Clebardman said: Chiibi said: Even if you exclude those, the original NGE TV series stayed away from incest, misandry, and kitten-drowning so that puts it WAY above Utena for me.......which did nothing of the sort. I could argue that there's incestuous love in NGE but I understand your PoV ^^. Lol, I knew you'd make that argument but it's not quite the same. ReixShinji AnthyxAkio NO. No no no nono no ew ew ew ew ew ew. |
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| I love yuri (not as much as I love yaoi tho) and I'm ok with light/explicit yuri, whatever it is. Since it's not only some bs fanservice for men to fap... wait... I like it anyway so |
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| You're acting like that relationship was portrayed positively (which it clearly wasn't). If there's one pairing in this show that was demonized to hell and back, it was most certainly this one (and rightfully so). |
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Sapewloth said: You're acting like that relationship was portrayed positively (which it clearly wasn't). If there's one pairing in this show that was demonized to hell and back, it was most certainly this one (and rightfully so). What? I said Not only in an unhealthy relationship but Where did you get "portrayed positively" in that statement? |
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Chiibi said: I got from the fact that you seemed to complain about the very existence of that pairing and that its inclusion somehow made Utena a lesser show. Ofc it's a disgusting relationship, but unless it was portrayed as anything other than disgusting or glorified or lacked context/meaning then I don't see why it would be a problem.Sapewloth said: You're acting like that relationship was portrayed positively (which it clearly wasn't). If there's one pairing in this show that was demonized to hell and back, it was most certainly this one (and rightfully so). What? I said Not only in an unhealthy relationship but Where did you get "portrayed positively" in that statement? |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
| Let's just assume that most men hate yaoi and women find it interesting, and vice versa. It's a gender thing, and there's nothing wrong with it. |
Sapewloth said: ]I got from the fact that you seemed to complain about the very existence of that pairing and that its inclusion somehow made Utena a lesser show. Ofc it's a disgusting relationship, but unless it was portrayed as anything other than disgusting or glorified or lacked context/meaning then I don't see why it would be a problem. It's a problem for me because it's disgusting no matter how it's portrayed? Disgusting content in a show automatically lowers its score....because how the f*ck am I supposed to be entertained by that....or take anything of value? It also added to the pretentiousness: "OMG LOOK, WE BREAK TABOOS. WE ARE SO DEEP AND EDGY." Lol, f*ck off, Ikuhara. |
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| I love yuri, but I agree there's not really enough yuri in anime, sadly, I must say I do enjoy more Yuri when its "hidden" in subtext, meaning I have to put my yuri googles, it makes it more fun (this applys to yaoi aswell lol) and talking about Utena, I think the anime was really good, but in my opinion it could have been better if it we're shorter. |
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Chiibi said: but you don't have to be "entertained" by every aspect of a show in order for it to be good, do you?Sapewloth said: ]I got from the fact that you seemed to complain about the very existence of that pairing and that its inclusion somehow made Utena a lesser show. Ofc it's a disgusting relationship, but unless it was portrayed as anything other than disgusting or glorified or lacked context/meaning then I don't see why it would be a problem. It's a problem for me because it's disgusting no matter how it's portrayed? Disgusting content in a show automatically lowers its score....because how the f*ck am I supposed to be entertained by that....or take anything of value? NGE has its fair share of unhealthy relationships and behaviors, which translate into scenes that may be hard to watch for the viewer, and that aren't by definition "entertaining" . Do they make NGE a lesser show for it? Same for countless mangas and anime that treat sensitive subjects or may include brutal scenes, really. It's fine if you're not okay with some stuff but saying there's automatically nothing of value to take from it just because it makes you feel uncomfortable seems like a stretch. |
SapewlothFeb 18, 2016 3:51 PM
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Sapewloth said: Chiibi said: but you don't have to be "entertained" by every aspect of a show in order for it to be good, do you?It's a problem for me because it's disgusting no matter how it's portrayed? Disgusting content in a show automatically lowers its score....because how the f*ck am I supposed to be entertained by that....or take anything of value? NGE has its faor share of unhealthy relationships and behaviors, which translate into scenes that may be hard to watch for the viewer, that aren't by définition "entertaining" . Do they make NGE a lesser show for it? Same for countless mangas and anime that treat sensitive subjects or may include brutal scenes, really. It's fine if you're not okay with some stuff bit saying there's automatically nothing of value to take from it just because it makes you feel uncomfortable seems like a stretch. All true......but unfortunately the ONLY thing I liked about Utena was some of the background imagery and the music. XD I thought NGE had much more to offer. Yuri fangirls from my experience are misandrists. Yuri fanboys from my experience are misogynists. SO FREAKING TRUE. That's why I'm not friends with most yuri fans. lol |
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| @Chiibi that's just bcz u didnt get it /jk Funny that you gave the movie a 10, tho |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
Oh I "got" it all right. Its message was basically "Men suck. Be a lesbian." Did I SERIOUSLY? :/ ......it was so long ago.....lol I better fix that......well, it WAS pretty to look at..... |
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| Not sure what to expect when I watch Utena anymore... Thanks, MAL |
Mayuka said: expect nothing, that way you won't be disappointed if you end up disliking it.Not sure what to expect when I watch Utena anymore... Thanks, MAL |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
Sapewloth said: Mayuka said: expect nothing, that way you won't be disappointed if you end up disliking it.Not sure what to expect when I watch Utena anymore... Thanks, MAL I can say one thing that fans and anti-fans will agree on.... "Expect weird". It's a very weird show. |
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| Well, I've already seen Yuri Bears and Penguindrum. Can't get any worse, right? ;p |
Mayuka said: yeah, you pretty much know what to expect then x)Well, I've already seen Yuri Bears and Penguindrum. Can't get any worse, right? ;p |
| Proud founder of The Official Anti-Ging Freecss Fan Club Join now! Kellhus said: GuusWayne said: there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat. |
Mayuka said: Well, I've already seen Yuri Bears and Penguindrum. Can't get any worse, right? ;p If you watched Yuri Bears, you will be able to handle the Utena. XD ........it's not as cute though. D: |
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| I'm female and I prefer yuri more than yaoi. |
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| I'm a bisexual girl, but I've yet to find some yuri that seems appealing to me. The girls are so moe and shit that their romance is so sugary I get diabetes. And oh god, the voices, the faces, everything looks so fake... I always get the feeling I'm watching something aimed at guys that have no idea of how a woman's body works. I don't really like hentai for the same reason. I'm quite the fujoshi, even though many yaoi suck(pun intended) with the frequent abusive relationships, I've found already a few decent ones. |
VictalecFeb 18, 2016 5:26 PM
| i prefer shoujo ai over yuri, but i have watched Valkyrie Drive: Mermaid which was basically a softcore porn lesbian anime. having a girlfriend myself, i still surprisingly prefer shounen ai and yaoi over yuri. (though shoujo ai gets my pick for cutest tbh) |
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dizzyur said: It doesn't always happen, but I'll give an example; Shizaya, Shizaya, SHIZAYA. Shizuo and Izaya shippers are the WORST when it comes to reducing two characters in a hateship to complete and utter stereotypes; taking all their abusive aspects and problems, throwing their obvious hatred for one another out the window, completely fucking up character and canon. Hell, I don't even care about canon because I butcher it all the time in my separate writing work, but to make them into dimensionless caricatures of the genre, just 'seme' or 'uke' roles, when I know damn well they can be more, that pisses me off. I admit that I enjoy Shizaya slash doujinshi myself.....but I definitely don't take the ship seriously. It's a big joke to me more than anything else; a very amusing one. I also think Shizuo and Varona would be a cute pair |
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| I don't like yaoi or yuri, personally |
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MeganekkoAmy said: I'm a bisexual girl, but I've yet to find some yuri that seems appealing to me. The girls are so moe and shit that their romance is so sugary I get diabetes. And oh god, the voices, the faces, everything looks so fake... I always get the feeling I'm watching something aimed at guys that have no idea of how a woman's body works. I don't really like hentai for the same reason. I'm quite the fujoshi, even though many yaoi suck(pun intended) with the frequent abusive relationships, I've found already a few decent ones. Manga is your best friend. ........ |
AltoRoark99 said: MeganekkoAmy said: I'm a bisexual girl, but I've yet to find some yuri that seems appealing to me. The girls are so moe and shit that their romance is so sugary I get diabetes. And oh god, the voices, the faces, everything looks so fake... I always get the feeling I'm watching something aimed at guys that have no idea of how a woman's body works. I don't really like hentai for the same reason. I'm quite the fujoshi, even though many yaoi suck(pun intended) with the frequent abusive relationships, I've found already a few decent ones. Manga is your best friend. ........ In manga I still suffer with the creepy faces, the extra moe girls and the whole scenes being targeted at guys. :'3 |
MeganekkoAmy said: Ask @Comic_Sans for recommendations since both of you are bisexual.In manga I still suffer with the creepy faces, the extra moe girls and the whole scenes being targeted at guys. :'3 |
katemonster123 said: i prefer shoujo ai over yuri Same here lol. What we need is love story and romance LOL |
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| I really like yuri but I hate yaoi. I don't even know why. |
| Not my cup of tea, but I know two girls that do. |
| Explicit yuri? I'd like some of that in anime... that doesn't troll suddenly turning into a threesome with a guy. Anyway, Dynasty scans is my home, so I love yuri of all kinds. And that is why 2D > 3D. |
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| I'm not straight so I love yuri. x3 I want to see more of it. |
| Being a guy when it comes to yaoi or yuri I won't watch it Explicit but if it's over all just a cute story i'll watch it because of the feels. But I don't watch hentai anyways so yeah. Basically open for either as long as it isn't explicit. But I'm straight o.O |
*just accidental reader* thanks for the advices! :) |
| I have nothing against it, I can enjoy Yuri just like I can enjoy Yaoi, but to my knowledge there isn't that much explicit Yuri anime out there- I prefer Shoujo ai anyway though since i'm all about the fluff ^^ In fact, I give kudos to a lot of Yuri anime and manga because there seems to be less black and white roles within character relationships- unlike a lot of Yaoi where there's almost always a defined Uke (bottom) and Seme (top). Despite being about male x male romance, a lot of Yaoi still seem to work by the framework of heterosexual, shoujo-esque relationships- that there //has// to be a "female" role played by one guy, even if both characters are male. Sure, the same happens in Yuri, where one girl is more masculine, but it just seems less frequent than in Yaoi. I like myself an equilibrium!! |
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| Title says explicit.....where the fuck is the explicit stuff?!? Also, yuri is mostly aimed at males, just like yaoi is mostly aimed for females....so...not sure why we should care what females think about yuri. |
HaXXspetten said: Na11 said: I kind of feel like this is the most common male standpointhate yaoi, support gay men. Love yuri and support lesbians. One of the dumbest standpoints I read so far indeed. Hypocrisy and double-standard at it's best. |
lady_freyja said: MeganekkoAmy said: In manga I still suffer with the creepy faces, the extra moe girls and the whole scenes being targeted at guys. :'3 Again, the anime give the wrong impression of the genre as a whole. Most yuri mangaka are women, and an important part of the yuri manga are shōjo/josei actually (there is still a good amount of seinen yuri manga… the anime come from somewhere after all. へへ). The yuri genre was born in the shōjo demographic after all. Here my usual recommendation of josei yuri: http://myanimelist.net/manga/29027/Omoi_no_Kakera http://myanimelist.net/manga/70621/Philosophia http://myanimelist.net/manga/50909/Watashi_no_Sekai_wo_Kousei_suru_Chiri_no_You_na_Nani_ka http://myanimelist.net/manga/24441/Kimi_Koi_Limit http://myanimelist.net/manga/1557/Piet%C3%A0 And virtually, everything from Takemyia Jin and Amano Shuninta (the 3 first manga of the list), they have a very distinct art-style. Ebine Yamaji is also a popular josei yuri mangaka, I haven't read any of her work, I just saw the live-action adaptation of Love my Life, and it was pretty good. And you can add Aoi Hana which can fits the josei code, I guess. BTW I saw that you gave a 7 at the anime version of Love Stage, if you want to try the same duo of mangaka (and thus, same art-style, same humour, same story-telling, same eroticism…) but in the yuri version: http://myanimelist.net/manga/3774/Haru_Natsu_Aki_Fuyu http://myanimelist.net/manga/17335/Renai_Idenshi_XX You can also find the very forced tragedies of the old-school shōjo, like Maya's Funeral Procession (I like that one, but I admit it's very, very special), and the very abusive/soap-opera shōjo like Citrus. And even the male demographics aren't bad, for example Bloom into You, it's a shōnen yuri, and it was the big surprise of 2015, for its very sensible story. By far it's one of the best on-going yuri manga. No, seriously, you have choice with the manga. Oh, thanks! I'm gonna check those out. I just hadn't found any I liked before, but those recommendations seem pretty good. Thank you so much! |
| Whoa whoa, shoujo ai? Just looked it up. so this is like a lower-tier yuri kind of thing? Like hinting lesbians or sometimes female to female contact? With a grain of romance and not just lustful actions?! What rock have I lived under? this is fantastic! |
MajarraFeb 19, 2016 10:59 AM
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