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Dec 9, 2015 10:56 AM

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Loved the fight even though it was short... And this episode is just a small example for what you're gonna get this arc ;).

Also, so far the arc has covered 2 chapters per an episode. If it continues at this pacing, we'll get roughly 8 more episodes. 18 Chapters left from the manga for this arc.
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Dec 9, 2015 11:31 AM

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another reason why gintama is so epic...gintama > all anime combined
BRING IT!!!!
Dec 9, 2015 11:41 AM

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That was intense!

The moment that I thought Okita lost his hand *What the F will happen in the future gintama*

I think Zenzou will die :/

And here I thought that shogun is already dead o.o
Dec 9, 2015 12:00 PM

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Okita and Kamui were so cool! The next episode looks really good too.
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Dec 9, 2015 12:12 PM

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So awesome.
Dec 9, 2015 1:04 PM

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Amazing all the comedic fights with Kagura lead to this fight with Sogo and Kamui. Its very fitting.

My one complaint is that they seem to keep nerfing Kagura. Maybe that will change now that she'll be fighting other members of Yato clan.
Dec 9, 2015 1:43 PM
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long awaited fight between boyfriend and oni-chan
Dec 9, 2015 4:02 PM

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HOOOWWW AMMM I SUPPOUSED TO SLEEEEEP NOOOW !??! :(((

I missed the serious gintama arcs!!!! No doubt it's gonna be the best serious arc - only second episode of the arc and already AMAZING Sogo/Kamui fight!

Really couldn't they have done the all arc in one night ?! Waiting is torture to my hyped body right now !
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Dec 9, 2015 4:30 PM
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This arc, I love Sarutobi's shifted attitude when it comes to more serious matters, and the Oniwabanshuu being brought is brought to its place in the actual plot. We get better insight on her job as a ninja and her own thoughts about Zenzou's loyalties.

Great fight between Kamui and Sougo, their battle chemistry's great, and as short as it was, clever moves and force from two strong parties makes it enjoyable to watch, or so that's how I felt. Those OSTs though.

"Don't look down on Earth's policemen."
Found the dialogue rich and no different from Sorachi's usual writing during serious arcs, I'm no expert, but I can agree the whole "Mr.Criminal-Mr.Policeman" was melodramatic, but I felt that the voice actors played that one well. Oh well, either way, I liked it.

Kagura perking up at the mention of the umbrella-carrying mob. Hoping to compare her skill to other Yato clansmen; her capabilities are almost always downplayed in other arcs, not to put her on a pedestal.

It's pretty clever that the real Shogun was hiding amongst the Iga ninjas, too. Welcome back, Sho-chan!
Dec 9, 2015 5:23 PM

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Sougo vs Kamui fight was HYPE. They are so similar, seeing a fight between them was inevitable.

Easy 5/5
Dec 9, 2015 5:45 PM

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most intense fight in 2015
Dec 9, 2015 6:07 PM

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SHOGUN KA YOOOO!!
That one felt good :)

So, was Shige Shige raised as a ninja? But which shogun would let his son go through such a hardcore training? I guess we'll find out eventually.

I never thought Okita could give Kamui a hard time. We already knew that Okita was on a superhuman level, but Kamui strenght is just so over the top... It was one badass fight. That make me even more hyped for the Gintoki/Takasugi fight we see in the ED.

I really want to see Katsura make an appearance. As a Joi, he will be related to a putch, even if he's not the instigator.
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Dec 9, 2015 6:09 PM

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Arc is pretty hype Sougo vs Kamui was so good despite getting cut short i always forget how strong some of the characters are till these arcs,was about to lose my mind if he actually lost his arm so quick any hopes for Kagura reunion?.


And this already ranking up on the blood/deathcount reminds me of that one part in the Shinsengumi Crisis Arc !.


so is this gonna continue into the new year?
Dec 9, 2015 6:13 PM

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katsu044 said:
Arc is pretty hype Sougo vs Kamui was so good despite getting cut short i always forget how strong some of the characters are till these arcs,was about to lose my mind if he actually lost his arm so quick any hopes for Kagura reunion?.


And this already ranking up on the blood/deathcount reminds me of that one part in the Shinsengumi Crisis Arc !.


so is this gonna continue into the new year?



This arc should continue for about 9ish more episodes give or take a couple so yeah it'll continue into the new year
Dec 9, 2015 6:38 PM

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Fucking epic , The Fight Sougo VS Kamui was too short in my opinion because it was so great i obviously wanted it to last longer . Those 2 definitely are an Epic Match-Up ! I'm still thinking they should've made a new epic opening because this arc is really serious and the opening is quite anticlimactic so it really feels off , it doesn't put me in the perfect mood to watch epic shit , Honestly i'm more hyped by the Ending than the Opening . This Ending + The Previews = Torture
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Dec 9, 2015 7:18 PM
SHSL Good Luck

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Wow, this episode has a really high 5/5 vote ratio! I can't imagine what the numbers will be for the biggest fight of the arc O.O!
Dec 9, 2015 7:30 PM

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FUCKING EPIC!!! what a twist and that glorious animation
Dec 9, 2015 7:50 PM

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WOW! Okita vs Kamui is just top notch. Just epic.
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Dec 9, 2015 9:18 PM

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Sougo tried stabbing Kamui with a kunai that went through his hand. That's about as badass as you can get.

Is it just me or I thought Momochi Rappa's chain was through her mouth? It looked cuter with it coming out of her mouth :V
Dec 9, 2015 9:28 PM

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wrongbox said:
Is it just me or I thought Momochi Rappa's chain was through her mouth? It looked cuter with it coming out of her mouth :V
I think it did.
Dec 9, 2015 9:30 PM
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The shogun pulled a ''SURPRISE MODAFUCKA'' at the ending.
SHOOOGUN KA YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Dec 9, 2015 9:37 PM

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Okita vs Kamui, the battle was awesome :D

Its Shogun Kayooo!!!

Shogun still alive! :D

Dec 9, 2015 9:44 PM

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SHOGUN KAYOOOOOOO 0_________0
Dec 9, 2015 9:53 PM
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God daaaaamn that was good
Dec 9, 2015 11:26 PM

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If only Okita knew that Kamui is HER big brother...

Epic episode indeed...
Dec 9, 2015 11:41 PM

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Pretty epic episode.
Dec 10, 2015 12:58 AM

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I cant believe "It's was the shogun!?" punchline was used in that context lol

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Dec 10, 2015 1:12 AM

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If only Okita knew that Kamui is HER big brother...
Pretty sure he figured it out, what with that quote and his reaction and all.
Dec 10, 2015 1:34 AM

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Shogun kayoooo????

Awesome episode, I was actually worried about Okita there for a second. Quite amazing that he managed to fight on par with Kamui.
Dec 10, 2015 2:12 AM

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Candor said:
What a fucking awful episode. Nice fucking "HAHA YOU DEFEATED/HURT/DEAD" "HAHA NO I'M NOT" bullshit writing right there. I would've liked it if it happened once or twice, or hell, 3 times, but not every single fucking minute.

"HAHA WE BETRAYED YOU" a minute later "HAHA WE ACTUALLY KIDDING WE BETRAYED THE OTHER GUYS. HAHA" ... Like seriously Sorach could've fucking used something that's called foreshadowing not fucking retcon everything that happens in this episode.

I hoped this arc will be different from all the awful action arcs in this series but guess I was expecting too much. The writing in this episode is seriously worse than most of the action arcs in this series. Like seriously, holy fuck this episode.
this, gintama writing dude is only good at writing comedy and should stick with comedy imo.
Dec 10, 2015 2:20 AM
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Qatami said:
Candor said:
What a fucking awful episode. Nice fucking "HAHA YOU DEFEATED/HURT/DEAD" "HAHA NO I'M NOT" bullshit writing right there. I would've liked it if it happened once or twice, or hell, 3 times, but not every single fucking minute.

"HAHA WE BETRAYED YOU" a minute later "HAHA WE ACTUALLY KIDDING WE BETRAYED THE OTHER GUYS. HAHA" ... Like seriously Sorach could've fucking used something that's called foreshadowing not fucking retcon everything that happens in this episode.

I hoped this arc will be different from all the awful action arcs in this series but guess I was expecting too much. The writing in this episode is seriously worse than most of the action arcs in this series. Like seriously, holy fuck this episode.
this, gintama writing dude is only good at writing comedy and should stick with comedy imo.


Simply put, you two are idiots.
Dec 10, 2015 3:54 AM

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Kamui, good luck with your injured right hand... Yeah good luck xD

I can't handle the feels at next or two episode after this :(

SHOGUN KAYOOOOOOO
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Dec 10, 2015 4:24 AM

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That was intense, I read the manga but I didn't remember much of the fight and honestly fight is easier to understand in anime form.
Dec 10, 2015 5:02 AM
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Qatami said:
Candor said:
What a fucking awful episode. Nice fucking "HAHA YOU DEFEATED/HURT/DEAD" "HAHA NO I'M NOT" bullshit writing right there. I would've liked it if it happened once or twice, or hell, 3 times, but not every single fucking minute.

"HAHA WE BETRAYED YOU" a minute later "HAHA WE ACTUALLY KIDDING WE BETRAYED THE OTHER GUYS. HAHA" ... Like seriously Sorach could've fucking used something that's called foreshadowing not fucking retcon everything that happens in this episode.

I hoped this arc will be different from all the awful action arcs in this series but guess I was expecting too much. The writing in this episode is seriously worse than most of the action arcs in this series. Like seriously, holy fuck this episode.
this, gintama writing dude is only good at writing comedy and should stick with comedy imo.
You guys are judging the writing of an arc when you're only two episodes in (out of 10-11). I know the reveal was sudden for anime-viewers because for the manga, we found out three chapters later that the Shogun is alive. But the anime adapted those three chapters in one episode.
Dec 10, 2015 6:06 AM

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FANTASTIC EPISODE! Knew they'd adapt the Manga perfectly! Okita's fight was just amazing. Can't wait for Gintoki's!
Dec 10, 2015 9:30 AM

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10/10.

Sadly by the preview it seems to be my favourite Gintama's character farewell...

Can't hold these feels :c
Dec 10, 2015 10:48 AM
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I have been waiting for a week for sougo x kamui fight ! EPICCCC !!

but they left out this part, sad.

lol @ kagura's "toshiiii" XD


Yeah, as a manga reader I was so hyped for the arc..maybe a bit hyper-critical. Like, if you didn't have the budget to do this properly, why didn't you just stick to the comedy arcs? They skipped some of my favorites ! But then, they actually leave out some tidbits. The short fight scene was really awesome tho.

Well, they're probably doing the best they can, trying to animate this arc before the anime ends due to business pressures. I'm trying not to get too high expectations. I loved this episode, btw, though I was a bit annoyed about Kamui being shorter than Takasugi (previous). Either that or Takasugi was wearing serious platform shoes.
Dec 10, 2015 3:54 PM

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wow what-a-battle-okita impressive these 2 are killers okita was so perfect
love it .these battles are the best I REMEMBER A BATTLE WITH HIJIkata so good too
:O waiting for more!!!
Dec 10, 2015 4:00 PM

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Dammmnnnn this episode was amazing. Okita vs Kamui was great...and I can't believe Okita came out of it with the upper hand! What a bamf.

I agree the reveal with the ninjas betraying each other (?) was kinda abrupt, but I didn't see the shogun being alive coming... I really thought he was dead.
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Dec 10, 2015 5:19 PM

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Guurako said:

"Don't look down on Earth's policemen."
Found the dialogue rich and no different from Sorachi's usual writing during serious arcs, I'm no expert, but I can agree the whole "Mr.Criminal-Mr.Policeman" was melodramatic, but I felt that the voice actors played that one well. Oh well, either way, I liked it.


Now that i'm thinking about it, I think this is only an important quote because it's coming from Okita. He has always been known as the perfect example of a corrupt cop, and I find it interesting that he of all of the members of the Shinsengumi is the one to say this line.

ex of how Okita is a bad cop:

1. His introduction is of him sleeping on the job
2. He sleeps when they are in charge of guarding the frog Amanto
3. Stops people randomnly in the middle of the night to confiscate pornography for himself
4. While on a stakeout, he orders ramen and the culprit slips away (gin-hiji handcuff episode xD)
5. Chooses the use the bazooka even though he is the best swordsman of the Shinsengumi. The bazooka's explosiveness causes casualties and is costly for the city to repair.
5a. fires it at a traffic intersection while pursuing Katsura (I think)
5b. fires it at a restaurant, which forced the Shinsengumi to change their image with Otsu-chan

and the list can go on and on...

However, as the series goes on, the bazooka appears less and there are times when he does do his job (Rokkaku and that people fighting arena).

And many people of the series has commented on Okita's eyes. The first time I remember is when Hijikata stops Okita from attacking the frog Amanto and says "you're eyes are dilated". Nobume states that Okita isn't a cop but a killer during their first meeting. Kamui also says Okita is a bloodthirsty warrior who is drawn to the smell of battle and that he doesn't care about the protecting anyone.

So I find it interesting that during a hell of a villain vs hell of a cop showdown, it is not Hijikata, not Kondo, but Okita to be the one to deliver this line and to represent the police force of this series. Maybe it's character development lol as even though Kamui said he doesn't care about protecting people, Okita is willing to give up his life to protect Soyo-hime.
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Dec 10, 2015 7:12 PM

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Great episode :D

It's obvious Shogun wouldn't die like that so easily.

Okita vs Kamui is amazing, finally Takasugi is making more appearance than ever. I hope to see Gintoki vs Takasugi soon.

Can't wait for the next episode!!
Dec 11, 2015 5:00 AM
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THIS EPISODE WAS WAY TOO FUCKING GOOD THEY GOTTA CHILL

Oh god my heart is still racing someoone call an ambulance :OOO I loved this episode so fucking much, Sougo and Kamui, my two favorite characters beating the shit out of each other was just pure epicness and all the while I was thinking "hey sougo some day you'll have to make up with your future brother-in-law" <3
Dec 11, 2015 3:19 PM

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Candor said:
What a fucking awful episode. Nice fucking "HAHA YOU DEFEATED/HURT/DEAD" "HAHA NO I'M NOT" bullshit writing right there. I would've liked it if it happened once or twice, or hell, 3 times, but not every single fucking minute.

"HAHA WE BETRAYED YOU" a minute later "HAHA WE ACTUALLY KIDDING WE BETRAYED THE OTHER GUYS. HAHA" ... Like seriously Sorach could've fucking used something that's called foreshadowing not fucking retcon everything that happens in this episode.

I hoped this arc will be different from all the awful action arcs in this series but guess I was expecting too much. The writing in this episode is seriously worse than most of the action arcs in this series. Like seriously, holy fuck this episode.


I have to agree this arc is lacking foreshadowing for its twists, just too many asspulls, things are coming outta nowhere.
Dec 11, 2015 6:45 PM

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I must say that Okita vs Kamui fight was the best, most entertaining possible matchup of all characters involved in Gintama. While Gintoki and Katsura may belong to a league of their own in swordsmanship, their fights always end up having an unnecessary mix of comedy or too much dialogue. Okita vs Kamui on the other hand was straight up a death match.
Dec 11, 2015 11:31 PM

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HOW TO SAVE ANIME IN THREE SIMPLE STEPS

  1. To have Mars of Destruction, Skelter Heaven, and Pupa properly adapted in TV series form by Madhouse
  2. To have Inferno Cop properly adapted in TV series form by Bones, director: Urobuchi Gen
  3. An anime crossover of Mushishi x ARIA x Haibane Renmei.


Should even one of the above conditions cannot be done, anime is still at risk.
Dec 12, 2015 5:15 AM

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wrongbox said:
Guurako said:

"Don't look down on Earth's policemen."
Found the dialogue rich and no different from Sorachi's usual writing during serious arcs, I'm no expert, but I can agree the whole "Mr.Criminal-Mr.Policeman" was melodramatic, but I felt that the voice actors played that one well. Oh well, either way, I liked it.


Now that i'm thinking about it, I think this is only an important quote because it's coming from Okita. He has always been known as the perfect example of a corrupt cop, and I find it interesting that he of all of the members of the Shinsengumi is the one to say this line.

ex of how Okita is a bad cop:

1. His introduction is of him sleeping on the job
2. He sleeps when they are in charge of guarding the frog Amanto
3. Stops people randomnly in the middle of the night to confiscate pornography for himself
4. While on a stakeout, he orders ramen and the culprit slips away (gin-hiji handcuff episode xD)
5. Chooses the use the bazooka even though he is the best swordsman of the Shinsengumi. The bazooka's explosiveness causes casualties and is costly for the city to repair.
5a. fires it at a traffic intersection while pursuing Katsura (I think)
5b. fires it at a restaurant, which forced the Shinsengumi to change their image with Otsu-chan

and the list can go on and on...

However, as the series goes on, the bazooka appears less and there are times when he does do his job (Rokkaku and that people fighting arena).

And many people of the series has commented on Okita's eyes. The first time I remember is when Hijikata stops Okita from attacking the frog Amanto and says "you're eyes are dilated". Nobume states that Okita isn't a cop but a killer during their first meeting. Kamui also says Okita is a bloodthirsty warrior who is drawn to the smell of battle and that he doesn't care about the protecting anyone.

So I find it interesting that during a hell of a villain vs hell of a cop showdown, it is not Hijikata, not Kondo, but Okita to be the one to deliver this line and to represent the police force of this series. Maybe it's character development lol as even though Kamui said he doesn't care about protecting people, Okita is willing to give up his life to protect Soyo-hime.


I totally agree with you. The impact of this phrase is exactly because it was Sougo who said it. And how during the serie many of the others characters see him as an assassin who is a thirsty for blood, but in real he can be a very protective samurai for what is important for him. I think this will show better in the next arc
Dec 12, 2015 5:16 AM

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OKITAAAAAAAAA! ♥
Dec 12, 2015 8:03 AM
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Everybody keeps saying Sougo was awesome and badass (i agree), but....Kamui was also awesome and badass!! ><
I missed seeing Kamui so much and his appearance right before the OkiMui fight was just boss.
Dec 12, 2015 8:12 AM

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Candor said:
What a fucking awful episode. Nice fucking "HAHA YOU DEFEATED/HURT/DEAD" "HAHA NO I'M NOT" bullshit writing right there. I would've liked it if it happened once or twice, or hell, 3 times, but not every single fucking minute.

"HAHA WE BETRAYED YOU" a minute later "HAHA WE ACTUALLY KIDDING WE BETRAYED THE OTHER GUYS. HAHA" ... Like seriously Sorach could've fucking used something that's called foreshadowing not fucking retcon everything that happens in this episode.

I hoped this arc will be different from all the awful action arcs in this series but guess I was expecting too much. The writing in this episode is seriously worse than most of the action arcs in this series. Like seriously, holy fuck this episode.

Eh, that's a reasonable complaint and one I hope gets clarified through the arc, but it is kind of unfair. The arc has just started and the characters are still defining their role in it. What the series is doing is basically taking advantage of this uncertainty and playing with its cards. At this point of the arc it has the freedom and justification to do so, if it keeps accumulating plot twists once the factions are fully established I would consider this a flaw. Not at the current moment.
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"TOSHIIII" - Kagura
Lol that was hilarious. Also Kamui vs Okita fight was pretty cool!
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