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Apr 3, 2016 5:18 PM
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Why are my people being oppressed?

Madness!
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Apr 3, 2016 5:41 PM
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nah not really
I fill my bara quota pretty often
unless you mean as protagonists
Apr 3, 2016 5:52 PM
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You.mean.like.this.character?.
Apr 3, 2016 5:52 PM
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asian is not that hairy, what do you expect mate?
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Apr 3, 2016 5:58 PM
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KuuhakuDesu said:
I have lolis.

There's no need for guys with beards.


This pretty much is how i feel about this thread.

But i guess it is fair to fulfil everyone's likes.
Apr 3, 2016 6:01 PM
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what have i found here....................

Apr 3, 2016 6:02 PM
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Japanese people don't grow beards until they're like 50 since they have to preserve their hair growing energy for their pubes.
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Apr 3, 2016 6:10 PM
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I'm talking shit like this:



99% of "attractive" male characters are clean shaven, spikey haired mofos.
Apr 3, 2016 6:16 PM
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Personally , i wouldn't say "Anime is lacking attractive bearded men" but "Anime is lacking attractive bearded men as Main Character" , you have some "attractive" bearded men here and there but most are like 40+ Years old and doesn't get much screentime .
romagia said:
what have i found here....................

What is that ? XD
Apr 3, 2016 6:21 PM

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Vita_Aeterna said:
I'm talking shit like this:



99% of "attractive" male characters are clean shaven, spikey haired mofos.
So the generic lead for many western video games and tv shows...no thanks.
Apr 3, 2016 6:23 PM

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Yukhio said:
Personally , i wouldn't say "Anime is lacking attractive bearded men" but "Anime is lacking attractive bearded men as Main Character" , you have some "attractive" bearded men here and there but most are like 40+ Years old and doesn't get much screentime .
romagia said:
what have i found here....................

What is that ? XD
a bizzare photoshop of a bizzare evangelion ad

http://eva-not-end.com/Portal/uploads/1347099876/gallery_15345_40_800169.jpg

should be noted that the glass guy is a famously bearded character

http://myanimelist.net/character/1257/Gendou_Ikari
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romagia said:
Yukhio said:
Personally , i wouldn't say "Anime is lacking attractive bearded men" but "Anime is lacking attractive bearded men as Main Character" , you have some "attractive" bearded men here and there but most are like 40+ Years old and doesn't get much screentime .
What is that ? XD
a bizzare photoshop of a bizzare evangelion ad

http://eva-not-end.com/Portal/uploads/1347099876/gallery_15345_40_800169.jpg

should be noted that the glass guy is a famously bearded character

http://myanimelist.net/character/1257/Gendou_Ikari
i see , thanks
The guy who made this , is a genius
Apr 3, 2016 6:31 PM

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I agree OP, this is madness! Oppression at its finest. Give them attractive af breaded bishie already.

Also while we're at it give me more gorgeous redhead 2D/anime girls.
Apr 3, 2016 6:32 PM
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It's because the 'lumbersexual' isn't an established beauty archetype in Japan.
Apr 3, 2016 6:50 PM

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crestofhonesty said:
I agree OP, this is madness! Oppression at its finest. Give them attractive af breaded bishie already.

Also while we're at it give me more gorgeous redhead 2D/anime girls.


I want more headstrong, powerful and mature women as female leads in anime without any dere elements or anime rubbish like moe/ loli etc.

see: Yennefer of Vengerburg from The Witcher books/ games.
Apr 3, 2016 6:58 PM

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Vita_Aeterna said:
I want more headstrong, powerful and mature women as female leads in anime without any dere elements or anime rubbish like moe/ loli etc.

Obviously that'd be lovely as hell! Though, probably highly unlikely/rare given most of the audience of anime and such.

A character being a redhead has nothing to do with being headstrong, powerful, or mature though.

Holo from Spice and Wolf is one of my absolute favourite female characters from most any medium and she's a redhead. Doesn't take away from her character being exquisitely written at all.

If people are looking for better female characters anime is the last place to look.
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crestofhonesty said:
Vita_Aeterna said:
I want more headstrong, powerful and mature women as female leads in anime without any dere elements or anime rubbish like moe/ loli etc.

Obviously that'd be lovely as hell! Though, probably highly unlikely/rare given most of the audience of anime and such.

A character being a redhead has nothing to do with being headstrong, powerful, or mature though.

Holo from Spice and Wolf is one of my absolute favourite female characters from most any medium and she's a redhead. Doesn't take away from her character being exquisitely written at all.

If people are looking for better female characters anime is the last place to look.

I totally forgot about Holo, I'd say she's in my top 5 of favorite female leads.

And yes, you're absolutely right about the last sentence, there's not much to be done about it.
Apr 3, 2016 7:09 PM

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Vita_Aeterna said:
I totally forgot about Holo, I'd say she's in my top 5 of favorite female leads.

And yes, you're absolutely right about the last sentence, there's not much to be done about it.

Yes! Holo is fantastic. She's not just all beauty, she has substance, and a lot of it.

Mhmm, Unfortunately. I read a lot of western comics as well, and it fails at having good female leads/characters too, more often than not. Though, they are actually, surprising, more prominent than in manga and anime.

Some females that come to mind from western comics are Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), Black Canary, Ms. Marvel/Captain Marvel, Raven (from Teen Titans; mainly in the comics, though, love her in the show, lol).
Apr 3, 2016 7:19 PM

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Kuma said:
asian is not that hairy, what do you expect mate?


By following that logic, busty girls wouldn't exist in anime.
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crestofhonesty said:
Vita_Aeterna said:
I totally forgot about Holo, I'd say she's in my top 5 of favorite female leads.

And yes, you're absolutely right about the last sentence, there's not much to be done about it.

Yes! Holo is fantastic. She's not just all beauty, she has substance, and a lot of it.

Mhmm, Unfortunately. I read a lot of western comics as well, and it fails at having good female leads/characters too, more often than not. Though, they are actually, surprising, more prominent than in manga and anime.

Some females that come to mind from western comics are Batgirl (Barbara Gordon), Black Canary, Ms. Marvel/Captain Marvel, Raven (from Teen Titans; mainly in the comics, though, love her in the show, lol).


I've never been much into western comics beyond my childhood years, which was composed of mostly European comics like Tintin and Asterix.

Anyways, I only brought up strong female leads is because watching anime has made me frustrated at how they handle a lot of things, some trivial (see this topic's OP) and some important issues like strong, complex female leads. Holo and Chihaya are really good characters that come close to that ideal when it comes to it.
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edemidnight said:
Kuma said:
asian is not that hairy, what do you expect mate?


By following that logic, busty girls wouldn't exist in anime.
pls, big breast is common fetish unlike hairy. and asian people does find big busty appealing but hairy is not. so your logic is not fair.
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Apr 3, 2016 7:37 PM

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Do you mean a manly man like this one?

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Apr 3, 2016 7:38 PM
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Sad times, still disappointed FREE's lack of hairy people.

Tiger & Bunny mc. Great laid back character
http://myanimelist.net/character/40851/Kotetsu_T_Kaburagi

Dimension W mc. Haven't seen but he looks cool
http://myanimelist.net/anime/31163/Dimension_W

Gundam Orphans Makanai, an important side character. Goregeous white beard.

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Kuma said:
edemidnight said:


By following that logic, busty girls wouldn't exist in anime.
pls, big breast is common fetish unlike hairy. and asian people does find big busty appealing but hairy is not. so your logic is not fair.


Soo first was an asian features thing. now is a fetishes thing. k got it
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edemidnight said:
Kuma said:
pls, big breast is common fetish unlike hairy. and asian people does find big busty appealing but hairy is not. so your logic is not fair.


Soo first was an asian features thing. now is a fetishes thing. k got it
what i mean is what asian people find appealing. anime is japanese (asian) product to japanese (asian) people.

stop using western as standard of the world. and no, i don't suggest it have to asian either. just accept that they are culture gap. thread like this make me faceplaming like "thick kawai" in another thread.
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Vita_Aeterna said:
Anyways, I only brought up strong female leads is because watching anime has made me frustrated at how they handle a lot of things, some trivial (see this topic's OP) and some important issues like strong, complex female leads. Holo and Chihaya are really good characters that come close to that ideal when it comes to it.

Yes! Chihaya is a great female character too.
I agree, anime tends to handle their female characters very poorly. It's a shame.
Also anime loves to have that cookie cutter male MC.

In regards to western comics, they're much better once you thoroughly dive into them.
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Kuma said:
asian is not that hairy, what do you expect mate?


Thats not true.
Japanese are the most hairy!
Sounds weird to be said like that, but they grow more facial and pubic hair than the other Asian demographics.

Koreans probably being the least.

(But if you count Indians being Asian than they are definitely the most hairy)
Apr 3, 2016 8:12 PM

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Slowpoke_ said:
Kuma said:
asian is not that hairy, what do you expect mate?


Thats not true.
Japanese are the most hairy!
Sounds weird to be said like that, but they grow more facial and pubic hair than the other Asian demographics.

Koreans probably being the least.

(But if you count Indians being Asian than they are definitely the most hairy)
agreed, but compare to wstern, it still very less. (well, indian and arabs even in asia continent, it mostly caucasoid people).

it's probably offensive to say but asian (or mongoloid to be more accurate) didn't find hairy to be hygenic and neat, and common asian people dislike it, including japan. when someone want to go to meet many people or important people, there is pretty common habit to shaving before attandance it. i don't said everyone, but most.
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Kuma said:
edemidnight said:


Soo first was an asian features thing. now is a fetishes thing. k got it
what i mean is what asian people find appealing. anime is japanese (asian) product to japanese (asian) people.

stop using western as standard of the world. and no, i don't suggest it have to asian either. just accept that they are culture gap. thread like this make me faceplaming like "thick kawai" in another thread.


Dude I was just pointing out your flawed logic. never mentioned anything about standards or whatever. I mean I don't even care, they're just cartoons ffs
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edemidnight said:
Kuma said:
what i mean is what asian people find appealing. anime is japanese (asian) product to japanese (asian) people.

stop using western as standard of the world. and no, i don't suggest it have to asian either. just accept that they are culture gap. thread like this make me faceplaming like "thick kawai" in another thread.


Dude I was just pointing out your flawed logic. never mentioned anything about standards or whatever. I mean I don't even care, they're just cartoons ffs
ooppsss, my second sentance is for this thread, not you. sorry. and of course it's just cartoon, why would anyone take it seriously?
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Slowpoke_ said:
Kuma said:
asian is not that hairy, what do you expect mate?


Thats not true.
Japanese are the most hairy!
Sounds weird to be said like that, but they grow more facial and pubic hair than the other Asian demographics.

Koreans probably being the least.

(But if you count Indians being Asian than they are definitely the most hairy)



Speaking of Koreans, this is the only attractive East Asian gentleman I know that can grow a full beard.
Apr 3, 2016 9:28 PM

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Vita_Aeterna said:

Speaking of Koreans, this is the only attractive East Asian gentleman I know that can grow a full beard.


Unff
Siwon is the sexiest Korean man to exist
Apr 3, 2016 10:06 PM

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I think the author just being lazy. Drawing bearded man probably too much work for them. Who knows~ xD
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Major123 said:
Vita_Aeterna said:
I'm talking shit like this:



99% of "attractive" male characters are clean shaven, spikey haired mofos.
So the generic lead for many western video games and tv shows...no thanks.


This is actually a good point. Japan does a lot of things opposite to how Western media does them, this is just one of many. The last thing anime needs is gruff, middle aged brown haired bearded men. What anime needs is bearded WOMEN. Mikasa should have had a beard to go with her killer abs.
Apr 3, 2016 11:22 PM

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east asian countries have developed a very feminine beauty standard for men. look at all those male idols or models - girls with short hair.
but i think the biggest reason is that most mc's are teenagers

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well, indian and arabs even in asia continent, it mostly caucasoid people

indians and arabs aren't caucasians. don't mix us together with those people


Apr 3, 2016 11:23 PM

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Beards are not attractive

End of the story
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Nigami_Shin said:
east asian countries have developed a very feminine beauty standard for men. look at all those male idols or models - girls with short hair.
but i think the biggest reason is that most mc's are teenagers

Kuma said:
well, indian and arabs even in asia continent, it mostly caucasoid people

indians and arabs aren't caucasians. don't mix us together with those people

Most Europeans aren't "Caucasians" either. North Indians and Persians are both genetically and linguistically speaking related groups of people to the Europeans we know today.
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Most popular characters to ever come out of Japan say otherwise.
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Well, as i understand, asians (more towards Japan, S. Korea, etc) tend have a less natural growth of facial hair than westerns. Its not a fact, just an assumption.
But more importantly, there is a little story behind it where even today some (not to say "the most") asians (japanese in this case) see facial hair as "bad". Look at the term "Ainu", then you'll understand. Even today they (the so called Ainu) are looked as primitiv just because of the stronger growth of facial hair in north japan. Yeah, today that "discrimination" went down, but it still is on. E.g. as a salary-man you are fired just for facial hair in some parts of japan. We could have a whole discussion to see if its right or not (i think its not), but that sadly still remains a fact.
And of course, in most Anime, the main cast are often teenagers or early 20s. By that time, they naturally dont have that facial hair growth, in anime you mostly see that in older men or men that dont give a damn about society values that much.
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Japan in general needs more attractive bearded men. In their culture they're supposed to shave until they're at least middle aged. I've heard in a video that it is acceptable to have a bit of hair on your face, but it should be kept fairly bare.
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MahadoKusanagi said:
Well, as i understand, asians (more towards Japan, S. Korea, etc) tend have a less natural growth of facial hair than westerns. Its not a fact, just an assumption.
But more importantly, there is a little story behind it where even today some (not to say "the most") asians (japanese in this case) see facial hair as "bad". Look at the term "Ainu", then you'll understand. Even today they (the so called Ainu) are looked as primitiv just because of the stronger growth of facial hair in north japan. Yeah, today that "discrimination" went down, but it still is on. E.g. as a salary-man you are fired just for facial hair in some parts of japan. We could have a whole discussion to see if its right or not (i think its not), but that sadly still remains a fact.
And of course, in most Anime, the main cast are often teenagers or early 20s. By that time, they naturally dont have that facial hair growth, in anime you mostly see that in older men or men that dont give a damn about society values that much.

Thank you for your informative post. I have heard of the indigenous Aiunu people before. Your last point is correct though, most anime are targeted to teenagers or young adults, who usually don't/can't sport any significant facial hair.
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romagia said:
what have i found here....................

thank you for sharing with us this artwork.
Apr 4, 2016 12:47 AM

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I think we're doing pretty well in that department.
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Apr 4, 2016 12:52 AM

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Nope, bearded men is common,
Hairy armphit is the rare one

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1491288
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Because Japanese dudes tend to no be very "Beardy". And even if they're not portraying Japanese people, i think the logic behind it is "Beards are for old people"...
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Kingdom is all about bearded Chinese men, warring over who has the best beard in all of China. Well, something along those lines at least.

Too bad the anime (at least the first season) is fairly lackluster. Unless you prefer CGI beards. Still has one of the most bearded casts of any anime I have seen though.
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Apr 4, 2016 5:39 AM

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It is easier to draw someone beard-less than someone bearded
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I agree! As a lady I fully support the idea of more bearded men in anime. Men get their big bouncy boobies, I just want a nice beard to look at.
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