| It looks pretty shounen to me so far. |
| the manga is serialized in a seinen magazine. |
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| There are general consensus of (stereotypes/cliche of) shounen manga and shoujo manga, but seinen does not have them. Seinen purely indicates the magazine it's in. Using seinen for "mature" is quite wrong, If someone's using the word that way. |
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| Well it has a lot of "mature" content, i.e it isn't suitable for younger teens that would buy shounen mags (and the the adults who want stuff aimed at that demographic) |
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| Well, what I am saying is seinen cannot exist as a generalizing term, unlike shounen. That's all. |
| 日本人はイッちゃってるよ あいつら未来に生きてんな |
| Seinen target audience is older while Shounen target audience is younger. All they are is the magazine the manga is serialized in, nothing more. |
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silverwalls said: the manga is serialized in a seinen magazine. |
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| How does this feel like a shounen? Drugs, prostitution and hired killers, criminals, etc. It's like something pulled straight from live action gritty crime shows |
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| Sexual content and lots of blood. |
silverwalls said: the manga is serialized in a seinen magazine. tsudecimo said: How does this feel like a shounen? Drugs, prostitution and hired killers, criminals, etc. It's like something pulled straight from live action gritty crime shows |
| It's not set in a highschool. |
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silverwalls said: the manga is serialized in a seinen magazine. Pretty much, which gives the manga, and as a result, the anime, license to be more daring with their content. tsudecimo said: How does this feel like a shounen? Drugs, prostitution and hired killers, criminals, etc. It's like something pulled straight from live action gritty crime shows This right here. It'd be one thing if Gangsta was try-hard, but it honestly rarely is. It's just like "yeah, this shit happens all the time. whatevs." |
Avaritia- said: Seinen target audience is older while Shounen target audience is younger. All they are is the magazine the manga is serialized in, nothing more. Actually speaking of age it's not always the case. Many shonen readers are 16-18 year old teens and the genre has many adult readers as well. Even though these magazines at first were aimed at tween and early teen audience, some series matured with their readers and that allowed to add more mature themes to the shonen genre and that's why we now have shounens who appeal to a wide audience(Death Note/Hxh/FMA) unlike something like Yugi-Oh that is clearly targeted at tweens. Seinen is mainly aimed at 16-24 olds, while there are some seinens for 40 year olds. Did you know that some shit with Cute Girls Doing Cute Stuff are actually Seinens'? So after finishing my research I cocluded that it's useless to debate at what target audience any anime is indended. Shut the fuck up and enjoy the show. Those who want to say that this shit is for kids just want to show off and they are fucking wrong. |
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| it's all cool-ish with gangstas and bitches and shizzle |
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DawnJ said: Unlike shounen? There's quite a bit of variety within the shounen demographic.Well, what I am saying is seinen cannot exist as a generalizing term, unlike shounen. That's all. |
| What shounen anime have you seen with doggystyle fucking in the very first episode? |
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| This is hardly a Shounen. lmao |
| Lol. people still think demographic labels mean anything beyond what age group the magazine of the manga is aimed at. Demographic =/= genre. Do some research. Jesus. |
| episode 1 you see a woman getting banged in an alley that's automatically seinen lol |
| it totally baffles me to see someone thinks this show is a shounen.... |
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IheartC2 said: it totally baffles me to see someone thinks this show is a shounen.... |
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| Being classified as a seinen (target at adults) means absolutely nothing in the anime industry now |
| Demographically, yes, Gangsta is seinen. On a thematic level however, it is shonen. Gangsta is basically Durarara!!---only with sex, drugs and nudity. A demographically and thematically seinen show (which is probably what the OP is trying to point out) will stand as a seinen show even after you take away sex, drugs and nudity (see Texhnolyze, Ergo Proxy, and Shinsekai Yori to name a few). |
FGAU1912 said: its a very low range seinen |
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arcunhacked said: Demographically, yes, Gangsta is seinen. On a thematic level however, it is shonen. Gangsta is basically Durarara!!---only with sex, drugs and nudity. A demographically and thematically seinen show (which is probably what the OP is trying to point out) will stand as a seinen show even after you take away sex, drugs and nudity (see Texhnolyze, Ergo Proxy, and Shinsekai Yori to name a few). neither of your examples are seinen though |
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silverwalls said: arcunhacked said: Demographically, yes, Gangsta is seinen. On a thematic level however, it is shonen. Gangsta is basically Durarara!!---only with sex, drugs and nudity. A demographically and thematically seinen show (which is probably what the OP is trying to point out) will stand as a seinen show even after you take away sex, drugs and nudity (see Texhnolyze, Ergo Proxy, and Shinsekai Yori to name a few). neither of your examples are seinen though I'll assume you haven't watched any of those yet. But regardless, you can't expect 20 genre tags in description. The R+ rating should be enough proof that they are seinen (demograhically). On a thematic level though, you'll have to watch them to see. |
| Gangsta is a seinen. The manga is a seinen. Non Non Biyori is a seinen. OP is a seinen. The shounen tag is actually a seinen. Everything is a seinen and the world is happy. |
arcunhacked said: silverwalls said: neither of your examples are seinen though I'll assume you haven't watched any of those yet. But regardless, you can't expect 20 genre tags in description. The R+ rating should be enough proof that they are seinen (demograhically). On a thematic level though, you'll have to watch them to see. Death Note and Deadman Wonderland has R17+ they are both shounens, your opinion is now shattered to pieces. |
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arcunhacked said: silverwalls said: neither of your examples are seinen though I'll assume you haven't watched any of those yet. But regardless, you can't expect 20 genre tags in description. The R+ rating should be enough proof that they are seinen (demograhically). On a thematic level though, you'll have to watch them to see. a series is seinen if it's adapted from a seinen manga. that's it. it has nothing to do with content or maturity or whatever. not to mention that i have actually seen 2 of them, but it's not like that matters here. |
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arcunhacked said: The ratings were decided by the mods, the demographic is decided by which magazine it was published in. There are many seinen that would be rated G and shounen that would be rated R. The other person was correct, I don't know about Texhbolyze but Ergo Proxy is an anime original so it doesn't really have an official demographic and Shinsekai Yori was based off a novel which don't have official demographic really.silverwalls said: neither of your examples are seinen though I'll assume you haven't watched any of those yet. But regardless, you can't expect 20 genre tags in description. The R+ rating should be enough proof that they are seinen (demograhically). On a thematic level though, you'll have to watch them to see. |
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arcunhacked said: silverwalls said: neither of your examples are seinen though I'll assume you haven't watched any of those yet. But regardless, you can't expect 20 genre tags in description. The R+ rating should be enough proof that they are seinen (demograhically). On a thematic level though, you'll have to watch them to see. Having a seinen tag doesn't automatically make it for the "mature and tasteful" audience nor does the term shounen added to any anime makes it something to be frowned upon.This one is published in a seinen magazine thats it.Nothing more, nothing less by MAL standards. |
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silverwalls said: the manga is serialized in a seinen magazine. pretty much this. i mean, even stuff like non non biyori is a seinen. deal with it. |
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ArdenFolgore said: arcunhacked said: I'll assume you haven't watched any of those yet. But regardless, you can't expect 20 genre tags in description. The R+ rating should be enough proof that they are seinen (demograhically). On a thematic level though, you'll have to watch them to see. Death Note and Deadman Wonderland has R17+ they are both shounens, your opinion is now shattered to pieces. Which loops back to my premise: you can classify a seinen according to demography and/or theme. Lexically, any R+17 or greater should be considered seinen since that is the target age group of the demography. Shonen, on the other hand, is legally defined as an age group of 15 years or below. However, the demographic and thematic essence of the "seinen" tag is subject to ambiguity for there is no way to tell when one is referring to which definition. Hence it is easy to tell a demographically seinen show but it requires you to watch them to prove if they are thematically seinen as well. The same premise also answers the case of Death Note and Deadman Wonderland---the "shonen" tag is used to represent their theme, not their demography. Or to better clarify: those R+17 shows are demographically seinen but thematically shonen. |
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| Durarara is plenty tame when compared with this one. You had bone breaking trauma in Durarara. They ain't gonna get far enough in this anime, but for Gangsta, you're suppose to get girls getting fingers, hands, whole arms sliced off just for fun, said body parts being shipped to their loved ones as a statement, people blowing shotgun pellets into their comrades' backs, people getting their chests cleaved open and their intestines falling out, people being blown to pieces, mind-break rape of certain character's long lost siblings, and of course kidnappings, murders, double-crossing, brainwashing, constant drug over-dosage... and did I mention the rape? And to think that all that is only what the supporting cast and other innocent bystanders get to go through. Haven't even talked about the main characters yet... We are talking about shady mafia business dealings, so I guess it's not all that surprising. But lets just say they won't censor most of those things I said, or hide them under mounds of context as they would in a Shounen. From all I've read for Durarara even in the LNs, I don't recall it ever getting THAT dark... |
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| It's officially a shounenshit by episode 5. Really disappointing. |
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| I cant see this being publish in a shonen magazine. |
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Signore said: It's officially a shounenshit by episode 5. Really disappointing. As you can see shounen means "I don't like it". |
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bastek66 said: Signore said: It's officially a shounenshit by episode 5. Really disappointing. As you can see shounen means "I don't like it". So what? Gangsta can't even touch Pupa or Shounen Hollywood as shounen. |
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Signore said: It's officially a shounenshit by episode 5. Really disappointing. Elitist calling this anime shounenshit while watching One Piece. Color me impressed. |
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ArdenFolgore said: Signore said: It's officially a shounenshit by episode 5. Really disappointing. Elitist calling this anime shounenshit while watching One Piece. Color me impressed. Wow, Sword Art Online is on your list! so you're a SAO Fanboy, huh?............................. |
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Signore said: ArdenFolgore said: Elitist calling this anime shounenshit while watching One Piece. Color me impressed. Wow, Sword Art Online is on your list! so you're a SAO Fanboy, huh?............................. Stop whining. Your entire list is private and I rated it 1/10. Watched it because some of my countrymen couldn't shut up about it. |
CharlesMarlowAug 5, 2015 11:46 AM
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ArdenFolgore said: Signore said: Wow, Sword Art Online is on your list! so you're a SAO Fanboy, huh?............................. Stop whining. Your entire list is private and I rated it 1/10. Watched it because some of my countrymen couldn't shut up about it. And you were the one implying something about One Piece because I'm watching it. Next time stay on topic and keep your emotions down, no need to be butthurt. |
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