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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Woah. So...Hirukawa is Taeko's father...and he's also the one who was one of Maria's clients...and then he wanted to interview Tsukiko to make some extra money...and he was the guy who stole from all those people to get money for the high school exams for his 17 year old daughter...who's Taeko...who he...watched? So he's a voyeur, a pedophile, a thief, a liar...and a victim? Um...okay. So how's he connected to Lil Slugger, Yuichi, and Ushiyama? Maybe he molested them in a past life. D: And how does that old lady know Taeko? Wait a minute...that was Kawazu who interviewed Tsukiko, right? So where the heck did he run off to? |
KinetaNov 23, 2012 9:25 AM
| First attack was targeted to Tsukiko.But as it's seen in the episode she hurt herself.Then she created an attacker in her head and drew it on a piece of paper.In the end she is a creator :) But what's the connection between her and Shounen Bat.Also what about the connections between Shounen Bat,old man at the hospital and Tsuki...we will see i guess :) nice episode! |
| " The best spice is hunger!..." - Spike Spiegel |
| what i got so far was: Kawazu wanted to find more stuff about Tsukiko Masami Hirukawa is the father of Taeko Masami is also the dirty cop that had 'relations' with Maria/Harumi Harumi is the private tutor of Yuichi Yuichi and Shogo are classmate rivals for elections. All are related to Shonen Bat in some way (if any) I am guessing the grandmother the cops interviewed was the grandmother of Taeko. |
| Now thats' more like it. Taeko's father is such a dirty man, even spying on his own daughter? Or maybe not. The old lady is the grandma of Taeko obviously. |
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| Hell yes, Paranoia Agent is back! With the previous episode I was afraid that this series' would go down hill but this episode has just revived the plot. The same suspence and the same tense as the 4 firsts episodes and the mystery about the shounen bat is still complete. And yet it used the same schem as the others episodes, focusing on a secondary character of the previous story. This time it's about the cop's daughter of the episode 4. |
| Hm, i was freaked out when i've finished episode 5. I was like "wtf", they've caught him already :S My opinion is that the "Shounen Bat" Doesn't really exist, and it's just in people immagination. We'll soon see if i was right. Btw, i still don't get this line "Lost children are spectacular mushrooms in the sky" Damn, i Like animes like this |
| They say there's no such place... as Paradise. Even if you search it to the ends of the Earth, there's nothing there. No matter how far you walk, it's always the same road. It just goes on and on. But, in spite of that... Why am I so driven to find it? A voice calls to me... It says, "Search for Paradise." |
| Ugh, such a dirty cop. |
| I love the music. And this was a partially confusing but overall satisfying episode. |
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| "Who are you?" Pretty much sums it up. |
| Whoa, so judging by this episode, Shonen Bat was just Tsukiko's way to escape reality o.o And then some kid who's played too much games assumed the role of Shonen Bat, making him more than just Tsukiko's imagination... Also, ew at Hirukawa watching his daughter x__X Although I must say, I suspected him to be like that, seeing as he always demanded that prostitues call him 'daddy'. I didn't think we'd see his daughter however... ...Tsukiko INFURIATES me. |
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| Ookay quite a lot of information to take in from that episode, this i definately not one those animes you can watch at your leisure, it needs full attention on each episode! Hirukwawa is a detestable character D: but I kinda thought something like that was going on when he asked his prostitutes to call him daddy :/ The way this is going i doubt lil'slugger really exists it seems to be just a fragment of peoples imagination, but we shall soon see! |
| This was a great episode. I loved the manner in which all the different story lines are interwined and connected so fluidly. It seems like all the victims had something taken from them that oppressed them. In this instance it was the painful memory of that girl that got erased. |
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NoIsIA said: First attack was targeted to Tsukiko.But as it's seen in the episode she hurt herself.Then she created an attacker in her head and drew it on a piece of paper.In the end she is a creator :) But what's the connection between her and Shounen Bat.Also what about the connections between Shounen Bat,old man at the hospital and Tsuki...we will see i guess :) nice episode! I didn't expect it to be herself. Dang, everyone in this anime has problems and wanting to get away from it. I really dislike that cop. What a creeper; it makes sense now that he wants the people he sleeps with to call him 'daddy.' |
| HEY! |
| Wow, a lot of light was just shined on Hirukawa's daughter complex. Ugh. And since four different versions of it were featured in this episode (five counting the ED), I want to take this opportunity to say that I love the main theme. So creepy, but it's been caught in my ear for the past couple of days. |
| Interesting. |
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| Right from the start I assumed that people were attacking themselves (hence the title of the anime paranoia agent) but honestly I have no idea. I'm really confused where the kid they actually caught fits in. He must do somewhere - as Tsukiko gave his description. Did he start wearing the rollerblades and carrying the bat after he heard about it on the media? Or no? I'm also confused about Taeko and her role in this. |
nanaki254 said: what i got so far was: Kawazu wanted to find more stuff about Tsukiko Masami Hirukawa is the father of Taeko Masami is also the dirty cop that had 'relations' with Maria/Harumi Harumi is the private tutor of Yuichi Yuichi and Shogo are classmate rivals for elections. All are related to Shonen Bat in some way (if any) I am guessing the grandmother the cops interviewed was the grandmother of Taeko. Yes. Something like that. I'm starting to think the shounen bat... doesn't exist. o.o (But then Taeko would've lost her own memories??) Very interesting. Made up for last episode. |
IppoSRB said: My opinion is that the "Shounen Bat" Doesn't really exist, and it's just in people immagination. We'll soon see if i was right. This was my guess from the start, but I have a feeling this series has even more tricks up it's sleeves... |
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| Hmm, better than last episode. |
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| Back on track thankfully. Great episode. |
| Daddy complex ugh that guy is disgusting |
| EL PSY KONGROO!!! |
| This episode had so many "OOOHHH!" moments, loving it. |
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| Pretty fucked up episode if you ask me, especially with that camera in her room! That definitely was fucked up! |
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| anoo~ donata desu ka? |
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| Best episode so far. |
| Taeko isn't the grandchild of that lady, the lady that visited Midori is. The old lady only relation to Shonen bat is that she saw Tsukiko make the whole thing up. |
JeffNoel13 said: Taeko isn't the grandchild of that lady, the lady that visited Midori is. The old lady only relation to Shonen bat is that she saw Tsukiko make the whole thing up. Wasn't she talking about how her grandaughter was a daddy's girl and then it cut to that girl doing things with her dad. So they're different yet similar? I mean they do have different mothers apparently, the mother in the flashback is frail and the mother at the end looks completely different. Guess it makes sense, just an odd way of telling a story. Similar yet different, thought they were crossing from the granddaughters point of view while she was doing things and editing so the similarities in conversation had some similarity. |
| Oh gosh no...please...no perverted fathers installing a peeping camera in her daughter's bedroom...oh gosh. So at first I was thinking that there was no reason to question any more of the victims/witnesses but apparently shounen bat might not actually be the only one hurting people. |
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| I AM SO CONFUSED! So Tsukiko made up the first attack. I DID find it suspicious that everyone else was in critical condition, while she only had her leg hurt. Then they called Shounen Bat a copycat, which may or may not be true. Perhaps he saw it and got an idea. He's definitely not mentally stable. I don't get why they're treating him like a liar when he was clearly responsible. The only thing fishy about Tsukiko's lie was that her description of Shounen Bat was spot on. Anyway, I hope all of this confusing stuff will make sense soon. Well, this is all making me paranoid, so I guess this anime is doing a good job so far, lol. |
SuranaJan 7, 2016 10:35 AM
| "It's a tragic misunderstanding that could have been easily avoided if he just finished his sentence in time!" — Richard Watterson (The Amazing World of Gumball) |
| This pedophiliac stuff disgusted me, I really hope Taeko doesn't get involved with that man again now that she lost her memory... |
 I knew this guy had some kind of sick pedophilic fantasy with his daughter.But...duude..I didn't expect THAT. |
| Ah, thank goodness. The show has aligned back. |
| this is soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo confusing and i feel like an idiot for not understanding it |
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| Awesome episode! Totally makes up for the last one. I want to watch the next one but I have to go to work...DANG!!! |
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| Wow, so much happened this ep. I got a bit confused as to who was related to who. I didn't expect Tsukiko to be lying...I did, however, originally think Ichi was. Many comments suggesting everyone is faking it and Shounen Bat was their "alibi." I'm confused though...why did Tsukiko have a panic attack when she heard rollerblades a couple eps back? Also, if Shounen Bat isn't real, then why/how are all the victims related? |
| just wow, first of all the father is despicable character, he steals, rapes, is a pedophile, and the worst all he spies on his daughter goodness, and the segment with tsukiko did her imagination of shounen bat made him real thats what i caught, man the plot and basically the whole is just awesome!!! ππ½ππ½ |
| "Even villains have standards" -Accelerator-  |
| Am I the only one who thought the computer thing was really ... weird? It's just a nitpick, and when you realize the family barely has enough money to afford a good house it makes sense but ... Like, the dad had a camera of his daughter in the daughter's room ... but he also has the program taking the pictures in her computer? Like, is he just stupid? I know it was in the trash folder, so maybe he thought he could get away with it for a while and then hide it in there. But it's still a HUGE risk and it is dumb for him to take it. I know that in like Japan they share a TV usually in the main room as a family event. So maybe this family was too poor to have multiple computers (which would make sense because of the . But it just seems like such a stupid thing to do ... Then again, that's a nitpick and I guess the more you think about it the more sense it makes. The dad was never clever to begin with. Anyways, amazing episode ! 9/10 |
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| now that teako lost her memories she will not remember what horrible person her dad is and maybe she will go back to living with him if she trusts him that he is her father :( i hope that won't happen. |
| And to think for most of this episode I looked up to Taeko's father for all the admiration she had for him. Now I feel dirty. The sad part is he works hard (albeit not legally) for his family and loves them, but he "loves" his daughter way too much. |
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| When you think that Hirukawa can't be more corrupted, this episode appears... Poor Taeko for learning the truth about her perverted, idealised through years by her, father. Losing memory is indeed the best cure for her. Hirukawa's house was destroyed, like the love his daughter felt towards him. |
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| This episode made up for last episode that's for sure. It's all coming together now, with how some characters are related to one another |
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