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May 19, 2014 11:05 PM

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Bleach has a lot of swords man, i say Ichigo is the best simply because his the main character and will beat the final boss
May 19, 2014 11:10 PM

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j0x said:
Bleach has a lot of swords man, i say Ichigo is the best simply because his the main character and will beat the final boss


Knowing Kubo, Ichigo will probably pull some bullshit outta his ass. He probably won't be able to repeat a similar feat of strength ever again either.
May 19, 2014 11:15 PM

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Depends on how you mean the best. A couple characters from One Piece have been shown to cut in half some large things. Mihawk a huge ice berg and Law basically a mountain(though Law was helped by his fruit).
If we go by that (being able to cut large things) then Gin would be the best swordsman considering Gin when his zanpaktou is in bankai can cut multiple buildings in half. http://youtu.be/s_OCOiAIU2Y
Mountain > multiple buildings
May 19, 2014 11:22 PM

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What is Ecksu Kalee Buuuuuuuuh or Ea nb4Archerclass

pure power
May 19, 2014 11:28 PM

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Hollow Ichigo, Because he doesn't need an introduction, his sword does the talking. He doesn't have a name, but many people call him Hichigo or Hollow Ichigo. I call him White Shinigami, because it sounds badass.
May 19, 2014 11:37 PM

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Hawkeyes Mihawk from One Piece because he is thought of as the best swordsman and shows his skill early on in one piece where he faces of with Zoro.

I also think Yamamoto from Katekyo Hitman Reborn is up there because he learns from his mistakes and comes up with his own technique.
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May 19, 2014 11:46 PM

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DrGeroCreation said:
The Sakabato doesn't slow down his attacks it just prevents him from killing. You are right there is no way Soujiro could beat Hiko but I do believe Soujiro could of beaten Kenshin.


It slows down battojutsu, which makes up a lot of Kenshin's attacks.
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May 20, 2014 1:37 AM

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Saber pwns all
May 20, 2014 4:17 AM
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Kirito, the one and only true black swordsman.
May 20, 2014 4:29 AM

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Jetstream Sam because he battered Raiden in their first encounter and Raiden was the only one with cybernetic enhancements. Raiden only beat him the second time because he had a better body. He destroyed a Metal Gear Rey and he survived his fight with Armstrong.

For anime, Guts pawns all.
May 20, 2014 4:33 AM

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j0x said:
Bleach has a lot of swords man, i say Ichigo is the best simply because his the main character and will beat the final boss


Bleach characters should be irrelevant here because they rely on their powers to win fights and not their skill with a blade. I don't watch it anymore but I like Kenpachi because he uses raw power and skill.
May 20, 2014 4:36 AM
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Zarbel said:
j0x said:
Bleach has a lot of swords man, i say Ichigo is the best simply because his the main character and will beat the final boss


Bleach characters should be irrelevant here because they rely on their powers to win fights and not their skill with a blade. I don't watch it anymore but I like Kenpachi because he uses raw power and skill.


In most battle shounen series the characters rely on raw power over actual battle tactics. Bleach is the norm and not the exception.
May 20, 2014 4:43 AM
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Gutts without a doubt.
May 20, 2014 4:50 AM
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I like how ppl think Mihawk is the greatest swordsman when we know so little about him as a character.
Yoshii Kiria took over as leader of Fairytale and rebuilt it and became one of Tsukunes formidable enemies but let's save that story for another time

Hehe, let me introduce him to you again, kid. This is Shuzen Issa (who is MIA during the final battle), who will become your 'trainer' starting today. You still have much to go if you want to become the headmaster.

Like the two souls have started to become one.
May 20, 2014 4:58 AM

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Have you seen Fujitora in one piece lately?

He does a couple of swings with his sword and lets


That's a pretty powerful ability if ya ask me.
May 20, 2014 5:05 AM

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That argument about Ichigo is invalid.

Guts is superhuman too,he is the only one who can held a very massive sword...
He also have that left cannon in the place of left hand...

He have a fucking stamina...Is a monster, can be considered superhuman.
May 20, 2014 5:42 AM

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goldslash said:
That argument about Ichigo is invalid.

Guts is superhuman too,he is the only one who can held a very massive sword...
He also have that left cannon in the place of left hand...

He have a fucking stamina...Is a monster, can be considered superhuman.


Gut's cannon is not a superpower and I remember him last using it when that snake dude thrashed him. We don't know what the sword is made of plus, Guts is a tall man. It would be silly for a short man to use a long sword but Guts is bulky and tall. His armour allows him to withstand pain and it increases his strength but still the guys from bleach would beat him because of their powers.
May 20, 2014 6:17 AM

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Zarbel said:

Gut's cannon is not a superpower and I remember him last using it when that snake dude thrashed him. We don't know what the sword is made of plus, Guts is a tall man. It would be silly for a short man to use a long sword but Guts is bulky and tall. His armour allows him to withstand pain and it increases his strength but still the guys from bleach would beat him because of their powers.


Yep the cannon is not superpower, it's a just something he can use.

U don't need to have superpower to be a superhuman.
But he has superstrength and superstamina... It's like you saying that Zoro isn't superhuman??
Zoro has too much resistency, i think he it's better than Luffy in that area.

Both Zoro and Guts can be considered superhumans, so i think it's fair the comparions with Bleach.
And Zoro, Mihawk, can cut iron, can cut a boat...This is supernatural, then it's superhuman.

Btw, the power in Bleach depends on the swords(Zanpakutous), those attacks are in majority swords attacks, so i think it's allowed...

If we not allow Bleach, u cant allow One Piece either, then i'll go with Rurouni Kenshin...
May 20, 2014 7:13 AM

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lol most of the names mentioned here don't even know proper swordsmanship.
May 20, 2014 7:23 AM

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The one and only Black Swordsman, Guts.
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GENERALxRAIDEN said:
The one and only Black Swordsman, Guts.


No, kirito is the real Black Swordsman. Guts is just a poser pretending to be the real black swordsman.
May 20, 2014 8:06 AM

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Aeonic said:
GENERALxRAIDEN said:
The one and only Black Swordsman, Guts.


No, kirito is the real Black Swordsman. Guts is just a poser pretending to be the real black swordsman.


Isn't Afro Samurai blacker
May 20, 2014 9:25 AM

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May 20, 2014 9:35 AM

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ElPysCongroo said:
Your all wrong Shiki Ryougi beats all (yes I know she uses a dagger, but that's because with a sword it would be to easy), she can cut literally anything and kill immortals.

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Actually really surprised no one mentioned her yet


Shiki is the most overrated character ive seen in terms of powah levels, she claims that she can kill inmortals yet she needed several strikes to kill a weak guy like Araya an she never showed impressive powers in any of the movies, Kami Tenchi can cut through the universe that she an the entire Nasuverse live way before she is even aware of his existence or use her eyes
May 20, 2014 9:39 AM
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Ichigo kurosaki obviously, the guy dual wields a kitchen knife and a greatsword
haha nah
its Gintoki sakata since im a gintama fan
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May 20, 2014 9:40 AM

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goldslash said:
That argument about Ichigo is invalid.

Guts is superhuman too,he is the only one who can held a very massive sword...
He also have that left cannon in the place of left hand...

He have a fucking stamina...Is a monster, can be considered superhuman.

Guts is but a mere human, and there are limits to what a single human can do. Ichigo is a god of death.
May 20, 2014 10:16 AM

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GUTS
Strength/Skills:
He defeated 100 men but nearly died in that fight while Mihawk defeated more than 100 men in a war and didn't even get a scratch.
Personality/Character:
Still Guts is incredible as well He doesn't give up despite all of the despair around him, and that willpower is different from the "heart-of-the-cards" willpower that 99% of shounen characters are given. So Ichigo is out of the question
Overall: Mihawk better swordsman

KIRITO
Strength/Skills:
Disappointed in people who even mention him in this thread. During anime, he defeated many people with mere 'power' but his swords skills were sloppy as ever. Also, his 'power' level was reset in the last episode so he is no match.
Personality/Character:
N/A
(Whatever I will say will be against his personality so I don't want to offend you)
Overall: Mihawk better swordsman

TRUNKS
He quited swordsmanship so he should not be considered a swordsman. (Remember his fight with Cell)

ZORO
Strength/Skills:
He is still far from surpassing Mihawk. He can't even use conquering's Haki yet.
Overall: Mihawk better swordsman

CHARACTERS FROM Rurouni Kenshin
If there is someone who has watched both One Piece (at least till 500ep) and Rurouni Kenshin, please tell if there is anyone who can defeat Mihawk...

But I have seen Rurouni Kenshin OVA. Himura, Kenshin is definitely one of the best swordsman. He deserves so many points for his outstanding character but I am afraid he is not so strong to beat Mihawk. (This is just from OVA)

Miyamoto, MUSHASHI
This is an anime discussion page, don't bring Manga



SHANKS < MIHAWK proof:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NL8DTuFu8E

http://static3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20101124223306/onepiece/pt/images/5/56/42121043.gif

Something about Mihawk I'd like to share:


Conclusion:
He is definitely the best and strongest swordsman ever existed! I think I have given enough proof...
May 20, 2014 10:21 AM

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Dark_Chaos said:

Guts is but a mere human, and there are limits to what a single human can do. Ichigo is a god of death.


No human....Superhuman. The limit thing is pointless, Ichigo has his limits too. So do Mihawk.
Btw OP dindn't said anything not allowed superpower, cuz Mihawk has special eyes, not human...So everything is allowed.

They are not "mere humans", Sanji can kick ships, do u think he is "mere human"???

The question is, they can die? If yes, they are in the same level of comparision, no matter if is superhuman, or have superpower. The same way that we compare Zoro x AkM users.
May 20, 2014 10:36 AM
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goldslash said:
Dark_Chaos said:

Guts is but a mere human, and there are limits to what a single human can do. Ichigo is a god of death.


No human....Superhuman. The limit thing is pointless, Ichigo has his limits too. So do Mihawk.
Btw OP dindn't said anything not allowed superpower, cuz Mihawk has special eyes, not human...So everything is allowed.
Whoa, so Ichigo has limits.... :o

OnT:
I'd say Mihawk as well. Skill, power, charisma, he has it all. Mihawk doesn't have superpower eyes, iirc he just has exceptionally good eyesight that's all. Not sharingan/byakugan/rinnegan or the likes.
May 20, 2014 10:54 AM

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Erza Scarlet I dont know why I just think she is the best
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May 20, 2014 10:56 AM

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alibaba kun cut them all his skills are da best u guys must delete this and remade with a voting poll
May 20, 2014 11:00 AM

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Miyamoto Musashi, guy fought against 70 yoshioka students and won, was nearly killed but he won
May 20, 2014 11:02 AM

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Erza Scarlet I dont know why I just think she is the best


Erza? Nah, she would be roadkill if she ever met someone like Yama-jii from Bleach. I'd say she'd be about even with Renji.
May 20, 2014 11:07 AM

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kanno_ said:
Whoa, so Ichigo has limits.... :o


Well he can beat The Truth of FMA then?? I don't think so.
He's no omnipotent, btw, i dindn't complete the anime, but i know aizen is almost omnipotent.


OnT:
I'd say Mihawk as well. Skill, power, charisma, he has it all. Mihawk doesn't have superpower eyes, iirc he just has exceptionally good eyesight that's all. Not sharingan/byakugan/rinnegan or the likes.


Is nothing like that... But his eyes are special.
And Haki for you is no power?? So you are wrong.
Mihawk can use BnH, KnH, only not use the Haki of Kings...

So he has some skills to help and improve his sword skills, like Ichigo or another characters have.
May 20, 2014 11:09 AM

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Definitely Mihawk.

"Hurr durr, Kirito is faster"

DUDE. KIRITO IS NOT FASTER.

http://youtu.be/uj9hWWLMUOI?t=29s

Can Kirito slice a Buggy in 1000 different parts within 0.5 second?

Kirito dual wields. Nice. Zoro triple wields. And look at Zoro's fight with Mihawk:

http://youtu.be/rmHLTiX5paQ?t=2m8s

Verdict is given. Mihawk is the best.
May 20, 2014 11:11 AM

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Arlong is the best swordsman because Arlong is a shark.
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May 20, 2014 11:14 AM

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lupadim said:
Definitely Mihawk.

Ae vei...

I think Mihawk as better skills than Ichigo, but less power and much more less speed(physical)...
So he can't beat Ichigo...Can he??

And he dind't even see he full =//. Only we have the info that he draw with Shanks.
May 20, 2014 11:19 AM

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goldslash said:
lupadim said:
Definitely Mihawk.

Ae vei...

I think Mihawk as better skills than Ichigo, but less power and much more less speed(physical)...
So he can't beat Ichigo...Can he??

And he dind't even see he full =//. Only we have the info that he draw with Shanks.
Mihawk has the advantage of the Observation Haki. He would use that to predict Ichigo.
May 20, 2014 11:20 AM

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lupadim said:
Definitely Mihawk.

Killer Bee is definitely better than Mihawk though.
May 20, 2014 11:21 AM

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goldslash said:
Dark_Chaos said:

Guts is but a mere human, and there are limits to what a single human can do. Ichigo is a god of death.


No human....Superhuman. The limit thing is pointless, Ichigo has his limits too. So do Mihawk.
Btw OP dindn't said anything not allowed superpower, cuz Mihawk has special eyes, not human...So everything is allowed.

They are not "mere humans", Sanji can kick ships, do u think he is "mere human"???

The question is, they can die? If yes, they are in the same level of comparision, no matter if is superhuman, or have superpower. The same way that we compare Zoro x AkM users.

Can't exactly comment on the Manga as I haven't read it, but in the Anime, Guts was no superhuman. We all saw that tragic ending as


One Piece is a tricky ball to tackle. Seeing as how Sanji can somehow generate enough friction to put his leg on fire and put it out whenever he wants without injury along with the whole power thing with CP9, the people in that world couldn't possibly be human, so you can't exactly compare that to Berserk.
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lupadim said:
goldslash said:
lupadim said:
Definitely Mihawk.

Ae vei...

I think Mihawk as better skills than Ichigo, but less power and much more less speed(physical)...
So he can't beat Ichigo...Can he??

And he dind't even see he full =//. Only we have the info that he draw with Shanks.
Mihawk has the advantage of the Observation Haki. He would use that to predict Ichigo.


He can't predict something he can't see. Or perhaps, he can predict, but still he can't have speed to react, to such an blitz attack.
Ichigo paws Mihawk... Just to mention i prefer Op(see my list rate), but Bleach world is overpower than Op world.

Btw, what is it? http://malcom.wikia.com/wiki/Lupadim

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Can't exactly comment on the Manga as I haven't read it, but in the Anime, Guts was no superhuman. We all saw that tragic ending as


Me too, only anime. Berserk had demons, beasts. Griffith is a demon, it's why he is powerless.
The manga i think has follow be him killing some demons and going towards Griffith.
Guts it's a lot human than Sanji are... Like i said don't need superpower, to be superhuman!!
They are much more than humans dude, their strength, resistency, is a way higher than a base male human in his best age.

About the legs, it's only a illustration, their legs don't go on fire... And when he fricks, yeah he adds heat(not fire, these two are different) and can do a damage(with can burn the opponent)...So it's no fire, it's heat.
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Definitely Yasuri Shichika. He doesn't even need a sword, because he's already one. He's a sword that controls itself, therefore he's a sword swordsman.
May 20, 2014 11:52 AM

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I would Say Kiba Yuuto of Highschool DxD, cuz he gives birth to swords. No other man can do that.

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Assuming that every mention of Guts has been in his "normal" form, how would he compare to other strong swordsmen when he dons the Berserker Armor?
And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible.
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goldslash said:
He can't predict something he can't see. Or perhaps, he can predict, but still he can't have speed to react, to such an blitz attack.
Ichigo paws Mihawk... Just to mention i prefer Op(see my list rate), but Bleach world is overpower than Op world.
There is a reason Mihawk is called "Hawk eyes". He can see things that no normal human can see. He would easily predict Ichigo.
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lupadim said:
goldslash said:
He can't predict something he can't see. Or perhaps, he can predict, but still he can't have speed to react, to such an blitz attack.
Ichigo paws Mihawk... Just to mention i prefer Op(see my list rate), but Bleach world is overpower than Op world.
There is a reason Mihawk is called "Hawk eyes". He can see things that no normal human can see. He would easily predict Ichigo.
Can he predict Shukuchi ?
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lupadim said:
goldslash said:
He can't predict something he can't see. Or perhaps, he can predict, but still he can't have speed to react, to such an blitz attack.
Ichigo paws Mihawk... Just to mention i prefer Op(see my list rate), but Bleach world is overpower than Op world.
There is a reason Mihawk is called "Hawk eyes". He can see things that no normal human can see. He would easily predict Ichigo.


But can he see through the Hiten Mitsurugi?
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But can he see why kids like the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
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IntroverTurtle said:
Depends on how you mean the best. A couple characters from One Piece have been shown to cut in half some large things. Mihawk a huge ice berg and Law basically a mountain(though Law was helped by his fruit).
If we go by that (being able to cut large things) then Gin would be the best swordsman considering Gin when his zanpaktou is in bankai can cut multiple buildings in half. http://youtu.be/s_OCOiAIU2Y
Mountain > multiple buildings
WOW I didn't know it was that big a mountain.
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