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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- Loved the interactions! God I was so looking foward to this! I mean who wouldn't. We actually see minato WITH SAGE MODE!! But was kinda Useless... Well Obito turning good was more convincing now!!! . Just hope 666 would be cool! Not an excellent Chapter but still enjoyed it nonetheless!!! |
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| "He'll never let anyone step over his comrades". Right okay. |
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| Minato went Sage Mode. |
"I’ve set myself to become the King of the Pirates…and if I die trying…then at least I tried!" Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece) |
| Yeah keep talking Madara. |
| Minato got his ass whooped. |
| Obito sucking the SO6P chakra from Madara? Woah he was almost a dead man few chapters back and acting like normal now. Just where did he get all his strength? It seem as though the tail beasts chakra can be transferred or leeched effortlessly now without the use of Gedo Mazo. Remember how long it used to take during Gaara's extraction? Anyway, Black Zetsu's original form looks kinda cute lol |
BenphyreFeb 18, 2014 11:31 PM
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| Madara using TnJ but seems like Naruto's TnJ is more effective :P Obito's going to die soon, so whatever he's going to do will determine how the rest of this fight will turn out. Minato got his butt whooped lol. Was hoping for the reveal of the mysterious guy near Sasuke and stuff.. Maybe next week? Or Kishi will continue to mess with our heads.. lol. |
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| More Talk no Jutsu from Madara this chapter. And the chapter ends with... Obito finally being won over by Talk no Jutsu! Didn't see that one coming... Yondaime Hokage can use Senjutsu? Okay, be a badass then. I thought Jiraiya had at least that over Yondaime, but nope. |
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| As usual, Talk no Jutsu solves everything. And did I miss something? Since when did Minato had Senjutsu? |
| "People die when they are killed" - Emiya Shirou |
| Good chapter. Madara explains the true purpose of chakra and what people actually used it for. He sure knows his stuff. Damn.. Minato, Kakashi and Gaara got beat up in a blink of an eye. Even senjutsu didn't work. Obito remembering Naruto's "talk-no-jutsu" was nice. This indicates that Obito will surely pull something off by next chapter. He's probably the only hope in getting back half of Kyuubi. |
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| Since kishi is waiting this long to reveal that Mysterious person it has to be some one special that could quite possibly be the key to turning the tide of this never ending conflict. So many things are coming to a head all at once, i just don't know where kishi is going with this. I just it doesn't turn out to be like naruto regains the kyubii again cause that will just be rehashing things over and over again. The tailed beasts story has ended as far as im concerned, naruto needs to some how find a new kind of power. So i am missing anything? When they first introduced this 2nd guy in the mask, i though it was some one else, i thought obito was like near death, so how the hell can obito still be alive and talking after all that. Is it the black zetsu, that sustains his life. So what has he always been controlled up till now? Why did madara say you are not obito? |
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| I wonder if they'll actually fight or if Obito has another trick up his sleeve - maybe transfering whatever power he stole to Naruto's body? He could grab Naruto and ''flee'' to his Kamui dimension and do the transfer there. A fight between two people with Rikudou's power though... that would be pretty sweet. I just realized Obito has his mangekyou activated, if he pulls the "Kamui! Can't touch this, bitch!" on Madara that would pretty damn funny. |
AloxamaxFeb 18, 2014 11:30 PM
"Rejoice! We are humans— we are the most talented people! Precisely because we were born without any ability— we can achieve anything— this is the will of the weakest race!" – Sora, ‘No game No life Vol.01’ |
| My reasoning for why it is now Minato's using sage mode, although I don't care how or why cause he is the ultimate BADASS: Why didn't he use it in his fight against Tobi? Sage mode takes a while to gather, which is why it's originally thought of being an unorthodox method of going about a fight. Then how can he use it so quickly now then? Well, practice makes perfect, while in the RDS he probably really got the hang of absorbing natural energy; I mean, how else would he be able to keep up with the yin kyuubi in an eternal battle? Or probably being an edo has something to do with gathering natural energy instantly. Okay, then wy did he need Naruto's senjutsu to power up his rasengan against Juubito, why didn't he do it himself? Well to answer that, Naruto was only able to go into BSM because his kyuubi allowed him to. Perhaps Minatos didn't allow the two powerrs to mix, and now that he no longer has the kyuubi, he can freely go in and out of sage mode EDIT: plus, Minato says he felt the presence of the sage moreso than in Obito, so he probably thought Madara's threat level warranted sage mode while obito didn't |
Mobius_TripFeb 19, 2014 11:39 AM
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Sakubo777 said: As usual, Talk no Jutsu solves everything. And did I miss something? Since when did Minato had Senjutsu? The slang term TNJ mostly refers to when people talk during a fight and explains all the mechanics behind their actions and fighting, etc. I think that is where it came from mostly, like how the original series began, kakashi Vs zabuzo. This i wouldn't really categorize it as Tnj, but thats just my opinion. I think they both had something to say and it was a legitimate reason, they were never fighting each other anyways at the time so its not like their communicating felt awkward. Basically obito and madara talked bout their own ideals and how they differ basically. That was pretty fun though lol, Minato getting owned like that. People will laugh their ass off when they see that in the anime. And where the fck is hashirama, kishimoto is making this very hard to follow. I guessing having so many characters on screen at once in the war is just a hard to thing to put together and write. |
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| Yes, Obito will die next chapter, but will propably save Naruto. |
| Madara can easily whoop Obito's ass and steal the kyuubi, what's taking so long? Come on, let Madara be complete already! Minato.. sigh.. another arm.. I am like the others, who are confused. When was it said that Minato could use sage mode? Another issue, wasn't Obito supposed to be dead, or soon to be dead? ~.~ |
ToG25thBaamFeb 18, 2014 11:32 PM
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ToG25thBaam said: Madara can easily whoop Obito's ass and steal the kyuubi, what's taking so long? Come on, let Madara be complete already! Minato.. sigh.. another arm.. For some reason I don't see Madara being able to touch MS Obito as long as he's defensively using Kamui very, very consciously... |
| Banishment, this world! |
Mobius_Trip said: For some reason I don't see Madara being able to touch MS Obito as long as he's defensively using Kamui very, very consciously... But he's the sage now, or the one closest to becoming the SO6P. Madara countered Minato's teleportation + rasengan casually, a mere Obito is nothing. Minato owned the hell out of Tobi in the flashback. |
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link9us said: Naruto promised to rescue the Bijuu, so I doubt their stories are over considering how Kishimoto treats Naruto's "promises" - and also, I really want to see Kurama again so I'll hope for their return.So many things are coming to a head all at once, i just don't know where kishi is going with this. I just it doesn't turn out to be like naruto regains the kyubii again cause that will just be rehashing things over and over again. The tailed beasts story has ended as far as im concerned, naruto needs to some how find a new kind of power. link9us said: Seeing Madara and Naruto triggered his 'Shonen willpower' energy reserves.So i am missing anything? When they first introduced this 2nd guy in the mask, i though it was some one else, i thought obito was like near death, so how the hell can obito still be alive and talking after all that. Is it the black zetsu, that sustains his life. So what has he always been controlled up till now? link9us said: Basically, 'Madara' became a title, not a name or an identity. Given to those who can be called the embodiment of Madara's will like Obito (in the past). Before dying for the first time, Madara said to Obito "You are Madara Uchiha" because Obito would become the one to carry all of Madara's ideals and dreams, become in essence Madara himself.Why did madara say you are not obito? link9us said: It can be considered as 'Talk no Jutsu' when a character almost litterally talks an opponent into submission - TnJ is simply a way of recognizing the strategy due to how many times it happenned.The slang term TNJ mostly refers to when people talk during a fight and explains all the mechanics behind their actions and fighting, etc. I think that is where it came from mostly, like how the original series began, kakashi Vs zabuzo. This i wouldn't really categorize it as Tnj, but thats just my opinion. link9us said: Hashirama was paralized by Madara - just like he paralized Tobirama. Both of them are basically out of the fight until someone removes the black poles.And where the fck is hashirama, kishimoto is making this very hard to follow. I guessing having so many characters on screen at once in the war is just a hard to thing to put together and write. |
AloxamaxFeb 18, 2014 11:43 PM
"Rejoice! We are humans— we are the most talented people! Precisely because we were born without any ability— we can achieve anything— this is the will of the weakest race!" – Sora, ‘No game No life Vol.01’ |
ToG25thBaam said: Another issue, wasn't Obito supposed to be dead, or soon to be dead? ~.~ Exactly. I mentioned in my post above, where did he get the strength man. He is even sucking the six path chakra from Madara. |
Stay in yesterday 時を止めて |
| Naruto talk no jutsu once again.. Obito suddenly gains strength while he was laying on the ground for 20 chapters? ffs Kishi. 1/5 |
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| Interesting chapter. I'm happy Obito is still alive. I've always loved Obito, such a complex character with a sad backstory. I'm just upset that we didn't get to see who the mystery guy was yet. |
Benphyre said: ToG25thBaam said: Another issue, wasn't Obito supposed to be dead, or soon to be dead? ~.~ Exactly. I mentioned in my post above, where did he get the strength man. He is even sucking the six path chakra from Madara. I didn't notice that, I thought it was weird that he had the pole/staff back. How does that even works? Lol. |
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| I kind of like how kishi builds his world around the concept that every character has a reasoning behind their existence and a role to play, their is no real evil in the world, so to speak, the evil is the chakra it self and the way humanity abused it. Madara is simply trying to correct that with his own ideal world that he would like to create. yeah yeah ive seen this done time and time again in various other anime series, but in a shonen like this its kind of rare. Speaking of chakra, do you remember where the actual tree came from? I kind of forgot. Kishi is trying his best but i have to be honest, alot of this has been very confusing because he's cramming so many idea's together to try and come up with a conclusive ending. Questions i got: - Where the hell is the rest of the alliance lol, Lee, guy, Kiba, Hinata, Shikimaru, etc (I can't understand focusing on certain members all at once is very difficult when your trying to write something that is central to one or two particular characters) - Where the fck is Hashirama, what the hell happen to him and what bout the 1st and 2nd hokage's, did they get like obliterated or something. I completely forgot about that cause im so focused on whats happening with naruto. - I thought obito was down and out for the fcking count, the dude was nearly dead and all the sudden he's talking like he's completely fine. IS that because black zetzu is sustaining his life? That is the only conclusion i can come up with but then again, it seems some how he still has his conscienceless intact and is able to over come black zetsu and continue to communicate to Madara. - When did minato ever show the ability to use Senjutsu. I don't recall anything like that? |
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| Minato: not another arm >.< Naruto: .......is anyone gonna save me or what?? At this point , it seems Madara can actually wipe out all of them if he wanted to! |
UchihaFeb 18, 2014 11:54 PM
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| It's so brilliant because we, of course, know that a world without chakra still has conflict. Silly Madara. Go home. |
link9us said: what tree? you mean that dramatic plot twist that was forgotten after a couple of chapters? yeah my guess is that we won't hear from it again.Speaking of chakra, do you remember where the actual tree came from? I kind of forgot. Kishi is trying his best but i have to be honest, alot of this has been very confusing because he's cramming so many idea's together to try and come up with a conclusive ending. |
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| I seriously might have to go back and read through these chapters of this war again. |
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Kyuutoryuu said: More Talk no Jutsu from Madara this chapter. And the chapter ends with... Obito finally being won over by Talk no Jutsu! Didn't see that one coming... Maybe it's just me but I don't really like when people have a change of heart that easily just because someone lectures him (yes, I'm talking about Obito). This chapter makes me feel like I read a fanfic. |
link9us said: Questions i got: - Where the hell is the rest of the alliance lol, Lee, guy, Kiba, Hinata, Shikimaru, etc (I can't understand focusing on certain members all at once is very difficult when your trying to write something that is central to one or two particular characters) - Where the fck is Hashirama, what the hell happen to him and what bout the 1st and 2nd hokage's, did they get like obliterated or something. I completely forgot about that cause im so focused on whats happening with naruto. - I thought obito was down and out for the fcking count, the dude was nearly dead and all the sudden he's talking like he's completely fine. IS that because black zetzu is sustaining his life? That is the only conclusion i can come up with but then again, it seems some how he still has his conscienceless intact and is able to over come black zetsu and continue to communicate to Madara. - When did minato ever show the ability to use Senjutsu. I don't recall anything like that? - MIA - Hashirama had those black poles in his back, which prevent him from moving. Like how Pain restricted Naruto's movement with those black pole. Second Hokage received the same treatment. In the recent chapter, he said that he wanted to help Sasuke but he couldn't even move one finger, let alone doing anything else. He's laying on the floor now. Hashirama mentioned that he had something to give to Sasuke before, it was not mentioned what it is, but we'll know soon. - My question exactly. A minor flaw, probably. I mean, he got the entire juubi sucked out of him, he should be dead already. It was mentioned that he was dead, or close to death in the previous few chapters. - My question exactly! Minato could somehow use senjutsu now. I don't remember the frogs mentioning that at all during Naruto's sage chakra training. I might be wrong though. |
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Sourire said: link9us said: what tree? you mean that dramatic plot twist that was forgotten after a couple of chapters? yeah my guess is that we won't hear from it again.Speaking of chakra, do you remember where the actual tree came from? I kind of forgot. Kishi is trying his best but i have to be honest, alot of this has been very confusing because he's cramming so many idea's together to try and come up with a conclusive ending. I highly doubt that, thats part of the whole reason behind this infinite Tsukuyomi after all. Using the tree to cast the genjutsu on the moon. Did you forget its still on the battle field. Since kishimoto is wrapping up everything conclusively with out any plot holes. i would just curious about the tree's true origins. I mean where the hell did it come from originally, did they already talk bout that? this tree is the sole reason behind all of the evil that started in the world. Humans are basically the threat of the entire species and what errupted into many conflicts because they abused the power, but where did the "power" chakra, come from? Never though i would see this kind of twist in this manga. |
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| This chapter was meh to me =/... It was pretty boring to read. I know every chapter can't always be as exciting as the previous ones, but Naruto and Sasuke are dying here, and Kishimoto chooses this moment to show us Madara trying to re-convert Obito to the Dark Side, and Obito in Luke Skywalker-mode "No ! I'll never come to the Dark Side !" (sorry, I watched Star Wars on Saturday, so I can't help but make analogies xD). Where is Team Gai BTW ? The only funny thing to me was Sakura's "WTF" faces now and then, as she doesn't anything about what's going on (if you remember, nobody never explained anything to her about Obito). I liked the last page (see pic), though, because Rin's panel is just above Sakura's, so it create a link between the two girls : the two girls who support their friend in their dream to become Hokage ! http://nimga.fr/f/ghnSJ.jpg Also, next week chapter is #666 (just like the title of Kishimoto's twin brother's manga !) ! Be ready for anything ! |
ToG25thBaam said: Benphyre said: ToG25thBaam said: Another issue, wasn't Obito supposed to be dead, or soon to be dead? ~.~ Exactly. I mentioned in my post above, where did he get the strength man. He is even sucking the six path chakra from Madara. I didn't notice that, I thought it was weird that he had the pole/staff back. How does that even works? Lol. No idea honestly. At this point I'm pretty sure he will use that chakra to save Naruto and go ahead to finally die? |
Stay in yesterday 時を止めて |
| Obito is just about to die and I am happy about it. I read a lot of Shōnen and he was one of the worst characters I have ever seen. Now I just want to know who Mr.X is. Maybe it's Kaguya? |
LadyDiana said: This chapter was meh to me =/... It was pretty boring to read. I know every chapter can't always be as exciting as the previous ones, but Naruto and Sasuke are dying here, and Kishimoto chooses this moment to show us Madara trying to re-convert Obito to the Dark Side, and Obito in Luke Skywalker-mode "No ! I'll never come to the Dark Side !" (sorry, I watched Star Wars on Saturday, so I can't help but make analogies xD). Where is Team Gai BTW ? The only funny thing to me was Sakura's "WTF" faces now and then, as she doesn't anything about what's going on (if you remember, nobody never explained anything to her about Obito). I liked the last page (see pic), though, because Rin's panel is just above Sakura's, so it create a link between the two girls : the two girls who support their friend in their dream to become Hokage ! http://nimga.fr/f/ghnSJ.jpg Also, next week chapter is #666 (just like the title of Kishimoto's twin brother's manga !) ! Be ready for anything ! Yeah i just realized that, she's getting a full history lesson right their. |
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| He can stab Rikudo Madara wiith his hand, which doesn't have neither chakra nor a weapon!? There go my hopes of at least Madara being defeated in a cool way instead of just some bullshit being made up... |
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| When, when is Obito going to die..This lame excuse of a villain/hero has more lives than a cat. And wtf is Madara thinking, just cop off his damn head and get it over with. 2/5 Did not like this chapter at all. |
| ''We don't know what kind of people we truly are until the moment before our deaths. As death comes to embrace you, you will realise what you are. That's what death is, don't you think?'' - Uchiha Itachi |
Norjack2 said: About Minato being able to use Senjutsu, he was the student of jiraiya, Jiraiya could have personally taught him how to use senjutsu. But besides from that, he was able to summon toads in the past, it wouldn't be surprising if he was also able to use senjutsu. But shouldn't the frog-jii said anything about it? I remember him mentioning about Jiraiya during their training, don't remember Minato being mentioned though. |
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Norjack2 said: About Minato being able to use Senjutsu, he was the student of jiraiya, Jiraiya could have personally taught him how to use senjutsu. But besides from that, he was able to summon toads in the past, it wouldn't be surprising if he was also able to use senjutsu. You are misunderstanding something important. In the past there were conditions to use Sage-Mode, conditions Minato didn't could fulfill. The other thing is that Sen-Chakra is not easy to handle, except for Madara. :-) Minato didn't learn how to forge Sen-Chakra and that's why so much people are upset about it. If I remember correctly it was in chapter 645 that Minato clearly stated he wasn't able to add Sen-Chakra to his Rasengan. |
| Oh well, Obito's last attempt to redeem himself and he will die in few chapters with probably showing aliance a way to fight Madara or he will bring Naruto back to life with Rinne Tensei and die by doing so. But seriously that Minato's frog eyes came out of nowhere, because there where no hints whatsoever and why he didn't use it, when they were fighting Obito... |
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| Average chapter, Obito, bleh. |
Kyuutoryuu said: More Talk no Jutsu from Madara this chapter. And the chapter ends with... Obito finally being won over by Talk no Jutsu! Didn't see that one coming... Yondaime Hokage can use Senjutsu? Okay, be a badass then. I thought Jiraiya had at least that over Yondaime, but nope. ^ This |
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| What.. Minato can use Senjutsu? wtf.. Ok chapter.. Talk no Jutsu all the way baby! lolololol! Everyone needs to remember that Obito still has Minato's seal on his body.. Probably a teleportation jutsu to get Obito back and transfer the 9th tale back.. But how in the world can he do it without his hand? ermm.. |
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