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TonyTonyStark said: kcaco said: yes it does contradict it Ging himself was speculating. I'm not saying the soul thing makes no sense, but so does the brain thing. As for the k**** his speech applies to both cases IMO. You actually equate a key character speculating inside the story vs a readers' speculating? When a key character 'guess' or 'speculate', especially in this case, the writing function as author's mouth piece to drop the hint without spelling it full out. Happens a lot on how Togashi used Killua, etc. And from writing point of view, it's utterly pointless, unnecessary and irrelevent to include that Ging bits at all if the 'brain thing' supposedly explain away. But if you would rather have your own theory over Ging, that's your choice and for me the brain thing is weak and as uninteresting, un-Togashi as you get. |
kcacoJul 1, 2014 1:42 PM
kcaco said: TonyTonyStark said: Said speculation doesn't necessarily contradict with it...it was a major point in the arc. yes it does contradict it Actually there are other hints against it. |
| Das Feenreich! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vUvxzKt5GoM |
| togashi made sure to give an explanation for kite later on so theres no point in people worrying about it for now. |
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| I just realized I misunderstood that part with colt in the manga. I thought Colt took the baby because it was out of respect for the queen. But it seems like he thought Kaito was his sister Reina. |
kcaco said: TonyTonyStark said: Ging himself was speculating. I'm not saying the soul thing makes no sense, but so does the brain thing. As for the k**** his speech applies to both cases IMO. You actually equate a key character speculating inside the story vs a readers' speculating? When a key character 'guess' or 'speculate', especially in this case, the writing function as author's mouth piece to drop the hint without spelling it full out. Happens a lot when it's Killua, etc. And from writing point of view, it's utterly pointless, unnecessary and irrelevent to include that Ging bits at all if the 'brain thing' supposedly explain away. But if you would rather have your own theory over Ging, that's your choice and for me the brain thing is weak and as uninteresting, un-Togashi as you get. Of course. One of the things HxH addresses, which I like a lot, is that their speculations can be wrong. How many speculations went wrong? A lot. We, as viewers, know more. Most of the time. In HxH, the word of the character is NOT necessarily the word of the author. That of course doesn't dismiss what you said, and it still might be as you proposed. Just saying both are definitely possible. And like. I said, ging isn't omniscient, so he can still speculate how it happened with no certainty, he's certainly not gonna think "no, this is absurd! The manga already has explained it!" ;) Viltsu300 said: GreenSoap said: Isn't he 12 years old now? I think he's 13 in the Dark Expedition arc. No. Hunter exam is yearly event and Killua took it again at Greed Island. So they were 13 at Greed Island. Now they are 14. This! |
| About how many episodes can we expect from the Election arc? I never read the manga don't is there more arcs after that? How much more story there is on HxH that can turn into an anime? I am just wondering since i like this anime a lot. |
| I wasn't too crazy about the Kite reveal in the manga and I'm not sure if I am here, but I'll save all of that for later down the line. I always thought the Reina thing, though minor, was pretty cool because Togashi didn't forget this small sequence that I'm sure most watchers would have forgotten by now. The did a pretty good job with Killua's scene, as well. Well, I guess I'll say goodbye Meruem and Komugi and hello Ging and those other couple of characters I can't name quite yet. |
Ston3_FreeN7Jul 1, 2014 1:57 PM
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
namedrisk said: About how many episodes can we expect from the Election arc? I never read the manga don't is there more arcs after that? How much more story there is on HxH that can turn into an anime? I am just wondering since i like this anime a lot. 8-10 |
| What's with Killua's scary eyes ? :D |
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Viltsu300 said: namedrisk said: About how many episodes can we expect from the Election arc? I never read the manga don't is there more arcs after that? How much more story there is on HxH that can turn into an anime? I am just wondering since i like this anime a lot. 10 episodes. Togashi went for 2 years break when this arc ended, but he returned one month ago and now has started an new arc that is going to be at least 10 times better than chimera ant arc. Only about 10 episodes worth for the next arc? Is it possible that HxH will go on break after this new arc for a while since Author just came back? Even though it's a weekly release, don't see them adapting as we go. |
| Solid episode. Can't wait to see more of Ging |
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TonyTonyStark said: kcaco said: You actually equate a key character speculating inside the story vs a readers' speculating? When a key character 'guess' or 'speculate', especially in this case, the writing function as author's mouth piece to drop the hint without spelling it full out. Happens a lot when it's Killua, etc. And from writing point of view, it's utterly pointless, unnecessary and irrelevent to include that Ging bits at all if the 'brain thing' supposedly explain away. But if you would rather have your own theory over Ging, that's your choice and for me the brain thing is weak and as uninteresting, un-Togashi as you get. Of course. One of the things HxH addresses, which I like a lot, is that their speculations can be wrong. How many speculations went wrong? A lot. We, as viewers, know more. Most of the time. Not in this case. Kite's reincarnation was not presented as some mystery with a later revelations and purposeful misdirection. You're really stretching this into something like "Chrollo's wrong speculation on Hisoka's poem" to justify your claim. It's presented as a one-time takeaway: "in case you're wondering, Ging, who is THE authority on Kite's Nen, offers his view". Thus, this is more likely the case of author communicate some crucial via a character. TonyTonyStark said: In HxH, the word of the character is NOT necessarily the word of the author. That of course doesn't dismiss what you said, and it still might be as you proposed. Just saying both are definitely possible. Bisky and Killua, on many occasions, had been the author's mouth piece for 'speculation' passing as information, exposition, explanation, like Ging in this case. Misdirection, meaningless 'speculation' are pointless for something one-time takeaway like this. Like I said, your "brain thing" was the *obvious* initial knee jerk explanation everyone can and did come up, some held onto it like you, some brush it off and found it weak and would like to wait for the author's own explanation. And it was indeed later overturn as Togashi explained it in a cool and non forceful way in the later chapter thru a character with authoritative voice. |
| Him being the "authority of his nen" warrants the speculation of his, not its factuality. And Ging doesnt know how kites reincarnation was supposed to be presented as. And no, Hisoka's poem is t the only case. |
| This is slowly starting to become my favorite anime lol |
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| Personally, I think it's several episodes too soon to be arguing the Kite thing. I can't imagine many of the anime only people appreciate it, spoiler tags or not. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG. When I saw Ging's face, I freaking started laughing and screaming and jumping around... I still can't fucking calm down aaaaahhh. Deep breaths, deep breaths. Eeeeeeek!!! Okie. I'm calm. This was such a great episode to tie up the loose ends of a freaking amazing arc. Just downright amazing. There was so much hope threaded into every scene of this episode, and I loved that, considering the intense emotional moments of the last. I loved the scene with Reina coming home...with how dark this past arc has been, I almost expected her mother to scream "Monster!" like the rest of the villagers. But HxH knows exactly when to embed fear, and alternatively when to embed hope into the story. Brovada finally deciding to stay in the village was also a nice touch - showing how the ants have rightfully changed. I really hope Kurt can come home and see his mom too now! That first scene when those two little kids died ripped my heart out, and HxH is gently sowing me back together, hehe. :) I'm so confused at who that little girl with Kurt is though? I feel like I should know her, but I honestly have no clue. And why did he call her Reina? And why did she say she was Kaito instead? Ahhh...questions, questions. Hehe, it would be adorable if Kite was reincarnated (is that the right word?) into a little girl. :3 Awww, I just got a mental image of Gon spinning her around...too cute. And now...Gon's situation. Sigh. I haven't allowed myself to think of the implications of Gon's transformation so far, because then I would just be wallowing in sadness, not paying much attention to the end of the Chimera Ant arc. But, now, it's hit me like a boulder. A really big boulder, to be honest. Gaah, I want Gon to stay my beautiful, happy, innocent little boy. I'm so happy that everyone is determined to heal him though, and I'm glad. However, I have a feeling he will never be the same. I just need some time to mourn the loss of Gon's innocence. :( I was afraid Killua would go all emo...but he seems determined as well. I have a feeling he'll be relying on his family once more, as in the Greed Island arc. I hope he doesn't become a lonely assassin again though...it would just be so easy at this point in time. Gon basically deserted him in this arc, deserted all his friends to fight alone. I don't want Killua to be persuaded or discouraged to give up on friendship as well. That would break my heart. But this scene was just perfect:  Killua, my little sweetheart, is just so devoted to Gon, and their friendship brings me to tears. And the choice of music, of that one previous ending theme? Just fucking perfect. God, I can't wait for this next arc. Ging!!!! New Hunter head dude will be selected. Can anyone update me on the status of the manga? Will the anime go on hiatus? I feel like I've read that Togashi hasn't drawn much after the end of the Chimera Ant arc. Whatever though, even if the anime stops, I'll catch up on the manga. Too good to miss out on. 5/5 episode. I'm really considering giving the series a 10, but until it ends, it holds a solid 9 for me. Near perfect pacing and character interaction is just so damn good. |
| The girl is the baby ant twin of Meruem back in episode....91... I think :) |
| Ging! Got hyped when I saw him. This was a great episode overall. The ant arc is now pretty much wrapped up. Liked the bgm scene that played while Killua was thinking to himself. That scene really got to me. So Kite is reincarnated as Meruem's sister? Don't get how but I'm glad he's still alive. |
Ragna92Jul 1, 2014 3:31 PM
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| Btw, I've got to say I'm pleased with how Madhouse rearranged the events. In the manga the Zodiacs were shown right after Meruem and Komugi's death, which imo was not optimal placement. Placing it at the end of this episode was much better, imo. |
| "Yes, I have been deprived of emotion. But not completely. Whoever did it, botched the job." - Geralt of Rivia |
| AWEEEEEESOME EPISODEEE. |
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| The feels! That scene with Reina and her mother was really sweet <3 |
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| such a gooooooood eps hyped af for ging and hisoka. kinda sad theirs only 10 or 11 eps left |
| OMG Finally the end of the Chimera Ant Arc. Really needed a change of pace and my old HxH back. |
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kcaco said: Thanks, both of you!KitsuneKomugi said: I guess there's no harm in telling Your 'telling' was never mentioned nor confirm at all in the manga...so it's at best just a speculation. and I'm not buying it. The more popular and closest specu-explanation we have actually is: |
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| I guess Gyro's currently the LS/CH of Hunter x Hunter 2011. (LS/CH is to Game of Thrones.) insan3Spectre said: And GING! That was one awesome-as-hell way for MadHouse to have him enter the stage.Btw, I've got to say I'm pleased with how Madhouse rearranged the events. In the manga the Zodiacs were shown right after Meruem and Komugi's death, which imo was not optimal placement. Placing it at the end of this episode was much better, imo. |
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| ah when Killua sets on something his look always gives me the chills, amazing. I was afraid he would get more depressed rather than firm in his decision to help Gon. I love the feeling of hope you get at the end of such an intense arc, both in this ep and in the last one I felt something like "the best ending you could hope for has come" still, the last thing Iwas so curious about, I kind of want to know more about Gyro than what it's only hinted in the eps but I guess with the new arc start I'll sooon forget about it |
 No Blood! No Bone! No Ash! |
| Time to wait for that little trap and Hisoka x Illumi fanboys/fangirls. |
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| I'm so excited! The ant arc is finally over! I'm getting the hxh feels again, the opening ost at the beginning gave me the feels of how hxh was before the ant arc, hxh is back bitches! holy shit! It's Gon dad! shits about to go down. Celebration dance. Ep 10/10  |
| In the next arc, Killua will go full force gay for Gon. Can't wait for the Hoyay! |
| F0XFIRE said: OP 4 most butthurt bitch on MAL. |
peeyaj said: Omg I can't wait either! I love their Yaoi/shonen ai/hoyay moments :DIn the next arc, Killua will go full force gay for Gon. Can't wait for the Hoyay! |
| bite me |
| Ging = Yusuke Urameshi Little Female Kite huh...That will be interesting lol |
| Killua will save Gon. The Zodiacs assemble and Ging shows up. Time for the election. Nice way to overall end the Chimera Ant arc. Cannot wait for next week. Hisoka returns. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| How did a character from Clannad sneak in there? Oh wait, that's just Reina. So moe. My mind is completely blown on the whole Kite thing, wonder how that happened. My jaw dropped and I couldn't stop saying "no way" for like 30 seconds at the end when I saw Ging (or at least I think that's him). The last second of the preview made me freakin' scream though, hallelujah He is back! |
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| That ending shocked me. Ging :D I'm so excited! |
Albi-kunJul 1, 2014 5:26 PM
| Wtf is all this talk about Kite's reincarnation? I always thought it was just like how all the other Ants got human memories -- through the strong resolve of humans that were eaten by the Queen. |
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