ston3_FreeN7Jun 23, 2014 4:43 PM
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| The anime really changed my perspective on the King, Pouf, and Youpi for the better. Nothing to say about Pitou, s/he's always been my favorite. |
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| I don't know, it may have something to do with experiencing the characters in the anime first, but I like all four of them a lot in both versions. Though, Pouf's "outbursts" are on an obviously different level in the anime. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| It's finally getting to the best stuff. Wonder if the arc will end without killing the Royal Guards and King. |
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| You know, I don't buy Meruem's change that much. It's hypocritical to point out the selfishness/arrogance of others when he's extremely selfish/arrogant in his own right. Sure, he might be willing to spare those he deems worthy, but how exactly does that translate? Let's look again: >He'll spare those he deems worthy.< There's no way I'd trust that. I don't blame Netero for fighting him. He's entirely too dangerous. I hope Netero can defeat him. It seems like a fairly even match-up. |
| Honestly, I would argue that him sitting down and wanting to talk actually shows a bit of humility. It's true that his idea of "sparing those that deserve it" is a very slippery slope, but if Komugi could influence him in a manner that would even cause him to act so differently from his initial "all humans are a source of food" attitude, what could a man like Netero (who Meruem has already shown interest in) influence him to do? Of course, Netero is worried about the possibility of himbeing swayed and he's just not in a position to even think about settling things in a diplomatic way. Or, maybe Komugi is just special. But, it's still interesting to think about imo. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| Would he sit down with someone far weaker and more "insignificant" than Netero? That would be humility, to me. Maybe if he sat down with someone like the chess or shogi masters he killed, that might convince me. He thinks he deserves power, which is the exact problem the "greedy" who "do nothing" have. His motives still feel more self-serving than selfless (again, to me), but I may be wrong. I don't think it's impossible for him to change. As for him ruling the world, though, I wouldn't support it. |
TripleSRank said: Would he sit down with someone far weaker and more "insignificant" than Netero? That would be humility, to me. Maybe if he sat down with someone like the chess or shogi masters he killed, that might convince me. He thinks he deserves power, which is the exact problem the "greedy" who "do nothing" have. His motives still feel more self-serving than selfless (again, to me), but I may be wrong. I don't think it's impossible for him to change. As for him ruling the world, though, I wouldn't support it. He's still arrogant as hell but Meruem is clearly becoming a lot more selfless here. A few episodes ago he was killing people left and right. Now the guy wants to sit down and talk thinks out regarding the fate of humanity. I'd say that's quite the change. But you also have to keep in mind that he's also basing his actions on the survival of the ants -- that they stay on top. So yeah, it's rather selfish but he's doing what a king is supposed to do in the Chimera Ant line. |
jreginald said: TripleSRank said: Would he sit down with someone far weaker and more "insignificant" than Netero? That would be humility, to me. Maybe if he sat down with someone like the chess or shogi masters he killed, that might convince me. He thinks he deserves power, which is the exact problem the "greedy" who "do nothing" have. His motives still feel more self-serving than selfless (again, to me), but I may be wrong. I don't think it's impossible for him to change. As for him ruling the world, though, I wouldn't support it. He's still arrogant as **** but Meruem is clearly becoming a lot more selfless here. A few episodes ago he was killing people left and right. Now the guy wants to sit down and talk thinks out regarding the fate of humanity. I'd say that's quite the change. But you also have to keep in mind that he's also basing his actions on the survival of the ants -- that they stay on top. So yeah, it's rather selfish but he's doing what a king is supposed to do in the Chimera Ant line. You can't justify the killing/selfishness with the animal side. As I mention in the episode 125 discussion, when a dog bites someone (let alone kills someone), what do we do? We kill the dog. That's why Netero commented that it didn't matter whether Meruem ended up falling more on the animal side or human side. Meruem's being selfish, and he intends to murder to satisfy that selfishness. That he's now willing to talk is an interesting development, but unless he changes even more, he still needs to die. From what we've seen, he's not going to back down on conquering the world, so the offer to talk is pretty useless. |
TripleSRankJul 3, 2014 10:21 PM
babymilo91 said: His name was revealed earlier just as the Chimera Ant Queen died. Meruem was his name.Yes then Netero and King fight is underway. I would like to know what the King's name is. |
| Buddha vs Cell, what an awesome fight. |
| The good guys are sounding more and more like the villains while the villains are turning into good guys o.o.. |
Aozure said: The good guys are sounding more and more like the villains while the villains are turning into good guys o.o.. Congrats , you have stated the obvious Funske said: Okay so for all you people who clam Netero's ability is stolen that is BS. Netero's whole design is based of generic Bodhisattva. Also has other posts have said his power was also foreshadowed in 2003. However it might have been tweaked off of other powers from other animes/mangas. But the over all power is unique. If there is anything Togashi may have influenced this power from , it's the stands in Jojo and even that isn't a ripoff *Also realizing that the studio is doing it in a way that gives homage to a particular character in that manga* |
| Given the right situation , the right story , anyone can be shaped into Snake. -Revolver Ocelot , MGS2 |
| The Netero voice is good. Of course nothing against the old one, especially when I remind on the Gon/Killua catch the ball episode. Amazing fight :o |
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| I'm going to miss Ichiro Nagai :( I already miss him since I watch Ippo and now I have another show to miss him in. |
| So the fight starts for the King's name, it wouldn't go the negotiation method |
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| The old man is kind of coming off as the bad guy in this ep and his nen ability is really strange |
| Holly shit!! Netro's teeth are witer than mine xD |
| Hmm an interesting role reversal here. The bad guys trying to solve things out with words? Rarely heard of. I wonder why wouldn't Netero agree with him though. |
| DAYUM!!!! king is so fucking strong, shit bout to go down for real now. |
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| Its finally here!! |
 Hisoka said: True love is finding someone whose demons play well with yours. Illumi said: . |
| The best anime fight is about to start! This fight is legendary. |
| Really loving the development of The King. |
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| Damn, don't tell me Pitou will break her promise to Gon. Argh probably shouldn't have trusted her in the first place?! I actually thought that Netero would sit down and talk and possibly make it so that the King's human side will overpower his ant side, though I do agree that it'll probably just sway his heart. Actually I kinda wish Netero would try talking with the King first before fighting... Dammit, I don't know just what is the right or wrong thing to do anymore! Anyway, looking forward to Netero and the King's fight! Hopefully the fight won't be disturbed by the 2 royal guards... |
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| NTR has a Sutando. lol at NTR trying to squish the King like a bug. If only talking things through were that simple. |
| If you see that my post is exactly 1 month old (or more) from when it was posted... Don't waste your time, especially when you want to reply with something petty & insignificant. Assume that I've moved on (because I have). |
| The King seems more of a good guy then Netero is. Netero seems to want to only fight while the King wants to talk things over... I hope neither die and come to an agreement. |
| the next episode preview voice over was so sweet? I love killua and gon so much |
| Both old man Netero and Meruem are strong as fuck, this is gonna be a tough fight. |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| DAMN RIP NETERO's OLD VA T-T |
| Netero acted like an idiot here.. |
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