Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
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kidlat020 said: That scene of Rem ship sailing is pretty forced if you asked me. Where the hell was Ram and Emilia? ESPECIALLY EMILIA! She knows his current condition. Heck, Betty knows BETTER than anyone of them! Why is --only-- Rem is at his bedside? PRETTY, EFFING, FORCED!!!!1!!1!one!! Also since when did he learned that spell (Shamac)? It wasn't a shipping scene and honestly for the moment it's Rem who likes Suabru not the other way around. And he learned Shamac Puck back in episode 8. Eric said: Loved the episode. 5/5 as always. Few questions remained though, 1) Who's the blonde maid? 2) What exactly happened after Ram got her horn cut off? Do the twins became Roswaal's maids because of that? Does Roswaal have something to do with the attack? 1. A character who will only appear in a season 2 if we get one. Her names Frederica 2. Roswaal rescue and took them in afterwards. He was the guy holding Ram. We don't know, but it's certainly not impossible. |
Jagd84 said: Her names Frederica Thank you for the answer, but can you tell me where's the blonde maid now? Would it be a big spoiler for me who haven't read the source yet? |
 At least justify your opinions instead of just saying "it's my opinion". It would've been more polite. |
kyle8998 said: I now see why Rem is one of the favorites in this show. That smile is precious and I want to protect it . Their backstory is tragic, I feel bad for them.  Best girl. Rem > Emilia. Dependable, beautiful, maids who will look after you and be there for you at times of need? Sign me in. Subaru's grown on me a lot. This is the type of protagonist I like. |
Andes-Chucky said: 1. sometimes wrong. 2. not wrong, personal taste. I dont get your point :\ .... oh, I get it. maybe it was my comment which is wrong. I hope he compares this show with a better show than SAO. aaand... I didnt write any comments indicating I dont like this show. hope you understand. 1. nah...it just depend on the viewer. it's subjective so it's not wrong. don't worry m8. i was talking to the peson whom you quoted; Andes-Chucky |
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| Again...Cant believe how much work they put into smallest things and how they dont rush anything even if it means ANIMATING 3 EXTRA MINUTES EVERY FRICKIN WEEK...Hope in anime restored HONESTLY... I hope that people who thought twins were evil and Subaru should've let them die understood one or two things...Subaru was fortunately a better person than those people thus he gained a lifelong companion probably...Arrogant stupidity and hatred will do bad things to you...Love first to get loved back,give first to get something in return... |
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Eric said: Jagd84 said: Her names Frederica Thank you for the answer, but can you tell me where's the blonde maid now? Would it be a big spoiler for me who haven't read the source yet? She's currently away from the manor at place I can't say yet. She won't appear in this story until after the next arc (Arc 4) which the anime won't cover. But if really want to know minor spoilers |
| good episode, but i didn't really understand the last scene. does ram try to grow her horn back or does she give her mana/energy to roswaal? LoneWizard said: I hope that people who thought twins were evil and Subaru should've let them die understood one or two things...Subaru was fortunately a better person than those people thus he gained a lifelong companion probably...Arrogant stupidity and hatred will do bad things to you...Love first to get loved back,give first to get something in return... 2D=/=3D |
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Nigami_Shin said: probably more like Roswall give her mana Fate Stay Night style if you know what i mean ;_;good episode, but i didn't really understand the last scene. does ram try to grow her horn back or does she give her mana/energy to roswaal? Nigami_Shin said: Not really...Just the fact that you didnt see it in 3d doesnt mean it doesnt work in 3d...Sure even if you show kindness to people they wont ALWAYS show kindness back to you but if you dont even try you will spend rest of your life drowned in hatred alone...Dont go that way...LoneWizard said: I hope that people who thought twins were evil and Subaru should've let them die understood one or two things...Subaru was fortunately a better person than those people thus he gained a lifelong companion probably...Arrogant stupidity and hatred will do bad things to you...Love first to get loved back,give first to get something in return... 2D=/=3D |
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| Great episode, Rem is adorable. Oh, missed the ED song this time.. And I knew from start that Rosswall is something else.. |
| Rem is officialy best girl now I like Emilia too but none can match my Rem maybe only Ram and that's a maybe. Btw I don't understand people who are still angry with Rem because of she killed Subaru.I mean you may dislike her character but not because of she killed Subaru in previous episodes because of her character as a whole. This ep completely explains why Rem loses her control when she encounters anything that is related to witch somehow.She watched her whole village family being burned alive caused by witch's cult.Her sister lost her only horn because of them which caused her to blame herself since then.Subaru had witch's scent on him and was acting a bit suspicious so...She had her reasons... |
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| suddenly a flashback of characters I wanted to know more about...nice I can see Rem's smile takes many viewers's heart Great to see that Roswaal was the one who killed all those dogs in the end, I don't wanna see subaru suddenly gains great power in a pinch just because he is the MC |
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| Shamac!! so... Ram went full Itachi when she's still young... and Roswall takes both of them after that... glad that Roswall saves the just in time... and... Subaru finally got a date with Emilia-tan next week with new OP & ED... can't wait!! |
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LaxusAK said: bubblin said: so call me slowpoke but is s2 confirmed? No, but the novels and the anime is being really well received and with so much content there most likely will be one. Also, to those arguing about Rem vs. Emilia here's the authors take on the matter. Q: What do you think of this situation where Rem’s popularity has ended up becoming higher than Emilia’s? A: After this there are six arcs remaining where Emilia-tan will continue to be the heroine but, is there a problem somehow? But what does she do???[/whine] |
LoneWizard said: Again...Cant believe how much work they put into smallest things and how they dont rush anything even if it means ANIMATING 3 EXTRA MINUTES EVERY FRICKIN WEEK...Hope in anime restored HONESTLY... I hope that people who thought twins were evil and Subaru should've let them die understood one or two things...Subaru was fortunately a better person than those people thus he gained a lifelong companion probably...Arrogant stupidity and hatred will do bad things to you...Love first to get loved back,give first to get something in return... not to mention that the author wants his whole work animated and white fox is happy to be a part of it, what a great world we live in |
| This is too much fun! I can't wait until next week if only so I know where the next arc is going to reset at! |
| Now you're wondering if there's white text in any of my other posts. Over there, I'm everywhere. I know that. |
| Not my fav ep from the arc actually. and despite the Rem worshipping, I think I prefer Ram out of the two sisters : best smile of the arc Ram ep10 best action emilia ep8 best lines subaru ep8 Ram to subaru ep10 Ram to subaru ep10 Ram to Rem ep11 Even if not perfect, this serie saved the saison for me ... so far. I hope the big-mouth syndrome of subaru won't go too much out of control :) He has some great lines but sometimes ... it's a bit much, like in this ep. I like when they make fun of it though, as in ep10 for example. |
Ysad_ZiwezhanJun 13, 2016 6:43 AM
LoneWizard said: Nigami_Shin said: probably more like Roswall give her mana Fate Stay Night style if you know what i mean ;_;good episode, but i didn't really understand the last scene. does ram try to grow her horn back or does she give her mana/energy to roswaal? Yea.. i was also hoping for dat Mana Transfer ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) |
Tevens said: WHO IS THE BAD ONE AND THE GOOD ONE ? THE DRAGON OR THE WITCH ? ^ that question keep pooping up in my mind since roswal said that he wanted to kill the dragon. i'm starting to think that the witch might be the good one and i'm starting to think that subaru is on the witch side currently cosidering the ability which he has right now (return by death) That's the question I'm asking myself since it was revealed that the Witch destroyed half of the world and devoured the other six witches. It would be way too cliché if the Witch was the evil one and the Dragon was the good one. There's obviously more to it that we still do not know about. The last line by Roswaal made me thinking a lot about it :-P If it was the Witch that brought Subaru to this world, and he is there to help Emilia and Roswaal to win the elections (anyone else noticed when Rem said that if anything bad would happen to the villagers, Roswaal, as the owner of this area, would be held responsible? It would most likely lower the chances of Emilia, which he is currently backing), then it implies that the Witch knows about Roswaal's goal. Which in turn would most likely lead to the Witch being free again. But if the Witch is still powerful enough to bring Subaru to this world, why isn't she able to free herself from the prison? Or use some other measure? Why bring someone from other world to do the task? Was it really the Witch who did it? Maybe all this "witch scent" isn't related to the Witch at all? Too many questions and too little clues to figure it out :-) Jagd84 said: I know she got her emblem stolen and needed that back and all. But why rush into the city knowing you're going to be discriminated against because you're a half-elf/look like the jealous witch? She said herself that her curiosity got the better of her which implies she has never been to the capital and wanted to see what it was like. Theft happened immediately afterwards. This further supported of her reluctance to go to the village until Subaru had to beg her. Otherwise give me a better explanation for why would she go her date with Subaru or why she said people would hate him if he saw with her. I was thinking about it too and the only thing I'm certain of is that it wasn't a coincidence she was in the capital. Felt knew that Emilia will be in the capital that day, and where exactly in this enormously big city. Which means Elsa told her about that. Which implies that someone (Elsa employer perhaps?) lured Emilia to that specific part of the capital. And everything just for stealing the insignia to ruin Emilia's chances of becoming the next rules. So it implies that Emilia's chances for winning the elections are one of the highest, if not the highest. But how it could be if she looks just like Satella, the envious Witch that everyone hates? Could it be that the next ruler will have to make a new contract with the Dragon? And so the chances are so high because she is somehow connected to the Witch and it's assumed she is also powerful (or could be in the near future)? |
mozgowJun 13, 2016 9:24 AM
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| Pretty convincing dialogues, while not anything exciting going on, the fighting lasts too little, the whole episode is satisfactory. In truth, the initial part of the story is interesting, and even the final. Drawings and animations, very good, ditto for the sets. I had a bad feeling in the final, who knows how to end the first season of this anime. First it was a guess, it is now a certainty, that between Ram and Roswaal, there is a link, who knows what kind. I'm curious to find out who is the maid with blonde hair. |
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Tevens said: question : is it wrong for a certain show having such a high score and praise ? question 2 : is it wrong for people to like this show ? Question 3: is it wrong to pick up girls in a dungeon? ...oh wait, I guess that was a slightly better comparison than SOA "kakko-warai" |
Intense_ said: Rem is officialy best girl now I like Emilia too but none can match my Rem maybe only Ram and that's a maybe. Btw I don't understand people who are still angry with Rem because of she killed Subaru.I mean you may dislike her character but not because of she killed Subaru in previous episodes because of her character as a whole. there's something i'm not exactly clear on: the reason they refused to listen to his pleas, maimed him and and murdered him in cold blood. Was it because the curse that was placed on him in the village caused them to act more sadistic and cruel? Or was it literally, "I can smell that this guy has a curse on him, making him suspicious, therefor I will texas chainsaw massacre him" if the curse made them act out of character, then yeah there's no reason to be mad at her anymore. If they literally butchered him because they sensed he had a deathcurse placed on him, then she's pretty deplorable tbh |
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FragOutFire said: 's something i'm not exactly clear on: the reason they refused to listen to his pleas, maimed him and and murdered him in cold blood. acting suspicouis af + Witch's scent = ... you guessed it. |
Raven_Wingz said: I think they made Rem seem so weak. A random boy she knew for a few days makes her feel better than her sister has been trying to do for her entire life? Anyone with a twin or close sibling knows that your twin makes you feel better than ANYONE can. especially jarring because rem already revealed that all their friendliness toward subaru was a lie and that they never actually liked him. In fact, why the fuck did rem fall for Subaru? She's only known him for 4 days. Of those four days, three of those days he had done nothing different with her to change their relationship with him. It was only on that last day that he told her about the curse in the village and they teamed up. She went from thinking he was a spy that needed to die to being in love with him? Basically overnight? I can understand a feeling of regret when she hesitated to save him from the wolves, but what the fuck. |
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| A generic as hell backstory to twins. Of course, blue-hair has feelings for the MC because the harem needs to happen and waifus are necessary as well! I really don't get how anyone can consider ANY character in this Anime as good, let alone great. Subaru in particular is so goddamn bland yet so many people seem to like him. Some people go so far as to call him a deep character, which is hilarious lmao. Oh well, at least this show isn't terrible. Yet. |
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Raisken said: Angry_Always said: True, but in the latest manga arc I won't spoil but I've begun to see Emilia in a light that makes it painful for me to see Subaru go so far for her sake. Also, had to google those names, sorry XD. Never watched blade dance myself, any good? Good, but also not very good adaptation - books are far better. You would propably grow to hate Claire like a lot of people during season 1, since she is a total bitch there :P Ahh the bitchy one. A common occurence haha. What we talking though? Nakina Erina level cold heartedness? Chitoge Tsundere level? The moronic personification of idiocy that is that blue haired girl for Full Metal Panic? |
| I think some people should rewatch the series multiple times. Just a friendly advice. His work ethic to gain the twins trust and that scene with Emilia was very very important esp when Emilia told Rem Subaru was a good person. Her whole perception changed from that moment on leading up to the village part. This series in particular is dialogue heavy and certain minute phrases can pass by if you have no attention span. I'm not an autist so... |
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FragOutFire said: Intense_ said: Rem is officialy best girl now I like Emilia too but none can match my Rem maybe only Ram and that's a maybe. Btw I don't understand people who are still angry with Rem because of she killed Subaru.I mean you may dislike her character but not because of she killed Subaru in previous episodes because of her character as a whole. there's something i'm not exactly clear on: the reason they refused to listen to his pleas, maimed him and and murdered him in cold blood. Was it because the curse that was placed on him in the village caused them to act more sadistic and cruel? Or was it literally, "I can smell that this guy has a curse on him, making him suspicious, therefor I will texas chainsaw massacre him" if the curse made them act out of character, then yeah there's no reason to be mad at her anymore. If they literally butchered him because they sensed he had a deathcurse placed on him, then she's pretty deplorable tbh You are clueless again. This has nothing to do with the curse he received from bites. Rem sensed the scent of the witch, whose followers (apparently) destroyed her village, family, sister's power (the horn) and life in general. Subaru having this scent is a button easy to push for her, and he was acting suspicious as fuck. It's like the devil having a smell and a human having the exact same smell enters your foster house --where people finally accepted you. You'd let that person go? You'd sure torture said person to death. Especially because you said you wouldn't care about these people and would let them die in other threads. |
SirLezardJun 13, 2016 8:51 AM
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Jagd84 said: Rewrite what history? You can't rewirte something that never happened. You might have had point if Rem had still attempted to kill him here, but that never came to pass. So what are you exactly gonna blame this current timeline's Rem for? I wasn't the one who made the history comment, some hardcore Rem lover said "her smile can rewrite history". And I just laughed at that, because a smile can't do anything remotely close. Jagd84 said: Remember this same Rem just risked her life to save his. So why doesn't this count for something while other one does despite being prevented? So? Lmao, yeah, and the same Rem also butchered him twice without bothering to ask why he has that witch's odor, plus Subaru also risked his life to save both her and Ram. More than once, at that. But yeah, a smile totally makes up for that. |
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Maledict said: So? Lmao, yeah, and the same Rem also butchered him twice without bothering to ask why he has that witch's odor, plus Subaru also risked his life to save both her and Ram. More than once, at that. But yeah, a smile totally makes up for that. Why would Subaru blame her for something she hasn't done --in this timeline. He died and restarted. Blaming her for something she did in an other life/dimension/whatever would be very stupid and selfish of him. Because he understands that not everything is so white and black, and that people have different layers to their personality and actions. Fact is, she didn't attack or kill him in this loop. End of story, because there's nothing to blame her anymore as her actions no longer exist. She wouldn't even understand if you explained and hating her would be out of nowhere for her and other people. Pretty stupid. But I guess you guys can't understand such a simple thing? |
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Tony_SansNom said: the scent of the witch that's a very shallow reason to disregard explanations and torture and kill someone and it's beguiling because by the end of this last arc he still has the scent of the witch, but she doesn't even think to address it at all and goes googoo gaga for him a shallow reason to hate him to death, and another shallow reason to patch things up |
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| Yeah, Rem slitting Sub's throat in cold blood is plain unforgivable in my opinion. Crying his eyes out in sadness and she just flat out kills him. I was forming a theory that maybe the stink made her berserk mode, but that was not the case. I thought about defending her at first, but when Sub just started farting out the witch scent at will, I realized she had no excuse to murder him. It was obvious at that point that she could of controlled her demonic bloodlust. Her demon side is very unstable for some reason. When she was a kid it was (as well as Ram's) okay, but I guess her self pity really wrecked her demon side's mental health. :( I suppose she was just disgusted with Sub in general because that's how demons are. They kill while asking questions instead of killing after the questions are done, I guess? Rxm's own kind wanted to kill them for being "defective". Ram is more human because she lost her horn, but Rem is a cold blooded fanatical demon at heart. The ONLY reason she spares him at all in the current lifespan, is because of Emilia. THEN, after that, she accepts him herself, because he managed to patch up her broken self loathing mindset (can be seen as a good reason). Rem has some high requirements to let live! Again, I think Rem+Sub could of been a cute pairing, but the murder scene really killed it. Poor Sub man, one minute she is slicing his throat open and chopping his limbs off, then she is holding his hand while he's near death. I have a feeling his massive slap to her head was some of his previous anger towards her. It could be that she really is just as stupid (hey- both called themselves stupid, I'm not insulting them, I'm repeating them) as him, and that's why she killed him- she's too stupid to think any reason not to. His "fanatical demon" side must be what turns her on. He really is acting like a maniac lately, so his insanity probably really is his best weapon and ally at this point. It got some through some thick messes this round. xD |
Raven_WingzJun 13, 2016 9:54 AM
FragOutFire said: Tony_SansNom said: the scent of the witch that's a very shallow reason to disregard explanations and torture and kill someone and it's beguiling because by the end of this last arc he still has the scent of the witch, but she doesn't even think to address it at all and goes googoo gaga for him a shallow reason to hate him to death, and another shallow reason to patch things up You missed the most important part: Tony_SansNom said: This has nothing to do with the curse he received from bites. Rem sensed the scent of the witch, whose followers (apparently) destroyed her village, family, sister's power (the horn) and life in general. Subaru having this scent is a button easy to push for her, and he was acting suspicious as fuck. It's like the devil having a smell and a human having the exact same smell enters your foster house --where people finally accepted you. You'd let that person go? You'd sure torture said person to death. Especially because you said you wouldn't care about these people and would let them die in other threads. And the scent was addressed when they made a promise to talk about it later. I didn't happened yet, but I'm certain it will in the future. |
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FragOutFire said: Her actions come from 1-a past trauma(thus witchs smell) + 2-a sense of responsibility to protect her sister(and others) + 3-Subaru's suspicious actions...Tony_SansNom said: the scent of the witch and it's beguiling because by the end of this last arc he still has the scent of the witch, but she doesn't even think to address it at all and goes googoo gaga for him 1-In this world she almost let him die because of first reason,witchs smell as we saw in that mini flashback of Rem in this episode 2,3-She is convinced that Subaru wont harm anyone because of his actions(saving her life,saving villagers,saving emilia) Raven_Wingz said: I thought it was confirmed that Ram killed him,not Remduring the torture thingy no?I suppose she was just disgusted with Sub in general because that's how demons are. They kill while asking questions instead of killing after the questions are done, I guess? Rxm's own kind wanted to kill them for being "defective". Ram is more human because she lost her horn, but Rem is a cold blooded fanatical demon at heart. The ONLY reason she spares him at all, is because of Emilia. |
LoneWizzyJun 13, 2016 9:57 AM
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Jagd84 said: TeamDalaiLana said: Rem is the main character. The next arc will still be about her. You might be a bit disappointed then. Jagd84 said: LaxusAK said: The next arc is all about Subarus development huh. I already like his character so far but seeing him change will probably make me like him even more( I think @Fappa even said something about how everyone'll view Subaru differently after this arc). We only just finished arc 2, so I'm glad that author isn't trying to shove Emilia development with the twins development at the same time. She already probably has a couple of volumes dedicated to her issues,so I'm assuming the author just doesn't introduce them early on. This is a long ass story after all. This is almost guaranteed to have a second season with the hype this is getting as well as all the extra content still available. Good god. More people who finally gets how story development works. If show gets 2nd season or anyone reads beyond what the anime will look really silly for complaining about such an obvious traditional narrative structure. Almost freaking character get delved into one point as stated by me, @Fappa and others who know the source. So this manufactured argument/controversy is soo dumb. Question, does this mean that unless this show receives a second season (which is highly unlikely anytime soon considering that it's already taking up two seasons worth of broadcasting slots...), then Emilia's "development" won't be coming since the next dozen or so episodes will be essentially the entire third arc and the focus is on Balls with Rem as support? So Emilia's characterization will remain as a trophy with a ambiguous backstory with not much characteristics apart from someone whom Barusu puts on a pedestal because she laughs at his horrible jokes and worships for being "pure" even though none of us viewers actually know (yet) if she's actually pure or just faking it? |
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L-Ryoshi said: So Emilia's characterization will remain as a trophy with a ambiguous backstory with not much characteristics apart from someone whom Barusu puts on a pedestal because she laughs at his horrible jokes and worships for being "pure" even though none of us viewers actually know (yet) if she's actually pure or just faking it? Pretty much my problem with her. There are ways to make her interesting without even focusing on her that much or giving her an "arc". Right now it is taking the Sakura approach which is ughhhh |
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| Perfect episode. We got to learn more about Rem and Ram's, and it wasn't pleasant. Seems like Rem felt inferior to her sister and I can't blame her. And Roswaal saved the day. This arc was pretty good and enjoyable. Can't wait for the highly anticipated next arc. |
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| this episode was meh, like why did she lose her demon horn? who were those attacking and why did Rem or those guys kill all the villagers, if that one guy manage to cut her horn why didn't he kill her? why is the Rich guy from the mansion rescue her? maybe i didn't understand it but in case someone reads my comment please try to explain it to me XD |
FragOutFire said: Tony_SansNom said: the scent of the witch that's a very shallow reason to disregard explanations and torture and kill someone and it's beguiling because by the end of this last arc he still has the scent of the witch, but she doesn't even think to address it at all and goes googoo gaga for him a shallow reason to hate him to death, and another shallow reason to patch things up Shallow?I'm sorry but did you really pay attention throughout the episodes. Jelaous witch is the N1 enemy of this world she is like the devil of our world.A person who has her scent on him just shows up from nowhere and acts really close to Emilia who is a candidate for the crown a very important individual.He stays for a couple of days as a GUEST and then tries to leave doesn't it look suspicious?The scent of the witch is pretty big deal.Not even gonna talk about her traumatic past.This is the explanation for the last timeline why she killed Subaru. Now why was she convinced that he was innocent.The first reason is remember the lap pillow scene where Emilia said ''Rem,Subaru is a good person.'' this was basically an order for Rem to not to kill him. And I think you are also missing the conversation between Rem and Subaru in Episode 9 where Subaru said ''You can find me because of the witch's scent'' they even promised each other to talk about this topic after they save the kids and come back to village safely Rem even said ''I'm gonna ask you a lot of questions so be ready'' so even though Emilia said he was a good person she still hadn't been entirely convinced that he was innocent. She didn't forget about the scent but their first priority was to save kids and return to village.Unfortunetely Subaru almost DIED while trying to save her and that isn't really a thing that an enemy would do for her. Finally in this episode he just faced that puppy which really isn't a puppy to buy some time.Another time Subaru risks his life to save hers and her sister's. So...NO she didn't just go googoo gaga for him without a reason. |
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mozgow said: I was thinking about it too and the only thing I'm certain of is that it wasn't a coincidence she was in the capital. Felt knew that Emilia will be in the capital that day, and where exactly in this enormously big city. Which means Elsa told her about that. Which implies that someone (Elsa employer perhaps?) lured Emilia to that specific part of the capital. And everything just for stealing the insignia to ruin Emilia's chances of becoming the next rules. So it implies that Emilia's chances for winning the elections are one of the highest, if not the highest. But how it could be if she looks just like Satella, the envious Witch that everyone hates? Could it be that the next ruler will have to make a new contract with the Dragon? And so the chances are so high because she is somehow connected to the Witch and it's assumed she is also powerful (or could be in the near future)? So far all we know that Dragon sigil seem to be what determines candidacy. It whether it takes a person past or not account is not known. Emilia most likely has some connection to the Witch of Envy due to having both of her known, but as far we know she could just be a decedent. L-Ryoshi said: Jagd84 said: Good god. More people who finally gets how story development works. If show gets 2nd season or anyone reads beyond what the anime will look really silly for complaining about such an obvious traditional narrative structure. Almost freaking character get delved into one point as stated by me, @Fappa and others who know the source. So this manufactured argument/controversy is soo dumb. Question, does this mean that unless this show receives a second season (which is highly unlikely anytime soon considering that it's already taking up two seasons worth of broadcasting slots...), then Emilia's "development" won't be coming since the next dozen or so episodes will be essentially the entire third arc and the focus is on Balls with Rem as support? So Emilia's characterization will remain as a trophy with a ambiguous backstory with not much characteristics apart from someone whom Barusu puts on a pedestal because she laughs at his horrible jokes and worships for being "pure" even though none of us viewers actually know (yet) if she's actually pure or just faking it? Ok enough with this. How in the world goddamn world is someone who has a strong personality, can take care of herself, is fairly feisty, socialy awkward and holds a major position in country a trophy? Yes he's in love with her but she isn't throwing herself at him and despite his flirtations and Subaru himself is pretty respectful her. She shows him a bit of kindness and earnestly grateful for he did back in the first arc which has led them to become friends. Seriously who cares if he attracted to her or not? There is nothing wrong with that, it has nothing to do about Emilia herself. My point is just like everyone else facets of her character have and will gradually continued to be revealed. Her past supposed to be shrouded in mystery because has biggest influence on the plot. Whether we find out about her backstory next arc is irrelvant because we will know about when talk about it, just like in this episode. And going by that logic Ram is trophy for Rem and Puck is trophy for Beako. I have no know idea some you can go around twisting a person's character so forcibly but has to commended on some level. |
Iron_MawJun 13, 2016 4:25 PM
Fai said: You have a point with your comparison with Senjougahara...But remember that is only possible cuz of Isin's writing style of showing things form different perspectives...L-Ryoshi said: So Emilia's characterization will remain as a trophy with a ambiguous backstory with not much characteristics apart from someone whom Barusu puts on a pedestal because she laughs at his horrible jokes and worships for being "pure" even though none of us viewers actually know (yet) if she's actually pure or just faking it? Pretty much my problem with her. There are ways to make her interesting without even focusing on her that much or giving her an "arc". Right now it is taking the Sakura approach which is ughhhh And that Sakura comparison is %99 wrong...Sakura appeared only in the last quarter of VN whereas in here Emilia had moments in first arc and will get more in the near future probably...LN is long and its still introduction arcs... |
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LoneWizard said: Fai said: You have a point with your comparison with Senjougahara...But remember that is only possible cuz of Isin's writing style of showing things form different perspectives...Pretty much my problem with her. There are ways to make her interesting without even focusing on her that much or giving her an "arc". Right now it is taking the Sakura approach which is ughhhh And that Sakura comparison is %99 wrong...Sakura appeared only in the last quarter of VN whereas in here Emilia had moments in first arc and will get more in the near future probably...LN is long and its still introduction arcs... Errr...no? Sakura is constant SOL element through the entirety of narrative in all three routes. I don't blame you from tuning her out tho as its pretty much same scene on repeat. There are actually quite a lot of similarities to Emilia's appearances in Arc 2, except that it lacks cooking scenes. And Emilia in Arc1 was kind of better characterization too. But as far as Arc2 goes, the comparison is VERY apt - Emilia appears, acts cute, MC comments on cuteness, Emilia disappears, then plot happens. Of course Arc2 of ReZero takes it further with the whole Trophy aspect. |
AhenshihaelJun 13, 2016 3:22 PM
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Fai said: Sakura never did anything other than cooking and blushing...Cant believe you are comparing Emilia with Sakura in that regard...Errr...no? Sakura is constant SOL element through the entirety of narrative. I don't blame you from tuning her out tho. There are actually quite a lot of similarities to Emilia's appearances in Arc 2, except that it lacks cooking scenes. And Emilia in Arc1 was kind of better characterization too. But as far as Arc2 goes, the comparison is VERY apt. All we knew about Sakura until the second half of HF was the fact that she was in good terms with Emiya,bad terms with Rin and Niisan,is in archery club and cooks good shit...Emilia on the other hand is at the center of everything with her political involvement,being a psychological support for Subaru,being a magician who involved in fights...her being passive in arc 2 doesnt change what happened in arc 1... |
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LoneWizard said: Fai said: Sakura never did anything other than cooking and blushing...Cant believe you are comparing Emilia with Sakura in that regard...Errr...no? Sakura is constant SOL element through the entirety of narrative. I don't blame you from tuning her out tho. There are actually quite a lot of similarities to Emilia's appearances in Arc 2, except that it lacks cooking scenes. And Emilia in Arc1 was kind of better characterization too. But as far as Arc2 goes, the comparison is VERY apt. All we knew about Sakura until the second half of HF was the fact that she was in good terms with Emiya,bad terms with Rin and Niisan,is in archery club and cooks good shit...Emilia on the other hand is at the center of everything with her political involvement,being a psychological support for Subaru,being a magician who involved in fights...her being passive in arc 2 doesnt change what happened in arc 1... Nah man. You see she all been nothing but just "muh waifu" or whatever that nonsense means just because she has good chemistry with Subaru. minor spoiler |
Iron_MawJun 13, 2016 3:49 PM
Jagd84 said: THis a really neat touch. For @kerowolf and anyone who wants to know what the kids wrote about him in this scene:  Thank you for carrying Rem-rin to safety. You were lame, but kinda cool. Let's do Radio Calesthenics when you get better. I like you. Ahhh, thank you so much! That really is a wonderful little touch. Can I ask where you can find how to translate the alphabet? Is it in the manga? Haven't seen much about it in the anime so far. |
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